Possible Link Between Vernon Seitz Case and Daniel “Danny” Barter Missing Persons Case

Posted by BOC Staff | Cold Case,Daniel Barter,Jacob Wetterling,Kidnapping,Missing Child,Missing Persons,Vernon Seitz | Thursday 22 January 2009 10:05 am

On December 15, 2008, Vernon C. Seitz, 62 yr old white male is found Dead on Entry appearing to be of natural causes.  On December 12, 2008, Dr. Victoria Fetter, Seitz’s licensed psychiatrist contacted MPD to discuss her patients intent to confess to a homicide he was forced to participate in,  following an alleged abduction, sexual assault  and torture by unknown subjects.  Mr. Seitz states he and another victim were abducted while on a family outing to Racine Zoo on June 19, 1959. There is no report of this incident or any remotely similar incident on file and It is the opinion of MPD this never occurred .  Upon reading initial press on this incident, I prepared my own investigative article provided below.

Upon further research I note the article where the psychiatrist references the date for the Barter_danielfirst time, of Seitz’s alleged account, as June 19, 1959. This date immediately sparks my interest as I had been profiling possible links to this case by cross referencing missing children cases of boys, of which Seitz appeared to posses an alarming interest.  I reviewed the data regarding the missing person’s case for Daniel Barter:

Daniel Barter has been missing from Alabama since June 18, 1959. Daniel was last seen playing near the banks of Perdido Bay where he had gone camping with his parents, siblings and other relatives. Daniel reportedly disappeared from the campsite while his parents were preparing some fishing equipment. Daniel did not like water; therefore it is believed that he would not have gone into the bay voluntarily. An extensive search for Daniel ensued immediately, but he has not been seen or heard from since that time.

From several various online sources, the following supplemental information from the Barter family should be considered:

Nehi-sodaDaniel was holding a bottle of Nehi; the bottle was never recovered at the scene. In any scenario other than abduction, based on the exhaustive search, this would have been recovered.

Mrs. Barter recalled a man sitting outside their home in Mobile on separate occasions. One incidence his footprints were located outside of Danny’s window. Both incidents were based on eyewitness accounts.
While at the store in Lillian the morning of the abduction, Danny and his brother were in the car while Mrs. Barter ran into the store. A man pulled up next to them, appeared to do nothing but watch them, did not exit to go to the store, and then left. The older Barter sibling remarked to Mrs. Barter upon her return to the vehicle that the man was just looking at them, but obviously made him uncomfortable.

Daniel was dressed in only gray Boxer shorts which he wore to bed the previous evening, when he disappeared.

Bloodhounds repeatedly followed his scent to the road.

From Seitz On Scene Recovery

In addition to referencing to Mr. Seitz account and date-specific statements regarding abduction and homicide, the following items were recovered from the scene that may be relative to the Barnet case. Although PIO Anne Schwartz has stated publicly that Seitz’s property in Racine, inherited from his deceased Mother Mildred in 2006, has been searched, there is no public record of a warrant for same. Additionally, there is no indication of a warrant for any vehicle owned by Mr. Seitz :

There were 4 freshly dug dirt piles, or evidence of apparent ground disturbance, on Mr. Seitz’s property. According to weather analysis on December 10, the last known witness account of Seitz being alive, there was 13” of snow on the ground already, therefore the ground would have been very frozen:

A cassette tape and cassette video marked “kidnapping of a 4 ½ year old boy”.

A black and white photo of a boy, white male, holding a fish, with “July 1959” handwritten on the back.

A letter from the White House. The Barter’s had strong Washington contacts and received a letter from J.Edgar Hoover at the time of the abduction.  Did Seitz have a copy?

Significant amounts of Child Pornography, hand drawn maps and missing children’s cases posters and maps with circles indicating various locations.

Additional Seitz Data:

  • Mr. Seitz appears to have relatives in the Mobile area. Specifically, his grandparents, Mildred and Raymond Seitz, and his brother Karl had an address in Birmingham. Several cousins as well.
  • Richard K Francel, who was quoted  has a warrant out for his arrest, issued December 18, 2008 for driving with a revoked/suspended license.
  • Current information indicates subject has multiple family members that are registered sex offenders in Wisconsin (please note this is not a full sheet on these offenders, strictly relative offense(s):

Donald P. Seitz: Wisconsin Circuit Court Access

  • 1 948.03(2)(a) Child Abuse-Intentional.Cause Great Harm Felony C Dismissed on Prosecutor’s Motion
  • 2 948.02(1) 1st Degree Sexual Assault of Child Felony B Guilty / No Contest

Wisconsin SO registry:


Michael A Seitz
Firearms/wreckless: Wisconsin Circuit Court Access

  • 1 948.07(1) Child Enticement-Sexual Contact Felony BC Guilty / No Contest
  • 2 948.02(1) 1st Degree Sexual Assault of Child Felony B Guilty / No Contest

Wisconsin Circuit Court Access (WCCA)

Racine County Case Number 1997CF000052


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  1. DCM says:

    New article regarding similarities between Jacob Wetterling case and earlier abduction 10 miles away.


    excerpt: “Earlier that year a 12-year-old Cold Spring boy named Jared was also abducted and assaulted not far from where Jacob was taken. Jared was released by his attacker.

    Investigators in Stearns County are now taking a closer look at several stranger assaults that took place in Paynesville in 1986 and 1987. There were at least five assaults and the victims were all teenage boys.

    Stearns County Sheriff John Sanner says investigators have always known about the Paynesville cases and looked into them years ago. They are now actively investigating possible similarities to Jacob’s disappearance and Jared’s abduction again.”

  2. STEP says:

    Hey Blink: If ya get a chance go to Victoria Times Colonist and punch in “Michael Dunahee”.

    They have made some major cutbacks in cold case investigators.


  3. STEP says:

    If this is true why can’t they start some kind of fund or get a grant and have retired detectives go out and investigate Michael and other such cold cases on a volunteer basis?


    STEP is referring to:


  4. STEP says:

    Blink : Good front page article from the Paynesville Press 5/21/14. It has a picture of Jacob and a sketch of the guy they think was connected to his and other abductions.

    Punch in: Paynesville area, MN or http://www.paynesvillearea.com/


  5. Step says:

    Blink: http://www.joybaker.com/2014/06/22/another-incident-and-some-exciting-news/

    John Walsh will have a new show in a couple of weeks on CNN


  6. Step says:

    Blink: I saw on the AM news a segment on Kyron Horman. I know you have been working on it for some time. It has touched your heart and good luck with it!


  7. Step says:

    Blink: Joy the Curious-”11 cases and counting”-Sunday, August31,2014-8PM CST-season finale-”The Hunt with John Walsh”-CNN “Jacob Wetterling Story”.


  8. Ragdoll says:

    Browsing through comments….took note that obit disappeared. (very happy to have Mr. Walsh put this case back into public awareness)

    Found this:


    Disregard, if this is now irrelevant. :)

    Thanks Ragdoll. I am on record on Seitz- his deeds have yet to reveal themselves, but they will be- of that I am sure.

    Not sure what you mean about Mr. Walsh?

  9. Ragdoll says:

    Sorry friendLY…John Walsh’s new program, which airs on CNN….John Walsh The Hunt. They did a good job covering the case, including interviews with Mr. and Mrs. Wetterling.

    Case is NOT closed. V. C Seitz, as you indicated in this thread, has family in Wisconsin. Personally, I had no idea there was a series of abduction and rape against young boys from 1986 – 1990ish (some 11 – 13 abductions….can’t remember the precise #) in and around St. Joseph and Paynesville Wis. Jared, one of the victims, believes the cases are related. Amazing man, to share his story.

    A clip from Walsh’s coverage:


    I have a sense that this case will be solved. JMHO

    Saturday evenings, CNN tends to air the repeats of John Walsh The Hunt, for anyone who wants to watch. :)

  10. Step says:

    Blink: [Joy the Curious} John Walsh and Jared on WCCO Radio. (Esme Murphy of News Radio WCCO 830). First on the list of new posts dated 9/5/2014


    For anyone that wants to listen to STEP’s suggestion. Podcast button bottom left.


    I recommend John Walsh’s new show on CNN “The Hunt” highly.

    First 2 episodes, 2 captures.

  11. Step says:

    Blink: I hope you have not felt slighted over this case. You have done considerable over the last several years to put a spark into it. And for that I commend you.

    Not remotely, I wish I could do more, and hope to in the future.

  12. Step says:

    With all my baloney and argumentation you are still tops in my book. (A-1)!!

  13. Step says:

    Hey Blink: If ya get a chance go to http://www.joybaker.com joy.the.curious New story, new suspects? “The Men in The Woods” of 11/30/2014. I think you might find it interesting and have good holidays coming up. Hope you did not eat too much turkey.


  14. Rose says:

    Guess ya’ll saw the Daniel J Heinrich thing.
    dna wrt Jared, the similar.

  15. Rose says:

    quite clear, if not for the Blog owner with curiosity and research, Jared, and his mother, LE would not have been forced to the new DNA study on Jared’s case, nor to the search warrant yielding the porn cache.

  16. Rose says:

    apparently Heinrich is old info dating to last Oct-Nov:

    “….none of that would have ever happened if the Wetterlings had not gotten involved and insisted that Stearns County, the FBI, the BCA, and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children all come together to look at the bigger picture. As Patty said in her statement last week, “When good people pull together, amazing things happen.”

    Yes yes and yessity yes. Thank you for posting Rose.

    I don’t comment in this way often, but as God is my guide, Vern Seitz will be my earliest detection warning and one of my sleeper cases.

  17. Ragdoll says:

    I have prayed Mark 4:22 over Jacob’s, as well as the others on BOC. I believed God would bring it into the light.

    I can’t imagine what the Wetterlings are going through. I’m also humbled that they would learn of their beloved son, brother and friend’s fate, in this life. My heart goes out to them. It breaks for them

  18. Ragdoll says:

    Part of my comment want into the interweb ethers. Typical

  19. Ragdoll says:

    My messages are not showing up in full….at least from my end. Just an FYI in case it’s technical

  20. Ragdoll says:

    Peri-grey…. I wish I could see the colour thru your eyes! :) I miss my blue blankie :(

    Is it possible there’s a network or connection, direct or indirect, between Vern Seitz and Daniel Heinrich? (Child porn ring….that sort of thing? Seitz certainly came across as someone who may have known something about Jacob’s case…definitely obsessed with it).


    Side note, my uncle is still missing in Colorado. Keep him in your prayers? He is bi polar; not on meds and hasn’t posed a threat to himself or others. Cluster B’s have manifested including narcissism, grandiose, psychosis, paranoia…voices. I’d be indebted to you. Heart U! God bless you and yours xo

    You are always on my page Ragdoll, its uncanny :)
    I don’t know yet on a possible connection – but as you know, I am 100% convinced Seitz was a pedophile (among other things)

    Prayers for your dear Uncle, you, and your family. xo

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