Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad, Baez and Baden Can’t Read

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 Discovery Review Part I

Orlando, FL– In the last 2 weeks in the case against infamous tot-mom Casey Anthony, The defense appears to be in an all out media blitz to support their recent motions for dismissal. Most legal analysts feel they have  missed the deadline for such tactics, and that could very well be the reason for the affront on public opinion recently.

The blinkoncrime.com editors have been scouring the recent discovery release. 

There are some very compelling facts the Spin Twins de Baez have conveniently overlooked.

The Duct Tape

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Reported exclusively  at blinkoncrime.com last June, the Henkel Duck tape industrial grade was located on the skull of Caylee Marie, the  gas can and the shed at the Anthony residence. Today, WFTV after rifiling through some old footage, reminds us what we already knew.

Caylee Tape

(Editors note: Say what you will about Kathy Belich, that Dom Casey cheat sheet with her picture and “disseminating hatred towards the family” remark had her in that news room with a whip and a hot iron all day until they found it– I don’t blame her.)

Yesterday at Brad Conway’s client driven press conference, he specifically referenced there are no fingerprints on the duct tape. I heard it again this morning by Linda Kenney Baden.

Brad Conway

Let’s break this down folks, shall we?

On NO document, that we have seen, does it state anywhere that there are no prints on that duct tape. Specifically, I am referring to FBI Evidence ID Q62, Q63 and Q64.

In fairness to the defense, with a combined experience mean of 2o years in the “expert” fields, less Jose “josebgood@yahoo.com” Baezs’ token 3 years, I can see how such academics could come to that conclusion for the time being.Jose

Within the response to Kenney Baden’s discovery request from the FBI, this statement appears:

THE FBI DID NOT RECEIVE LATENT LIFTS IN THIS CASE

It does not say “latent impressions”, which in the forensic “speak” means all friction ridge detail images.

Seriously? With a woman’s very life hanging in the balance we are expected to believe such a panel does not know the difference between a latent lift and a friction ridge image in 2009? Not to be glib, but as a practical matter, as a layperson, just imagine when your scotch tape slips off the cutter and you stand there for 10 minutes trying to thread it again with your fingernail. If that did not immediately furrow your brow, you will be wrapping all the christmas presents this year.

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 These assertions by the defense team are nothing more than an attempt to double dare the State to open their Kimono. Insert euphamisms at will. 

As a matter of fact, a close look at the examination protocol used by the FBI,  tells a very, very different story. 

Tape Q62, Q63, Q64 is originally presented  NOT to be tested for DNA. Who gets it first? Latent Print U and Chem. Why is this important? Because the two work together when we are talking about applying chemically based “lifting” techniques such as sticky powder, for example.  

Yes, before you ask, this is where the heart sticker residue is seen by LPU on the NON ADHESIVE side prior to it’s own testing procedures. That residue is consumed and no longer visible in this phase. You can assume LPU saw that image under ALS, not visible to the evidence collection unit or ECU. 

Occurring simultaneously, lets also assume a conscious decision is made to procure the latent images on the adhesive side of Q63, even at the risk of the consumption or ruin of residue of the alleged heart sticker that everyone already knew would not yield DNA. 

Who thinks there are no other digital originals of the duct tape, bearing the sticker residue from the Medical Examiners Officer or CSI in the field? While I agree the residue chemistry itself may have been probative, this was  not the woopsie the defense would lead you to believe.

LPU was assigned to do visual oversight when the Trace evidence unit, or TEU receives the samples next.  Ms. Fontaine has a T shirt she wears under her lab coat for just such an occasion.

It reads: DONT BE SWABBIN ON MY PRINT on the front, on the back it reads: I’LL JUST WAIT TO BE SURE.

Is that so that their friction ridge was not destroyed? OF COURSE.

Next stop The Questioned Documents Unit, or QDU. For those unfamiliar, this is another “ARod” Jose Baez so astutely coined the analogy when referring to Dr. Neal Haskell being on the State’s expert list.  This is where the mysterious “contamination” occurs. Brad Conway went as far as to say yesterday that this was a mysteryperson, a possible unsub if you will. Ms. Baden said it could be an alternative culprit. Yeesh.

It is clearly stated in the report that CONWAY released, that the ID from the partial profile, is Lorie Gottesman, of the QDU.

I am quite sure Ms. Gottesman has an alibis for June 16th. Perhaps this is a good thing as I hear Ms. Gottesman is well versed in expert testimony.

Ppppssst. There are 2 other samples of the duct tape, all 3 latent results have not been released except to say that George, Lee and Cindy have been excluded.

Wouldn’t you have to have a control latent to compare them to in order to exclude  A N Y O N E?

Their ARE prints, folks. Eazy Peazy.

While we are on the subject of the tape, textile fibers WERE recovered from Q62 and Q64 and Q66 (house duct tape) and preserved for future testing.

It was not true to say there was no transfer evidence whatsoever, how would they know when those tests have not either been preformed or the results completed? Ms. Baden feels the public is being misled?

I would offer the misleading is being orchestrated by misinterpretation.

The decision was made to consider testing the tape for DNA after an initial pre-amplified DNA result came back from Baby Caylees tibia (I apologize for the graphic).

To be continued, blinkoncrime.com

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287 Comments

  1. stocirpa says:

    Anyone closely attuned to the Casey Anthony case should find the following two articles that appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle on 12/14/04 regarding the death penalty conviction of Scott Peterson to be of great interest. The primary purpose of these articles was to provide the reader with insight into the reasons why the jurors in the Peterson case found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt – despite his protestations of innocence and despite the lack of forensic evidence directly linking him to this crime. I can assure you that you will be amazed at how many significant aspects of the Anthony case are eerily reminiscent of those of the Peterson case.

    Peterson Jury: Death – The Jurors: How they decided he should die.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…2/14/MNGL7ABKFJ1.DTL

    Peterson Jury: Death – The Decision. Autopsy photos a reminder of brutal murders.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…2/14/MNGL7ABKFL1.DTL

  2. Kleat says:

    Thanks, Olive– heard 1st on the net at Blink thanks to you! (at least the story isn’t on the Orlando MSM sites).

    We were told to expect that one– how can this help Ms. Lyon’s good reputation? First, she has to rely on Baez and crew to fill her in on Florida law subtleties for even the basics of the usual defense motions, then because these motions should have been filed way back when there was little evidence, no body even, Ms. Lyon has to play babysitter and do it ‘better late than never’ as part of her DP qualified work. (didn’t need a DP lawyer to do this last year– and remember, Baez specifically did NOT attempt to apply for ‘speedy trial’ when there was so little collected evidence and no body). He should have been on that and got her off before the body was ever revealed while he had the chance, even if it didn’t fly, he could have at least filed for it– but he had the golden egg goose under his wing.

  3. dee says:

    Kleat, sorry I am a glutton for punishment I guess, why do I do these things?

    stocirpa, I think about the Peterson case and the evidence in that mostly circumstantial (spelling?) the jury hung his butt, it is all about common sense in this case with CA no one and I mean NO ONE is fooled…

    all the tricks from the Bozo Scheme Team is just that TRICKS…who’s buying a ticket to their circus not the General Public that is proof positive.

  4. Kleat says:

    BTW, anyone notice the number of grandmothers who have posted here? The defense should pay attention, if it goes to seat a jury. People say that Cindy’s actions are the ‘grandmother thing’ coming out… I beg to differ… Casey does NOT want a grandmother on the jury!!!

  5. dee says:

    GR lost all my faith the day he was out in the middle of a hurricane and got his a$$ knocked over!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FziScjyf4Ic

  6. dee says:

    oh and when Ronald Cummings almost kicked his A$$

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbxuO5t84zo

  7. dee says:

    he (GR) is too extreme for me and nothing he reports means squat to me it is all for show

  8. Titch says:

    Thanks for the response, Blink. I didn’t know if the defense only asked for a list of TES volunteers, or if they asked for a list of “all” volunteers that were put together in organized searches. I know the defense concentrated on TES, again just wasn’t sure it was only TES volunteers they asked for. Many thanks – keep up the great work. I check your site frequently throughout the week. You seem to get info quicker than the mainstream media does! Have a great day, Blink!

  9. Wendy says:

    Blink,

    I found a 3rd picture that has the Henkel tape logo on it, and it’s definitely something that the Anthony’s own. I’m not sure if I should tell anyone? Or who would I tell? Is it that big of a deal, or should I just leave it and let someone else maybe find it eventually??
    Post here, I will keep it private until I read it, a few folks have found some more and they have been submitted appropriately, I’ll let you know if they have it.
    B

  10. ada says:

    I remember when Geraldo said if OJ was found not guilty he would quit reporting the news. Not a man of his word or maybe what he’s doing now is not reporting.

    Also does anyone know if it was a syringe found in the Gatorade bottle and did Casey do something to Caylee using that syringe?

  11. dee says:

    MsE’ maybe they are related to the Simpson’s I am waiting for the TV cartoon, I am sure it is a comin’

  12. Kleat says:

    Anyone think that Cindy is, and has been from ‘day one’, mired in the CSI effect and her own version of 100% proof logic? Even by her own admission, she waited for 100% proof before believing Caylee was not alive, there was still hope– but what does the continued search for the live baby ‘this’ year do to her credibility and 100% theory. What percent is Cindy taking as the chances of the baby she cremated by HER decision, not Casey’s (or was that statement by Casey a defense strategy)? Dr. G. ever give any stats on the chances that this was not the Anthony baby? It can’t be 100%– has to be ‘hope numbers’ in there somewhere that Cindy decided she must believe in again this spring.

  13. Titch says:

    Suz – Your analogy made me laugh. I love your posts. Like I said…been reading on here for some months and agree with your standpoint.

    silverspnr – I think you took my post #189 entirely wrong. I’m not making a comparison between the Duck tape & the searchers, I’m making a comparison between “media videos” being used as evidence to either support the prosecution or conversely the defense. I asked Blink innocently b/c I have no idea the legalities of the rulings in such a case as this. I’ve read just about every document that’s come out regarding this case b/c it sickens me to no end. I saw how the judge answered the defense’s request. I never even brought “TES” into this until Blink responded to me. I wasn’t referring to TES in the least. Again, to be clear, my post wan’t meant to be taken as a comparison between searchers and Henkel tape being used to hang up posters. I don’t even understand how you got confused by my post:) I should have been more precise and to the point. Go easy sugar, I don;t post here often…but I follow frequently. Trust me, I respect everyone here – hell, it’s apparent everybody cares about justice for Caylee. That’s the biggest reason I’m drawn to this site.

  14. melissa says:

    SILVER AND MAURA–welcome home! I’ve (we’ve) been missing you guys. Of course you see Blink has been taking wonderful care of us and feeding us Cream of Baez in a rather large bowl and we are lapping it up! I was worried that the nasty flu bug might have gotten ya’ll but nice to see you are okay. Happy posting!

  15. SuzeeB says:

    Kleat #212

    Cindy said they had a second autopsy done. I guess that was junk science too.

  16. Randie says:

    SuzeeB,

    Hey I forgot about the second autopsy. Interesting point, considering, Cindy is now somehow claiming that the child she had the funeral for and has ashes for is now not her grandaughter,(paraphrased).

    What a joke.

  17. Kleat says:

    Silver, welcome back!! Couldn’t there be a new hybrid variety of maggot, that eats cheeze (sorry wpgmouse), thrives on high salt content therefore low moisture content chewy stringy varieties of white or yellow cheeze/cheeze like substitutes, and high sodium prepared meats, msg or non msg variety… and thick or thin crusts?

    We are talking “junk food science” here– the kind the defense orders!!

  18. georgiamom says:

    Suz, re #184(at the moment that’s the number) I don’t know how to interpret the evidence numbers on that inventory. Perhaps the numbers are added as items are submitted to FBI for analysis and if we would see the list in another month, there would be more numbers on there. I assume there is at least an initial evaluation done by LE as to evidentiary value before submitting and assigning a Q number.

    On reviewing that document, did you ever notice that 9 brushes and combs were collected from the top of the master bathroom toilet??? Who owns 9 brushes and combs, for crying out loud? It’s listed on page 3592, item #60. None of those have been submitted, either. At least not that we can tell from that inventory. I’m headed to the bathroom to see how many brushes and combs I can balance on the throne. BBL

  19. Wendy says:

    Here is the (I think) 3rd picture at this point, with the Henkel logo. This seems similar to the one Kathi found on Friday, but it’s not the exact same one, that’s why I thought it might be of some interest, because I suppose the more they have, the better it is.

    The one from the other day is a missing poster made from a piece of paper (notebook size)…. and this one is an actual poster board type missing sign.

    Here is the link, let me know if it can be of any help, or if the link didn’t come across right or something. TIA

    http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/19724912/detail.html

  20. cindeefromwisconsin says:

    silvr…I am so glad you brought up the maggots and insects. Maggots would not eat on a pizza..I thought about that from day one what does the maggots testing show. Is it possible to pull Caylee’s DNA from the insects…(just seems wrong to mention them in the same sentence as Caylee)

  21. Randie says:

    #198 Olive,

    I can’t find anything on that. Please help. Do you have a link or something.

    :)

  22. ada says:

    Blink, is there something “hinky” going on here in the past couple of days here? I swear I’m getting dizzy.

    Clue please ada, not following and have itchy allergy eyes, lol
    B

  23. dee says:

    second autopsy what a joke I guess they were “REACHING”

  24. ada says:

    Is this “chat room” spinning?

  25. suz says:

    Good point re: the evidence numbers, Georgiamom. I am sure we have a lag in what has been submitted where.

    Titch, xxx ooo!

  26. Debidoll129 says:

    39 days missing…Has anyone else noticed that most all of the documents released show the date of 6/9/08 as the day Caylee went missing…which is the ORIGINAL date that George, Cindy amd Lee believed that Caylee was missing..and filed the missing person report for that date..I can not help but wonder if by sticking to this original date will the A’s have to also explain was the date was wrong? Rarely is the at of 6/16/08 use!

  27. ada says:

    Sorry about the itchy eyes. I may have read this here. Do you think that the strategy after the duct tape fiasco is that the defense is going to try to spin this to blame one of the volunteers? I just get that feeling.

    I know this is going to sound grossly unprofessional, blame the allergies if you will-

    I had a dream last night that I was “blind driving” around the recently foreclosed homes of scam artists, and I came upon one that appeared as though there were things bulging out of the closed garage door. You know, looked like dents outward from being so full.

    So like in any good dream, I use my garage door opener link, it opens slowly, and a wave of Henkel duct tape rolls comes gushing out like a tidal wave. Atop the shiny and heat resistant to 200 degrees mass was Dennis Milstead and George Anthony riding in the Caylee Marie. They are screaming back and forth at each other “I though you said you got them all.”

    B

  28. Debidoll129 says:

    Post # 216..So why do you think no one has askd Cindy..who’s child did she have cremated? And was she going to return the ashes to the loved ones? Or just keep them? She does not seem to be having a problem about saying Caylee might be in aother country!

  29. Todd in Tulsa says:

    In regards to Cindy’s claim that Caylee’s possibly alive and in Puerto Rico with the always well-paid by Casey, nanny. If she says Caylee’s still alive, and we are to take her somewhat-serious, then I think Cindy needs to be charged with possible murder. Who did she have cremated then?!?

  30. Midwest MOM says:

    I cant help thinking that finding the video’s with the duct tape on the posters is going to add a lot of confusion. If the anthonys did not hang up all of the posters themselves, then that would add a lot of fingerprints of people not relevant to the case..

    Im with ada on this one..I am a little dizzy myself, the tape of the anthonys is not a same match as found on caylee? is that correct? they are dissimilar? then how is matching the tape on the posters to the anthony’s going help. SEE I told you I am confused.

    R Grund gave me the heebie geebies, I didn’t pay much attention to him until 4 days ago-there was no way I could even force myself to listen to his audio!

  31. cindeefromwisconsin says:

    #226…OMG Blink you poor thing. (Hilarious) but you need your sleep.

    Now that we have been discussing knowing there are Casey’s prints on the tape but were just waiting for that to be released. I am going to guess GA and CA know too. Lets say they didn’t know until this week end like the rest of us. Can you possibley imagine the heaviness in their chest for the 1 fleeting second their minds actually said….”She did it”

    I personally believe we witnessed that fleeting second at the 8/14 jail visit, well, Cindy anyway.
    B

  32. ada says:

    Midwest MOM,

    what I was dizzy about was how this duct tape video was going to become palatable for the defense strategy. There is no doubt that all the Henckle duct tape came from the Anthonys. I believe that the tape at the scene was the same as on the gas can and posters. It had just undergone deterioration from the elements. If the volunteers used the tape, Baez can ask those people who provided the Henckel duct tape to them. I don’t think that would be any more confusing than the defense request for all the TES volunteers information.

    I also think that throwing R Grund under the bus is unnecessary. The truth never requires any spin or explanation.

  33. Kleat says:

    Kleat, it would be my sincere pleasure. Please let me know your timeline so I can make sure the appropriate copy works.

    B

  34. Sheri says:

    Blink,
    Can you tell me why all the items listed as taken from home on 12/08 via warrant have 3/19/09 date marked on bottom of page?
    Why knife and bags (page 282) marked as investigation and not evidence?
    Sheri Galveston Tx

    Because there are different release rules if something is part of the ongoing investiation. The March date could be the release date, but it is also Casey’s birthday
    B

  35. Sheri says:

    Forgot to ask… if there are dos and donts here, please someone let me know, you guys have a really respectable site.. don’t want to step on toes or break any rules.. thanks Sheri Galveston

  36. Kleat says:

    Midwest Mom, I don’t think the Henkel’s special tape on the posters will add confusion regarding other people’s handling of the posters, not at all– that is of course, to be expected. What might be argued is that the supply of tape that was used to get those posters up and out quickly, was something grabbed that was already in the Anthony household. And THAT makes it consistent with the brand and it’s rarity compared to volumes of other types of general use ‘duct’ type tapes, or packing tapes, or masking tape, or staplers, any of which could have also been used to get the posters up and in view quickly.

    This might have more inflammatory than probative value (just surmising here, I’m not a lawyer) because put that poster of the baby up with it’s duct tape attached– IF FOR EXAMPLE, a fingerprint and chemical/physical connection that authenticates the tape, its label, and also connects it to an Anthony volunteer, if not an Anthony themselves, and then juxtapose that image of the baby’s face with the baby’s skull with the same duct tape and it’s labels– that would be extremely powerful visually. Very powerful if the section of tape has the label on it– the label is there not for advertising on the product, but as a notice to end users that it meets certain use conditions and so they can’t apply the wrong roll to the wrong job.

  37. Gina says:

    Dominic Casey: Why Aren’t I on Your “Hit List” | Halifax Area News …5 days ago – MrNews Productions is an audio / video company… that has now branched off into the internet with the introduction of http://www.HalifaxAreaNewsWatch.com.
    http://www.halifaxareanewswatch.com/dominic-casey-why-arent-i-on-your-hit-list/ – Cached – Similar
    **********************************************

    Good article…hope it’s ok to post a link..had a couple of tidbits I wasn’t aware of like the claim Georgle planned to blow Casey away then himself.

    I can confirm the part about the gun and George’s plans, it is true.
    B

  38. suz says:

    Midwest MOM, I guess the defense could say: What if the real killer removed strips of the duct tape (there were three strips from 7″ to 9″ IIRC) from the caylee posters and cruelly either used them to kill the child or simply placed them on the corpse—perhaps as a message to casey for having squealed to the cops, and a warning that she better not squeal any further or else the rest of her family would get it too. And it just so happened that those pieces had Casey’s prints on them from some time that she used the tape around the house in some innocent and helpful fashion, being a good daughter and all that.

    It’s quite a stretch, but they could argue that it accounts for why tape pieces were used (i.e., because the killer found the pieces on posters) instead of wrapping the tape all the way around the head (which the killer could not do, as he or she did not have a whole roll of tape).

    Are they allowed to get the jurors drunk first?

  39. peggy says:

    Blink-

    Was E Fontiane the only person who claimed she saw the alleged heart shaped residue? And, if you are correct that it was a conscious decision to dust why didn’t she properly document the alleged residue?

    According the FBI reports and FBI communication log E Fontaine received the duct tape on Dec 13th.

    The communication log also shows they asked FBI field agents and EDU if they saw the heart shaped residue, they reported they saw nothing and have no photo’s of heart shaped residue on the duct tape. LG in the FBI’s QDU department was given the task of looking for any heart shaped residue or any evidence there was a sticker on the duct tape
    (this occurred after EF says she ‘lost it’ b/c she dusted)…that test also yielded negative results, nothing was found.I then checked the ME report(duct tape arrived on Dec 11 and was sent to the FBI lab on Dec 12th) and there’s no mention of any heart shaped residue. I also looked at LE reports(crime scene) and once again there’s no mention of any heart shaped residue.

    We also know that it was E Fontaine that did the exam eliminating George ,Cindy and Lee’s fingerprints from the duct tape.

    Other than the fact that the tape had “black powder” on it, what makes you certain that “dusting” was the test that destroyed the residue? Im not suggesting its not impossible that nobody else saw the residue, considering they received a search warrant in which they seized heart stickers, I have to think it was observed.

    Personally, I am ok with the sticker/reside out. It was either Casey’s guilt or her framing someone anyway, imo.
    B

  40. peggy says:

    One more thing-

    When looking through the documents I noticed that documents 5581-5582 which is E Fontaines report eliminating G,C and L’s fingerprints…then look at the very next set of documents (5583-5584) which is LG’s duct tape examination.

    The first set was released back in March of 2009 but the second was just released (Sept 2009) though they happened just days apart back in December…why the long wait? Could this offer an explanation about the defenses endless Motions to compel? Was the state deliberately holding back certain information? Is this JB’s spoliation accusation against the SAO?

    Perhaps JB and Co had these results…but wouldn’t you think if that were the case they would have ‘released’ this information to the public months ago?

    One thing to keep an open mind in, is that some evidence went through a barrage of tests that require different phases.
    Also the PIO releases the discovery, not the SA’s. No, I dont suspect Jose et al would ever release inculpatory evidence against his client, he would be disbarred.
    B

  41. Randie says:

    Blink we know you don’t reveal your sources. And I wouldn’t ask you to. But, being able to “confirm” Georg’s plan? Wow! Is there anything you can tell us laymen about the fact that this is true. This is all new to me……but, then again I usually find myself a step or two behind you all.

    :)

    ;)

    Sorry friend, I cannot.
    B

  42. ProvokingPoirot says:

    TO PP:

    Sometimes it is best to allow people to reveal themselves to you. That way you know the size of their shadow.
    Your a Good Lady, many thanks.
    B

  43. Titch says:

    Blink & Ada – Re #226…That’s the exact reason I asked Blink about the legalities of the video use. I would hope it would be able to be used, but I fear for the simple reason that “if” the Anthony’s weren’t the “only” ones to use the Henkel tape, could this be a way for the defense to throw a new spin on things? I worry that maybe some of the volunteers used the same tape. I hope somebody has proof that the Henkel tape used on Caylee “only” came from the Anthony’s. This was the reason for my original question, sorry if I confused you Blink. I don’t live in Florida, I have no idea if some of the searchers also helped put up posters…I can only surmise that they “may” have. So, I guess a better question I could have asked you, Blink – Can the defense discredit some of the searchers that helped put up posters (if they did or not, just being hypothetical) using that same Henkel tape that belonged to the Anthony’s? I wonder if they could legally do something like that. I think laws should be in place protecting the volunteers, but apparently there aren’t. This worries me. I am a volunteer for our local visiting nurses assoc and I can tell you if they started ripping apart volunteers where I live, it would make people not want to be involved as much. I should have thought my original question through before I posted, then maybe it wouldn;t have confused so many. Very very sorry…only want to help participate and share insight/opinions.

    I’ve always been a community service kind of gal, but Caylee’s case has made me want to learn so much more…like how to spot certain characteristics in people like Casey and stear my boys away from them. It worries me that some people cater to their children, especially girls that have children, and some parents live in NeverNeverLand like Cindy. It’s one thing to support your children in their decisions, but it’s quite another to feed into their psychosis. I worry b/c I feel like the Anthony’s are posting on various boards saying stupid stuff and igging people on so they can use those sites against the prosecution.

    I personally want to know more about the “embarassing” pictures that Casey had on the computer. On another site, I’ve posted my belief that she was an amateur b/c one of the pics really looks like her. I wonder if the prosecution will let us know one way or the other if she was involved in amateur porn…or something like it. Maybe it has nothing to do with Caylee’s death so they won’t let us know? I kind of think it could show what her priorities were if that happens to be true…maybe finally drive it home with Cindy if you kwim.

  44. Titch says:

    Kleat, Your #235 pretty much answers the beginning of my #238…so thank you!

  45. Bees Knees says:

    I don’t know much about forensics but what do you all think about the shape of Caylee in a fetal position imprinted inside Casey’s trunk? From what I can gather it may never make it into evidence because any traceable body fluids had already been scrubbed off by Mrs. Clean before the cops ever showed up. Is it accurate to say you can’t put a dead body in the fetal position? Is it true that a body has to put it’s self into that position, and if that’s all true can we safely guess Casey locked a live Caylee up in that trunk and she died there? Or, maybe just that she slept in the trunk so often it created that silhouette there but had nothing to do with her actual death.

  46. Randie says:

    #239 I can deal with that Blink. Doesn’t hurt to ask. ;)

    Does anyone out there know anything about scratches inside as well as outside Casey’s car???

    Inside is new to me.

  47. peggy says:

    #144

    ProvokingPoirot,

    Mea Culpa! I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that she’d only lied at that point, I was only saying that that particular instance was the only one I remember her actually saying “I lied”.

    I apologize for any confusion,
    Peggy

  48. ProvokingPoirot says:

    Well thank you so much for that link Gina….it sums it up for ME!!!! I would consider it an honor to be on that list!!
    http://www.halifaxareanewswatch.com/dominic-casey-why-arent-i-on-your-hit-list/

    I love this article and I love the chance to redeem myself for not being the only person who feels this way! I feel reborn! I was thinking I was a horrible, horrible person for not abiding by my “innocent until proven guilty” belief…I still believe that, but only to an extent and left to a jury of peers when the evidence becomes transparent and crystalline, translucent and translucid. Thank you Blink, Maura, silverspn, Kleat, RedRanger, dee, westsidehudson, cindeefromwisconsin, dddeerma, Granmomma, Chica, Gypsy DD, Suz, todd in tulsa, and oh so sweet Keefer, funny, yes, but not as bad as you think. (according to Blink)…so many wonderful people, brought together by little Caylee…Lord, I forgot all the names but I love you all so much for the thoughts you provoke in me.

    My personal favorite:

    “Dominic Casey doesn’t talk about that… nor do the Anthony’s.

    But, that was George’s little plan.

    Oh yeah… before I forget… remember George’s little pill-popping suicide attempt at a hotel on Ridgewood Avenue in Daytona Beach last spring.

    They tracked him down by using cell phone pings. He thought he was on “Dialing for Dollars…” reaching out, touching people telling them he couldn’t take it anymore.

    Now, George is a former law enforcement officer in Ohio… and Daytona Beach Police Chief Mike Chitwood did the right thing when they found where George was staying.

    Chief Chitwood went to the hotel… talked to him… and drove him to Halifax in an unmarked police car.

    Damn…. I have a lot of respect for Chief Chitwood. He is the best Chief the city has had in the past generation. But, I degress…

    After George was admitted to the Halfiax Mental Health unit on the state’s Baker Act… my highly – placed sources told me that George told a nurse he didn’t take any of the pills missing from the bottles.

    It was an attention getter…

    The biggest actor in this entire saga is Casey Anthony. This story has everything… sex…. lies… video tape… and Casey Anthony who “bangs like a screen door in a hurricane!!”

  49. Kleat says:

    Bees Knees, I’d like to know more about how the fluids would gather, deposit, and how in that humid trunk, humid hot weather, dark trunk, what moulds would grow and where the major deposits would be. Moulds produce colour producing compounds, that stain and are difficult to remove. With a dark carpet, the Anthony’s may not have known to scrub with bleaches that might remove a fungal or mould staining that they could not see in the first place. (I recall Cindy talked about the stain-in-trunk issue, and she said she didn’t have ALS (alternate light sources etc– ie: UV) and she nor George would clean, test the ‘cleaned’ areas to see if they removed any stains in daylight, in UV, especially when they did not expect this fungal staining.

    First thought of a ‘stain’ is the liquid itself (we know it’s blood and/or decomp) or other spills in a trunk unrelated to the crimescene– one does not necessarily know how a secondary mould infection/build up with it’s own ‘tidelines’ of humidity/condensation but that doesn’t mean this isn’t ‘real’, easily proven, explained and presented to a jury.

    It’s not MAGIC — or a Virgin Mary vision on a cheeze sandwich or pizza.

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