Morgan Harrington Case: Separating Fact From Fiction From Facebook Part II
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Charlottesville, VA– Just passing the month mark, the disappearance of Morgan Harrington from the John Paul Jones Area located on the UVA campus, leaves us with more questions than answers. Part II
The Faces of Her Facebook
Help Find Morgan Harrington was developed by a few concerned individuals interested in spreading the word about Morgan’s disappearance and boasts over 30,000 members. Not all posts are welcome.
In particular, a member by the name of Nelson Kane was recently banned for posting very detailed hypothesis scenarios that sparked a firestorm of interest in the self-appointed athlete scout. His posts were deleted at the request of Law Enforcement who admit tasking two officers with monitoring the web for such activity in Morgan’s case.
Additionally, Mr. Kane reached out to several individuals on facebook as well as the Harrington family’s findmorgan.com site in attempts to speak to the family directly and request an interview. The Harrington’s were made aware of the concern for such requests by sources close to the investigation.
He has recently changed his facebook drastically. 
Mr. Kane, a member of the family owning the longtime furniture store of the same name in Charlottesville is also a UVA alumni and season ticket holder. In addition to UVA, Kane also claims to have attended Virginia Tech on many of his many social networking profiles. He also fancies himself as somewhat of a Rock band critic.
On his site, nkscouting.com which he has maintained 
since 2001, Kane chronicles his trips to scout mostly High School basketball and football athletes. In an effort to make his site more interesting (his words) he details the travel experience, routes, times and in some cases photos of his visits to High Schools mostly within a few hours driving distance.
Very early on in Morgan’s case, blinkoncrime.com explored the idea that perhaps the double murder of VT freshmen David Metzler and Heidi Childs on August 27th should be investigated as a possible link to Morgan’s case simply because they attend the school and Morgan and Heidi bare a remarkable resemblance to one another.
As far as very odd coincidences go, the location of Nelson Kane’s scouting foray the evening of the August 28th could not be more relevant.
Kane scouted the game at Jefferson Forest High School. The very 
School Heidi Childs graduated from a year earlier. Unlike most of Kane’s other journal entries of his athlete accolades, there is no mention of his travel experience to or from Forest High School so it is unclear where he left from, when he got there, or when he returned home.
This is in no way an accusation that Mr. Kane had any involvement whatsoever in such a heinous crime, of course, but given his proclivities for leaving at all hours of the day and night his keen attention to travel detail and familiarity with the area: Perhaps he saw someone or something amiss in his trip that could help investigators.
On Saturday October 17th, Kane scouts a game, listens to the UVA football game on his way home and is home in plenty of time to make the concert.
Blink how do you know he was at the concert you ask? I do not. I do know he knows alot about security at the JPJ Arena, how to navigate the different lots near Uhall, and of course that there are blue portable lavatories next to Lanigan Field. His posts from the Charlottesville Daily Progress below:
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after checking the skyline drive website…i see that there are restrooms available. george, do you know if they were open? i know that big meadows closes theirs esp. since you cannot drive onto skyline but i did read you can walk or website states “hike” into the area. i’m wondering because what if and that is only what if they stopped due to trouble or sickness??? just a thought to check the restrooms and obviously i do not even know if they are far off the drive or exits. can you help me understand area?
Blink, no toll roads out in that part of ol’ Virginny. We have a little toll road near DC, and then there are tolls down in Richmond, but as far as I know, none on the roads in question.
blink: are you guarded because the BF = BG? maybe there was two vechicles taken from jmu. a thought?
no
B
Thanks, B. Points duly taken.
In re: #3, MH was in someone’s car – both alive and perhaps otherwise. I have a hard time fathoming that LE does not know whose vehicle she was in, and even if a lawyerly silence quickly blanketed the direct witnesses and POI(s)… well, nothing really surprises me anymore, but it at least cocks an eyebrow that they didn’t execute a warrant on a single car in this case yet. Or did they?
And in re: #4, I know “runaway” was once considered (very optimistically, imo) a possibility – in theory – but could LE have really believed that? Seriously?? That’s absurd (on their part, if true). I hope whatever caused the seeming delay in the first 48 was not that they (A) believed the ludicrous “just gonna find a ride home” story, or (B) gave credence to the idea she “ran away” (with nothing more than the shirt on her back and heels on her feet) from a hard life as a popular, fun-loving coed with a sweet, supportive family, and decent seats at a Metallica concert.
[head hits keyboard]
No J2, you make a valid point. There has not been any warrants issued on Morgan’s car, which WE KNOW she was in to the concert (per LE) and we cannot rule out she was in at some point after she was out of JPJ. To my knowledge ( and I am pretty confident on this) no warrants were served on any of the immediate friends cars, yet we have all seen Lt. Radar’s circumloqucious remarks about Morgan’s cars relevance as well as the confirmation by Ms. Geller that Morgan was hitchhiking. ( not a criticism, there is a reason why they have stopped doing live pressconf’s).
For me, that translates to “we have a witness who admitted picking her up stating she was HH who say they dropped her off at X, at her request.”
To corroborate, LE asks the friends if Morgan was known to hh because they were told she had. WTH are they going to say? They left her there ( or other) and drove her car to their pad at JMU. Doesnt “yeah that sounds like Morgan” sound better than “Oh my effing God this is our fault.” JMHO, but what other explanation makes sense for the HH thing not surfacing until a month after she is missing?
B
Hi- I live up here in British Columbia, Canada, and have been following your wonderful site, Blink. Impressed with the perceptions and thoughts of the people who post there. In reference to #709 (MsL) and others, I was so frustrated by the vague info. re number of missing women in the Lynchburg area, that I phoned the local newspaper there.Got through to reporter Chris Dumond who has just e-mailed me back and I quote: “Thank you for calling me to-day.We will be publishing an update on our website (www.newsadvance.com) tonight that includes some of the information you referenced. To quickly answer your question, Cassandra Morton and the missing Lynchburg student are two different people. For whatever reason, Lynchburg PD refused to release any information about the LC student this evening, or to confirm that one was missing. However, the missing student was referenced by the sheriff in the jurisdiction where this body was found and we have gotten information from people who knew her. Basically, I don’t have enough to publish her name, but they are two different folks. Thanks again, Chris.”…So, Blink, that’s all he said. Sounds like three young women have gone missing in the C’ville-Lynchburg area, including Morgan, and perhaps the body just found is either Cassandra Morton or the Lynchburg College student. Keep safe, everyone.
I am actually leaning toward the unknown college student.
B
thank you. i am going back to my original theory that Morgan knew this person and was forbidden (or asked not to see him again). they meet up and she was faced with a series of events that she did not expect. possibly a married man? an older man? a man with a bad past? maybe all three plus add money into the equation. hense, why everyone is tight-lipped. as well they should be…as it is an investigation. i would certainly go out and search again no matter what Morgan did or didn’t do that night. no judgement…just love and support for her and her family. i must say, i would now do it for anyone that turned up missing. hopefully it gives the family some peace that we are not all bad and that there are a great deal of us out here who care. my motherly instict is coming out so i hold my own two kids close and keep a Morgan’s flyer in my window.
thank you for responding to my question.
Gosh, catching up reading the posts — the body found is someone’s daughter, and I was thinking it was the other missing girl from 10-10, but if someone abducted Morgan, and kept her alive for a time, it’s certainly plausible she could have changed clothes — or was made to change her clothes.
About the car thing — drawing from my own experience with my own child, unfortunately — ” I ” have a strict rule: no one else in the car when you’re driving and no one else drives the car — I’m thinking for liability reasons — if my child wrecks, then he won’t hurt someone else’s child — plus, I’m thinking insurance reasons — and I have good reason for my rule, which my kid broke. He took a girl home from school and ran into the back of a school bus and wrecked our new SUV we’d had all of a month ! It was repairable, but barely — then the fool did it AGAIN — didn’t wreck this time, but had this time two girls in the car with him and got busted because one of them posted a video on youtube — *maybe* the Harringtons put the same restrictions on Morgan, for whatever reasons, and that’s why Dr. H didn’t believe her car was driven to the venue — and as my daddy used to say about my best friends and me — one of you will lie, and the other will swear to it —
I’ve stated before and I’ll state it again, the main goal for the Harringtons and for LE are separate and distinct. The Harringtons want their daughter back, or worst-case scenario, her remains recovered. LE want to find out what happened to Morgan, but in addition, they want an arrest AND conviction —
I’m sure the Harringtons want whomever is responsible for Morgan’s disappearance prosecuted and convicted, as well — but it’s not first in their minds — above all else, they want their child back –
I do not have prophetic dreams, hence my living in Va. and not on a private island in the Carribbean w/ my multiple lottery wins — but two nights ago I dreamed our local news anchor was reporting that the recently-discovered remains have been positively identified as missing VT student Morgan Harrington. Even subconsciously it was such a disturbing dream I woke up immediately. A huge part of me prays this is not Morgan; another part of me hopes that if this is her outcome, then she can be returned home.
I cannot begin to imagine the hell the Harringtons are going thru right now waiting the results from the coroner.
From the online edition of the Richmond Times-Dispatch newspaper — the article implies the sheriff believes it may be Cassandra — God rest her soul and peace to her family — (when the article says: this afternoon, I believe it is referring to Dec. 1st)
>>Body found on mountain near Lynchburg could be ID’d today
CHRIS DUMOND MEDIA GENERAL NEWS SERVICE
Published: December 1, 2009
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nowBuzz up!Campbell County Sheriff Terry Gaddy said he hopes medical records taken to the medical examiner’s office in Roanoke could yield the identity of a body found on Candlers Mountain near Lynchburg as early as this afternoon.
“We have several people who are missing from the Lynchburg area. Based on the description of clothing one of them was last seen wearing, I have a strong hunch,” Gaddy said of the body, which was found Sunday.
“I’m leaning strongly toward one of those people,” he said.
Gaddy declined to put a name with his suspicions, noting that things could change based on forensic findings. He added that investigators could not even positively identify the body as male or female at the scene because of decomposition. They speculate the remains are those of a woman based on the body’s stature, he said.
Investigators are using dental and other medical records and the help of a forensic anthropologist traveling to Roanoke to help identify the remains, Gaddy said.
“I know it’s horrible for the families of these people that are missing,” he said.
Virginia Tech student and Roanoke resident Morgan Harrington’s disappearance from a Charlottesville concert in October has been widely reported.
Two others have recently been reported missing from Lynchburg, he said.
Cassandra Ann Morton, 23, was last seen in Lynchburg on Oct. 10. A student at Lynchburg College from Pittsylvania County also was reported missing recently, the sheriff said.
Lynchburg Police Department spokesman Capt. Al Thomas said city detectives and county investigators are scheduled to meet this morning.
Yesterday, investigators continued to search the area where the body was found. Soil and items found near the body also have been taken to the medical examiner’s office.
Gaddy said the body was found covered by debris but that it was not buried in the ground.
The body was found around 3:30 p.m. Sunday by a person hiking near Camp Hydaway Road, according to the Sheriff’s Office. Maj. Steve Hutcherson said Sunday that “the body had been there for a while.”
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B… any word yet on if the car has been processed at all? As I mentioned before, they should expect to find prints of the 4 passengers. If they didn’t find any (as if it had been wiped clean), that presents a few more questions.
no, and no plans to.
B
the other day while on google earth ,i decided to pray to god for divination and locate the closest woods,i found my way to county road 317 near thomas jefferson blvd.between the 53 and the 20 off the 64,and dairy barn road is in there too.just a wild guess based on what seemed to me the closest spanse of wooded area.and easy access off freeway(either direction)it seems.and a couple freeways/highways meet.i dont know ,once again just a guess.
Blink-I posted this about an hour ago but it has disappeared so will try again. I contacted a reporter from the Lynchburg NewsAdvance while trying to clear up the confusion in my mind re the number of missing women in the Lynchburg area. His name is Chris Dumond and he e-mailed me back. Quote: “We will be publishing an update on our website(www.newsadvance.com) tonight that includes some of the information you referenced. To quickly answer your question, Cassandra Morton and the missing Lynchburg College student are two different people. For whatever reason, Lynchburg PD refused to release any information about the LC student this evening, or to confirm that one was missing. However, the missing student was referenced by the sheriff in the jurisdiction where the body was found and we have gotten information from people who knew her. Basically, I don’t have enough to publish her name, but they are two different folks. Thanks again, Chris.” That is all he told me. So it looks as though there are three missing women in the C’ville-Lynchburg area: Morgan, Cassandra Ann Morton of Lynchburg and the Lynchburg College woman. I guess we will soon find out if the recently found body near Lynchburg is one of the latter two. You do such a fine job here, Blink, and you have many smart and perceptive “posters”. Be safe, everyone. Rose in Canada.
Thanks for the update Rose- that is bizarre they won’t release the name of a missing person.
B
Discussions have brought up the entrance to the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive off either Rt. 250 or I 64. It should also be pointed out that there several locations to exit the Parkway. Skyline Drive has no exits that I am aware of other than hiking trails and ranger roads from Afton (Rt 250 or I 64) to Elkton (Rt 33.) Both these entrances/exits have Ranager stations, but often times only one will be manned. While I don’t believe the friends are involved in the disappearance, one can exit the Parkway near Roanoke/Salem and continue on to Blacksburg. The Skyline Drive from Afton, has an exit at Elkton Virginia, from there, an easy drive to Harrisonburg. I there is any involvement by the friends, I believe it is only peripheral, perhaps they did know that Morgan was meeting someone. If that is the case, I believe law enforcement would either by now know the name, or the friends do not have a name.
For those who might not recognize my reference to “Afton”, I’m referring to Afton Mountain. Rt 250 and I 64 cross Afton Mountain. At or very near the top of Afton Mountain are the entrances referred to previously by Dakota and other posters to the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive.
Also, SS’s blurting out “…or we wouldn’t have done it” in that early video is probably what got the parents & lawyers to slap duct tape on the mouths of all the kids involved.
Warning: Tangential thought ahead.
In watching the horror of the four fallen LE officers at the hand of Maurice Clemmons, my heart went out to the families of these individuals.
In conjunction with Clemmons’ extensive criminal history, he was recently charged last May with child rape.
I’ve never met Clemmons; however, I do know what it’s like to look into the eyes of a child rapist. In the case I’m referencing, this rapist’s victim was 18 months (yes, months) old.
I also know what it’s like to look into the eyes of her parents.
There are certain visions in this life that remain with one forever.
The above are two of mine.
These visions, and others like them, are the reasons why I am passionate about the pursuit of justice–especially on behalf of those little victims whose voices might otherwise never be heard.
Observer we agree, and I am humbled by your willingess to share such a grotesque experience that undoubtedly shapes your world, and now, ours.
B
I belatedly apologize for the graphic nature of my last post. My intent is not to create disturbing images for readers; there is enough of that already in the media. Rather, it is to provide a framework for my concerns and perspective about the MH disappearance or other such tragedies.
So Blink, in your response to the always insightful and entertaining J2K (#751), you believe that LE possibly knows who gave Morgan a ride to X. So they know where X is, and who lives at X? I would think this info would be very helpful to the public….If someone who either lives or parties at X hasn’t been ratted out by now, maybe they need a little help from the neighbors? Maybe there are one or two people out there who believe they have a friend who has been acting a little weird lately. If they can get some help connecting the dots maybe they’ll call in.
Well, I would venture to say that they know where they were TOLD X is. I am confident if LE had a verifiable destination for Morgan they would have released it.
I could envision a scenario where someone may not wish for LE to know where they may have ended up, nefariously or accidentally ( it cannot be ruled out at this time Morgan did not suffer some sort of impairment through substance or injury consistent with the alleged fall) . Keep this in mind- I keep hearing the BOLO for odd post-offense behavior-
If a person was close to Morgan, regardless of what may or may not have transpired, they are visibly distraught and entrenched as we are; that on the surface is not going to be outwardly “flagged” per se. What will begin to change, is when and hopefully this is already the case, the POI is aware they are one.
B
Hi Blink and greetings to all.
I’ve spent the last day catching up on your sight and really hoped something (anything) new would have come up concerning this case. I’m very sad that another body has been found. That was the last thing I wanted to see. While I am glad LE has said this is not Morgan, I am very sorry for the family that this girl belongs to. She is someone’s daughter, sister, friend. Prayers for this family.
I have thought all along that Morgan had a plan and that a friend or friends knew the plan or at least part of it. Girls do not kiss goodbye before going to the bathroom. It’s more like, “I’ve gotta pee, anybody else gotta go?” And they will all go. At a concert where tickets are bought, they don’t have to worry about saving seats. I do feel that Morgan planned to meet someone and it was someone she knew or knows as the case may be. It’s possible that this person didn’t show or was late and something happened while Morgan waited for that person. This is not my topmost thought. Does anybody else think it’s wierd that when Morgan got to the concert she asked DG who was opening after six months of excitement about this show? From the beginning that statement just reeked of strangeness to me. It was like emphasis was put on the fact that they “were there to see Metallica, right?”. However, if we are to believe what we’ve been told, she was there for the opening bands, but took a chance on leaving the building before the great Metallica took stage? This stinks. I personally do not believe two cars were driven by Morgan’s party. I do think it’s possible that two cars were going to be driven back in separate directions. Since we’ve been led to believe by DS that they were to meet somewhere afterwards and the plan changed because someone (Morgan) was missing, is it possible that SS and possibly her BF (depending on where BF lives) would be going back to JMU with DS’ party? And that Morgan and her roommate, AM, would return to VT in Morgan’s car after spending the night in Charlottesville? This would make sense to me. It would save a lot of time, since Morgan was to be at her parents home for the math test study and checkbook balancing. Since Mr. Harrington reported her missing at 12:30, he must have been expecting her to be there somewhat earlier. After a night of concert going, getting together afterward and perhaps partying (and I don’t know this, just speculating about what kids this age are known to do, heck I did it myself back in the day) that this was the plan? I still think the BFs name is being withheld for a reason. And I will say this, if everybody else’s name had been made public except mine, I’d be a whole lot panicky. (Can I say that?) There must be a good reason for this. Who is this guy and why has DG not had any more to say? Just some thoughts that have nagged me from the “get go”.
Prayers today for Morgan and her family.
perhaps of note, the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive is a stones throw from Crozet where Blink has confirmed there was an extensive police search two or three days after Morgan went missing. straight shot up 250, deserted as hell that time of night
Skyler, thanks for your wonderful posts…when you were driving around the night of the concert, I’m sure you would have noticed parties at the fraternity houses. I know my oldest will meet up with her UVa friends when she comes back into town, and they sometimes go by one to see other friends. Maybe one of these houses has more Metallica/heavy metal fans than the others, or more kids from the Roanoke public schools. There is probably a house where Morgan and her friends had been to before…or at least before this concert. There is even a house around the corner from where you were parked while waiting for your kids, above the turf intramural field. They’ve got something going on all the time, most nights of the week.
Who is BG and HH?
HH – Hitch hiking but what is BG
Bad Guy=BG
Good Guy=GG
Good Guy turned Bad Guy = GG..BG
Just B
Now I am confused… Do we really know how many young missing women are in and around that area?
“Former Lynchburg College student reported missing, now located”
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11597996
Does this mean that there’s only Morgan and CM?
Regarding Cassandra Morton,
snipped from original missing bulletin
“Her family says that she has always maintained regular contact with them and her friends.”
http://www.wset.com/news/stories/1109/677626.html
Makes me wonder if Cassandra Morton is originally a student from out of state, but possible current VA student or related studies in VA.
Blink – Do you think that there is ANY chance that Morgan is still alive? If she was forbidden to see someone, could she have run off with him OR could this individual be obsessed with her and holding her?
I am convinced it was someone she knew, which makes me think that there is a slim, slim chance that she is alive. A random act by a stranger would having me think no way she is still alive but now believing it is someone she new that is responsible may give a small glimmer of hope that she is alive still.
Or am I just having a case of wishfull thinking on that?
I personally do not believe Morgan is alive, no.
B
Hello Blink. 742# so “luck, lawyers, wrong info at first from friends.” If all that is going on how can the parents keep cool about all this. Yes they might be asked to stay clam let them work this all out, but its been a long time now. Why is there so much silence around this case. Not a peep leaking from friends or anyone. Also how does one person (Hate To write this, sorry if harsh) how does one person dispose of a body with out any level as in strange behavior. I just think its all to compact as in all the bad guys are this sleek and this together group and LE are tripping over there own feet. Lawyers I would be outraged if I knew lawyers have all the power, I would run to any media and scream from the rooftop and put that pressure on the POI.
Observer. Your story is less tangential than it is apropos. There is evil in this world and you have seen it incarnate. I am sorry this has touched your life, but am inspired by your intrepid spirit and passionate devotion to justice for the silenced. Grazie bene.
I don’t recall a missing person (in my area anyway) being unidentified by law enforcement, unless they need to notify a family when there has been a body located.I have never heard there was someone missing that they refuse to id.
If someone would care to take a shot at an explanation,I’d love to hear one.
763 NYmom,where did you get that segment of comment by SS ,I would love to get a look/listen.
Blink comment, snipped
“Keep this in mind- I keep hearing the BOLO for odd post-offense behavior-”
fwiw, same sentiment here. Person perhaps is in a somewhat high visibility position, where changes in behavior, attendance or performance could be more easily noticed.
I do not believe that she was at a frat. If they were partying at one of the houses, there would be too many people who would have seen and someone would have reported it by now.
I already posted this in the Part I thread by mistake.
“Comment by lizzy — December 1, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
Lynchburg College “student” was found to be not really missing yesterday.
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11597996
Sounds like she quit school and didn’t tell her mom; that happens fairly often, and until she could be confirmed as missing was probably why her name wasn’t released.”
I have encountered similar situations multiple times. It is so hard to know when to sound the alarm over a student that a parent or professor thinks is missing. And record confidentiality makes it hard to let the parents know the real status/location of their adult children sometimes.
I can no longer find Cassandra Morton on the VSP missing persons/children site. Can you find out anything, Blink? Has she been removed for a reason?
Was she on it in the first place?
B
acho, re 699: My original point was that the caller didn’t seem to “get” that Boyd Tavern is a community, not a place of business. There is the Boyd Tavern Market, true, but the caller does not say that. It just makes me think twice about the veracity of the story and location.
Most locals think of the Boyd Tavern Market, as Boyd Tavern proper. While there is a community there, it is extremely rural, no town or village to speak of. Also, I believe, and some one correct me if I am wrong, the original poster wasn’t the one at the Boyd Tavern Market, they were reporting the sighting second hand, which would explain their lack of familarity with the area.
re 765 localcvillegirl – “If someone who either lives or parties at X hasn’t been ratted out by now, maybe they need a little help from the neighbors?”
And then we have a public lynching of possibly an innocent person?
Missing Lynchburg student no longer missing.
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11597996
So, perhaps this body is Cassandra? To me, the decomposition is too advanced to be Morgan.
To clear up some confusion, both the Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway have mile markers. On the Skyline Drive they start at the north end at Front Royal (MM 0) closest to Washington, DC, and end at MM 120 at Rockfish Gap. Just after MM 120 going south is the manned entrance station at Rockfish Gap, which, like the other entrance stations, requires an entrance fee. In addition to the north and south (Rockfish Gap) entrances on the Skyline Drive there is a manned entrance station at the midpoint where Route 33 goes east from Harrisonburg across the Blue Ridge and intersects with Route 29 north of Charlottesville. The entrance station at the midpoint is manned and also requires a fee to get on the Skyline Drive. You cannot get on any portion of the Skyline Drive, traveling in any direction, without paying a fee.
Is this under Federal control then, or does the VSP patrol it?
Thanks
B
The mile markers for the Blue Ridge Parkway start at Rockfish Gap MM 0 and go over 200 miles south to Cherokee, North Carolina. It is completely free of fees and has many side roads that lead down the mountains on either side of the Parkway.
To Word Girl #769: E grazie bene a lei, for your kind words. The greatest challenge lies in not becoming jaded (and/or feeling sullied) after having dealt over time with the likes of such depraved criminals.
Sadly, the referenced case was not a singular event. [His was just one of many that came to mind.] There were–and are–many more like him preying on unfortunate victims. This is what fuels the energy to continue to bring to justice these morally corrupt individuals.
http://www.wdbj7.com/global/story.asp?s=11597996
This is probably why you can’t find info on the second MP.
The unknown former Lynchburg College student is alive and no longer missing. Her mother filed a MP which later was deemed as “unfounded”. http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11597996
When do we expect the most recent body found to be ID’d?
To sue #771: Yes.
B, I must give you due credit for your ability to squint hard enough to see through the fog shrouding this case, and make out the truths and half-truths floating around.
LE’s “confirmation” of HH indeed implies they’ve spoken with someone or multiple people who have (one would assume) first-hand knowledge of MH’s actions that night in regard to traveling away from the JPJ.
I had not considered that the comfirmation could mean someone actually gave her a ride somewhere… And I guess we can assume that, if true, that person’s car was not searched either.
(VSP = Very Trusting?)
If she got dropped off, I’m guessing it was not at a fraternity or other campus housing because the UVA police are not in charge of/that much involved in the investigation. If it was a private residence or the top of a street, I’d think a house would have been searched by now (or woods in the vicinity).
Of course we can’t be sure, but I doubt LE spoke with someone who actually drove her to a specific location and let her out. I think LE’s assuredness that she was attempting to hitch a ride is either misguided or bogus. And you’re absoltely right – why did it take so long for the HH hypothesis to come out? Even the fairweather friends said she “would get a ride home from FRIENDS in the Charlottesville area.”
That brings up another head-scratcher: If she “told” SS she’d get a ride home from someone in town (and she must know some Very Good Friends there if she believed they would drop plans on a Saturday night to unexpectedly drive her three hours to Blacksburg – where she’d what? break into her apartment? – or the one hour back to JMU – despite the fact that the friends she was with were her contacts there), then why would she be hitch-hiking in the first place? Hitching to a friend’s place in order to get a ride?
In other words, if LE is working backwards from “she was trying to find a way home,” and that’s why they attempted to improbably figure hitch-hiking into the disappearance, then I weep for the outcome of this case.
Those girls (and maybe guy/s) went to the same high school for three years with MH and I assume they have many of the same friends in Cville – why so vague? I think it was hard to hear in that arena, and MH was outside (which must have been shocking) trying to explain that she COULD NOT get back in (as she had been attempting to for 20 minutes or more by the time she spoke with SS, according to the timeline). Her friend admittedly told her to “try some other doors” – this tells me either SS either wasn’t listening or wasn’t hearing very well. MH probably stopped short of asking her friends to come back out(?), but she was likely freaking out a bit (I would be) trying to figure out what to do – while intoxicated – and I think the call basically ended in a question mark that the friends did not give another thought to until the end of the show. I do not for one minute believe they had a coherent conversation with MH – she was basically abandoned outside.
B: “WTH are they going to say? They left her there (or other) and drove her car to their pad at JMU. Doesnt ‘yeah that sounds like Morgan’ sound better than ‘Oh my effing God this is our fault.’ JMHO, but what other explanation makes sense for the HH thing not surfacing until a month after she is missing?”
Exactly. They came out after the concert, couldn’t find her, couldn’t reach her, waited at the car a bit, maybe drove around b/c they had an idea where she might have headed, then headed back to JMU without her. Sorry, select members of The Nine: it sort of IS your effing fault. She organized the outing – buying tix and driving, picking you up – and when she’s outside you brush her off and tell her to try some doors on the side of the building, before hanging up the phone and turning to one another, shrugging. Someone should have spoken with her in person – there was no clear communication or assessment of the sitch over the phone.
I’m not saying this to totally blame the friends – this kind of thing can happen, and it sucks, and I know they must feel terrible.
What I *am* saying is that their perception of events and MH’s intent after leaving the show that night should NOT be what LE pivots the case on. Period.
Hi Blink,
I have a couple of questions, and just thinking out loud here. If LE is pursuing the Boyd Tavern scenatio,
1) the step dad had to have given a description of the “frantic” person inquiring about directions. (assuming Morganis in the car)
2) we have a vehicle as well at Boyds Tavern. This vehicle in all probability could be one of (3) vehicles.
a) Morgans car
b) GF- she drove separately in a diff vehicle to the concert, and Morgan and the others.
c) GG-BG in flight (with Morgan and others) vehicle
Lets assume Morgan was injured, and it was widely reported that she was in fact bleeding. Or, if she was sick inside one of these vehicles, there may have been other body fluids that may have been deposited by Morgan in transit.
My question is: Why wouldn’t a warrant be in order for any or all of these vehicles be executed to at least try to establish some evidence.
*Blood stains can never be erased, not even with bleach. Trace evidence may still exist inside the vehicle used to tranport port Morgan/and or others.
It doesn’t matter if any or all that may be POI have lawyers, the warrant comes from a judge. Just by virtue of retaining a lawyer doesn’t prohibit or forgo a warrant does it? I am boggled why they would be siezing all these cars.
Is LE waiting for confession from the POI to come forward? Are they relying on someone to report someone to be acting “strangely” before they can move forward? I do not understand the silence and one could interperate the silence as not enough evidence, and I do understand that they are width holding some info from public for obvious reasons, but evidence is something they need to secure a suspect, and I feel it may exist inside the vehicle in this scenario put forth.
**Remember, the friends all made it clear early on that the BF drove to the concert, and that Morgan was sitting in the back seat, supposedly studying for a test.
Why would they purposefully put forth that specific seating arrangement of the group and make that known? Just a thought.
#764, Observer: Despair brought by evil’s darkness is lightened by knowing that people like yourself stand by victims and stand up to pursue justice.
george #776: thank you for your clarification. it helped me understand the route.
blink, if it is under federal control…does that mean if something did happen to Morgan on that route and evidence is found…does it make it federal jurisdiction thus, they take over????
(or can they be called in now?)
I sense you are sensing my perked ears. If she were found here, and it could not be proven this was the area an actual crime was committed, but there was evidence she was killed (or died) elsewhere, it would likely fall under VSP and the county Sheriff’s Office where she was recovered; Especially if the area falls under Proprietary Federal Jurisdiction.
If there is evidence the crime or incident took place on land owned under the jurisdiction of NPS vis e vie The Dept of The Interior, The NPS and the FBI lead the investigation and request local support ( think the opposite of requesting the FBI by Local LE).
Exception: Again if the land falls under Proprietary Federal Jurisdiction where a Federal murder statute does not apply, Local LE maintains the investigative burden with NPS and Federal oversight/asisstance.
If it falls under concurrent jurisdiction, it is really a mixed bag as in some cases both Federal and State statues would apply. At that point it is really a joint consideration by the prosecutors.
B
My last response was in reference to sue’s #777 post.
Hi Judi. I too was confused about these ‘abbreviations’. I am 43 years old, and they bother me. Maybe it is a symptom of my age, but they just strike me as counter productive.
I guess I should be grateful that Blink provides us a site free of psychic visions, dreams and a reference to God every ten or so words.
Thanks Blink, praise the lord and all that jazz!!
Forgive the OT. (off topic, Judi)
Skyline Drive falls within the jurisdiction of the Dept. of the Interior with gates manned by park rangers, not VSP. VSP does not routinely patrol Skyline Drive.
Thanks Observer.
So, there is no patrol unit assigned to this area, or is it patrolled by Park Rangers in addition to manning the gates?
Lastly, what are your thoughts on the FB found in Campbell County? I am not seeing given the state of decomp how it could be either Cassandra or Morgan. I understand this is also an RV park. This could be really anyone, no?
B
Thanks for your hints and educated posts, Observer. It is always nice to read your thoughts and be privy to your first hand insight.
Any chance this body could be that of Brittanee Drexel? I followed that case as well until it fell of the media radar and still check for updates.
Brittanee’s case was handled completely differently, again making me think LE knows WHO it is and that they have more info than us as to what happened – Morgan’s case is getting treated by LE less and less like that of a missing person (IMO).