Morgan Harrington Case: Separating Fact From Fiction From Facebook Part II
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Charlottesville, VA– Just passing the month mark, the disappearance of Morgan Harrington from the John Paul Jones Area located on the UVA campus, leaves us with more questions than answers. Part II
The Faces of Her Facebook
Help Find Morgan Harrington was developed by a few concerned individuals interested in spreading the word about Morgan’s disappearance and boasts over 30,000 members. Not all posts are welcome.
In particular, a member by the name of Nelson Kane was recently banned for posting very detailed hypothesis scenarios that sparked a firestorm of interest in the self-appointed athlete scout. His posts were deleted at the request of Law Enforcement who admit tasking two officers with monitoring the web for such activity in Morgan’s case.
Additionally, Mr. Kane reached out to several individuals on facebook as well as the Harrington family’s findmorgan.com site in attempts to speak to the family directly and request an interview. The Harrington’s were made aware of the concern for such requests by sources close to the investigation.
He has recently changed his facebook drastically.
Mr. Kane, a member of the family owning the longtime furniture store of the same name in Charlottesville is also a UVA alumni and season ticket holder. In addition to UVA, Kane also claims to have attended Virginia Tech on many of his many social networking profiles. He also fancies himself as somewhat of a Rock band critic.
On his site, nkscouting.com which he has maintained since 2001, Kane chronicles his trips to scout mostly High School basketball and football athletes. In an effort to make his site more interesting (his words) he details the travel experience, routes, times and in some cases photos of his visits to High Schools mostly within a few hours driving distance.
Very early on in Morgan’s case, blinkoncrime.com explored the idea that perhaps the double murder of VT freshmen David Metzler and Heidi Childs on August 27th should be investigated as a possible link to Morgan’s case simply because they attend the school and Morgan and Heidi bare a remarkable resemblance to one another.
As far as very odd coincidences go, the location of Nelson Kane’s scouting foray the evening of the August 28th could not be more relevant.
Kane scouted the game at Jefferson Forest High School. The very School Heidi Childs graduated from a year earlier. Unlike most of Kane’s other journal entries of his athlete accolades, there is no mention of his travel experience to or from Forest High School so it is unclear where he left from, when he got there, or when he returned home.
This is in no way an accusation that Mr. Kane had any involvement whatsoever in such a heinous crime, of course, but given his proclivities for leaving at all hours of the day and night his keen attention to travel detail and familiarity with the area: Perhaps he saw someone or something amiss in his trip that could help investigators.
On Saturday October 17th, Kane scouts a game, listens to the UVA football game on his way home and is home in plenty of time to make the concert.
Blink how do you know he was at the concert you ask? I do not. I do know he knows alot about security at the JPJ Arena, how to navigate the different lots near Uhall, and of course that there are blue portable lavatories next to Lanigan Field. His posts from the Charlottesville Daily Progress below:
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I don’t believe it is her either, Observer.
I, however am basing this belief on absolutely nothing.
Yes,I hear you.The hitch hiking seems contrived.An after the fact explanation for Morgan not being with the group.It just doesn’t seem plausible at this point or believable.But I’ll eat crow on that one if I’m wrong…. Heaven knows……I have a freezer full.
No way to know for sure until there is a positive ID, but my thinking would be that this is the sad end to one of the two disappearances from the Lynchburg area. I knew there was one woman missing, but did not realize there was also a student missing from Lynchburg College. All very disturbing.
Thanks for that inf’n, Observer (#687). I’m local, but didn’t think about the Boyd Tavern Market. That would also fit in with the alleged MH sightings on Pantops.
Observer (re: #687) That account remains on my mind as well. I believe that in the initial posting of the alleged incident (Nov. 1), the poster/step-daughter noted that it was reported to the VSP.
That said, it is an extreeeemely short window of time between a live MH walking along Copeley Road/Ivy Lane (if that was the case) and a panicked/distraught car of young people somehow involved in her disappearance turning around in the Boyd Tavern Market lot at 9:30. One would think if something happened as soon as she entered a vehicle or minutes after, they’d be asking where the nearest ER was… not Harrisonburg.
In fact, that sighting, if true and actually related to this case, would make a LOT more sense if it occured an hour or so after the time noted by the poster. Also, one would think that if looked into by the VSP as a potentially credible sighting, a vehicle description would have been released in an attempt to garner more possible witnesses to the agitated Hburg-bound group.
The fact that so little info or requests for witness accounts re: specific potential leads was released makes me think investigators zeroed in on whatever happened close to the get-go, and are building their case against those involved or awaiting a lead to her remains. They’re certainly not asking for the public’s help anymore, save for the phone usage a few weeks back and hitch-hiking sightings.
Do you think the HH confirmation is verifiably accurate? How could that be?
OK everyone please forgive me for thinking of this scenario….We have the Child’s murder near Blacksburg, college town, young woman possibly doing with her boyfriend what may be an “insult” to, say, a religious observer. We have Morgan dressed, with all due respect, in what might be mistaken as the wrong kind of outfit. And walking along a road looking for a ride. Then the two young women in Lynchburg, home of Liberty University, the most conservative school anywhere that I can think of. Candler Mountain is right there at Liberty University, and it’s not far from Lynchburg College.
I sure hope none of this is related, but I can also see someone who fits the profile (not necessarily NK, but very like NK?) trolling along 29, 460, 81, and 64. Creepy and terrifying.
I’m hoping that LE can make some statements soon.
Do you think that LE is checking out all the places where couples might “park”…maybe a gray/silver van has already been spotted in one or more of these areas? This creep POI is trying to rid our culture of what he believes is evil? He could look like a harmless conservative middle-aged man wearing a cardigan sweater and toting a bible. Yuck. Sorry to have dissolved. Maybe I need to take a break.
I could be wrong, but I feel strongly this is someone Morgan knew, as do her friends.
B
I still think Morgan was with someone who was known to her and her friends, maybe not known WELL, but at least someone they were familiar with. I can’t imagine them just taking off after the concert without her unless they felt certain she was with an individual they thought they could all trust. I know the friends hung around for a while afterwards, but to drive the whole way home without Morgan just doesn’t make sense to me. Why didn’t they call security or the police? The only reason for not doing that is they thought they knew who she was with, and it was always a possibility from early on that she may not ride home with them. Maybe they had two cars that travelled to C-ville, one was Morgan’s, the other had some other “friends” in it who didn’t go to the concert but hung out somwhere in town. The car thing is a little(huge) question mark, as well as the Boyd Tavern incident.
OK thanks Blink…that’s reassuring, even if only it means we don’t have a creep trolling around. I’ve felt all along that Morgan left on her own accord, with a purpose…but just can’t figure out what happened after that. I sometimes wish I could keep my mind from spinning.
As mentioned in my earlier post (#702) I had read about the disappearance of Cassandra Morton after being referenced on this site. Is she the same person identified only as a missing Lynchburg College student in the report liked to Chad’s post #692 or is there another woman missing from the Lynchburg area? After reading the linked report, I tried to find information online about a student missing from Lynchburg College but came up empty. I find it hard to accept that there could be 2 other women missing so close to Charlottesville with little or no reporting on the disappearances here locally (Charlottesville.)
Blink, you said in response to #706, “I could be wrong, but I feel strongly this is someone Morgan knew, as do her friends.
B”….
My question: Do you feel this was a young or older person that Morgan “knew”? And, how well did she know him…..vaguely familiar or closer?
close
B
blink – if you think its someone she knew, then why does everyone keep trying to drag the BBall players into it? she clearly did not know them and her ecounter with them was pure happenstance?
They are witnesses.
B
Correction, Chad included the link with post #696.
localcvillegirl – although I agree that the location might be convenient for what you are implying re: childs/metzler, let’s not jump to conclusions re: their activities that evening.
I think it is probably someone she knew too, and probably someone everyone underestimated as having a harmless crush on this free-spirited, artsy, benevolent girl. She probably made the mistake of not shunning him, like the rest of society.
What does “as do her friends” mean? Have they talked about what happened or who they think might have harmed her? It’s been a long day back after the long weekend, forgive me if I’m slow…
localcvillegirl
“Then the two young women in Lynchburg, home of Liberty University, the most conservative school anywhere that I can think of.”
I was not aware of two young women.
Cassandra Morton, yes, but what is the name of the other?
RE: acho #699: You raise some excellent points.
The Boyd Tavern incident was reported to VSP.
When the caller/author made reference to Boyd Tavern, she indicated that her step-dad stopped “…to see if they were open and they had already closed.”
The caller knew that the place she was referring to in her post was a place of business, e.g, a convenience store, rather than the town of Boyd Tavern. If she were intentionally filing a false report, she might mistakenly think that Boyd Tavern was truly a “tavern” or bar (as some later respondents thought). If that were the case, however, she would not report that it (Boyd “Tavern”) “was already closed” by 8:30 or 9pm (on a Saturday evening, no less).
That the caller did not make a specific distinction in her post, re: Boyd Tavern the market v. Boyd Tavern the community, is not troubling.
You raise another excellent point: There is no straight trajectory from Ivy Rd./Rt. 250 to the Boyd Tavern Market on Rt. 250. While it is all Rt. 250, a driver must take a bypass through the city.
If the driver of the vehicle referenced at the Boyd Tavern Market were unfamiliar with the area–as witnessed by his reportedly frantic request for help and directions to Harrisonburg–he would not know this; that is, he would not know the quickest, easiest route out of the CV environs. He might mistakenly believe that following the signs for Rt. 250 would take him most quickly from CV.
Re: J2K #704: I am not of the mind that a panicked assailant (and/or group of assailants) would be asking for the closest ER. Rather, in their panic they choose to flee. The “Fight (non-literal) or Flight” syndrome would immediately be in play, and my vote would rest with “Flight”.
I am in complete agreememt with you: LE is awaiting a lead to MH’s remains. There are consistent indications that lead to that conclusion.
Re: The FB on Candler’s Mountain: No further comment.
Once MH’s remains are recovered, there will be enough evidence for an indictment. The guilty party may be off-limits for now–but only for now.
kksmom (#713): You’re absolutely right, I should not jump to conclusions about what Childs and Metzler were doing. Which I wasn’t. I was implying that the murderer might have gotten the wrong impression, especially if he has a hang-up about couples and young women.
wpgmouse (#716): I probably jumped the gun on this but read in an earlier post that there was also a Lynchburg College student missing. I had not heard of Cassandra Morton until the other day…not on our front pages that I was aware of…so stands to reason there could be more young women that I hadn’t heard of. And I was having this little flurry of panicky thoughts. I have several teenagers…some girls, and one in college, and know dozens of cool young women who could be Morgan, Cassandra, or the Childs girl. We are all vulnerable until BG is found. Friend or not.
When I settle down, I do go back to my earlier belief that Morgan left to see a friend, new or old, and that this person was known by her other friends as well.
Observer, et al -
I am landing back in the area of my initial speculations:
Upon ending up outside the venue, MH rejoined a group she was with prior to the concert with her other friends, and things took a nose-dive quickly.
Perhaps she had a more serious head injury than she thought after her alleged spill in the venue – brain swelling from such an impact could render someone lucid for at least an hour before the victim’s descention into a coma.
Or, her partying earlier caught up with her when she hopped back in her local friends’ car, if that’s what happened.(I think if she hitched, it was either in jest or to alert her ride to stop.)
Heck – maybe she took a heavy dose of something immediately after reconnecting with friend(s) at the intersection of Copeley and Ivy Lane, triggering an immediate overdose. Point is, if the Boyd Tavern sighting is related and LE’s timeline is correct, then she was with her “assailants” for less than 20 minutes … unless the potential witnesses’ time is way off.
That said, I still don’t think she was assailed by stranger(s), and have a hard time believing someone/people she trusted would have purposely tried to end her life through violence or related means – especially if (in going back to the Bord Tavern incident) the potential POI(s) was/were seemingly distraught and “freaking out” when asking for directions. Such behavior points to something unexpected and very frightening happening… and that points to something related to drugs… or something they *thought* was related to drug use or drinking.
Listen to the video on the right.
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11589283
There are two other missing girls in Lynchburg, one of them is Cassandra.
Looking at the Blacksburg, Harrisonburg, Charlottesville route again, Waynesboro is jumping out at me. Another possible stop along the route either way. Closest to JPJ.
Never noticed that until now.
Right? Not that I would ever have to call you off your wheel to point it out, but from the get go I posted this, Waynesboro, specifically, the MM 105 of Skyline is of particular interest to me.
B
This story has so many possibilities, but I still believe as you do Blink that it is someone she knew and the friends knew too. I have never believed the friends stories from the start and with friends like these who needs enemies. One thing I do think is it is strange that a beautiful girl like Morgan did not have many boyfriends as Gil stated once. If she was really shy maybe but she did not seem shy. Maybe there was someone that was not known to everyone. I also do not understand why LE and the Harrington’s feel the friends are being honest. Even if they were, I would be very upset if my child’s friends treated my child with such disregard. I too agree it was someone she knew and the friends knew but for some reason I think LE has made some errors I just do not think they are silent because they have a POI but I do think they have somehow mishandled this. I do not mean to sound negative but this is sooooo frustrating I just think more should be done. Love the site though Blink and I pray everyday for the Harrington’s and for Morgan. Just venting I guess.
klsmom, correct, just speculating (as most of what we can do in this extremely confusing and tightlipped case is to speculate, even about stuff we where factual answers could be had).
Blink
I hope you are right with your thinking this is not Morgan. I so badly want her found alive. I am praying for the Harrington family as I am sure they are waiting on news about the identity. And I am praying for the family of this person, if it is not Morgan. So sad that the body did not have a head. I feel awful for these victims.
WDBJ noon news http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11589283
I believe the BB sighting is critical. I believe that she approached them, started talking to them, told them she was waiting to meet someone (that’s why they left her unconcerned), and could have possibly told them of WHOM she was going to meet, or might they have actually seen the car she got into?
About the Morgan’s car – I would assume that it not being processed is because LE has placed the scene of the crime definatively outside the car, thus the statement of it being irrelevant.
I believe LE already has a POI, can track her meeting up with the POI and are trying to put together the pieces after that so as to locate Morgan and get the evidence they need to make an arrest. There is no other logical explaination as to LE’s handling of this case on so many different levels.
I believe it is someone Morgan, and her friends, know. I do not believe that this was done by a stranger, nor do I believe she was hitch-hiking. Dogs picking up her scent on the bridge and no further, if true, simply confirms she got in a car. Considering the location and it probably not being the direction one would go to try and hitch-hike, if they were that dumb as to hitch-hike, which I am most certain Morgan was smarter than, and the fact that her car was right there (supposedly) and that all she had to do was wait for her friends, what would make more sense is that she met someone there and got in the car on her own accord.
I also believe her phone holds a key, in whom she was texting (or calling), as I believe this is how the meeting on the bridge occurred.
Actually, the only piece that doesn’t make sense (to me) is the purse in the parking lot. I would not rule it out quite yet about someone not returning it the parking lot at a later point, after the concert once the crowd died down. Funny no one had found the purse earlier when there were people everywhere.
I have to have faith this she will be found, hopefully alive but if not, at least found, and that there will be justice for whatever it is that has happened to Morgan. She needs to be found, her family and all who love her need her to be found, and who over is responsible also needs to be found.
re: the boyd’s tavern thing, why do we think our perp would be so distraught that he would stop to frantically ask for directions to harrisonburg?
“Help, I’ve abducted a girl and I need to get out of town in a hurry. How do I get to Harrisonburg?”
I am probably missing something obvious, so…help! thanks
creepy photo of where the Campbell County body was found (skeletonized, and head detached from the body, though they’re not sure if that was how the body was left, or if it happened in the month or more it was sitting there)
http://wdbj.images.worldnow.com/images/11589283_BG1.JPG
Re: FB at Camp Hydaway
Wonder if/where any POIs went to sleepaway or day camp?
As one who lives and drives these paths from Boyd Tavern/Keswick to UVA to Pantops during the week, the stop at Boyd Tavern does not seem out of the way – I do not drive through Cville due to traffic lights/accidents etc. It is much easier to hop on 64 and cruise around. this would take you back to Pantops from UVA in about 5 minutes and then it is not a stretch too far from Pantops to Milton to Boyd Tavern on 250 if someone is not familiar with how to get back to Harrisonburg, ie the opposite direction. I am still interested in the areas I have mentioned previously but I guess if LE had leads to this area they would have pursued a search further than the recently searchs multiple times of Martha Jefferson, State Farm and Comfort Inn…..
the lack of new searches leads me to believe that LE has no reason to go forward beyond what they have already done without any *new* solid leads.
DZ (#669) — Your theory that her car might never have made it to the concert is intriguing. After I listened to Lt. Rader’s comments I noticed that he says her car is only relevant from VT to JMU. What he doesn’t say speaks louder to me than what he does say. Could it be that she did not travel in her own car from JMU to CV? They took two cars and she rode with someone else?
That doesn’t jive with DG’s comment (witnessing MH and friends getting out of the vehicle parked next to his). But then again, there’s a lot that doesn’t jive. Maybe it never was her car that they drove to CV.
Rader’s quote: “The relevancy of the car is the transportation from Virginia Tech to James Madison University. The relevancy of the car is not a relevancy of her being missing because the two are not associated in this particular investigation.”
I bring the car issue up again because it challenges our idea that she had traveled to the arena in her car with two girls and one guy.
Blink— I’m glad we can respectfully disagree on the hitchhiking thing. I agree that someone could have called in a fake witness account of MH hitchhiking but who would take that chance? Since LE is holding all the information cards at the moment I am going to err on the side of what they have presented. I’ll eat crow if need be.
body was so decomposed as to be just bones wearing jeans http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11589283
so, if sultry florida, then maybe poor morgan, but in cool VA? nope, has to have been there for much longer, right?
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1109/682917.html
Questions Surround Body Discovery
Excerpt [This story is generating a lot of interest from media outlets around the state. A crew from Richmond has shown up believing the remains could be those of Virginia Tech student Morgan Harrington. The sheriff tells me they are too decomposed to be Harrington's and the victim’s clothing does not match what Harrington was last seen wearing.]
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1109/682917.html
Hi Blink. I love your site and the dedication you bring in the pursuit of justice for victims and their families. you are truly a blessing.
I have a question..I have read through numerous threads and I’m not sure if this has been answered. Are we 100% positive that the clothes Morgan was reportedly wearing the night she went missing are definitely what she had on? There are no pictures or video that have been released to confirm this (that we are aware of)…i know this is kind of a knit picky question but if the police would put out there a story about her allegedly hitch hiking (which i strongly believe to be false) i wonder if its possible that they may be putting other info out as well as “facts” to try to mess up the alleged perp (whom i believe they are closing in on). Thanks! sorry for the long rambling post
Hi everyone. Only posted once or twice before, but then I went in meditation for 10 days and took an oath of silence. So no phone, internet, etc. Just got back yesterday and finished catching up tonight, although I just scanned the posts so not sure what is going on yet though. I just try to listen to Blinks answers.
Anyway, I thought about it a little tonight. All the information that has led me to this conclusion has come from this board, as its the only thing I use to follow Morgan (so I dont have news links or backup or anything – but you can find all the chatter in these forums)
It has been alluded to that Morgan’s parents wanted her out of a relationship or not not see a guy or to break up with a guy or something of that nature approx 6 months ago. Either way, something to do with a guy.
Morgan’s friends knew that she was going to meet this guy at the concert. It just worked out that way. She prob already had the tickets, etc. Maybe he had tickets too and was supposed to meet them there and go with them. Maybe he didnt have tickets, and she was going to meet him and then meet up with them after the concert. Either way, she planned to meet this guy there.
This would also explain why she got pretty drunk, etc. if she was drunk – prob nervous to see him again, or just wanted to get a little happy before they went out. Keep in mind, she is 20 years old – I used to get nervous around guys and drink and party, etc. She’s in college.
So she leaves the arena to meet him. That was planned. She didnt “go to the bathroom and never come back”. The friends knew she was meeting him, etc. They probably disclosed this to police finally after a few days – I dont think they are hiding anything anymore, although the originally were at first because they didnt realize how serious it was, and were covering for their friend with her parents (like all college kids).
Whatever, whatever, she leaves the arena, shes drunk, looking for him, he’s late or isnt there yet, says he will be there in an hour or whatever – so she tries to get back in but cant, so she gets pissed because now she has to wait outside in the rain/cold for an hour. Whatever, no big deal, she starts walking around the parking lot, doing whatever – prob eventually will tell her friend to give her the keys to her car to sit in while she waits, but for now, too much of a hassle to get her friend all the way down from her seats to the right entrance, etc. (you know how concert halls are), plus shes drunk, isnt thinking clearly, whatever. No big conspiracy here. She figures she will just wait out the 45 min or hour or whatever.
Makes her way to the RV lot, see’s the players, prob has a few shots with them (hence their suspension for “disorderly conduct off the court” – “personal issues” was probably the fact the guy had a breakdown after realizing he was the last person to see this drunk girl alive that he had a few shots with in the stadium parking lot, gets a dose of reality at the tender age of 21, has an emotional breakdown, etc., plus he’s now a key witness and answering tons of questions and feeling super guilty and has a bunch of “what-ifs”, so yeah, he takes a personal leave of absence. its kind of a big deal.)
So while down there, like 45 min, 30 min, whatever has passed, and she gets ahold of the guy again, and he says he’s like right there at the bridge, so she leaves the players and goes up to the bridge to wait for him to come by (doesnt really know what direction he is coming from, or is too incoherent to know, so she’s on both sides of the street hoping not to miss him, hence sightings on both sides).
He picks her up, she gets in the car, off they go. Done. Basketball players keep doing their thing, everyone goes home.
Basketball players = witnesses, last people to see her alive.
She probably spent the night with the guy, or didnt and something bad happened, but whatever went down, ended badly. From these boards – if she did spend the night with the guy, she would not be wearing the same clothes. (Chandlers Mountain references), and most likely would just be in his sweats and a tshirt or something. So body found, clothes not the same doesnt really mean anything.
Dont really know about the backpack in the RV lot – may have been placed there after, dropped at the time, not sure its too much of a key in the investigation – if it was placed after, it was placed by him. If it was during her time in the lot, she dropped it and forgot about it.
Battery is on her, in her pocket.
I think they are watching this guy and I think the family and friends know he did it, but they dont have a body, no evidence, etc. And if no one saw him, you cant really prove he was in his car for 3 hours at 9:30pm – he didnt go anywhere public – just house, car, house or Chandlers Mountain (at night), and then house. In the dark, and barely ever leaves the car. So he may as well have been at home watching TV for all anyone knows.
Not sure if they have searched his car – but if they had a relationship at one point, her DNA would be all over it anyway, so nothing major there.
So I guess this theory is based on the assumption that the body is, in fact, hers.
May all beings have peace an harmony.
Body is not Morgan – confirmation in the next hour or so.
Thanks Reece, I am aware, and will post.
B
this person could be brittney drexel? small frame. i believe she was very tiny in hotel photo.
plus did anyone hear about a search near I81 south near lexington, va? i am confused about all these missing girls and how this keeps happening.
i thought that we all inform and educate our daughters and sons about these dangers. what is this world coming too???
blink: i am keeping updated with your site. i do not know what i would do without it. the news is becoming more and more about the sound bite and ratings. thank you.
suz— let’s say she was not abducted but was with a group of people that she willingly went with (maybe she knew them, maybe she didn’t) and something went terribly in the car. Then the Boyd Tavern incident could make sense.
Have been following this case on your site Blink as I think it is the most accurate. A few things – if Morgan’s car was taken to the concert and one of her friends drove it – they would have been in possession of her keys -AND – it is likely that her house keys would have been on the same ring as her car keys – so if that is they case – how would she have gotten into her apt.? Also I believe that she was meeting someone she knew because it was a chilly evening and she had no jacket – she would have been cold trying to find a ride home. Also you have stated that LE is in possession of the last text? I believe that there is a lot more evidence that LE has that is not privy to us – understandable. I think the friends are holding something the police want kept out of the public – I mean if all they had was that she said she was going to find a ride home and that was that don;t you think we would hear more from them on talk shows or something – so as to help the case like her parents are doing – but we hear nothing. I say they know more or are in someway connected.
Boyd Tavern Market
4842 Richmond Rd, Keswick, VA – (434) 295-3488
please google map it…there are street-view shots of the Gas station/convenience/lottery tickets/cigarettes & beer store and route 250 called Richmond Rd.
Now, I’m not going to deny the whole previously mentioned story, BUT….
this market ALWAYS closes early; if two cars are pulled in there…well there’s no pulling-out fast, it’s only like a car wide and hinky angles..AND it’s dark at night when the lights are off there.
That’s all I’m talking about. Don’t get so worked up about the story; its got issues.
“Right? Not that I would ever have to call you off your wheel to point it out, but from the get go I posted this, Waynesboro, specifically, the MM 105 of Skyline is of particular interest to me.
B”
Blink,
Glad you responded. That’s right, and I’ve always kept your get-go in the back of my mind. But dopey me just noticed it today in map context with the other 3 places, and that’s why it “jumped out”.
Your get-go is pretty darn good, Blink.
(BTW, do you mean a hamster wheel.)
Lol, nothing dopey about you wpg. I assumed your cousins and y’all might have different wheels but did not know what to call it, if your strictly a tube mouse you must watch THE OFFICE.
B
suz (#723) “re: the boyd’s tavern thing, why do we think our perp would be so distraught that he would stop to frantically ask for directions to harrisonburg?
‘Help, I’ve abducted a girl and I need to get out of town in a hurry. How do I get to Harrisonburg?’
I am probably missing something obvious, so…help! thanks”
Well, don’t know that I can help, per se, but you *are* assuming it was a perp or gang that absconded with MH, (which it very well could have been). For me, the Boyd Tavern sighting, if true and related to the case, would indicate the situation that resulted in her disappearance included a small crew of stupid young men hanging with her, and something went bad. Real bad. And they freaked the freak out.
If a master criminal or disturbed sex offender is behind her disappearance, than no, I don’t believe he would desperately reach out to a potential witness for navigational assistance.
B – back to possibility the POI is someone or people she was close to. How could (what seems to be) a standoff between some college-age punk(s) and VSP – with the Feds hovering in the wings – last this long without someone making a move? Could LE really be dealing with someone or people *that* cunning and unbreakable? (Or that lucky?)
1. Witnesses with Dads with cash and lawyers on retainer.
2. L U C K
3. Lack of test results from direct evidence or lack of same.
4. Time/Evidentiary loss for treating situation as a runaway initially.
As an fyi, Feds never hover. They are either invited or not; they have not been.
B
Blink-
Are you aware of the college student from Lynchburg College that went missing?
I am finding it very distrubing that there are 2 missing women and 3
murdered bodies found in this vacinity.
I am not sure about the size of the Lynchburg College student, but
Cassandra and Morgan are both 5’6”, approx. same weight and went missing one week from each other.
Both on a Saturday night Morgan last seen 9:30 pm and Cassandra last seen 10:00 pm.
If I were any of those individuals that think is perfectly safe in those communities, I would think twice before I went out walking around by myself.
The north end of the Blue Ridge Parkway becomes the south end of the Skyline Drive at Rockfish Gap (near Waynesboro) where the road passes over both I-64 and Route 250. You can access the BR Parkway – Skyline Drive from either Route 250 or I-64 (exit 99). The Blue Ridge Parkway, which runs south from Rockfish Gap to North Carolina, does not charge an entrance fee. The Skyline Drive does charge a fee and Mile Marker 120 is just after the manned entrance station going north from the Rockfish Gap. As far as I know the entrance station is manned 24 hours a day, so Park Service employees might remember if anyone came by that late at night.
In the fall of 2006 a UVa female student was found killed just off one of the overlooks on the Blue Ridge Parkway where she had gone to study. The location was about seven miles south of Rockfish Gap. Someone had stolen her car and left theirs at the scene. Her body was noticed down the slope of the overlook by a passer-by. There was a massive, and I mean massive, hunt for the suspect by LE who was found in Florida about two days later; he died from a self-inflicted shot to the head.
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Thanks for posting that. So If I understand correctly, mm 105-119 do not incur a fee?
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suz, #722, I believe the thinking is that perhaps Morgan had been partying with the guys who stopped at Boyd’s Tavern, and she ingested (willing or unwillingly) something which caused her to pass out/convulse?, hence, the guys panicked. Instead of taking her to a hospital (scared, no doubt), they were trying to get her home to H-burg, or somewhere they would feel she could get help. I know it isn’t rational behavior, but if Morgan were in dire straits, it’s hard to tell how young guys might react.
I am ahead of you, witholding for now, thanks.
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blink ,i like your czar or czaress of missing persons idea.in reply to veracity’s recent posts.
QUOTE : “Right? Not that I would ever have to call you off your wheel to point it out, but from the get go I posted this, Waynesboro, specifically, the MM 105 of Skyline is of particular interest to me.
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The area you are referring to is also an area that does not permitted hunting . I was hoping the hunters would be a good set of eyes in this case , in that area I don’t think hunters will be much help .
I am in Waynesboro and a couple min from the area of the Blue Ridge Parkway you are referencing . MM 105 I can see it from my front porch . This area you reference is a main vein for I-64 and rt 250 along with the entrance to both the Blue Ridge Parkway SOUTH and Skyline Drive NORTH . If I were leaving C-ville with a body I needed to dump the FIRST place I would head is the exact area you mention . I would head south on the Blue ridge side as there is no visitor booth to pass as you would headed north . Access is 24/7 EXCEPT hunting season then they lock the gates and no access . Gates would have been open until around Nov 15th . You are literally on TOP of Afton Mountain/Blue ridge mountains at this main interchange of 250/I-64 and the Parkway . Casual drive I est. 20 min , if I was in a hurry I could be sitting at this interchange in 10-12 min from JPJA .
Now I must ask what exactly do you find of interest in this area besides the obvious . A certain location that needs searched ? . A certain area of MM105 . The reason I ask is I can easily access that area within 10 min but I wouldn’t begin to know what area to look in . Also note this area accesses the Appalachian trail that is used regularly by seasoned hikers .If the friends story of the day is true they passed along with Morgan’s car through this area once that day at a min .
Where to look ?
My best answer includes your own words, and my profile based on several agreements therein. I am being purposelly guarded as to my response, my apologies.
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fish, brittanee drexel was last seen wearing black shorts, and the body that was found was wearing jeans—-BUT to Blink’s point, a person can change clothes, that’s for sure.
thanks mosaic, j2k, georgie, et al for explaining the possible Boyd thing. Not sure if or how it plays into the case, but you never know..!