CAYLEE/CASEY ANTHONY CASE: JOSE BAEZ ENTERS LYONS DEN WITH DEATH PENALTY ATTORNEY ANDREA LYON

Orlando, FL– Appearing in court today, in advance of an approved pro hac vice motion, Casey Anthony’s lead defense counsel Jose Baez introduced the latest addition to the Baez Bevy of Barristers: Andrea Lyon. Baez took the opportunity to introduce Ms. Lyon in the form of a impromptu commercial, as pointed out by Prosecuting attorney Jeff Ashton.

Lyon

Lyon is an associate Dean for Clinical programs and Professor at DePaul University School of Law. From her profile, Ms. Lyon claims to have defended over 30 potential capital cases at the trial level, and of those 30, 19 through the penalty phase, winning all 19.

(Editors Note: If a case is in the penalty phase, wouldn’t the term “winning” be an oxymoron? Perhaps a more succinct explanation means “19 of her convicted clients will not fry.”  Does that mean she tossed the other 11 losers right after conviction because she knew she had no prayer of saving their hides?)  

Baez delivered a 16 page amendment last night following court filing hours and expected the media, who has not as of yet been served, to appear and argue their request for the video of Casey Anthony in the prison infirmary following the news that remains of a small child had been found a few blocks from the Anthony home. Judge Strickland ruled they would have 7 days to intervene and he will hear their arguments to Baez amended motion late next week if requested. Counsel for the county objected several times as to specific incidents contained therein, and deposition transcripts they have not yet received.

Next up, attorneys for Roy Kronk, Jesse Grund and Amy Huzienga argued against the outstanding duces tecum motions surrounding their clients phone and text communication records as an invasion of privacy.

Collectively, a strong case presenting the lack of a good faith basis and materiality for the motion in the first place was argued by all.

Baez responded by alleging Jesse Grund, “for all intents and purposes,” was a suspect in this case who took a polygraph; the good faith basis has been established by the state in available discovery. He went on to say the OCSO should have requested this information from Roy Kronk; at which time Judge Strickland interrupted and informed him he was “straying” and that he did not wish to hear what “they” may have done wrong, but only what the defense good faith basis entails. 

Motion stayed pending attorney agreement, motion granted for non- present parties.

Enter Stage Left; Macaluso. I admit it, this is what I was waiting for. As a professional, I feel compelled to acknowledge I was not disappointed. I am on record from the announcement of his potential involvement on the defense team I felt he was the strongest chance Casey Anthony has at an actual defense strategy. Still do. His current embroilment in millions of dollars in civil litigation and looming California Bar charges notwithstanding. He is engaging, charismatic, said “um” the least and bar none had the coolest watch.

(editors note: I couldn’t get a tight enough shot but I’m pretty sure it was the un-affordable to most, Big Bang model Hubolt. Sweet.)

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135 Comments

  1. mamacrazy30 says:

    ok Blink, now ya got me wondering. with regards to your comment to post 38. do ya mean the vid or do ya mean the case? ’cause i have a feeling that this won’t go to trial. as much as i would love to watch it on court tv (well, whatever it’s called now), i have a feeling that when the money starts to dry up from pics, video, maybe a book in the deal(?), they’ll (casey’s defense) give her the heads up on the fact that they don’t have a chance. then its time to change her plea and throw her to the mercy of the court. as long as she’s not convicted she can still rake in the dough yo.

  2. mamacrazy30 says:

    oh blink,
    i have been reading past posts and its starting to sound like a bad movie.
    i’m the real zanny…NO i’m the real zanny..NO I’M the real zanny…

  3. mamacrazy30 says:

    i’ve posted this elsewhere but i’ll put it out here…i aint scard..
    i think g&c knew what was up and when casey went to jail the first time, thats when they started. every time they go on camera (in any situation) they profess their love for casey, and yet, they say something that screws it up for her. i don’t think its denial. i think its the manipulation that they use on each other. i think that every time g&c go in front of a camera they know its a nail in casey’s coffin. but they do it in such a twisted manner that they can look her in the eye and say hey “we did every thing we could, we went to EVERYONE, we even LIED for you”, and ya know what ……they did.
    REMEMBER…mom, i just saw your cameo..oh, witch one? casey was pissed at cindy for that, and cindy knew it. it hasn’t stopped her (cindy) from goin’ there.
    Jailhouse vids….
    casey always with “if the media, because of the media…etc yada
    cindy was the one to go to the media, as well as the first to contact le.

    its a nasty game of who made who with each other..

  4. JWG says:

    Not to put a plug into WS…but I don’t know that I agree it is “the National Enquirer of the Web” (ouch, that hurt). I basically only post there as I have found a few folks I share a bond with and a common desire for intellectual pursuit.

    But I digress.

    I am curious as to your opinions regarding the “zenaida” website that was found at least as far back as January of this year. Could this have been a site KC created to “prove” to momma that ZFG existed? I have torn apart the source code for this site and believe it to be genuine. Info on the site was forwarded to OCSO in late February. Is it no coincidence the death penalty was placed back on the table less than two months later?

    Link to website:
    http://www.myspace.com/389838213

    Discussion:
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3806663&postcount=1100

    JWG- I have several very close friends I met through WS. As I have followed your work and that of those you speak as having bonded with, I can say it is superb. However, as a whole, I stand by my comments. For instance, notice how I’m ok with you coming here and rendering a difference of opinion , and I will post it and respect it. Links to this site there are banned. Try asking *why* openly, you will be banned just like everyone else has been, and your post concerning same deleted. How does that nonsense advocate victims in any way? Professional jealousy has no place in advocacy, nor does allowing members to discuss subject matter that nobody pays attention to and than when they wake up as the car is careening off the road, they delete it all and pretend nothing happened. You know there is a hundred threads over there started and maintained by my work, although no references to it are allowed? You think there might be something more than meets the eye over there?
    That said, keep up the great work. If I’m not mistaken you coined the phrase “frightened simians”, hilarious.

    I agree the site appears to be genuine, but I dont think Casey built it, I think it was Lee. I also can tell you the defense is pretty much going to try to pin that on Tracy M, and they will fail. She never touched the computer in the Anthony home, she is a smart lady. The DP went back on the table for 2 major reasons, imo, 1. Casey’s latents were found on the duct tape around sweet Caylee’s skull. 2. The soil samples taken from the area of the playhouse will contain evidence of decomp and Caylee’s DNA. Recall the DP was taken off the table because they had no “body” at the time, but got a GJ indictment for Murder 1 in 30 minutes. The aggravating factor was not present until now.
    B

  5. susan says:

    oh, to all those who say kiomarie said the area behind the school(so the argument being thats not where caylee was found)well there is a sentence in her interview (while they are standing behind the school, she says “and an area ACROSS THE STREET”

  6. JWG says:

    Blink…OK, got it (understood).

    Regarding the site, it could not be Lee. It was created June 16. I have researched myspace hacks for two (boring) months now and the creation date cannot be hacked in the page source code. The pages are created on demand on the server side each time a client calls for them, and the requisite information is dumped into the page at that time. There is no way for a myspace user to do anything more than hide the display of that information on the client computer, but it will always be squirreled away in the page source.

    I thought latents were not found on the duct tape?

    (P.S. – yes, I coined the phrase “frightened simians” to allow me to reference the website I needed to. As I said, I understand what you are saying.)

    Why does June 16 mean it could not be Lee? I agree it very well may have been Casey, but if our only information is that because we are assuming he did not have knowledge, I dont think that excludes him per se- do you have the IP connected to the laptop? I have it if you want it.
    Latents of George, Cindy, and Lee were not found on the duct tape. It has not been disclosed publicly as to whether or not Casey’s have. I was told by a source they were, and I believe it.
    OCSO had the info on the ZG myspace very early on, the tie-in to Casey (or whomever was on her laptop) was discovered through a subpoena on that site, and confirmed from the unallocated sections of the laptop forensic report. I hope you blasted all those that thumped you and I for referencing that data on 6/16, we were right!!
    Lastly, did you watch Annie Downing’s depo? Teehee.
    Can I email you at this address?
    B

  7. IVOIRE says:

    HEY BLINK..BUT, IT IS NOT NICE TO KEEP SECRETS…

    SO, WHAT IS THE FINAL STRORY ON THE “TRAFFIC TICKET” THAT M AND MA DID NOT GO INTO DETAIL DURING ANNIES DEPOSITION?…….

    SO, DOES BOZO KNOW ABOUT THE LATENT PRINT AND PLAYHOUSE SOIL SAMPLES?…(IE WHERE THERE ALREADY RELEASED TO BOZO BUT HELD BACK FROM THE PUBLIC–OR HAVE THEY NOT BEEN RELEASED AT ALL TO DATE?..)

    PRETTY PLEASE..THANKS J

  8. susan says:

    re: zg22 traffic ticket, wouldnt le have tried to locate this zg regardless of whether she’s actually casey or not ,since she seemingly disappeared when this case went public

    yes
    B

  9. Sue says:

    Casey’s body language towards Baez is NOT favorable these past few court appearances. She’s much more favorable towards the female atty’s (Boden and Lyons). She leans in towards them and smiles,laughs,bats her eyelashes at them. This to me is very apparent. Anyone else??? Could she already be thinking about throwing Baez under the bus for something unethical?

    No, she has been told there are rumors those 2 are “involved” so she has been admonished to act accordingly.
    B

  10. Scoop says:

    Blink:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember Tim Miller being allowed to view the remains. My assumptions of a burial are based upon my own feelings and imo were verified by his statements.

    Can’t wait for your article.

    :)

    Love your site…

    Keep it coming!

    NO, Tim Miller did not view Caylee’s remains. Absolutely, positively did not. I know because I was on the phone with him, he saw the area after that portion of the scene had been cleared and saw the “depressed” area where the bag was found.
    B

  11. susan says:

    felicity:”i think lyons thinks she can get casey aguitted”,i havent seen or heard any statistics or boasts,of lyons clients walking free after facing the dp, i think its more a bad sign ,they had to go so far as to add lyons.

  12. susan says:

    JWG,do you know if the search dates for 100th episode of one tree hill,neck breaking,how to make chloroform,are actually correct,or could have been changed? and the picture called girl(with the stuffed animal hanging)can you tell if casey posted that herself,(where did it come from)

  13. susan says:

    blink,you know,what if they claim accident via pool,has that been ruled out,will the autopsy be able to show, ,could they would they?what would happen then?would accidental pool drowning be able to be distinguished from intentional pool drowning?sorry cant wait for your upcoming piece
    lol, your going to have to
    B

  14. IVOIRE says:

    SO BLINK.ARE G AND C STILL WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH BOZO OR HAVE THEY FALLEN OUT ( SINCE CASEY DOES NOT EVEN LOOK AT THEM)?

    SO, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN A CRIMEWRITER?

    DO I NOT GET TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS?

    DID YOU GET CINDY’S EMAILS ( END OF MAY) THAT I TRIED TO POST BUT IT DID NOT GO THRU?..I SEND YOU A MESSAGAE ON YOUR BOARD?

    THANKS J

  15. gh says:

    Blink,
    Please check this out on utube Caylee Anthony–Who’s the Daddy? Incest? The…
    4,318 views
    albatross234 OMG it would all make sense of the REAl story of what happened with casey, george and cindy. Please look!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. gh says:

    Blink,
    Utube Caylee anthony’s father-the real reason for secrecy-incest-the family secret-makes sense what casey holds over cindy and george, and she is about ready to throw them under the bus with this new attorney that is on board.

  17. Sue says:

    In regards to post #211 (insessionstrials), my thought is that the video has been viewed by LE, the judge, prosecutors office etc. If indeed Baez was “man-handling” his client in this video, there is no doubt that Baez would have been off this case already. The judge and the prosection have complaints against Baez that has not been made public. I am supposing that they are investigating “something”. Could this video, and the accusations that there is an intimate relationship between lawyer and client be what the judge is looking into?

  18. JWG says:

    Hi Blink,

    The way I read the forensic report was that no latent prints were found at all. GA, CA, and LA prints were all submitted for exclusionary purposes in case prints were found…but none were found. Maybe I read that report wrong, and am very happy if I did read it wrong.

    If Lee did the website on June 16 it would indicate he was somehow involved in the crime. I know many have strong feelings about Lee, GA and CA based on their behavior after KC was arrested, but from everything I have read and heard about their behavior in the first 24 hours after everyone realized Caylee was missing I see nothing but frantic and concerned relatives. I continue to take that behavior at face value as indicative they were not involved in the crime (cover up is another story).

    I don’t see an email as being required when I post, but if I had to enter one in the past it would have been valid :-) (so yes, you can email me at that address)
    It does not say that no prints were found, JWG, read the fine “print” LOL.

    I agree the family was not involved with what happened to Caylee. They were however, very involved in attempting to cover up what happened.

  19. PamTX says:

    B-
    It comforts my soul to know of your involvement, care and concern in this case….and has been since what appears to me, since day one. As the one year anniversary of the initial 9-1-1 call approaches, I completely trust that; “No doubt, baby girl will be heard”. This one is still on God’s time isn’t it? For some reason, I believe you have MUCH more information than you have EVER released and find comfort in that. God Speed and may he give you the strength to press on in your quest to bring justice to this little doe-eyed angel baby girl!!! No pressure there for you…but many of us would walk with you directly to court if we could!
    Yes Pam, I do. Very astute observation.
    I remember distinctly where I was, what I was doing, and everything that I dropped that I had been working on when I learned of Caylee Marie Anthony’s plight for the first time. She defined my path, and I will never let her down. I stand for Caylee.
    B

  20. Gina says:

    Sorry but they can’t make the Zanny the Nanny story go away it plays to big a part in Casey’s original lies & wild goose chases with detectives & the FBI. Transcripts of Casey describing to LE not just ‘Zanny’ but her Mother, Father, Sister, Roomates, this was her excuse, alabi & they are still standing by this obscene lie.

    They can’t erase it at trial, how can anyone think it will just disappear when Casey still won’t deny the Zenaida in the civil suit is not the one & Cindy, George & Lee said as recently as a couple weeks ago ‘Zanny’ is still out there & they have their ‘pi detective’ following leads & keeping tabs on a ‘Zenaida’ somewhere in FL.

    How does this go away at trial? You mean they just switch stradedy when it suits them & the prosecution goes OK, that’s not their story let’s hear what it is now & we’ll disprove the newest bunch of crap instead?? No friggin way & if so I just giver totally up on our judicial system. Not even the A’s should get away with changing their defense when the mood hits them or the old pile of crap becomes too transparently ridiculous & they know it doesn’t have a prayer at trial. Can we all do that when we get in trouble with the law, with no accountability? I’m still waiting for these pathological lying morons to be charged with tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, hindering the investigation, but if they change the story again,what they say & do in the past won’t count? I refuse to believe they can change the game plan like it’s no big deal & nothing will happen to them & it won’t be fiercly challenged by the state trial. That would make me sick & I’ve already had about all I can take of this freak show.

  21. Gina says:

    I’m saying that they are locked into the Zanny the Nanny story whether they like it or not & if they suddenly want to divert from that sad little defense well IMO to little too late, that’s one thing I’ll disagree with they will not be allowed to switch gears when the trial starts & push the Zanny defense away like it never happened.

    No way no how not when they are as of now still standing by the story, not because they want to but because the damage is done, the lies are on record, Sawgrass Apts., Blanchard Park, all of Casey’s defense & the people,places that were involved in Caylee’s ‘abduction & murder’ ties into the Zanny the Nanny defense. It ain’t going nowhere because it’s aleady done.

    I agree with you they should have abandoned the “Zanny” defense long ago, but I’m not saying it will work.
    B

  22. IVOIRE says:

    BLINK..IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACCESS YOUR ARTICLES GOING BACK FROM THE BIGINNING OF THIS CASE? I TRIED TO GO TO THE LAST PAGE BUT IT ONLY GOES TO JANUARY..?…ARE THEY ARCHIVED ON THIS SITE?..THANKS

    Some of my published work is not on here, and won’t be until after the trial.
    B

  23. riddlemethis says:

    Blink,

    Post #54, “I also can tell you the defense is pretty much going to try to pin that on Tracy M”

    Threw me….who is Tracy M? LP’s associate who stayed at the house?

    yes
    B

  24. JWG says:

    “Lastly, did you watch Annie Downing’s depo? Teehee.
    Can I email you at this address?”

    Yes, I did watch the deposition, and the most interesting part is when it was interrupted near the end as they were asking Annie if she knew whether or not KC has a fake ID. She answered no…then there was a long pause and they decided to take a break. Perhaps the attorney needed a bio-break, but I found the timing intriguing.

    (P.S. – I see my email now and yes, that is the correct one.)

    Lol, I thought you might agree with me on your fave part! Guess what Mr. Dill was holding in his hand?
    B

  25. westsidehudson says:

    Some of my published work is not on here, and won’t be until after the trial.
    B

    Hmmm….

    Blink, maybe when it’s over, you can write a book and steal the thunder from anyone else trying to profit from all this. I’d certainly rather read yours.
    Would be nice to get thoughts from Mark NeJame, but I suppose he can never reveal all, because of attorney client privilege?

    Yes Nejame is limited by that relationship, but he is a friend and I truly believe he felt great compassion for the Anthony’s.
    B

  26. westsidehudson says:

    It’s fascinating. I remember reading and hearing about the concerted effort to create reasonable doubt through various organized internet posters who are Casey Anthony supporters. Over at Caylee Daily, they have links to another forum discussion on that and the ZG ID connection. I’m sure that you are aware, as some of the posters appear to be people that you know. The wuku.com sight purportedly is run by the defense, the Anthonys and Dominic Casey. I didn’t realize that this activity was actually illegal, perhaps unethical, but I didn’t realize illegal. Supposedly police investigators are in receipt of everything that was going down and are aware of those involved.
    I bet Rev Grund was one person who passed this on to police. I remember him telling Nancy Grace that he had a private investigator checking into all of this.

    Are you aware of all of this, and if so, are there charges coming? Are these people still operating,( it sounds as if they are)? Supposedly, they have been digging up dirt on anyone that they feel is a threat for some time now, including hacking some people’s computers…wow, is all I can say if true.

    Not sure what site your referring to about the ZG ID connection, but that work was copyrighted before it ever hit the web, so I hope appropriate credit is given. I am definately aware of some of that peripheral crap that went down as this nimrods thought they could run all over the web anonymously. Not so.
    B

  27. TM says:

    We give you ’til Tuesday. OR ELSE! (lol)

  28. westsidehudson says:

    I meant “SITE”, not “sight” in my last post

  29. westsidehudson says:

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread432443/pg6
    It’s not that detailed Blink,it eludes to what you uncovered and it does mention you somewhere.
    Yes, that one I am aware of.
    B

  30. JWG says:

    “Lol, I thought you might agree with me on your fave part! Guess what Mr. Dill was holding in his hand?”

    You’re messing with me :-)

    What was he holding? And if it is what I think it is, how / when did he get it?

    No way, I would not dare mess with you :)
    It was rhetorical though, and he got it from me
    B

  31. riddlemethis says:

    OMG……OMG….Blink, are you saying what I think you are saying?? She had a ZG id?? Holy Smokin’….smoke signals!! I read about those tickets, but didn’t get in depth with it.

    JWG- I read all your code work, understand web design and coding just enough to follow it. Great, great work, but still don’t see how that would bring DP back to the table in and of itself. I can see her just saying she coincidentally made a page for her “friend and nanny” that morning using the email address of Zanny. (B-4 caylee was ‘taken’ that day) I’ve done pages for my puter illiterate friends. She’d just say she was checking it for clues when signing in later on. Not saying it would fly, but it goes to the rest of her hoax. Rebuttal welcome if I missed something, please feel free to poke holes back at that! :)

    uhoh, riddle did not read the article.. tsk tsk. lol. That is the theory, one of them, yes.
    The site alone would not put DP back on the table, and they had that when they pulled it off. The defense knows that, thus why Lyon was brought on.
    B

  32. riddlemethis says:

    …..Oh man….okay….lest I sound even dumberer…can you link me up? …..or is it an article on here all ready? I followed this story like a hound until Kelly Currin Morris (prayers), then got side tracked.
    …and hmmm…me thinks ur “theories” have a little more weight behind them than most…..just sayin’

  33. riddlemethis says:

    ……never mind….I got it…..my bad.

  34. IVOIRE says:

    SO BLINK.ARE G AND C STILL WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH BOZO OR HAVE THEY FALLEN OUT ( SINCE CASEY DOES NOT EVEN LOOK AT THEM)?

    SO, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN A CRIMEWRITER?

    DO I NOT GET TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS?

    DID YOU GET CINDY’S EMAILS ( END OF MAY) THAT I TRIED TO POST BUT IT DID NOT GO THRU?..I SEND YOU A MESSAGAE ON YOUR BOARD?

    THANKS J

    I, there is trouble in scamthonyland.
    What Cindy emails are you referring to?
    B

  35. IVOIRE says:

    HEY BLINK..SO, DID JOHN DILL HAVE A COPY OF YOUR ARTICLE AND A FAKE I.D.????????

    Iv-
    affectionally, you need a course in subtle. Have you ever heard the term “Under the radar”?
    Geeze.
    B

  36. IVOIRE says:

    HI BLINK.. I TRIED POSTING THE EMAILS FOR YOU THAT CINDY WROTE LAST WEEK TO 2 DIFFERENT BLOGGERS ON I.D…CINDY SENT BACK 3 EMAIL RESPONSES REGARDING THE SCAM FOUNDATION…I TRIED TO POST A COPY BUT YOUR SITE KEPT TELLING ME THAT MY TRYING TO SEND IT WAS A “DUPLICATE ” ( BUT IT NEVER POSTED.??)…ANYWAY, I STARTED A THREAD ON I.D WITH CINDY ANTHONY’S EMAILS SINCE SHE ACTUALLY HAD THE
    F-ING GALL TO STATE ” :

    CINDY ANTHONY (5-24-09~)” JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE WILL BE WHEN HER “REAL KILLER” IS FOUND”…..

    THE EMAILS ARE ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE… ALSO, MIDWAY DOWN IS THE EMAIL CONFIRMAION OF AUTHENTICITY FROM THE BLOGGER WHO WROTE TO CINDY ( THE COMPUTER SPEAK SYMBOLS )..

    http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3581916879/m/21119725101/p/1

  37. IVOIRE says:

    HEY BLINK..SO, DID JOHN DILL HAVE A COPY OF YOUR ARTICLE AND A FAKE I.D.????????

    Iv-
    affectionally, you need a course in subtle. Have you ever heard the term “Under the radar”?
    Geeze.
    B

    HEY BLINKIE..I CONNECTED ALL THE DOTS THAT I COULD—DID I GET IT RIGHT?…YES OR NO?…YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT MY EMAIL IF IT HAS TO BE “AMBIGUOSLY OUT THERE”… I ALWAYS LIKED TO BE “TEACHER’S PET” AND GET THE ANSWER RIGHT.. THANKS …J

    PS..I LIVE IN FLORIDA SO THAT IS WHY I HAVE BECOME OBSESSED WITH THIS CASE…THERE ARE SO MANY F-ING LUNATICS DOWN HER ( AND NO I AM NOT A NATIVE FLORIADIA)..

    IV-
    I have said all I am going to say right now; with reason.
    B

  38. riddlemethis says:

    So….a dumber comment…if you will. This theoretically makes Dowling (that was on purpose) a liar. Why?? She would get immunity easily……unless they didn’t need to give it,(fingerprints not yet disclosed) okay, but wouldn’t they give it to her anyway to nail the coffin? (Shaking head…confused).

    LOL on the Dowling… Howeling on the Dowling actually. Why would they need to give Annie anything? That would presume they didnt have it already, no?
    B

  39. IVOIRE says:

    RE:FLORIDA..PSYCHO SWEETON LADY GOES TO ORLANDO…HUGE CHILD PORNO BUST–OCCURING RIGHT NOW… BASKETBALL FAN GIRL GOES MISSING…BILLY BOB’S DAUGHTER KILLING THE CHILD SHE WAS WATCHING?..??? BRUTAL!

  40. westsidehudson says:

    I don’t entirely understand why people write directly to Cindy Anthony, and frankly, I have less comprehension as to why she writes back. Either way, there will never be a ‘meeting of the minds’, or satisfaction, in either direction. She has taken a position that she will not budge from regardless,(only MAYBE when confronted in a court of law where she may be forced to answer certain things). When people write, it only reinforces her belief that they are victims, and yes, in a sense they are. It is like a parasitic symbiotic relationship with both sides feeding on each other. People write to her knowing she’s not going to change her mind and she can’t resist writing back; both sides thrive on it. It’s not going to change anything. Unless there is investigative work that uncovers & proves wrongdoing, she will continue on with the same platform.

  41. Kleat says:

    Hey IVOIRE, you asked what Dill was holding in his hand— it was actually a 50cc syringe filled with ‘truth serum’ and the ‘take a break’ and go off record was to contemplate the question ‘To Use or Not to Use’…..

    ;)

    Hey Blink, trying hard to catch up on all this… didn’t miss the part on your new and upcoming article… waiting patiently… patiently… patiently…. (Is it ready yet?!??!?!! ;)

  42. IVOIRE says:

    HEY KLEAT….I ONLY WISH WE COULD HAVE SEEN THAT SIDEBAR! BUT, ANNIE -LIAR -DOWNING DOES LIE BOLD FACE AND SAY THAT “SHE WAS ALONE” WHEN SHE GOT THE TICKET ( I RE-WATCHED IT)..ALSO, I THINK SHE LIED ABOUT THE XAANAX TOO; VERY CAGEY GIRL… IV

  43. IVOIRE says:

    http://www.youtube.com/v/EE6vlWbuLA4&hl=en&fs=1

    HEY BLINKIE….THERE DEFINATELY IS TROUBLE IN SCAMTHONYLAND CUZ EVIL CINDY – AND KIN— ARE TAKING THEIR SHOW ON THE ROAD–TRYING TO STAY ONE STEP AHEAD OF THE LAW..LOL!…

    I, there is trouble in scamthonyland.
    What Cindy emails are you referring to?
    B

  44. Kleat says:

    What is the big family secret that keeps the Anthony’s protecting the daughter but then says ‘I don’t care where Casey is…’

    Could it be that Casey was pretending to be all these things that she wasn’t really, created a reality for herself as a high school graduate, a Valencia student, a person who is moving out to her own apartment, a person with an important job and a nanny, etc etc etc etc.

    What about Jesse Grund’s DNA test to see if he was Caylee’s father? Would the test of the baby’s DNA have been kept on file and would the FBI have long ago excluded any relation to be the father of Caylee? What of George’s DNA test that the FBI ran– wouldn’t they include a paternity test, just as they did with Lee? Is George proven to be Casey’s biological father?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA_DzEDquTk&feature=channel

    Why did Baez ‘clamp his mouth’ last summer when Cindy was asked by Geraldo, who the baby’s father was?

    NO mother or grandmother, who knows the last name of their baby or grandbaby’s father, EVER forgets that name. I believe that for a certainty, unless they have serious memory failure problems.

  45. Kleat says:

    And, isn’t it curious that Casey chose George for a visit last summer in Jail, not Lee, not Cindy, but George… and LE made surreptitious audio (at least) recordings in the car as they drove George to the visit. And we never hear any more about this ‘visit’ but it did happen, it seems. What would LE and the FBI learn from this… only if there were clues to the whereabouts of Caylee, kidnapped or otherwise? Or was there a need to investigate more, the relationship between George and Casey by watching them interact when together alone.

  46. westsidehudson says:

    “6/1/2009—–Motion To Stay—–OR DEFER THE CIVIL CASE UNTIL RESOLUTION OF THE PENDING CRIMINAL CASE”

    Was this filed by Casey’s civil attorney? If they had dropped the counter suit, would that have been indicated with this filing? My point being, I can’t believe that they have not dropped the counter suit yet.

  47. westsidehudson says:

    After I read about that yuku group story online yesterday, I moseyed over to WS to read some posts. Interesting. Under the SODDI thread, someone who appeared to be defending Casey Anthony might have threatened another poster with a lawsuit. I do believe that the defense group may have trolls on board there. I know that you mentioned that you’re not enamored with that site, but do you believe that they are aware of this organized effort and that they may have been infiltrated by it? I don’t get the point though, because they (the grp) are not likely to sway sentiment on that site. Maybe they are just running ‘test theories’ to see how it would float or be fought in court?
    Also, is this actually illegal activity?
    PS
    I don’t post there, just read.

  48. Steadychick says:

    Blink — Was Annie lying about KC bringing Caylee to Dante’s apt and hanging out? When Dante S visited Websleuths (if it was him, and I think it was) he stated that Caylee had NEVER been in his apt, that he had spoken with Annie about this, and that he would have known if she had been there.

    You know, can’t say. I know Annie is lying about a few things. However, you also cant trust unverified statements said anonymously on WS. That has happened frequently.
    B

  49. JM says:

    Hey Blink,

    Sorry to bug you, but you’ve been saying you were going to post your theory on what happened to Caylee. I’m dying to know! When can we expect it?

    Thanks!

    J

    LOL, My apologies, I did not say I would post my theory on what happened to Caylee. I said I would post my theory on what’s coming next, and what I believe will be the course of events the criminal case takes. I will, but I have been on the Ocasio case and a few of my interviews/consults for the piece had to be pushed back. I promise, I will as soon as I can. You understand that for me, a raw missing persons case will always take precedence, they deserve that. I did that for Caylee when we first learned about her case.
    Thanks for your your readership and your patience.
    B

  50. Kleat says:

    Does Casey’s behaviour in the time period leading up to her pregnancy, the reputation of being the close-to-home one who had the reputation of being ‘the mom’ looking out for her friends, driving them home from parties as she was not the drinker, fit with the behaviour of someone who might be in an abusive situation. George leaving after the baby was born and Cindy taking the child as her own. Casey becoming more conflicted with her parents, her statement that ‘I am a lot like you’ on jail video. ‘The mom role’ as a bit of a reversal from the role of daugher/child in the family relationship.

    Would Casey’s denial of her pregnancy, even denial of having sex (she said apparently she didn’t even have sex so she couldn’t be pregnant) be really about denying a pregnancy from incest, and the need for Jesse as ‘surrogate’ real father and an escape from the family unit, until Jesse brought that house of cards down with his paternity test. If there was a father out there, why is it not clear through the name and other information Casey gave, unless it’s to cover something up and it’s not just Casey, it’s the whole family covering up. Casey was not embarrassed about telling the world that Jesse was the father, so why cover up the real father and make it impossible to find such a person in layers of conflicting stories and lies… makes no sense if you name someone else like Jesse who didn’t care if he was the biological father, he loved the child as his own regardless of biology.

    And George left for a period of years. And George lied about seeing Caylee and Casey together on June 16th with a ‘TV movie-picture perfect’ reason, remembering his FoodTV show. (what were they cooking, George???) Did George do more than try to get wheel chocks and gas cans from Casey’s trunk, was he really instead, trying to find clues of Caylee’s whereabouts? Was Cindy’s ‘denial’ really a long-term denial of a deep family secret, more devastating to a family than bad gambling debts or email scams?

    Role reversal is a behaviour that might show Casey as a victim of incest and the ZG identity for herself, became an escape world from her reality in a dysfunctional family, now escalated from just the incest, to mother of a child being brought up in the same environment. That would, if true, mean Caylee is just as much at risk as Casey would have been and that Caylee would have as much chance of protection and help from Cindy, as Casey had. (if true)

    If this is true, it would be no excuse for killing a child, but it would go to the sentencing, and if true, there’s no way the DP would be applied by any jury.

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