Morgan Harrington Case: Separating Fact From Fiction From Facebook Part II
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Charlottesville, VA– Just passing the month mark, the disappearance of Morgan Harrington from the John Paul Jones Area located on the UVA campus, leaves us with more questions than answers. Part II
The Faces of Her Facebook
Help Find Morgan Harrington was developed by a few concerned individuals interested in spreading the word about Morgan’s disappearance and boasts over 30,000 members. Not all posts are welcome.
In particular, a member by the name of Nelson Kane was recently banned for posting very detailed hypothesis scenarios that sparked a firestorm of interest in the self-appointed athlete scout. His posts were deleted at the request of Law Enforcement who admit tasking two officers with monitoring the web for such activity in Morgan’s case.
Additionally, Mr. Kane reached out to several individuals on facebook as well as the Harrington family’s findmorgan.com site in attempts to speak to the family directly and request an interview. The Harrington’s were made aware of the concern for such requests by sources close to the investigation.
He has recently changed his facebook drastically. 
Mr. Kane, a member of the family owning the longtime furniture store of the same name in Charlottesville is also a UVA alumni and season ticket holder. In addition to UVA, Kane also claims to have attended Virginia Tech on many of his many social networking profiles. He also fancies himself as somewhat of a Rock band critic.
On his site, nkscouting.com which he has maintained 
since 2001, Kane chronicles his trips to scout mostly High School basketball and football athletes. In an effort to make his site more interesting (his words) he details the travel experience, routes, times and in some cases photos of his visits to High Schools mostly within a few hours driving distance.
Very early on in Morgan’s case, blinkoncrime.com explored the idea that perhaps the double murder of VT freshmen David Metzler and Heidi Childs on August 27th should be investigated as a possible link to Morgan’s case simply because they attend the school and Morgan and Heidi bare a remarkable resemblance to one another.
As far as very odd coincidences go, the location of Nelson Kane’s scouting foray the evening of the August 28th could not be more relevant.
Kane scouted the game at Jefferson Forest High School. The very 
School Heidi Childs graduated from a year earlier. Unlike most of Kane’s other journal entries of his athlete accolades, there is no mention of his travel experience to or from Forest High School so it is unclear where he left from, when he got there, or when he returned home.
This is in no way an accusation that Mr. Kane had any involvement whatsoever in such a heinous crime, of course, but given his proclivities for leaving at all hours of the day and night his keen attention to travel detail and familiarity with the area: Perhaps he saw someone or something amiss in his trip that could help investigators.
On Saturday October 17th, Kane scouts a game, listens to the UVA football game on his way home and is home in plenty of time to make the concert.
Blink how do you know he was at the concert you ask? I do not. I do know he knows alot about security at the JPJ Arena, how to navigate the different lots near Uhall, and of course that there are blue portable lavatories next to Lanigan Field. His posts from the Charlottesville Daily Progress below:
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I’m just going to throw some things out there that I have been pondering.
Why did Morgan call her Dad upon arrival to pick up her friends in Harrisonburg–but not when she arrived at the concert? Since I am a parent–I’d want to know that my daughter had arrived at her destination safely. Morgan was only half way there when her dad last talked with her.
To me, it’s almost as if, someone wanted it to appear that MH had made it to the arena–by throwing her purse and cell phone out–right there in the parking lot. What if no one actually saw Morgan that night at the Metallica concert? I’m sure there were many blondes dressed in black at the concert.
It’s just all so very odd. Her parents didn’t even realize at first that her car was driven to Charlottsville. Since Morgan was so excited to attend, it is all just too weird that she even finds herself outside of the arena, at just about the time Metallica took center stage.
I’m really starting to think that MH never made it to JPJ at all. Obviously, her friends did–and they made certain to leave traces–in the way of Morgans purse and cell phone to make everyone believe that she disappeared from there. I just don’t know. I hope the LE’s are really questioning her friends.
Blink, Do you know, and if so, will you please tell me the initial’s of SS’s boyfriend.
Thank you.
I do know the ID of the male companion in question and I have chosen not to release it at this time. Subject to change as appropriate.
B
LE is confident she was hitchhiking. Keep in mind, they have released very, very little information. This says to me that they have received several collaborating stories about the hh’ing. How many stories will make LE “confident”, three, four maybe? Let’s say (for illustration purposes only) they have (1) text message saying “hitching home” (2) the bb players saying “she told us she was going to get a ride” (3) an eyewitness, or maybe two, on the bridge saying they saw her with her thumb out, and for good measure, let’s throw in there the questionable 8:48 call to her friends (4) “finding another way home”.
That would make me fairly confident she hitched. Unless we know MH personally we cannot presume that she would, or would not, make certain choices. Yes, it sounds ridiculously dangerous to even consider hitchhiking…we don’t want to believe that a beautiful, smart woman would do that but people do make unsafe choices. I will say, I am intrigued by the theory that possibly a person in uniform stopped to give her a lift.
I think the release of that information (the confidence in hitchhiking and the request for witnesses that might have seen her enter a car) was a very calculated disclosure of information on LE’s part. Tying up some evidence possibly?
I think your making alot of assumptions. What if they have one witness that said she hitched, and said witness is credible because they admit she was in the vehicle?
If there were 4-5 witnesses stating she hitched, and that info was not released but one month into this investigation we would be having an entirely different conversation.
I stand by my opinion that Morgan Harrington did not hitch a ride, LE was told that purposelly.
B
B- Please do NOT post this, please.
I had posted about this guy and questioned why nobody has every wondered about him…He has an over kill of interest in Morgan….IMO. He is an EMT and a PT security right there at the arena….Likes attention, too. He’s also the one who said he noticed Morgan because she had “shiny hair”. And, he was on a video game website where someone posted that Wayne like to drink….hmmm.
RE:”VELEZ-MITCHELL: … But joining me on the phone is Wayne Townsend. He believes he saw Morgan at the Metallica concert Saturday night. Now, this is a Facebook page Wayne created to help spread the word about Morgan`s disappearance.
Wayne, tell us what you saw Saturday night. Did anything stand out to you at all?
WAYNE TOWNSEND, WITNESS (via phone): Well, when I pulled up the news Monday morning after hearing about Morgan`s case, after seeing her picture and the description of what she was wearing, it just kind of stuck a bell in the back of my head. And I said, you know, I do remember seeing a girl that matched that description. However, the only thing that…
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait.
TOWNSEND: The only place that I can actually describe the location in the arena, cause it was, you know, very crowded throughout the whole area.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Inside or outside? Was she outside?
TOWNSEND: She was inside on the — as you call it, the upper corridor, where all the vendors are and where they serve all the beers and the I.D. check.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Was she alone?
TOWNSEND: I couldn`t tell if she was alone, because there was so many people, and it was kind of like a passing by kind of thing.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: But she says she went out to go to the bathroom and couldn`t get back in. Was this she after she went into the bathroom or would this be something inside the stadium?
TOWNSEND: This was going to be inside the stadium is where I can remember seeing — seeing her.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Whew, wow, but she didn`t seem in any kind of anxiety?
TOWNSEND: You know, I mean, we were all kind of, sort of pushed through and kind of like to get where we were going. I mean, everyone kind of — had a bit of anxiety to them, you know, trying to push through. And kind of get to whatever part of the arena that they were trying to get to.”
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/20/ijvm.01.html
620 J2K Thank you for the info.Still puzzled by the man with no name with the girls.
When do we see examples of unidentified persons involved in a missing person case when they are not underage?I can’t think of any.
This is a quote from Lt. Joe Rader during the second press conference on October 21 in regards to Morgan’s car. (advance to 13:30)
http://www.nbc29.com/global/Category.asp?C=175568&clipId=4231804&autostart=true
He states: “Her car is not an issue as far as part of the investigation. The relevancy of the car is the transportation from Virginia Tech to James Madison University. The relevancy of the car is not a relevancy of her being missing because the two are not associated in this particular investigation.”
Huh? Did they amend the locations at a later date and I missed the update? This implies that she did not ride in her car from JMU to Charlottesville. Correct me if I’m wrong. Please.
Blink, going back a few comments to your talk about the car, you said: “What if the car was completely devoid of fingerprints anywhere? What would that contribute to an investigation?”
I think that would add a lot to the mix. If the car had supposedly been driven to the show with 4 people in it, and driven home with no assumption of any foul play, you would expect to find normal fingerprints in it. If it was wiped clean that would show a definite cover-up by the “friends”.
So Dr. Harrington had no idea that Morgan’s car was the one that was driven to JPJ. I am guessing that the arrangements were he would provide the tickets but they were suppossed to use someone elses car to get to the arena. Is it known who was supposed to have driven them to the concert, and why did they feel they had to lie about this to the Harringtons? Makes me think they might know more about that night that they are not telling.
ie. the boyfriend’s name.
The information about his name does exist on the internet if you use your common sense and do a little bit of research.
Sue, be careful, I say respectfully. That’s a broad statement with nothing to back it up, although I know your more than capable- yes?
B
Sorry! I did not mean to imply that the poster asking about his name was not using their common sense!
Forgive me if it sounded that way. I was just being brief.
in response to comments by
counselor4you
Head is spinning with this info about the EMT and part-time JPJ security
guy “WT”.
Anyone know:
Was he working that night?
Was he working inside, outside or both?
As an EMT did he treat Morgan’s alleged facial wound?
Any connections to him and Morgan’s circle of “friends”?
On another track, WT claims to have seen her where the beer is sold and ID checks are. Well now, if that can be corroberated and established to the extent that she was “served beer” underage, that would certainly open up a real can of worms. Could create a different angle of speculation as to WT’s possible motive for “going public”.
Could someone shed some light on the DG reference? I’ve read this entire post and maybe I missed it, but I don’t know who that is and what you all are referring to?
Human Remains Found on Liberty Mountain|ABC 13
http://www.wset.com
ABC 13 – Human Remains Found on Liberty Mountain – Campbell County Sheriff Terry Gaddy says a body was found in a shallow grave off Camp Hideaway Road on Liberty Mountain Sunday evening.
I hope and pray this is not Morgan. And I pray for the family this person.
Thanks for posting this. Fwiw, I do not believe it is Morgan.
B
A body was found not far from Charlottsville. Looks like to be of a young female and probably been there 6-8 weeks.
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1109/682665.html
moon-dg-david garner(sp?), he claims he parked next to morgan &friends as they pulled in to the arena , before the show.He says he then saw her friends again after concert as they are getting in car to exit arena after metallica-no morgan.he says before the show as they were getting out of cars to go into arena,he noticed morgan,she was exicted jumped out of the car first,and spoke to his group asking who was the opening band,he has been quoted by commenters trying to ascertain that morgan attended the concert .
“I stand by my opinion that Morgan Harrington did not hitch a ride, LE was told that purposelly.”
B
The more I think about it, the more I’m starting to believe that if LE interviewed the kids attending the concert with MH soon after the case was opened – let’s assume Sunday night -and the official determination made by authorities was that “her car is not an issue as far as part of the investigation,” than that means they, for whatever reason, believed MH’s friends.
Maybe the only male with the group was initially a POI simply because MH was gorgeous and he was the only guy with them. Thus, he was not publicly ID’d at the time – and perhaps nor was textee because he truly was considered irrelevant once his identity was known to the family.
Let’s go with that. The trio stated, “we thought she’d find a ride home.” Now, picture the scene that night. They’re excited about the show, perhaps they had a bit to drink or otherwise – like many of the concert goers – and everyone’s geared up for Metallica to come on. MH indeed tells her friends she’s heading to the bathroom. She takes a spill along the way, gets shaken up; for whatever reason, she ended up outside and was not allowed back in. A friend inside calls her. MH is trying to explain that she can’t get back in. The friend advises her to do this or that, and says this assuming she’ll get back in. But it’s loud. Inside, the friend is straining to hear her, and someone walks on stage/crowd starts going wild. Outside, MH is upset. She fell, she’s locked out, she wants to go home. She tries to convey this, but the call ends in confusion on both ends. She texts a friend not sure what to do, and starts walking around to see if she can find the car or whatever.
This is all conjecture that fits the timeline. But what if she never left the lot? Let me be clear: I think it’s highly unlikely that a predator lured, attacked or abducted her. You know why? Because it’s just not that probable such an opportunistic sex offender was in that lot or driving along an area roadway in that small window of time between when MH left the arena and disappeared from the map.
But. You know who was probably in the lot? An organized nitrous-vendor group, which are ubiquitous in front of big concert venues – in addition to Metallica, they’re certainly at the Bonaroo and All Good festivals (all places MH and her friends have attended). They’re usually in a van of some sort that has a tank inside and several “tour rats” – or, people referred to as the “Nitrous Mafia” on festival forums (they don’t have a very good rep). Regardless, people MH’s age (and older) know to look for them if they want to buy a cheap 10-minute high via a gas-filled balloon for a few bucks. They just look for a small crowd of people around a van, and listen for a hissing sound. Cheap, cheap buzz. When there’s any hint of heat from security, the sellers shoe everyone and their balloons away, close up the doors and roll. MH would definitely be familiar with this – it’s not a “dangerous” scene, per se, but it is illegal, and hazardous in other ways.
If after interacting with the BB players she walked into the less populated Cage Lot and there was still a group selling balloons to a few concert stragglers, she may have thought “why not? good way to kill some time?” This could have easily happened even if she didn’t regularly do drugs – I’ve known people who have “indulged” just once, just because they’re at a show and that’s part of the party. Or, some dude with the nitrous vendors called her over and offered her a balloon because she was pretty and clearly upset. If she did partake, then there’s the possibility she had a bad reaction or “phished out” (passed out on the asphalt from lack of oxygen to the brain).
Who, I ask, *probably* does not have a good-enough reason to lie to the police and stretch out the torturous wait of the Harringtons and others for answers? Her friends.
Who *would* have a reason to cover their tracks, never mentioning a peep about their interaction with her? Roving drug-addicted dealers who basically make a lot of cash selling gas to college kids and other concert goers in parking lots of the major venues that attract them.
Maybe we are looking for strangers – but not the type/motive some are picturing. If she wiped out, whoever was running the operation may have panicked and pulled her into the van in order to take off before security came by (they usually bust up after 15 minutes b/c cops and other security patrol the lots). So they leave her purse that has her ID, and maybe one of the punks was even “savvy” enough to pull out her cell-phone battery; then they unconscionably dumped her somewhere on the way out of town as they headed to their next destination, writing her off as some silly lightweight college kid who almost got them popped. If this is the case, you can bet your ass they’re not coming forward anytime soon. They were probably back in operation the next night at a different venue.
They may have even called in the bridge/hitch-hiking accounts once someone involved got wind of the intense media scrutiny.
So, back to the friends. They figure MH is returning to her seat or is watching the show from elsewhere – where else could she be? Once the concert ends, they can’t find her, and they wait at the car, starting to worry – uh oh… maybe she really couldn’t get back in. The friend who spoke with her thinks back to the call. She hadn’t heard MH well, and wasn’t paying that much attention at the time because the main act was starting, but… did she say something about “home”?
I could see – with no other explanation and no MH – they desperately reasoned that maybe she was saying “she’d find a ride home”? As there was no sign of her and they couldn’t get ahold of her, they may have chosen to believe this and eventually take off. Perhaps Amy, still shocked she hadn’t heard from her by the next morning, even stops back at the lot the next day.
From there, we know what happens for the most part.
It’s possible LE got a tip someone had seen her near the “balloon” van. It would be difficult for LE to find this group, as they’re constantly on the move (and there are hundreds of them all over the East Coast, living/operating under the radar.
I’m just wondering if there has been any extra heat on these types of operations in concert parking lots recently, or if LE is even pursuing this angle.
And if these folks are not responsible, it doesn’t change the fact they were likely in the lot while MH was walking around alone. As someone who has been to her share of shows, I’m telling you: they ‘re always there, and not to see the music.
OMG Blink check this link out, db found liberty mountain in campbell county, va. It just hit the web an hour ago, they even mention MH in this story. Here is some text from the story and the link.
Sheriff Terry Gaddy, Campbell County Sheriff’s Office – “Definitely a suspicious death and we will be working it as a suspicious death. From the clothing that we found too, it may suggest that it might be a younger female.” The story goes on to say that Sheriff Gaddy says the clothing found at the scene is inconsistent with what Harrington was wearing the night she disappeared.
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1109/682665.html
God I hope its not MH, I have been praying for her and her family and that LE catches the d-bag perps if they cannot bring MH home. I hope this isn’t MH, how sad =/ = (…Justice for Morgan, and Justice for all!
wooops sorry I didn’t see post 662 & 663. How did I get 666?? My most unfavorite #…When I went to post there were only 662 comments, thats odd, oh well it is insignificant. The important thing is that I am glad you don’t think its MH Blink. I hope you are right and I will continue to pray for MH and her family until she is found. THank you again for creating this site and forum.
btw j2k I have been to plenty of hard rock and metallica concerts and I have never seen any ballon van! I am not saying these types of things do not exist, but I have never seen one at a concert. I tell you what I have seen while at a baseball game in Miami, scalpers driving around the parking lot in an suv trying to sell tickets. The scalper told me and my friends they can cover more ground in a vehicle while trying to sell.
Could a scalper have possibly been driving around in a van? Hopefully LE has caught something on camera they are not sharing w/the public…Just a thought..
First time poster. I started following the crime forums for little Lindsey Baum, 10 years old, missing from McLeary, Washington. It’s just a few hours from my home, and because it’s close to me and my family I wanted to know if they had found her. That of course broadened into many crime forums and other missing people. My main one is now MH, as I can’t get how someone so vital can vanish so completely! I still follow LB too, almost daily and she has been missing now for five months. I am amazed to find myself on these forums as I hate violence, get nightmares easily, can’t even read mystery novels, and this is definitely not what I could have ever envisioned myself doing-but here I am! I am so impressed by this site- thank you Blink and all your fellow writers for the accurate info and compelling blogs to help crime victims and their families! Following are some ideas I’ve had, sorry if something was already discussed, I have tried to read every posting on MH’s case, but I may have missed something.
How about this? MH’s car was possibly NEVER at the concert and that is why it has not been processed. Or it may have been processed and kept secret. Maybe it truly stayed in H-burg like her Dad first said, but LE wants it to “seem” like it was at the concert. Thus, the early confusion on her cars whereabouts from the very start! LE may have had to get MH’s parents on board early with this one to keep the investigation intact. I have no clue why I think that-just a feeling. It has always been odd to me that LE has not released which lot her car was parked in at JPJ, but maybe is not so odd to consider if it was NEVER parked there at all. I know after reading every post on here and many other sites that my mind has “always” gone back to the thought of where her car was, even thinking that it may have been parked in the RV lot she was supposedly seen in and that was why she was there in that lot-trying to gain access to it, maybe with the help of someone else? That of course begs the question-was MH ever at the concert to begin with, or is it all just cases of mistaken identity (Dee)? I have wracked my brain trying to figure out why the car has been so totally ignored and not discussed! But I have consistently wanted to know, from the very start, that piece of info; as it seems so very important to what is going on. I don’t care how impaired a person is, they would absolutely want to sit in their own vehicle-out of the cold-to wait for their friends- after they were locked out of a venue! Truly, why go anywhere if you have a perfectly good vehicle to sit in?
This would also answer the question as to why MH never attempted to get her keys or enter her car somehow after she ended up outside the venue-it was never there! And maybe she was never there either! Then we are left with:
1 Why the lie about her car being there to begin with and by whom?
2 What car did MH and friends, (or just friends) actually drive to the show, if not hers?
3 What is known by LE about something possibly happening earlier that day that would have necessitated these “lies” about the car to begin with, and by whom?
4 What purpose would it serve to make “someone” think her car was at the show, or that people believed it to “be” at the show?
5 Was MH or her car ever at JPJ, and if not, what exactly could have happened?
6 Why does this car thing bother me so very much?
That’s all I’ve got for now-thanks for all the impressive thought processes you all have! I will be a long time reader here for sure! Wishing peace and a good outcome for MH’s family-I still feel she is alive somewhere and will keep holding on to that!
i find it strange ,if true,the friends went back to the ‘lot’ to look for her , the next day ,what they thought she’d still be in the parking lot looking for a ride?
#602—Interesting. And when will that confirmation be obtained?
Won’t ask how—jsut thankful that Blink & her team is on it. Very very interesting piece of info right there. Cannot believe LE is not also on top of these types of things. Or they are, they know and they are not speaking.
The location of that body is troubling. It is literally a straight shot down Route 29. One hour and 22 minutes away from UVA.
Boyd Market is on 29, I believe.
http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH9#JmNwPTM3LjY5Mjg4MDc3OTUwNDc4fi03OC44MjkwNTQwODc0MDA0NCZsdmw9OSZzdHk9ciZydHA9cG9zLjM3LjMzODQwMTM3NzIwMTA4Xy03OS4xNDg1NDk0Mzc1MjI4OV9DYW1wJTIwSHlkYXdheSUyMExha2UlMkMlMjBWQV9fX2VffnBvcy4zOC4wNDEzMDUwOTQ5NTczNV8tNzguNTEwNTM1MDYxMzU5NF9Vbml2ZXJzaXR5JTIwb2YlMjBWaXJnaW5pYSUyQyUyMFZBX19fZV8mcnRvcD0wfjB+MH4=
Hope this link works.
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Blink,
So if you know the name of the unidentified BF, do you also know why his name has not been released? I know you can’t say more right now, but just curious.
I know what I have been told, but to be honest, no, I am really not sure.
B
No. I see Boyd Market Tavern is not on 29.
keep in mind everyone praying that the remains found, while not Morgans, do belong to some one’s daughter.
The car holds a prominent place in the investigation as it was one of the LAST places Morgan was seen alive.It should have been processed immediately.imho.Many cases have been botched and later appealed successfully because of evidence that was missed.It was her car and contained some of those who last saw her.If I were a defense attorney I would have the car card in my deck.To me this is evidence gathering 101.
As in the recent case of Sandra Cantu MANY cars were processed(other residents of mobile home park) even after her body was found and Melissa Huchaby was arrested.Police were confident Sandra would be found alive and proceeded in that direction.
If it were my daughter,I would say take her car ,fine tooth comb it.I would want the variables of the disappearance to be explored and not just take participants(concert car poolers) word for it, even if they turn out to have been spotlessly truthful.
Blink,
I must admit when you added the Casey Anthony story I was concerned
Morgan was going to be left behind.
I am happy to see so many of your dedicated followers continue to look for answers in this case.
I am very concerned about the finding of this body. If it is not Morgan, are we looking at a possible serial?
Pushing ahead now and catching up with the news of this morning,praying a family gets resolution from this discovery.Many heartfelt thanks to those who take the time to keep us updated.
669….I appreciate that viewpoint and again what should be a no brainer as in a clear picture of young people going to and from this venue,it has not been made clear.
The to and from should be the easiest question and yet it is not,which doesn’t bode well for the fellow concert goers .Unless le wants it to appear this way.
St.Anger (re: #668) In all honesty, it’s been a number of years since I regularly made it out to large concerts (think: tail-end of Grateful Dead era), but I was at a smaller venue in South Jersey over the summer and was surprised to see the “balloon” practice still alive and strong – and seemingly more organized then I remembered it. A quick Google search yesterday of “Metallica” and “Nitrous tanks” produced a number of message boards describing the “Nitrous Mafia” and how they’ve been getting “out of control” and, for some concert goers, have apparently even been percieved as threatening… so I just went with it.
That said, my rambling post was merely an exercise in speculation. I was attempting to conjure up a scenario in which her friends actually *thought* she said she’d “find a ride home” (distracted inside the loud, exciting venue) as opposed to purposely misleading authorities for whatever reason. The decision not to search her car also struck me as an indication LE had reason to believe the friends.
And, taking that a step further, if MH was stuck outside the show with nowhere to go (as opposed to a local destination), I’d think it would be more likely she engaged with people in the lot than a stranger on a surrounding roadway. My point being that there are often people in the parking areas of these venues with no intention of heading into the concert – even if their intention is “entrepreneurial” rather than predatory. So your scalper example would fall into the category as well, I suppose.
susanm (re: #670) I don’t know if the unverified statement that one or more of the friends went back down to Cville to look for her again the next morning is true at all – it’s just hearsay.
But if the friends are truly innocent (or just guilty of not taking her call from outside seriously as they got their groove on inside), and they truly have no idea where she would have headed locally that night, then these young people were just as puzzled and worried as everyone else. I could see her roommate stopping back at the place MH last was (lot) on the way home out of desperation before heading the three hours back to Blacksburg in her car without her… IF that was the case.
Hello Blink your site is truly interesting to say the least. I want some thoughts on the weather that night. I feel nature has been overlooked here. They were loads of people at the stadium that night lots of eyes and ears. Strange strange . No way was she hitchhiking no way.
No, it has been discussed here a few times in a few threads I believe.
B
susan m, I think the friends probably tried to call morgan after the show and just got voice mail, and then eventually might have texted her to say, hey, haven’t heard from you, we’ll swing by the lot at 8 a.m. in case you are still in town, so text me back or meet us there. maybe.
So, based on this snippet from a recent article, does it mean we are now 100% sure she was on the bridge (and thus at the concert)? Did dogs really alert to her scent?
“The Harringtons have come to a bridge in Charlottesville because it is the last place Morgan was seen before her disappearance. They say to be in this place to breath the air Morgan breathed allows them to be close to her in some way.
“I know dogs smelling on this bridge can smell her so there is something of her here. There is nothing of her in our home,” shared Gil Harrington.
http://www.news8.net/news/stories/1109/682058.html
Blink, you mention in above post that you feel that the “body” that was found in Lynchburg is not Morgan?
Can you explain why you feel this way?
Sweetpea-I agree with your line of thinking too. This very possibly could be the case.
Radiogirl wpgmouse- Yes, I do agree also to your point of the car being processed. It is almost a crime so to speak that it wasn’t processed.
The eye witness statements, and also the “friends” statements to LE have now proven to be unreliable, and confusing. How can you establish a credible timeline on the night of the 17th, and attempt to piece together Morgans movements, when the information that has been reported isn’t even reliable? We still do not even know if the sightings were Morgan or Dee at this point? Who can verify for solid facts these sightings? The basketball players?
We do not even know the whereabouts of all the friends the night of or the day after. Just because they “told” the Harringtons and LE where they went and where they were, doesn’t mean that they really went where they said they did. How do we even really know were the car really was??? We don’t. LE probably may have made an error in judgement by taking the friends statements for truth, and disregarding the car in same as disregarding the friends, just based on their statements. Some have made assumptions that they have a person of interest, and are trying to build a case against them. I’m not so sure, but I suppose it is possible.
Back to the purse, the phone, and missing Morgan. That’s really about all we have isn’t it? The rest is speculation on possible theories POI and scenarios. Oh, also, we could probably include another deceased female body found as of this morning to the mix.
Whoever this is, she is someones daughter, sister, granddaughter, friend. My thoughts are with the family of this missing girl.
I thought it was likely Cassandra Morton, who went missing about October 10 based on logistics, but I am not liking that this is a straight shot down 29. Paralell offroad to Blacksburg.
B
suz – you ARE just speculating, correct?
I maintain interest in the incident at Boyd Tavern based on the following data points:
The author of the original post referencing the incident at Boyd Tavern stated that her step-dad stopped “…to see if they were open and they had already closed.”
Boyd Tavern Market is a small convenience store located at 4842 Richmond Rd. in Albemarle County.
A clerk at the Boyd Tavern Market has confirmed that the Market closes at 7pm on Saturday evenings.
Boyd Tavern Market is on Richmond Rd.
Richmond Rd. is also Rt. 250.
Ivy Rd. is also Rt. 250.
[As aptly pointed out by an earlier poster, Rt. 250 bears several names depending on the section of Rt. 250.]
MH is alleged to have been seen last on the Copeley Rd. Bridge near the intersection with Ivy Rd.
The author stated that her step-dad “…ran into some young man who was very distraught and was wanting how to get to Harrisonburg, but before my Step dad could tell him directions he said he had to go now.” She goes on to say “We were concerned because there were other people in the vehicle and the young man was freaking out.”
The author’s statements lead me to believe that she was with her step-dad during this incident; it is not second-hand information coming to her later from her step-dad.
She goes on to say “The time is shady we know it was after 8:30 or 9pm.”
It would take approximately 15 min. to drive from Ivy Rd. to Boyd Tavern Market. If the young male driver of the vehicle referred to at the Boyd Tavern Market is involved in the MH disappearance, it would place him at the Boyd Tavern Market at approx. 9:35pm.
Finally, the author aptly questions “WHY would this young man be so upset and agitated and trying to get back to Harrisonburg fast, he obviously was not from this area.”
Re: acho #534 post: “…I bet LE would have been more interested in this individual’s story.”
I submit that LE is indeed interested in the account by the author of the original post, going to LE’s later interest in anyone witnessing MH attempting to get a ride from someone.
A final word on hitchhiking: Corrine Geller of the VSP stated on November 13: “We now can confirm that she was hitchhiking.”
@ suz i mean on the phone call scenario. . .
About the body found in Lynchburg, “The Campbell County Sheriff’s Office says the clothes do not match those that Harrington was last seen wearing.”
Here is the link:
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/a_hiker_stumbles_across_a_body_on_camp_hideaway_road_in_campbell_county/65296/
I sincerely hope they are going on more than that.
B
“I thought it was likely Cassandra Morton, who went missing about October 10 based on logistics, but I am not liking that this is a straight shot down 29. Paralell offroad to Blacksburg.
B ”
Also not liking this Camp Hydaway vs Camp Tuk-a-way, Caldwell Fields.
AND RV park. Just before crossover to VT on 460. Praying for whoever this is of course, and it certainly would not match the MO of Caldwell Fields if it is Ms. Morton, but something is definitely up in that corridor.
B
hi B….just following from a distance in san francisco…is it just me, or does there seem to a be a lot of bodies being found in VA in the last few months…..
For certain reasons I do not believe that the body found on Candler’s Mountain is that of MH.
Observer, you expect any of us to accept that one line post from you?
Kidding affectionately, why is that?
B
It took them a month to confirm hitch hikihg?I’m trying to reconcile that with the times we live in and parents who took great care and caution with their daughter. She may have felt a level of comfort with the area and made a dangerous choice indeed.
The only way I can feel that could be a possibility would be if she were inebriated.Still,if it were me ,I would have at least 3 or 4 people that would come pick me up.I would also stay close to the arena if I lost my phone and ask a security guard for help( a female guard hopefully).
I went to a 2 day conference recently in Dallas. At any given time, I could find at least 4 or 5 police(within eye shot,they were everywhere you looked) men and women with radio’s and such offering help to those that needed it.
I was just about to ask about the Caldwell fields.
Confirmed to me at this point means she was captured on video, which we know is not the case.
B
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=64348
this Beacher Hackney guy that shot 2 people and fled from The Homestead in Hot Springs, Virginia, in March 2009, has never been apprehended. It was “rumored” that he was hiding out in surrounding National Forest campgrounds this past summer. . .
That guy has a past nobody knows about, of that I am certain.
B
Blink
No, not saying the same perp at this point. Meant some parallel to the site names, given Camp Tuk-a-way had been put out to public first.
A quick update, no ID yet. http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11589283
Observer: Nope, not accepting that one liner either. Not you. Can you explain “certain reasons” ?
On another note, I wasn’t aware of 2 other young women besides Morgan that were missing. Is Ms Morton included in the other 2 cases?
I agree Observer that the Boyd Tavern Market is important, and hopefully LE has this part all covered. It would be very easy for someone trying to leave the area of JPJ, knowing that they had to get onto the 250/29 Bypass about 2 miles West of Copeley Bridge to head West on Interstate 64 to Harrisonburg. Problem is, if you’re not from the area the sign at 64 says West to Staunton, or East to Richmond. Of course we know that you have to go to Staunton to get to 81 North toward Harrisonburg, but if this guy was in a panic, with a possibly “very sick” Morgan, than he could easily head toward Richmond. It could be the Shadwell Exit or the Boyd Tavern Exit before he realized he might need to turn around. Thus, asking for directions at the nearest convenience store once off the highway.
This same 250/29 Bypass is the direct route to 29 South, which you’d take to go to Lynchburg and Campbell County. (Knowing they’ve got this beautiful 23 year old missing from Oct. 10, the sheriff of Campbell Co. must be inferring this body must not belong to her?)
re #687
“Boyd Tavern Market is on Richmond Rd.
Richmond Rd. is also Rt. 250.
Ivy Rd. is also Rt. 250.
[As aptly pointed out by an earlier poster, Rt. 250 bears several names depending on the section of Rt. 250.]”
… However it is *not* a straight, simple shot from Copeley Bridge and Ivy Rd (250W) out to Richmond Rd (250E), where Boyd Tavern/Keswick is. One would have to get on the highly trafficked bypass and go through much of the city first. Really, if one were aiming to get out of town fast, it’d be simpler to stay on 250W, get on 64, or get on 29S. FWIW, which probably isn’t much. Observer, I know you know all of this, living in C’ville, but readers might assume you are describing an easier, more-direct route that would keep a driver on the same road the entire time.
My original point was that the caller didn’t seem to “get” that Boyd Tavern is a community, not a place of business. There is the Boyd Tavern Market, true, but the caller does not say that. It just makes me think twice about the veracity of the story and location.