Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Baez Motionfest in Court This Morning
Orlando, FL– If yesterday’s antics at the press conference of attorney for the search group Texas Equusearch, Mark Nejame, were a precursor to this mornings motions hearing, it should prove to be a long day.
Exactly what pending motions are slated to be heard as there are several before the court at this time, remains to be seen, however, all have been initiated on behalf of the defense team Jose Baez and Andrea D. Lyon.
It is presumed the court will hear: Motion to delay the economic charges against Casey Anthony, motion response on behalf of TES Founder Tim Miller to be certified as a witness in the criminal case, Motion of 90 pages regarding evidence tested by the FBI (insert yawn). Motion regarding Anthony Lazzaro phone records, motion regarding Dominic Casey records and motion to preclude Leonard Padilla, Tony Padilla, Tracy Mclaughlin and Rob Dick from testifying as prosecution witnesses. Motion for anything I forgot.
Strap in. Ride starts at 9:30AM EST, live feed here:
Mark Nejame, Todd Macaluso, Andrea Lyon Argue TES Motion
First Up-Mark Nejame vs. Andrea Lyon TES motion 10:18 AM
White shoes. Repeat. White shoes in court. Got the petty out of the way, thanks for indulging me.
Mark presents to his Honor, Stan Strickland, the vast problematic issues with a broad request, which could encompass 4000 different individuals.
Andrea Lyon argued this is not a fishing expedition, it is the equivalent of the defense relying on the “Trust Me” argument on behalf of the state. They are not looking to expose people’s personal information. Ms. Lyon went on say the defense is willing to hang out at Mark’s office until they get what they need.
Judge Strickland in recent receipt of the answer, deferring ruling upon review in short order.
Jose Baez Argues Tony Lazzarro phone records
Baez argues Lazzarro was served, and that the motion has been narrowed and only received response yesterday at 4PM.
AttorneyJay, for Tony Lazzarro, argues he was not served either, was notified by a third party as to ammended motion. Jay agrees to requesting the 6 week period of records from AT &T, but is not optimistic he will be able to. Furthermore, the materiality of the defense request post July 15, 2008, has not been shown. All communication had ceased by then.
Judge Strickland grants a portion of the defense request, June 1 through September 2008, within 30 days.
Jose Baez Argues Motion to Preclude Leonard, Tony, Tracy and Rob
Baez calls George Anthony. Casey begins weeping openly. George discusses his interaction with the team.
Linda points out Mr. Padilla puts up $50k bond, so how is it he was unaware that his intention was to find his grandaughter. George is doubletalking that they volunteered to provide security only once she was out. Jim Campbell, was the retired LE officer was staying at the home at the time. Mr. Baez had to be present when any person spoke to Casey or was around her, if he were not, a family member had to be present at all times.
George states he knew nothing about the privacy arrangements they agreed to. Linda pointed out there were several people that could have transported Casey back and forth, and that they requested this service.
Ms. Drane Burdick presented the audio interviews of Leonard, Rob, and Tracy, about 3 hours worth which the Judge will review. She requested an original copy of the signed agreements for all parties.
*Secret*.. What Baez presented as the true and correct copies of the executed agreements by all parties is NOT.. Ms. Burdick is aware of this
Judge Strickland points out that Baez has had well over a year to file a temporary restraining order as Padilla as he has been “breaking that agreement” all over TV under this argument.
Ms. Drane Burdick argued Baez motion is essentially a gag order, and their has been no agency established, they posess the burden to establish privlege in the first place.
Oral agreement was hatched upfront between all parties, and prior to the written agreement. The agreement to provide security was a condition of posting the bond in the first place.
BAM… What I eluded to, Tony Padilla did not SIGN that agreement in the motion. Hello, Florida Bar, please hold…
I am intentionally shortening this segment, The State ate his lunch, and I have no clue why, but ruling deferred.
Motion to Determine a Trial Date Check Fraud
The state argues the check issues are relegated to specific dates and feels although witnesses may overlap, there is not an issue as to hearing testimony in the murder case. Baez is the only attorney on the docket of the case. The victim, Amy Huizenga, is asserting her right as a victim for the matter to be concluded. As an alternative, the State advises they are willing to go the bench trial route, which would allay the concerns altogether.
Ms. Lyon argues it is not their position it should never be tried and it is the states fault for seeking the death penalty in the murder case. Ms. Lyon sugested the state postpone the check fraud charges 60–90 days behind the murder charge.
Judge Strickland is considering this ruling as well
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However, Body Farm science, or not, people have testified to the odor.
But then the defense will argue that that is a subjective measure and not proof; that the smell was from other items rotting.
******I meant the odor of decomp, not chloroform , in my last post.
# 137-Midwest Mom
“I was trying to think what evidence the defense could have in regards to the body being placed at the scene after casey was in jail. The only thing I could come up with is possibly the found some plant that grows only in the fall OR possible one of the items found wasn’t manufactured till Oct ..”
I was wondering about the pine terps, or are they everywhere in FLA?
That was an interesting thought about a manufacturing date! Although, depending on where such an item was found, it could have been introduced to the site after the body was placed there/
#137 Midwest Mom
In a previous post, Blink revealed that a pair of shorts found at the “find” site which were traced to Caylee, did not look to be as weathered/decayed as the other clothing found with the remains. this could be their “evidence”. see Casey/Caylee Anthony Case:Caylees Autopsy Revelations part I
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/20/cayleecasey-anthony-case-caylees-autopsy-revelations-part-i/
As for Baez claiming that the Dominic Casey videos prove there was no water, as far as I can tell there is nothing in that video to orient the viewer to exactly where they were exploring/filming. they could have been anywhere in that general area, and the only thing it proves is that you can’t see where you’re going because the foliage is too thick. He was poking that stick around and he didn’t find anything but all that proves is he didn’t find anything. It certainly doesn’t prove the body wasn’t there.
if LP was under Attorney Client Privy….why now is it that Baez is objecting and arguing this, why didnt he shut him up months ago, he has appeared on NG many nights and spoke many times why now should he be silenced?
Tony Padilla was on the Today show this am… he is coming out about what happened with the contract and set the record straight. Mystery solved.. he says that the contract he signed was different, didn’t get a copy, state is aware and Baez added his signature page to the contract Lenny agreed to. So there is another contract specific to “bondsman” out there. I attempted to find a link on NBS Today site but not one there yet.
He is also posting on WS on last nights thread coming out about what happened in order to get his creditability straight.
Tony and I are friends, I knew about the contract issues (there are more specifics not yet released) months ago. What I cannot believe, is that Baez would risk his clients representation yet again.
B
ok i know I am posting a lot…
one more question Blink
the check fraud case does Jose have to be her attorney on that? Can CA get a public defender or another attorney for the check case “IF” and i say that lightly the Dream Team is just to busy? does Florida Law require Baez defend her in all these cases…Murder trail, Check Fraud, ZG defermation case???? just wondering
Blink
Any chance Leonard, etal want to post ‘Their’ copy of their contract on your site?
It would make for some good reading; just saying.
Youtube video of Today Show this am with Tony Padilla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhFeHz5aRI
# 139 ItsMeLyn & Blink
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
“didn’t get a copy”
So this would seem as though it was planned from the get-go.
“What I cannot believe, is that Baez would risk his clients representation yet again.”
Never mind just that, what about losing standing with the Bar? What about the fact that this has appearances of tampering with evidence, in a sense? It, in my opinion, if true, is witness tampering, obstruction of justice, fraud, etc etc. It could be so many things. (Again, if true), I hope someone at the Baez office has some integrity, and comes forth with the original doc, and becomes a whistle blower.
Too bad no one uses those contracts any longer that are carbon with multiple pages, in various colors, that the ink pressure goes through all the forms. Those were more difficult to fake. And everyone was handed a copy. You can’t really slip a page in because they were typically numbered.
#72 HIGH FIVE ROFL…….Baez is such a sad sack in many ways….wink wink…..They have NO DEFENSE as I can see. Casey crying her tears….Oh God, spare us all hunny….She is not looking all that well today. TISK TISK. I bet the farm that Padilla is so sorry he ever got involved with this NUT CASE family. To see George continue to lie for his child killer of a daughter is rally sad. I understand that she is his daughter but, my god man….SHE KILLED HER….Yeah would think his loyalty would be to CAYLEE….SAD SAD FAMILY……He is gonna lie all the way through…The next thing we know is that Baez will most likely blame the Easter Bunny or Santa Clause. Wonder if Santa will have to bring his reindeers….What a mess. This piece of garbage seem’s like she isn’t gonna last too much longer….Maybe, just maybe Lee will finally see some light about his kid killer sister. maybe in hindsight Padilla might have wanted to stay the heck off of TV. He was all over Nancy Grace…..We all said he was crazy was posting this chick’s bond. WHy he really did, only he knows…..15min of fame? did he really think she was INNONCENT? A fine cast of moronic characters. Thats a given. Baez is trying to blame everyone but the one who really did it. CASEY! Yeah know…maybe if George and Cindy Anthony stayed the hell of of TV tehmselves, they would have been better off. It seems their lies are catching up with them and in the end, I hope and pray the DA tears them both apart on the witness stand…Yeah gotta know he will. CAn you imagine George on that witness stand. He is gonna go off like a firecracker on the 4th of July. and all the while he will be trapped like the rat he his on that stand. No walking off from there. I can’t wait until the mess of a trail starts. If indeed if ever does…..
Bravo again Blink….
Has this allegation been reported to the Bar?
Under the ethics obligations rules, I would assume it would have.
B
B how about asking your friend Tony to do a talk over here insead of over there? He said he was going back over there tonight, maybe he could split his time. Please let him know we would love to have him here.
lol, we were chatting about that last night. We have something in the works..
B
I’m sorry that I am posting so much, but I can’t believe that the other attorneys on the defense would stay with Baez, not report him, what have you, if they know what transpired. If this is found out to be true, continuing to work with someone fudging documents will reflect horribly on their reputations as well.
#154 WSH…. doesn’t appear the contract was tampered with so much as the actual one Tony signed wasn’t submitted but his signature page was. He had a separate one being a bondsman…to cover his license/job specific to him. That’s what needs to be produced.. his specific contract. Tony is covering his butt so to speak as it is illegal for him as the “bondsman” to sign that type of contract with the atty/client the way I interpreted what he said on WS.
For the life of me I can’t figure out why Baez would risk so much..his license along with his client… well can’t exactly put my thoughts out there on that one if ya get my drift. Might come back to bite me.
However I do find it odd, that for the longest Baez had no other clients in checking the clerks site under attorney in the “find case” section…now since January he has had to go out and take on more cases…. did the money train dry up?
That’s correct. The exact issue is that Baez produced a contract with verbiage indication Leonard, Tracy, and Rob were Tony’s employees. They were not. He requested the change because it was inaccurate, that paperwork was not included anywhere.
B
Is there a link to what Tony had to say? Is it in the general forum somewhere?
Blink
I went to the last page under the “motion hearing” on WS, and from what people have written, it sounds as though there might have been some kind of virus attached to the pages where Tony was corresponding, so I’m afraid to read there.
OOOPS I posted on the wrong thread last night so I’ll move over here. And Maura posted a really good post there, everyone should read or bring it over here so we can comment on. Here’s my rant from late last night:
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Comment by Shelly (J.G.) — August 21, 2009 @ 10:24 pm
As I watched the video’s of today’s court room proceedings I actually came away saddened. We all know that if Casey was innocent and they had a “smoking gun” to lead to her exoneration of the crime, she would be out of jail. I gave Silver a high five when I realized they were probably going after Tony L. today. Just like she pointed out to us. But, to realize the depth of destruction of so many others lives, is so sad.
Tim Miller is an American icon, people, he has taken the tragic loss of his daughter and spent his life, not living in luxury, but going where few feared to tread. This man exemplifies what is good in mankind. Now the next missing person who needs to be found might not get found because Tim and his team cannot get the volunteers to step forward to help.
I can understand and appreciate the fact that Casey has a right to a fair trial. But, the victims she is leaving in the trail of her pursuit of this right is WRONG. Somewhere in our legal system when a group of lawyers get together and throw the rights of others is wrong. What did Amy do to deserve this? She was so trusting and kind to Casey. So was Jesse. I don’t think they will go with Tony. I doubt seriously the LE would have cleared him and allowed him to be a part in the taping with Lee if his record, whereabouts, ect had not been clean as a whistle.
One of the smartest people I have ever known was an oncologist who married an attorney and gave up teaching at an ivy league school to go into practice in hubby’s town. She had to have shop at the local goodwill store. She wore the same five wrinkled outfits that were so old they were almost tattered. She looked like a bag lady not a doctor. She was so good that it took months to get an office appointment with her. I loved to watch this woman work. She would even sit on the floor in a patients room. She could never talk as fast as she thought. Other than Lyons weight problem, Lyons reminded me of this doctor today. I think I glimpsed a mind that is brilliant. And that is what makes a good lawyer, not how she looks.
So, Silver, my feelings that brilliant minds (we’ll forget poor NoWayJose here), can to me callously throw innocent people under the bus as a stratigy to get their client free, leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Silver, you got to help me with this one. It tears at my heart.
I think the defense has groomed Casey to look like the dejected waif in this saga. The greasy hair, no make up, unbecoming outfit that definitely showed that her waistline is not there anymore. Going to make the jury less inclined to see the preCasey. I did notice when Lyons was arguing her case and mentioning the enormity of her client could be put to death …the camera panned to Casey and Casey cringed and visibly was taken back.
If George had an eyejob it was botox and it’s time for another treatment. And another dip in the holy water, it didn’t work, and I am not being crass. You do not rededicate your life to God and tell such a blatant lie about he didn’t know…..
And no she did not acknowledge her parents. You can see Cindy reaching out her hand between the men in front of her. Casey never looked.
Maura you have such an analytical mind. I love reading your posts. I don’t think Conway will ever run for office again.
My question for the night is this. A judge channel surfing between Nancy Grace and Greta? Is this kosher for the judge responsible for this case to be admitting he’s watching news on TV about the case? I know from being a juror you are told not to watch TV or read or talk about anything about the case. Does this not apply to the sitting judge?
Good Morning All,
Glad I could at least add a little humor into an otherwise distressful situation. I will continue to lurk in the shadows of your brilliant minds and read. Concerning my comment #72-I know about these styling issues as I am a retired principal with “cankles”. Draw the eye up, up…..but to the face…not the hair adornment! Put all of those in a zip loc and give them to your granddaughters!
WSH, you commented to my question of the judge channel surfing, that basically a judge knows more than the jury, therefore, it seemed to you it was ok for him to watch the media coverage of the case.
The media disinformation is humongous in this case. Even we who search for the “truth” in all this stuff, have a hard time and we spend more time than any juror will spend searching for it. How can a judge who is watching the media coverage from the media spin on facts….be impartial. When Judge S. made that statement I cringed. Why? Because I can see Lyons saying in the future…Well, even the judge was watching it on TV. My client was convicted to die in a court where even the judge was biased by media coverage. Just this AM in the link provided to Tony P.’s statements on the AM show, the expert said that Casey had already been convicted in the public eye, and the prosecution would have an uphill battle to undo that.
#166 WSH I just went there and no virus notification here or last night. But that is the thread on which he was posting FYI
I went to the other site, and I didn’t have any virus warnings or wackiness (I am on a Mac)
Tony likes the Anthonys, said Casey was respectful and nice to him. And basically that Leonard has a big heart but goyt (paraphrased) addicted to the media attention, and is not always honest.
I am pasting some Q&A of interest. Out of respect for the posters, I’ve eliminated their names, but have indicated where T Padilla answers some questions. I hope that this isn’t a problem:
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So if LP only has “hearsay” knowledge of what went on in the house…will you or Tracy be called for depositions regarding ZFG?
TP:I am talking to Tracy on the phone. She has not been called and is not expecting anything. I know that I will not be questioned.
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Speaking of Geraldo, does he have anything to do with Defense support?
TP: Maybe only money wise.
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I understand that, but the FL Bar should be aware too. (**Padilla previously stated that the state was aware)
Wouldn’t it be better coming from the person involved? Then the prosecution isn’t seen as trying to “get” their opponents, they just corroborate it.
TP: Again we were never formally made of aware of the motion and its contents. I have really narrowed my group of media people I talk to because they are so selfish. They (the select media) told me about it. This case really went to some peoples heads thinking they were a huge part of it including a past member of this site. It really went to her head.
Lol, I had to call Tony to see who he was talking about, it is Leonard’s asisstant.
B
that’s got, not goyt!
# 164 Lyn
I guess that it was kind of a waste for Baez to do this, (if he did), because from what T Padilla says, it doesn’t even seem as though his testimony will be all that important. If anyone, it would be Tracy McLaughlin’s (sp?) testimony that would be relevant and important anyway.
# 169
Shelly
I could be wrong. But I never heard anything, in the past, about a judge needing to sequester himself and to avoid any info related to a case.
Perhaps a lawyer can clarify this issue…
wow, I need to go to ‘bond’ school, and not for a 007 degree but for understanding how all this works! So, from what I’ve caught up on so far, there was a contract signed by Tony of which, he requested a copy but got none (Burdick said), and there is a privacy agreement copy signed by who exactly? And there is a ‘signature page’ of an agreement but no copy of that agreement attached for Tony — or did Baez slip Tony’s signature page in with the ‘privacy contract’ and meld the two together for his own purposes? (to soon be called ‘oops… sorry… my mistake!’)
This is too weird. And then George, playing little ‘technically NO’ games with Burdick yesterday– you asked about ‘warehouse’, answer ‘no’… technically, he was telling the truth maybe, but it was ‘yes’ to ‘office building’ (which probably had warehouse spaces in it). Then he doesn’t understand how bonds and bail and ‘the money’ works. A retired police officer of some years experience, does not know how a bond and surity for a bond works and that someone has to front some cash?? Or did George think he paid for his own daughter’s bond?
George’s attempt at manipulating Ms. D-B was short lived, and would have escalated with George’s insistence on ‘clarification’ and ‘non-relevance’ issues for the purpose of being obstinate and difficult. HIs answer about meeting the Padilla’s at a ‘warehouse’ was ‘NO’, his answer about cop, retired or not, friend named Campbell, was ‘IT’S NOT RELEVANT’. Judge Strickland was clearly diffusing an escalation in George’s demenour on the stand, that by now, we too, can anticipate as we see George’s face shift here and there, and when his grin begins– we know the ‘R’ word isn’t far behind.
George had to know that someone lost money when bond was revoked, ex-cop or not, he knew and would know who lost the money and he knew who was bondsman and who put up the money because it was NOT the family or Casey herself. And he had to know that securing Casey was the reason those people were in and around the house, and for no other reason.
George’s life was at risk he said, as was all the family. So who from? Cindy had a baseball bat and George had to pull HER OFF the front line with protestors by her shirt sleeves!! (think the point yesterday of the hearing, was in addition to other things, to publicly profile the family as victims in fear for their lives from the kidnapper(s) of Caylee, that was how Baez played this out in front of the media, and poor Tim and Mark NJ got caught in the middle as George had to rush and ruin and put a stop to their press conference because it pre-empted T Mac’s own ‘media event’ in Judge Stan’s courtroom about proof of no body there.
Yesterday was a media event and Todd Mac played a key role for the jury’s benefit. WHY on earth is he letting his client sit in jail if they have proof? They are fishing, hoping to find someone in those thousands of volunteers who had some child related charges against him or her, saying that person could have switched locations with another searcher, the records don’t show that, but ‘it’s possible’. They need to show there are the types of people in those volunteers who fit a child predator. You bet they will want to do record checks on every volunteer until they find a nice choice of those innocent people. They are not looking to confirm who was in the area and could have searched– they are going to be looking for people they can suggest involved themselves with TES and planted Caylee’s body there. It’s not about who was on Suburban, it’s about getting ALL the names.
And I also don’t get the ‘phone records’ request bit– the state has all of Tony’s cell phone records, all of his text messages that are available, so WHY does the defense need to ask Judge Stan for an order so they can get same from AT&T and pings and whatever else? Why can’t they just ask the state for copies of all of these???
Because maybe, they don’t want the public to see what they are fishing for? Or maybe this is more of the red herring… and what they want is juicy info to embarrass and harrass Tony and to maybe even make Casey more angry with him by letting her know a few select details.
Thank goodness for roomie Nathan, Tony must be so thankful that he did not live on his own.
It’s so interesting to me that the A’s remember everything so clearly from the past 14 months — except when they’re asked a specific question that might make their daughter look bad. Then they just can’t seem to recall the events. George is especially good at that. But of course he’s the worst of the liars in that family. His facial expressions are such a “tell” when he’s lying.
No. 5 Downtown with all its ‘Blinkers’ on… board….
So glad you are going to have Tony here. I will drop him a note or PM and let him know that we are excited and to hurry up and get over here.
I did not say he would be here, I said we are working on something, I will post details when available.
B
What happened to the “Zanny did it” defense? I realize they’re throwing out all these other possibilities (Tony, Jesse, etc.), but how do you think they’re going to get around the Zanny theory? Anybody have any ideas on how the Zanny story fits into the whole murder scenario? I’d love to know your thoughts.
link to WSH I thought I had all the news links in my fav’s but cant find this one?
Shelly:
I asked this question on a law site. I removed the names of the nice lawyers who responded.
3 in all agreed. The last one mentioned the second one’s name, so I omitted it.
He said ” I agree with-redacted”-#2
Does a judge have to avoid reading or watching any media coverage of a case that s/he is residing over?
re: Casey Anthony case
1)No. The judge is not a trier of fact.
2)The short answer is no, a judge is not required to avoid going about his daily life. However, most judges attempt to avoid watching media coverage of cases they handle to avoid the appearance of impropriety.
As for your specific reference, I can tell you that it would be impossible for Judge Strickland to avoid being exposed to coverage of the Casey Anthony case. More importantly though, I can tell you from person experience that Judge Strickland is by far one of the most fair and even tempered judges on the bench. Both Ms. Anthony and the State are lucky that he is the judge of record.”
I hate to disagree with you Blink but those bar stools were red pleather with little silver sparkles and were usually repaired somewhere with, dare I say it, duct tape!
Nice!
B
I just got the chance to watch some of this and read all of the posts here. I must say, I was actually quite relieved, because to me, it means they have absolutely nothing. They are still “fishing” for something.
I have re-read the autopsy report also, which clearly states that Caylee was put in those woods months before she was discovered (consistent with six months time), and was never moved from the original position that she was left in (except for animal activity). From those reports, her skull remained in the same position the entire time. If I was on a jury, and I was given access to or details from the autopsy report, I would NEVER buy the story that the baby was placed there later. There was also evidence on top of the remains of “fallen leaves” which they say would have fallen there as early as October. If the fallen leaves and muck were in place, then it would have to be after the “animal activity”, in my opinion. So, the body was already decomposing, and the animals had already “scattered” bones before October/November.
As far as Tim Miller and Equusearch, I think the searchers would actually help the prosecution, as they will all testify to the amount of water that was in the area at that time, proving that it was all under water, and they were unable to search that exact location. As far as them being close enough, and not smelling any decomp., well, if she was under water, they probably wouldn’t smell any decomp. I would think swampy water would not have a very nice smell to begin with.
From what I have read, Texas Equusearch arrived on August 30th, and called off the search on September 7th due to environmental conditions and concerns. This further proves that the area was under water and they were unable to search there at that time.
There was clearly a decomposing body in Casey’s trunk. All evidence points to it, including initial statements by George and Lee to investigators, and a 911 call by Cindy. Also, as someone mentioned, Casey talked about the smell in her car herself, obviously trying to explain it away, in case anybody else happened to smell it.
Also, on August 11, 12 and 13, Roy Konk SAW the bags and “white object” and reported it. On December 11, the bags and remains were found in that same exact location. This also proves that Caylee was there before August 11th. So, between June 15th and August 11th, Caylee was placed in those woods.
Casey was arrested July 16th. Roy Kronk sees the bags/skull on August 11th. George states on August 12th that kidnapper’s have Caylee and they are “being watched”. I’m sure between July 16th and August 11th there were a lot of people wandering around that area and the Anthony home. I don’t think anyone could have dropped the body there during that time without being noticed.
Now they are obviously trying to point the finger at Anthony Lazzaro. But, he was actually cooperating with the police from the very beginning, and willingly allowed them to monitor his phone. I’m sure if the police trusted him to actually “work with them”, they were already sure that he was in no way involved in this crime. If I was sitting on a jury, this would also be important, and would lead me to believe that he was not involved at all with this.
Someone here mentioned that Tony Padilla was on WS
what site is WS -please?
Interesting note as TL’s lawyer is making is argument, requests ‘very broad’ , all these communications etc requested, ping requests that would track one’s locations allegedly– doens’t meet materiality req’s– esp tracking his location AFTER july 15th…. no defense showing why internet usage, WHO IT IS…. he may have been calling, sending internet, text messages to…
At the point where TL’s lawyer is making this point, the camera has shifted to a close up of Casey only, as TL’s lawyer says ‘WHO IT IS”…. that TL may have been calling, internet, etc… Casey is staring at the lawyer, listening intently, and as TL’s lawyer says ‘WHO IT IS HE MAY HAVE BEEN CALLING… who he may have been text messaging” sparks something in Casey and she begins to scribble something on her paper, looking down and she shows her paper immediately to Baez, she gets the paper back.
Casey had something to add about Tony– was she suggesting who he might have been calling during that period after the 15th? Was she restating Tony’s innocence perhaps, as she said before in public videos, or is she working to ‘build’ something against Tony.
Curious that this hit a ‘nerve’ or something to jog her memory about Tony calling someone else after July 15th when his relationship with Casey had been severed.
I am assuming that Team Padillia,has been in this line of work for awhile. They are experienced, they know the law. They bail a young woman out of Jail who has not yet left the nest.
Regardless if there was a contract, or confidential privilege. Morally one would think that they would have had some responsibility to inform Casey that she needed to be cautious of what she said to them because they could be subpoenaed to testify.
Since they did not do that instead they befriended her, then flipped on her, it may look to the jury that they had alternative motives for bailing her out. JMO
Sorry MM, but on this one you have your facts wrong. If you watched the motion hearing yesterday, there was about 5 different times in five different circles where Casey, Team Padilla, and her entire family, were all very much aware of what NOT to discuss.
As you have not heard a word of any one of their statements ( You will now because the State handed them to the judge) so how can you say they flipped on anyone?
B
# 182…Brain-dead alert
(on my own post)
It’s embarrassing that I made a typo with “residing” vs presiding.
Now I picture Judge Strickland floating, in a hovering house, above the court house….Geez
Finally watched the video of George on the stand yesterday. I just want to slap that smirk right off his face.
That man has to be the absolute worst liar I have ever seen. Those fluttering eyelashes, followed by the up-tilted chin, followed by the smirk ~ he may as well hold up a sign saying, “I am lying my behind off.”
That smarmy, Icelandic Pompodore fluffing , crazier than a soup sandwich jackass is an embarassment to the memory of his granddaughter. He did not know where the $50K came from?? I have a better question, where did the $50K come from the next time when THEY posted it?
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# 180-Chicago Judy
They are going to say that this nanny person, never located, had ties with others, and that she used an alias & that’s why she can’t be found. Or, they are going to cop to the lying, calling Casey a “compulsive liar”, who couldn’t stop lying even though her own life and freedom were at peril. A compulsive liar is one, who like OCD sufferers, can not moderate or stop their own lying: it is a compulsion.
At least, this is all in my opinion only.
# 175-Good post Kleat.
#189, your comment, Blink ~ We have all been wondering where that next $50k came from. Do you know, or have a good guess? I’ve been dying of curiosity.
From Casey, I believe I believe she has a deal or deals, which is legal until she is convicted.
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“where did the $50K come from the next time when THEY posted it?
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INDEED.
Blink’s response to 189– couldn’t do it, could’ja, Blink!!!
(and you said you were holding your tongue on that subject… only so long….but you did well… for a time…. it’s hard not to just come out and say it!!!) LOL what came out!!! crazier than a soup sandwich… never heard that one before… !
I know I am sorry, It’s just that I KNOW for a FACT he was lying again on the stand, I cant get past the arrogance.
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Tony Padilla intimated that Geraldo may be giving some funding to the defense, a deal??
I missed that, Geraldo and Baez know each other well, but I cant see him funding him.
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Karen, I rmr vaguely, a grilled cheeze sandwich, can’t remember seat colours or sparkles.
Blink, good for you. Don’t hold back. It now makes me feel 100% better when I saw the video of George. I thought I was going to have to hit something. Couldn’t find anything but hubby and need him around for awhile. He already thinks I’m obsessed with this case and believe me their are times when I see him shaking his head and I sit here and “mumble and say some not so nice words”.
Honestly, I think George is worse than Cindy and what is this showing Casey, yeah, keep on lying, although yesterday she really did not look good, maybe reality is finally seeping in, especially if she knows it maybe another year before trial.
# 189 Actually Blink, Iceland is very green, and Greenland is very icy. lol!
I meant the crayon color. So there.
teehee
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Ok I have not left a comment in a while…Im confused,now I just know that baby was under that water and she was placed there in the summer,but blinks belief that the defence will throw the parents under the bus is um kinda not going to happen,in the way I mean like…the defence will throw everyone under the bus,and gosh darn it how is Bozo still her lawyer?Can you really get it on with your lawyer in his florida office,and it not be a conflict of interest,The little drop of respect I had for Geraldo is lost.I just keep remembering the facebook note Casey sent me Last year,and the confusing way it was worded-”Your more crazy then they think I am ,One day mabey you will be thought of as a murderer”WTF,it was 11:30 pm mabey it was Cindy,And cindy knows it was an accident.
P.S I have read Tarot cards for more then 15 years and have followed the case from the start,I wanted you to know this Blink.If you ever wanna hand per say…..