Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Andrea Lyon Shows Her Thought Bubble

Orlando, FL– At a Defense Attorney Peer Lecture in Orlando, Florida last year, the self appointed “Angel of Death Row” lead defense attorney in the case against Casey Anthony for the murder of her daughter Caylee Marie, shows the world her thought bubble, courtesy of Bill Scheaffer, Legal analyst for WFTV.

It is unclear how Mr. Scheaffer attained the recorded audio which has since been removed from the WFTV site, but what is clear is Ms. Lyon knew her segment was being recorded.

..My Client is human, it’s the jury I’m worried about..” ..Sometimes ugly is presiding… or do you have really great judges in Florida?.. “I have a case right now where both the crime and my clients confession are on on videotape.. I just think that’s unfair.. I mean, one or the other, but both?..

 

 

 

I wonder if anyone has asked Alton Logan what he thinks about it?

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  1. Chica says:

    Fillings in the case – PART TWO

    July 16, 2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion for Certification of Timothy Miller as a Material Witness in the Instant Prosecution, or in the Alternative Application for Subpeona for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8661924/Casey-Anthony-memorandum-of-law-Equusearch

    July 16, 2009 Certificate of Materiality of an Out-Of-State-Witness (Tim Miller)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8661916/Casey-Anthony-Tim-Miller-certificate-of-materiality

    July 16, 2009 Brief in Support of Defendant’s Motion to Bar Privileged Testimony of Mr. Leonard Padilla, Mr. Tony Padilla, Ms. Tracy MClaughlin, and Mr. Rob Dick (Statement of Facts)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8661900/Casey-Anthony-bar-information-from-Leonard-Padilla

    July 16, 2009 Brief in Support of Defendant’s Motion to Bar Privileged Testimony of Mr. Leonard Padilla, Mr. Tony Padilla, Ms. Tracy McLaughlin, and Mr. Robert Dick (Table of Exhibits)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8661906/Casey-Anthony-D-team-Privacy-agreement-Bounty-hunter

    July 22, 2009 Letter from Jerry Jackson
    http://dgator.com/Documents/July%2022,%202009%20Letter%20Jerry%20Jackson.pdf

    August 20, 2009 Letter, Mark NeJame to the State Attorney and Baez Law Firm
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10164839/Casey-Anthony-Letter-from-Mark-NeJame

    August 20, 2009 Response to Defendant’s Motion to Certify Timothy as a Material Witness in the Instant Prosecution, or in the Alternative Application for Subpeona Duces Tecum for Documents in Possession of Texas Equusearch
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10164842/Casey-Anthony-d-team-Material-witness-Tim-Miller

    August 21, 2009 Renewed Motion to Compel Bench Notes, Standards, Data, and Communications with Law Enforcement, Et Al
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10175491/Casey-Anthony-Defense-team-91-page-motion-20Aug09

    August 21, 2009 Amended Response to Motion to Set Trial Date
    http://dgator.com/Documents/August%2021,%202009%20Amended%20Response%20to%20Motion%20to%20Set%20Trial%20Date.pdf

    August 24, 2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
    http://dgator.com/Documents/Notice%20of%20Provision%20of%20Supplemental%20Discovery%208.24.09.pdf

    August 24, 2009 Supplemental State Witness List
    http://dgator.com/Documents/August%2024,%202009%20Supplemental%20State%20Witness%20List.pdf

    August 24, 2009 Defendant’s Supplemental Reply to State’s Motion for Determination of New Trial Date
    http://dgator.com/Documents/August%2024,%202009%20Defendant%27s%20Supplemental%20Reply%20to%20State%27s%20Motion%20for%20Determination%20of%20New%20Trial%20Date.pdf

    August 27, 2009 Order Denying Motion for Protective Order and To Bar Privileged Testimony of Mr. Leonard Padilla. Mr. Tony Padilla, Ms. Tracy McLaughlin, and Robert Dick
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10465536/Casey-Anthony-Judge-DENIED-Motion-on-Padilla-27aug09

    September 2, 2009 Order on The State’s Motion for Determination of New Trial Date (Fraud Case)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10716892/Casey-Anthony-fraud-trial

    September 10, 2009 State of Florida’s Motion to Compel Reciprocal Evidence
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11091752/Casey-Anthony-state-wants-names-of-searcher-with-PROOF

    September 11, 2009 Plaintiff’s New Motion to Compel Dominic Casey’s Appearance at Deposition and Motion for Sanctions
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11239305/Casey-Anthony-ZFG-new-motion-to-compel-D-Casey

    September 17, 2009 Amended Motion for Change of Venue
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11483988/Defense-change-of-venue

    September 17, 2009 Motion to Dismiss Due to Spoliation of Evidence and September 17, 2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion to Dismiss Due to Spoliation of Evidence
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11483987/Defense-team-Dismissal-of-evidence-Evidence-contaminated

    September 17, 2009 Defendant’s Motion for a Protective Order Directing Orange County County Jail to Destroy Videos of Family Visits and Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion for a Protective Order Directing Orange County Jail to Destroy Videos of Family Visits
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11483986/Jail-videos-to-be-distroyed

    September 17, 2009 Defendant’s Motion for a Protective Order Prohibiting Orange County Jail from Videotaping Attorney Visits
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11483983/NO-video-taping-of-attorney-and-client

    September 17, 2009 Response to State of Florida’s Motion to Compel Reciprocal Discovery
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11483980/Defense-Response-to-states-wanting-of-discovery-evidence

    September 30, 2009 Motion to Preclude the Death Penalty Procedures
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12356540/Casey-Anthony-Defense-Preclude-the-Death-Penalty-30Sept09

    September 30, 2009 Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment Against Casey Marie Anthony
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12356537/Casey-Anthony-defense-team-dismiss-murder-child-abuse-30Sept09

    October 5, 2009 State of Florida’s Motion to Strike Defendant’s Legally Flawed Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment Against Casey Marie Anthony
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12630287/Casey-Anthony-STATE-of-FL-vs-Anthony-flawed-motion-to-dismiss

    October 6, 2009 Order on State’s Motion for Transcription of Grand Jury Testimony
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12693640/Casey-Anthony-Judge-order-to-let-out-grand-jury-testimony-of-George-Anthony

    October 6, 2009 Addendum to Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment Against Casey Marie Anthony
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12770833/Casey-Anthony-Addedum-to-the-motions-by-the-defense-team

    October 8, 2009 Response to Motion to Preclude the Death Panalty Procedures
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13088318/SA-Response-To-Motion-To-Preclude-The-Death-Penalty-Procedures

    October 9, 2009 Motion for Change of Venue (Fraud Trial) Exhibits in Support of Defendant’s for Change of Venue – October 9, 2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion for Change of Venue
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13093619/Motion-For-Change-Of-Venue—Fraud-Trial

    October 9, 2009 Motion in Limine to Exclude Evidence of Alleged Prior Bad Acts
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13099942/Motion-In-Limine-to-Exclude-Alleged-Prior-Bad-Acts

    October 9, 2009 Defendant’s Reply to State’s Response to Motion to Dismiss Due to Spoliation of Evidence
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13115485/Casey-Anthony-Defense-response-to-dismiss

    October 9, 2009 Defendant’s Motion in Limine to Preclude the Introduction of any Evidence relating to Miss Anthony’s Murder Casey – Exhibits in Support of Defendant’s Motion – Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13098974/Motion-In-Limine-To-Preclude-Introduction-of-Evidence-frm-Murder-Trial

    October 9, 2009 Motion for Jury Questionnaire (Fraud Trial)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13097020/Motion-for-Jury-Questionaire-(Fraud-Trial)

    October 9, 2009 Jury Information Sheet (Fraud Trial)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13097241/juror-questionaire-(Fraud-Trial)

    October 9, 2009 Motion for Individually Sequestered Jury Voir Dire
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13096875/Motion-For-Individually-Sequestered-Jury-Voire-Dire

    October 9, 2009 Motion for Admission to Appear Pro Hac Vice
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13091969/Motion-For-Admission-To-Appear-Pro-Hac-Vice

    October 9, 2009 Motion to Modify Order Compeling Access to Crime Scene Photographs for Defense Experts
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13087553/Motion-To-Modify-Order-Compelling-Access-To-Crime-Scene-Photos-For-Defense-Experts

    October 16, 2009 Order on State of Florida’s Motion to Strike Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of The Indictment Against Casey Marie Anthony
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13299642/Casey-Anthony-Judge-motion-to-STRIKE-dismissal

    October 16, 2009 Motion to Strike Notice of Deposition and Motion for Protective Order
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13462032/Casey-Anthony-DCasey-motion-no-questions

    October 19, 2009 Order on Motion to Dismiss and Stay Proceedings (ZG Case)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13459213/Casey-Anthony-stay-for-defamation-case-ZFG

    October 20, 2009 Notice of Taking Deposition Upon Oral Examination (Roy Kronk)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13509142/Casey-Anthony-attorney-to-question-Roy-Kronk

    October 27, 2009 Predetermination Hearing Decision, Notice of Termination (Roy Kronk)
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/14174716/Casey-Anthony-Roy-Kronk-firing

    November 23, 2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion in Limine to Introduce Prior Bad Acts and other Circumstantial Evidence Pertaining to Roy M. Kronk
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/16998359/Casey-Anthony-defense-support-Kronk-Motion

    November 23, 2009 Motion to Modify the Court’s Order on Defendant’s Application for Subpeona Duces Tecum fro Documents in the Possession of of Texas Equusearch
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/17230337/Casey-Anthony-defense-wants-more-records-from-TES-Motion-Nov-23-2009

    November 25, 2009 Motion To Dismiss Counts 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, For Violation of Double Jeopardy clause
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21787438/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion For Jury Instructions Correctly Defining “Premeditation”
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion to Declare & 921.141 Florida Statutes Unconstitutional Because It Improperly Shifts Burdens Of Proof To The Defendant, Thereby Creating a Presumption of Death
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921.141 Unconstitutional Due To Its Failure To Narrow The Scope of The Death Penalty
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum of Law In Support Of Motion To Declare Florida Statute 921.141 Unconstitutional Due To Its Failure To Narrow The Scope of The Death Penalty
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion To Prohibit Any Reference To the Jury’s Role At the Penalty Phase Being ‘Advisory’ Or To The Jury’s Penalty Verdict As Being A ‘Recommendation’
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion To Declare &921.141(5) Unconstitutional Facially And As Applied (Victim Vulnerable Due To Age, Disability, Or Familial Or Custodial Authority
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum of Law In Support Of Defendant’s Motion To Prohibit Any Reference To The Jury’s Role at the Penalty Phase Being ‘Advisory’ or to the Jury’s Penalty Verdict As Being a “Recommdation’
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Exhibits in Support of Motion to Prohibit Any Reference To The Jury’s Role at the Penalty Phase Being ‘Advisory’ or to the Jury’s Penalty Verdict As Being a “Recommdation’
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum of Law In Support of Motion to Declare &921.141(5)(M) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied (Victim Vulnerable Due To Age, Disability, or Familial or Custodial Authority)
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum Accompanying Motion For Jury Instructions Correctly Defining “Premeditation”
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Defendant’s Motion For A Statement of Particulars Providing Notice of Aggravating Circumstances
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum of Law In Support of Defendant’s Motion For A Statement of Particulars Providing Notice of Aggravating Circumstances
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion To Declare Florida Statute Section 921.141 Unconstitutional Under Ring V Arizona
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion to Delcare Section 921.141(5)(d) Florida Statute and/or THe Section 921.141(5)(d) Standard Instruction Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied And to Preclude Their Application at Bar
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum of Law In Support of Defendant’s Motion to Declare Florida Statute Section 921.141 Unconstitutional Under Ring V Arizona
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum of Law In Support of Motion To Declare &921.141 Florida Statutes Unconstitutional Becuase it Improperly Shifts Burdens of Proof To The Defendant, Thereby Creating a Presumption of Death
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion to Declare Florida Stature 921.141(5)(L) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied and to Preclude its Use In the Case at Bar
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memorandum of Law In Support of Defendant’s Motion To Declare Florida Stature 921.141(5)(L) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied and to Preclude its Use In the Case at Bar
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion To Declare Fla. Stat.921.141(5)(h) and/or the Standard (5)(h) Jury Instruction Unconstituional Facially and as Applied
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Memo Supporting Motion To Declare Fla. Stat.921.141(5)(h) and/or the Standard (5)(h) Jury Instruction Unconstituional Facially and as Applied http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    November 25, 2009 Motion to Declare Florida Statutes 921.141(5)(I) Unconstituional and to Preclude Its Use In The Present Case
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21763533/detail.html

    December 4, 2009 Response to Defense Motion
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21869179/detail.html

    THE END I THINK WE SHOULD SAVE THESE TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE MOTIONS :

  2. Chica says:

    blink dont shoot me but I thought it was good to know!!!

  3. Wendy says:

    #340 Todd in Tulsa….

    I totally agree that no one will be able to get past the 31 days, I truly believe that will be the one thing that hangs Casey. As soon as that is told to the jury, whether they have heard it or not prior, that will be it for them. Everything after that will be a moot point, a way to give a defendant a trial, the way the justice system is set up to do, although it will all be for nil’ in my opinion. I’m not sure other than just listening and finding the rest of it interesting, there would really be nothing more I need to hear.

    My point of this comment was really about the 911 call. If you’ve heard the part where Casey speaks, I may be repeating myself, but just in case…..If you think you she sounded cold and uncaring in that part of the audio….did you, or have you not yet heard the audio of the moment right before Cindy handed her the phone. Cindy says to Casey, “they want to speak to you,” and with the snottiest, coldest, and most callous sounding reply, Casey says….”I have nothing to talk to them.” You should listen it to it. You can find it on youtube, just look search under “the part of the 911 call never heard,” …..or, “a piece of the 911 call we didn’t hear.” If you’ve heard it already, sorry for the repeat, but if you haven’t, you’ll find it quite interesting I believe. Those are the things that will hang Casey. Not to mention, as someone already has…Casey NEVER called 911, she NEVER reported her daughter missing, and she NEVER would have, had she not gotten caught. July 15/16/17 was the end of Casey’s organized chaos.

  4. Kleat says:

    Re: the subpoenas for the Anthony’s and Brad Conway idea, Mr. Hornsby checked to see if any subpoena was actually filed and posted:

    “… the clerk’s docket does not show courtesy copies of the subpoenas having been filed, so I question whether they were actually subpoenaed to testify.

    The reason being is that a subpoena is not a prerequisite to being allowed to testify; rather, a subpoena is only required to compel a reluctant or uncooperative witness to testify.

    This means that Jose Baez could verbally request their agreement to testify – and they say yes.

    So, the reports of George, Cindy, and Brad being subpoenaed could actually just be reporters inferring they must have been subpoenaed because Baez said they would be testifying.

    I suspect Baez wants them to testify about how humiliating/traumatic their interviews being shown is on them, etc.”

  5. Kleat says:

    I wonder though, why Baez would not subpoena the Anthony’s anyway at Brad’s suggestion, to protect his clients from whatever consequences might come out of the cross.

  6. Randie says:

    Wendy,

    Astute comment!

    Now, let’s add to that, what so many others have said:

    Since Casey supposedly feared the kidnappers and says she COULDN’T tell everything she knew…… Well….Caylee has been found, now she can talk, and yet still doesn’t….

  7. Randie says:

    Also, lest we forget Casey’s own famous quote:

    CASEY ANTHONY: I am going to just walk away right now, because I am frustrated and I’m angry, and I don’t want to be angry. This is the first time I have truly been angry this entire time.

    But I’m so beyond frustrated with all of this that I can’t even swallow right now. It hurts.

    (As so many before me have said: A mother of a kidnapped child would be a raging violent mother Bear from the begining.)

    This Casey comment is strange:

    CINDY ANTHONY: I understand.

    CASEY ANTHONY: No, you don’t, because you are still asking me if there is anything I can tell you that can help, that I am the one that can do this. I can’t.

    The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped.

    (The opportunity? What opportunity? Are there any Blinkers that had previously caught this? What might it mean?)

    Then there is Cindy’s famous comment:

    CINDY ANTHONY: You will be fine once Caylee is found.

    Well………………..she has been found.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480148,00.html

  8. Kleat says:

    My bet, Ms. WrongWray will reveal something on Geraldo that has not yet been revealed publicly, but which has been hinted at already in her videos.

    Does Geraldo have the scoop on this and is that the carrot offered to him to get JWW on his show? There are clear hints by Ms. WW in recent video statements and text that she could add ‘someone seen going into the woods’ to the ‘photos’ and ‘video’ to prove Casey could not have placed the body in the woods.

    That’s coming next, just my bet.

    Kleat, Geraldo is tight with Baez. How tight, imo, will absolutely be learned in the very near future.
    B

  9. Marcy says:

    Kleat, #354: Your quote of Hornsby: “I suspect Baez wants them to testify about how humiliating/traumatic their interviews being shown is on them, etc.”

    My comment: Boo-hoo. What has this to do with the case? This case is not for the convenience of Cindy & George Anthony or to shield their feelings. The power Cindy thinks she wields is beyond my ken.

  10. Marcy says:

    It appears to me that this barrage of motions is just to harass the state. Anyone here with enough legal smarts to tell me if I’m correct?

  11. angela_nw says:

    Randie #357 : “The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped.”

    I believe during this entire visit KC was “beyond frustrated” because nobody was letting her out of jail. I think she figured if she was at home she could have gone on the computer – IMO worked on her “Zenaida” site and various other diverting activities that she considered helping – to her own cause of course. “The opportunity was there” meaning if they had let her stay at home.

  12. Marcy says:

    Angela, #361: That is exactly what I thought. “If you guys would let me out of this mean old jail I could be doing things to help [me].”

    Also, when Casey says on one of the jailhouse tapes, “What am I supposed to learn from this [about being there in jail]?” makes it sound like she thinks she’s just been put on restriction until she can act like a good girl. Anyone else think this?

    Considering she was 22 yrs old, the depth of Casey’s immaturity is astounding.

  13. ada says:

    Hey Chica
    I tried to count all the motions, which I didn’t do very successfully but I know there are over 130!

  14. Chica says:

    wasnt casey wearing an ankle bracelet to monitor her whereabouts?

    and when she was out on bail (when tracy) was in the home watching her!! what did she do than? didnt she just want to hang out?

    what I find strange is : casey ran leonord padilla out of her home? she said ” get out of my house”
    and as usual the anthonys didnt step up and confront her. didnt cindy try to talk padilla into not revoking the bond after he left the home?
    see just goes to show casey got what casey wanted.
    soon casey may get what she didnt want
    THE NEEDLE!!

    did u all read that a man in ohio was executed last night or this morning actualy ?
    anyways all the 911 calls and the fact she didnt report caylee will go against her. The jury will have all eyes on her demeanor in court. casey is casey she will screw up.

  15. Chica says:

    ada
    omg I wondered how BAEZthere were dern he went crazy with motions

    WE ALL ARE MOTION SICKNESS

  16. Kleat says:

    Blink, is Jim L. now free-lancing it, or is he affiliated with some other media corp?

    It’s notable that the JWW had ‘Zanny Gonzalez’ on the photo of Mr. Morgan’s client with the arm tattoo showing. This is not all JWW, Mort telling JWW that her photos ‘prove’ there was no body, is no accident– the guy has an MA, the assistant to Ms. Lyon’s has psych in her undergrad degree, they have a nice little tool to use to do their dirty work for Casey– all just public ‘spin’ with a ton of distraction.

    Geraldo will then not ask one probing question of his own– he has a script to follow? We’ll soon see, as you say.

  17. suz says:

    Randie, no no no, Casey still can’t talk. Don’t forget, zanny threatened not only Caylee’s life, but the whole family. Casey talked to the cops, and sure enough Caylee ended up dead. This proves that zanny means business, and would not hesitate to kill more of the Anthonys.

  18. lou says:

    This man who was executed received only one drug…..what is was I dont know but supposingly it wasnt painful but took a longer time to die than the usual three drugs given

  19. ada says:

    #367 I guess Zanny is psychic too! She killed Caylee before July 15, when Cindy called the police. I guess that explains why the Anthonys are in the public spotlight so often, to ward off murder attempts by the Zanny. lol

  20. Chica says:

    oh my!!!!! HERE GOES

    omg suz
    your killing me lol
    is that why they have her in portective custody?
    omg I never though of that before.
    they have to make sure that the killer doesnt get to casey before she can say what realy happened makes sense
    snark
    we all need a good laugh once in a while.

  21. C.Boyle says:

    IMHO the judge should release the video tape of Casey reacting to “a” body found in the woods by her parents house. It would do two things right now that Bozo would not like. Make Casey look even more guilty and remove any suspicion they are trying to pin on Roy Kronk! Truly! Doesnt the judge have to release this information according to those Sunshine Laws??? And if not, why would Florida bother having them in the first place????
    Come on Strickland!

  22. Chica says:

    BLINK
    Omg please delete
    I am stuttering. I have problems with my puter it says duplicate comment so coocoo me redoes it and lo and behold I get three
    I am so sorry!!!

    to much cofee here I think makes me maniac lol

    anyways have a good day
    proud blinker
    chica

  23. Chica says:

    http://www.wftv.com/news/21897578/detail.html

    County Files Response To Casey’s Defense Request
    Posted: 12:38 pm EST December 8, 2009
    Updated: 1:21 pm EST December 8, 2009

    ORLANDO, Fla.– Orange County, which runs the jail, says Casey Anthony should not get special treatment. The county filed court papers Monday, responding to her defense team’s request that she not be videotaped without audio when she meets with her lawyers at the jail.

    Also, that previous videotapes should be destroyed and that those public records are not disclosed.

    The county says it has the legal right to have security video at the jail and does not have the legal right to destroy or withhold public records.

    Jail security is one of five issues that will be heard at Casey’s court hearing on Friday morning.

    Orange County’s Response to above Order and Motion (12/7)
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21897650/detail.htm

  24. Boz says:

    I’m sure by now someone has asked this but what the heck. KC received traffic tickets in 03 and 04 and none after that in Orange County. ZG got one in 2002 then one 12/15/04, 1/10/05, two on 6/22/06, and two on 5/24/08 in OC, Fl.

    I received a traffic ticket in Orange County in 2008. The ticket is longer than a receipt from Publix and has EVERYTHING on it. The model of my car, the color of my car, my tag number, my birthdate and my license number.

    My questions: To our knowledge, has anyone checked any of this ticket info for ZG with anything that can be connected to the Anthony’s? Do you think the arresting officers have been interviewed to make an ID on KC? Could there be dashboard video of at least the 5/24/08 tickets?

    Just wondering.

  25. Chica says:

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-casey-anthony-book-20091208,0,4983140.story
    Authors, publishers aim to cash in on Casey Anthony

    By Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel

    10:33 a.m. EST, December 8, 2009

    On the glossy cover of the book Sun Struck, Casey Anthony’s mug shot is sandwiched between convicted child killers John Couey and Joseph Smith.

    SNIPPED

    “Let’s face it, the 15 minutes of fame has shrunk to 15 seconds,” she said. “With so much going on . . . consumers move on quickly.”

    Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735.

  26. Kleat says:

    WHO took the photograph of JWW at a hearing in which the photographer photographs a woman said to be JWW? (source 0:43 minutes on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDJWo8rUDpM)

    Photo is not candid, no chance. It is planned ahead of time with the “People’ cover ‘WHAT HAPPENED TO CAYLEE?’ with the full ‘poster’ face of Caylee in a pensive expression. Text-over message reads: ‘What does Joy Wray Know? Did she see someone in the woods before Caylee was Found?”

    This little video was posted by ‘jwnews7′ with the tagline “Joy Is having another meeting Monday at 10 am with Sgt Allen and Yuir on 12/7/09″.

    Note that Joy does not have her own computer– it’s still in the ‘cop shop’ being ‘pryed for more information’ and to have its ‘evidence destroyed’! So, who is helping her create and post her ‘jwnews7′ videos?

    Who is helping set up the photo shoot including this photo preview of what Joy will probably tell Geraldo, about the ‘someone in the woods’.

    We know two of the searchers in the area as per the defense’s motion for all TES records, we know JWW was there long before TES ever was in the area, we know that Mr. Williams was there with shovel in hand and that he took a bag of toys, shoes clothes to Cindy, who rummaged through it before discounting it, followed by William’s apparently tossing the bag back in the woods.

    WHO IS THE MYSTERY PHOTOGRAPHER. Convenient, a little too convenient– I think there will be photos by the same photographer & co. who may have been near Suburban to take a photo of someone going into those woods.

    Someone like Mr. Williams perhaps? Someone who might have prompted the Globe cover photo of the man with the shovel and bag?

    Mr. Kronk is not the ultimate target, or is he? Or is it Mr. Williams, or Ms. Zanny Gonzalez in the JW video, or is it some unknown person, such as JW’s husband who was charged with child abuse?

    ————

    Blink, this is aside– but in December 2007, Joy Wray was with her husband when they were apparently caught in some carjacking/gunfire exchange, then they got a nice gift from someone for all that they went through.

    Interestingly enough, the same couple were chased in a car during the Casey Anthony fiasco, police report (apparently), but no one could find the vehicle although its tag numbers were reported. A police friend of the ‘victim’ made sure she got home alright. Either this was a protestor protesting about the idea of ‘Caylee is Alive’ signage, or it is press, or more likely, someone from the Casey Anthony camp, a PI, or ‘undercover friends’ like Mr. Jim Campbell etc. Or the notorious badge wearing Milstone.

    Did this 2007 event actually happen, did the police actually leave a nice gift on their doorstep around Christmas time for what the Wray’s went through? Strange.

    It did.
    B

  27. Kleat says:

    (defense will present an ‘eye-witness’ for their case vs no eyewitness to the state’s lack of evidence and ‘only circumstantial’ case).

  28. ada says:

    #375

    Boz, I remember way back when Maura investigated all this and found no connection (she’s very thorough and reliable). However, I have always thought that Casey had a fake ID (maybe she found it) so she could go ‘clubbing’ before she was 21. I think the ID was Zenaida’s driver’s license. I thought that the ID that Cindy took out of Casey’s purse when Lee witnessed it was Zenaida’s old license. LE took it from Cindy.

  29. martha says:

    Kleat—is the defense going to present an eyewitness this friday?–re: comment above. thanks,

  30. Boz says:

    Thanks SuzeeB and ada. According to the info on the OC Clerk of Court records TODAY the info in that scaredmonkeys report is way off. The conclusion you can draw from the current info is ZG and AD were not together when those tickets were issued on 5/24/08. ZG’s tickets were operating a vehicle without a valid driver’s license and failure to yield. AD’s ticket was seat belt not warn by driver. They both could not have been driving.

    I know I’m hashing over old stuff but I’d love to know the make and tag number of the car ZG was driving back then.

  31. Kleat says:

    martha, I wasn’t suggesting that, can’t imagine why they would do that as the deadline isn’t until the new year re: that issue.

    The ‘witness’ has just been posting on her various YouTube’s, the question about seeing someone, was there. I do think that photo of the People mag, is a hint of the People magazine role in the future, the ‘witness’ showed the People reporter’s business card to the video camera and claimed she talked to him after the hearing Oct 16th. This is like writing a story or a play, setting the scene. I think for this ‘witness’, Act 2 Part 1 will begin next weekend on Geraldo.

    The defense has laid the groundwork for this second witness entry into their play– enter witness now as eyewitness. But I’m speculating, based on the little ‘clues’ this witness has been a party to.

  32. martha says:

    Kleat, now i know who and what you are talking about in regards to a “witness”. Thanks for the extra info.

  33. Todd in Tulsa says:

    How can the defense even be taken seriously anymore? Absurd motion after motion, not to mention the numerous accusations they have pointed to. Do they believe they can wipe the ‘nanny’ accusation slate clean, as though it never happened, since it didn’t work out for them, as well as the Jesse Grund, Roy Kronk, and I’m sure I’m missing a few more?!? What’s Baez doing, paying people off the street to say Casey didn’t do it? Does Baez think he can push the redo button, and believe that the 31 day gap of reporting a child missing, while his guilty client, in her words, was “frantically doing her own investigation”, but the only investigating she did was to the local tattoo parlor, the nightclubs, and some obscure parking lot so she could have some personal relief one-on-one time with the pavement? I consider what he is doing now, along with all of Cindy’s, George’s, and Joy Wray’s actions, a complete and utter disgrace to what they are doing to the very memory and livelyhood of the one and only one, true victim in all of this, that will, thanks to her narcissistic, sociopathic mother, never get the chance to experience life, not to mention what all kids at that age need and deserve, a loving and supportive family, in which he/she doesn’t have to worry whether or not if they’re going to eat that night, or if they can feel safe when they go to sleep at night in their bed. These things should be a given, along with not wondering who they may be pawned off of this or that night, and while I type this, who else comes to mind is Shanyia Davis, whose mother sold her out. And it’s trial lawyers who are like magnets to cases like this, not that they care about the substance of the case, but the notoriety.

  34. Demi says:

    Is anyone else hoping along with me that the good Judge will slap a gag order on them? Do you think there’s any possibility?

    No, there is no motion for one, and his Honor has ruled on the issue.
    B

  35. Chica says:

    http://www.wftv.com/news/18343056/detail.html

    Anthonys Spend Christmas Without Caylee, Plan To Keep Donating Toys

    Posted: 7:44 am EST December 23, 2008Updated: 6:28 pm EST December 25, 2008

    I was just thinking and well, I wonder how much of the blood money they will use to give gifts to needy children this year in Caylee’s honor.. Last year,those “gifts” were purchased by others and put on site as a memorial tribute to Caylee, so well Anthony’s.. put your blood money where your mouth is. You used that money to give yourselves a cruise, so what about those needy children you claimed you would continue to donate gifts to?

  36. Chica says:

    Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case
    Why are they doing this and what do these motions mean?

    http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/why-are-they-doing-this-and-what-do-these-motions-mean/#comments

  37. Word Girl says:

    Kleat,
    Just a quick response to a couple points in your “who is photog” post, 3:40pm.

    The pensive photo of Caylee, I believe, was posed by Cindy. It also looks as if the television is on in some of the shots. The pose, with the little hand under chin, is similar to some of my own baby pictures.

    I think it was Cindy’s attempt to recreate photos from that time period (her own). Could it be that photographers still use that pose? With my kids, no.

    Anyway, I think she is watching a dvd, not being pensive.

  38. Word Girl says:

    Sry. Here’s the link to that reference cover.
    http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20215765,00.html

  39. dee says:

    This post by Bill Sheaffer, is another why I would like to see Casey get LWOP, lock her up throw away the key and be done with it!

    Kleat or someone can you explain what the appeal process for LWOP is it as confusing as a Death Sentence Appeal?

    http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/why-are-they-doing-this-and-what-do-these-motions-mean/#comments

    “Should Casey Anthony be convicted of first degree murder of her little girl, and, should she be sentenced to death, her appeal automatically bypasses the usual appellate route taken by non-death penalty criminal cases. Instead of an appeal of her conviction and sentence being filed with the intermediate appeals court, i.e. the Fifth District Court of Appeals, it would go instead, directly to the Florida Supreme Court, the ultimate court of appeals in the State of Florida. Should she lose the appeal in the Florida Supreme Court, her appellate lawyers would next appeal her conviction and sentence directly to the United States Supreme Court. For our international readers, that is the highest court in the U.S. But the United States Supreme Court has the discretionary ability to decide whether to hear Casey’s appeal, or to refuse to do so, without giving a reason. Should she lose in the United States Supreme Court, Casey’s lawyers would then return to the original trial court in Orlando, Orange County, Florida and file a postconviction motion for relief (also referred to as collateral relief) which would include, among other things, an attack upon the competency of her trial attorneys.

    Should she lose on that motion, she would return to the Florida Supreme Court to appeal its denial. Again, should she lose that appeal, its back to the United State Supreme Court. So, if you are still with me at this point, if she is rejected by the United States Supreme Court, her lawyers would start seeking her postconviction remedies in the United States federal court system. This postconviction process would continue on until either Casey won, or, was executed. I won’t go into the particulars of the post conviction process in the federal court system. To do so would be mind numbing, even for you University of South Florida students following this blog. Suffice it to say the post conviction process can, and usually does, take years and years.”

  40. dee says:

    Kleat…Where was Joy(less) a year ago? Isn’t she a day late and a dollar short?

  41. Joan (Canada) says:

    Orlando Sentinel is say there will be a doc dump today. 30 pages or so.

  42. Joan (Canada) says:

    over at the hinkymeter, he gives a good accounting of the laptop found at Tony Lazarro’s that Lee picked up. Interesting how Lee has changed his stories.

  43. NoseyRosey says:

    Randie (Post 357). Things that make you go Hmmmmm! That video spoke volumes to me with not only Casey, but George and Cindy as well. A few other things that stuck out for me was when they brought up that Jose was in New York and Cindy told Casey “In his absence Dominic is a good person if you want to talk to anybody”. Why Dominic? Because Cindy needed more information on exactly wher Caylee’s body was? Then she follows with (refering to Jose again) “I just hope he’s telling you what you’re up against”.
    Casey follows with “Mom, I know what I’m honesty up against. Do you guys know what I’m honestly up against?” “And keeping me here….you’re not helping me help myself….I’m sorry to say that”
    I have a feeling Cindy thought (in a moment or rage) sending Casey to jail would be temporary and she would learn something from it. It wasn’t until later she realized she wasn’t in control for the first time in her life.
    Cindy knew Casey was wrong and she knew something terrible had happened to Caylee because of Casey so she punished her.
    And one last thing- which is another “unmotherly” comment in my opinion was Casey told her parents the FIRST time she broke down was on Caylee’s Birthday
    Casey-”hearing about the fact that mom was making chili and there was probably people at the house” NOT THAT HER BABY WAS POSSIBLY ALONE AND SCARED on her birthday, but because the Anthony’s were having people over and eating chili!!!!! I know that alot of people feel that the 31 days are going to be a turning point for the jury, but I think Casey’s lack of concern for her child after the fact is going to assure the jury the baby was already dead and Casey knew it!

  44. Kleat says:

    dee, yeah, but my question to Joy Wray would be WHY is she not worried like Casey was, about speaking out? According to Casey, that kidnapper had serious threats to Casey to keep her from going to the police, is Joy being threatened too, and is she also afraid of her own children being kidnapped and harmed?

    Joy has now put Abigail’s face on YouTube for a song and dance together. Why isn’t she seriously concerned about her daughter’s safety? Forget the ‘real kidnapper/killer still out there’ idea, she has advertised her daughter’s face all over YouTubedom in a high profile case. Has she heard of whacko’s and copycats? The latest video shows Joy Wray is not worried about a real killer out there, she knows she is lying for ‘justice for Caylee’ for other reasons. (Abigail and Joy sing ‘say what you’ve got to say’)

    There’s big money in photos from this case. How much should Joy expect to reap from People and Geraldo, and of course, there’s Globe followup on the same ‘person in woods’. Joy is going to be rich beyond her wildest dreams. But what good mother risks her children in this way for her own selfish reasons?

    Joy Wray should ask herself, WHY did the defense not put her sworn statement with the other two in the motion to get TES records? Because they know she will NEVER be called to promote these lies.

  45. Kleat says:

    SuzeeB, someone has dug him up for their dog and pony show. Does a clerk of the court accept such a version of a motion? Since when is Casey Anthony joined in defense with anyone else, is Ms. Lyon allowing her ex-client to make himself look guilty by association and with knowledge of why the child was taken and killed?

  46. Kleat says:

    dee, for your legal questions, I’m not a legal eagle.

  47. Kleat says:

    Doc dump today– about 30 pages to be released.

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