Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Indulgent Definately, Indigent Hardly
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HOT MESS SPOILER ALERT
Who thought this was a good idea on behalf of THE BAEZ LAW FIRM?
Who raised their hand at the weekly status update and said:
“I’m sick of this crapp-ass coffee, I make $300 bucks an hour.
I make big bucks so I should be drinking STARbucks.
Gimme a Venti. I can’t drink this swill another 3/4 hour minimum or I will surely die before the trial.
I KNOW.. how about we figure out a way to make OTHERS pay for it??
Sound ridiculous?
That is nothing compared to the caught-on-camera cluster that took place during yesterdays hearing to declare accused murderer Casey Anthony indigent for costs.
Andrea Lyon, lead counsel and chronic look-of-woehaver, feels approximately $70Geeze of her “charity’s” money has been spent on this case. (Edited to add, methinks she is subtracting $22Geeze, read on)
The Center For Justice In Capital Cases
SHUT THE DOOR. This is no charity, except perhaps to Lyon as she is a paid staff member, serving as it’s director.
It is a certification study class at DePaul, run by Lyon and paid by the defense PI Morty.
Furthermore, as the work product developed in this case supports the curriculum and subsequent GPA of it’s tuitionable students, why the hell would the expenses be allocated to the defense of the case against Casey Anthony instead of DePaul?
There is no charity attributable to Andrea Lyon although she testifies to fund raising efforts through various charities and corporations, and that those charities are now, “in the hole.” $70Geeze, to be exact.
Is this the part where we here her use of the word charity was a charitable way to say she imposed on her budget as a professor?
I will say, given her penchant for hardass reporting from her students, how is it possible she has no clue what her books and billable hour are?
There are 14 students working on a death penalty case that are not attorneys, and client attorney privilege would not extend to them as their is no established agency. If I were the National Enquirer I would be finding out which of those undergrads have fat student loans and what kind of access to information they have. Catch My drift?
SanDiego Sugga Daddy
Todd Macaluso, apparently so sure of Casey’s innocence he gassed up the whirlybird, packed his lucky smoking jacket and signed on to the case.
Jose Baez testified that Todd Macaluso gifted $70 Geeze to the trust account of Casey Anthony. Operating pro hac vice (visitors pass) as representation with his own retainer agreement with Miss Anthony, Mac has violated the rules of the Florida Bar:
RULE 4-1.8 CONFLICT OF INTEREST; PROHIBITED AND OTHER TRANSACTIONS
(e) Financial Assistance to Client. A lawyer shall not provide financial assistance to a client in connection with pending or contemplated litigation, except that:
(1) a lawyer may advance court costs and expenses of litigation, the repayment of which may be contingent on the outcome of the matter; and
(2) a lawyer representing an indigent client may pay court costs and expenses of litigation on behalf of the client.
As Casey had access to $275K and was not indigent 10 months ago when Todd Macaluso signed on and paid his apparent entry fee, it would be impossible to defend this “contribution” as legal under Florida law.
ABC
The Approving Bogs for Children company has paid out $200 Geeze.
“In August 2008, we licensed exclusive rights to an extensive library of photos and home videos for use by our broadcast platforms, affiliates and international partners. No use of the material was tied to any interview.”
..”The deal was done with an attorney representing several owners of copyrighted content, ABC News spokeswoman Cathie Levine said. That attorney is Baez, she added..”
Really, not tied to any interview? When did those images and videos debut on GMA exactly? Who was on that program when they were shown?
I am quite certain I heard Jose Baez say in sworn testimony that he retained Tim Chinaris, former head of Florida Bar ethical committee to field such inquiries and all were turned down. He added that such agreements would not be ethical. Maybe he thinks ethical is transposable with visible.
Several owners of content means multiple people were paid for this “extensive library”. If ABC is claiming that Baez brokered this transaction for all then we have an even bigger problem as he was simultaneously representing the interests of all parties at the time. The agreement that was reached between the parties is critical to understanding the income status of Casey Anthony and her attorneys. Judge Strickland may very well just deny the indigency application and alls well that ends well that these barristers will have to buck up on their own.
That is, until John Morgan gets wind. We will see a copy of the ABC contract in the civil case against Casey Anthony on behalf of Zenaida Gonzalez, fo shcizz. He danced 2 jigs yesterday. There were witnesses.
Without question, Mr. Baez should be REQUIRED to produce this agreement in response to proof their is no recurring revenue or subsequent earnings to his client based on the structure of the agreement. It is not uncommon for such agreements to include royalty clauses, which would mean that someone is getting paid every time a photo or image from that collection is used.
ABC newsroom laid off 1/3 of it’s news staff earlier this month. Nice.
Billable Hours
Perhaps the *thud* moment for me yesterday was when Mr. Baez admitted in open court that he does not track his billable hours on this case.
THUD, AGAIN
Apparently, the reaction is sticking with me.
Under the rules of the Florida Bar, there is a very stringent set of requirements when determining reasonable fees for clients.
Short Version:
RULE 4-1.5 FEES AND COSTS FOR LEGAL SERVICES
(b) Factors to Be Considered in Determining Reasonable Fees and Costs.
(1) Factors to be considered as guides in determining a reasonable fee include:
(A) the time and labor required, the novelty, complexity, and difficulty of the questions involved, and the skill requisite to perform the legal service properly.
How can you bill someone $90Geeze, and have no idea how you got there, or whether or not such activities are reasonable to the client and or case?
Judge Strickland ruled that by end of business today the defense team needed to provide a full accounting of requested trust account disbursements.
I am thinking they will take the rejection of her indigency status before another trip to the dunk tank, but that’s just me.
Can you imagine the car ride home with Cheney Mason?
Role play:
“You effing stupid carpetbagging imp..
Do you even know what the eff IN CAMERA means??
It does not mean that information is sealed forever like the shalac on your hair, you moron..”
AL: Yep, I already told him that. Can I offer you some starbucks?
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good question leslee waiting for someone else to comment on this
blink???
would be nice kleat to see them thrown under the bus by their own lil princess baby killer.
kleat
couldnt happen to a more deserving couple:)
ya think
:):)
kleat
cindy may as well go lay herself under the bus and wait for the ax to fall.
cant wait to find out the content of those letters!
blink is teasing us.
I cannot wait to see how damaging they are going to be oviously by blinks comment it has to do with the anthonys.
7 out of 10 of the bombshell meter, lol.
B
Blink, I’m with you on the fact that this Mason dude will not be able to get Casey off on murder charges. there is just too much there, that even he cannot make go away. I have the utmost faith in the SA and they will prevail. it just seems that the wind went out of so many sails when this man was bullying and being disrespectful to the court and the judge. and as for Casey selling Caylee’s short life, every time I see her sitting there in court smiling, she makes me want to throw up in her mouth. she was so giddy and full of herself in court the other day. she acted as if she was an attorney sitting there with the pen and legal pad, and pushing the button on the mic. she is going down and the judge of us all is going to see to it that she does. HOW CAN YOU TAKE THE LIFE OF YOUR CHILD, AND THEN SELL HER LIKENESS FOR YOUR DEFENSE AND MONETARY GAIN? CASEY ANTHONY IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW AND ABC IS ALSO FOR PAYING FOR THEM. the BIBLE says, what so ever you sow, that you shall reap, and Casey is going to have a lot of reaping to do!
#38 and #34 Cindy probably never heard of that term until Baez used it. she to is a POS just like her daughter. and to answer the question of another blogger, Cindy is the ring leader in all of this IMO. I will be so happy when they cuff both her and George. and Brad Conway should be Cuffed and charged to. can some one please tell me why he is always at Casey’s hearings? he must not have any other clients.
Blink, are you saying to comment#12 above that, what Casey wrote in her letters to her former jail inmate contains something about George and Cindy being directly involved in a criminal way (which they were) in this case. maybe she mentioned that they knew that Caylee was deceased all along and that they helped cover up and lie for her? If that is what you are saying, I had a feeling every since the letters were found out that she was throwing them under the little short bus.
I am not commenting at all about the content of the letters, or how they were passed back and forth, or who facilitated it, over what I already have.
B
#9Leslee, I THINK CINDY AND GEORGE SHOULD BE MADE TO GIVE THAT MONEY BACK TO THOSE WHO THEY SCAMED BY SAYING THAT CAYLEE WAS A MISSING CHILD WHEN SHE KNEW ALL ALONG THAT SHE WAS DEAD. AND THE SAME THING GOES FOR BAEZ. THESE GRAND PARENTS ARE, WELL I CAN’T SAY WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY ABOUT THEM ON THIS BLOG. BUT, THEY NEED TO BE LOCKED UP FOR A VERY VERY LONG TIME. HOW COULD THEY HAVE DONE THE THINGS THAT THEY DID AND EXPECT NOT TO PAY FOR IT? AND I STILL SAY THAT GEORGE WAS TRYING TO SET RIVER UP IN SOME WAY AS BEING ZANNY.
323 MARCH 19TH, who in the hay does Casey think would pay for an autograph of hers? she is a nobody who just happen to be a CONVICTED FELON! this POS must really think she became famous for killing her own 2yr old child. SHE IS CRAZY, BUT SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE’S SAYING AND DOING AT ALL TIMES. I would pay for a dogs autograph before I would pay for her signature!
Blink… Your hints make me think that Cindy sold the Globe pictures… Ugh…she has a POA from Casey… If that’s true, it’s a new low.
I was too lazy to write everything over, my thoughts are at the end. But you said Rivera’s name would show up again, and boy you were right Blink. If Kleat hasn’t heard or read this yet…whew, Kleat, your head might explode.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/03/20/200031-reasons-i-believe-casey-is-guilty/#comment-18542
» Potatohead said: { Mar 22, 2010 – 12:03:06 }
For anyone who wants to listen to Michelle Barts call in to the Steph Watts show that I posted just above, she calls in and can be heard at 51:52 and she speaks for about 5 minutes.
Highlights of MB’s statements: * States DC was hired by JB * alleges that DC was promised/owed $60,000 from Geraldo * DC didn’t get paid, got fed up allegedly said, “I don’t work like this” and signed a contract with the A’s witnessed by Misteads (we knew that) * Contradictory statement? “DC was never employed by the A’s. He was only to bring back Caylee or answers.” (semantics? Simply meaning they never paid Dominic?) * “He did neither. I would never hire DC as a private eye” * In October, after all of the financial issues, DC dropped JB from all correspondence and wanted nothing to do with Baez
Steph stated that he recalls the ABC deal went down in late August early September 08 when he worked for them.
» WSH said: { Mar 22, 2010 – 08:03:17 }
» PotatoHead said: { Mar 22, 2010 – 12:03:06 }
Interesting. Michele Bart has never seemed to waver in her support of the Anthonys. And I believe that is still the case, so did D Casey flip on them? Is that the reason that he is being tossed into the taint with Baez, and now Rivera?
» WSH said: { Mar 22, 2010 – 08:03:11 }
Since D Casey was brought on to investigate issues related to Casey Anthony, and no other client, I’m presuming, then is the $ 60k another amount that was in the pot for Casey Anthony’s defense that wasn’t included in the motion for declaration of indigent status? Did Rivera ever actually hand over the money to Baez? Or, was it simply speculated that he would, and didn’t?
» WSH said: { Mar 22, 2010 – 08:03:43 }
Was Baez making money for his personal account, by virtue of representing Casey Anthony, but she did not benefit financially, herself on some of these deals? If so, that makes him seem even more ethically challenged.
I have not listened to this yet, so going off your notes, they are saying Jerry Rivers was due to pay Baez or Dom Casey?
B
If the past is any indication, everytime the defense pulls one of their stunts and tries to make the SA look like fools the SA always rewards us somehow with a new tidbit. Didn’t CM call the SA office stupid or something to that effect?
Good morning everyone! Thought Spring was here and the snow was gone, but Mutha nature dropped by….literally. Snow bound for another week. *sigh*
#47 ArgentinaRose
You’re probably right but Cindy doesn’t need to explain herself to anyone. If it supports their cause, then it’s a justifiable term.
It would be nice to foresee a gaggle of charges in the future for George and Cindy, most definitely. Clearly they’ve obstructed and threatened always thinking they’re above the law. They knew Caylee was not a missing child. That is bar none the most unforgiveable. I believe Baez knows, but when he learned of it, I’m not sure. As for Conway, I can’t imagine his career rising above this gong show. He should have pulled a Mark Nejames and bolted.
Again, MHO. xo
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7 out of 10 of the bombshell meter, lol.
B
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Heeheeheeeeeeheeeee. I love it.
ArgentinaRose:
In my state, scammers are held accountable….and arrested.
cindeefromwisconsin says:
March 22, 2010 at 9:53 am
If the past is any indication, everytime the defense pulls one of their stunts and tries to make the SA look like fools the SA always rewards us somehow with a new tidbit. Didn’t CM call the SA office stupid or something to that effect?
Yes- In a round about way he did. He also threw in a punch when he was introduced about why he joined the defense- something along the lines of the injustice being done to Casey. I can’t remember exactly but it is there in the beginning of the hearing.
I would also like to add that a lot of people (from different sites and the media) think Casey is calm and collected, but I think when she is constantly rubbing her hands, hair and eyebrows it screams “I am scared out of my mind”.
I have not listened to this yet, so going off your notes, they are saying Jerry Rivers was due to pay Baez or Dom Casey?
B
Blink
Michelle Bart called into the show at around 51:52.
She said to Clarify question, Casey was hired by Baez, G Rivera promised to give $ to Baez to pay for private investigators. She said that the Milsteads witnessed the contract between the Anthonys and D Casey….THEN SAYS that Casey never was never hired by the Anthonys.
She didn’t say whether Baez rec’d that money or not. Apparently D Casey never re’cd that money and went to work for the Anthonys instead.
How can she say he never worked for the Anthony’s?? I have seen the contract, minus the contingency portion, and Dom Casey has testified to working for them, Baez, and Casey Anthony simultaneously.
Diana Tennis objected to his testimony on the vary basis of confidentiality ( no standing in criminal law, but whatever) to the Anthonys.
Michelle Bart – has she been paid?
B
So Geraldo was suppose to pay Dominic $60,000 & Dominic did not get it? I certainly hope that Dominic has turned on the Anthonys & Baez. Dominic knows everything….more than anyone else, imo.
This whole thing makes me sick sick sick!!! How is it that Judge Strickland can now say that the state of FL has to pay her bills??
What about the law stated here about lawyers NOT contributing? Do you think he overlooked that one Blink?
No, not his issue. That is an issue the FBA needs to address.
B
She seemed to be talking out of both sides of her mouth. I think that the Anthonys must be worried that Dom flipped. She said Dom was hired to find a “live Caylee” That she never would have hired him. Then how do you explain the woods search as well as the dirt digging emails?
Not really sure if she got aid, she said something to the effect that she got involved out of the goodness of her heart….
Is Geraldo the NY link between Padilla and Baez? Aside from his slimy Fox show, does he have a development co, or anything? This whole case stinks to high heaven with all of the different networks and media people enmeshed in this.
They also mentioned that ABC didn’t show pix that were all that much different from other networks, etc. I think that guy Steph said that. It has me thinking that perhaps the licensing deal may have included ABC getting the rights to sell those images for use on other stations, perhaps….like a dual copyright of sorts.
Re: Hot Spoiler Mess
I agree.
According to Leonard Padilla, Casey, the convicted felon, lives her life “10 minutes at a time”. Well, I’m not so sure about that.If we are to believe Baez’s court testimony “she retained him on June 17,2008″.Then she was party to an agreement to sell photos of the child to ABC for $200 thousand. Next she spent copious hours in Baez’ office selecting those photos.Then she and Baez stated that the murder case was going to court. All this before she was charged with murder.What!
So, I’m not convinced that Casey lives her life 10 minutes at a time.Her smug countenance in court tells me that she knows something we don’t and that she does not live her life 10 minutes at a time. She has a plan. A blood red, diabolical plan that is not yet clear.
Who put up the second bond?
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/9/5/379564.html
In my opinion, the great thing about having Mason on board is that he will care less about Cindy & George. Mr. Mason has not been involved in the scamming deals that Baez & the Anthonys made. He will think nothing about throwing the Anthonys under the bus if it helps his client.
tooo funny ragdoll. about the jig and the dance.
hi how are you by the way
I’m assuming a plane landed some where in the world!
Glad you made it back, B.!
LOL LOL
Thanks. L O N G flight..
B
Welcome Back!! I missed you!!
Thank you, what an egregious pita that was.
B
OK – Good Evening Blink and Bloggers -
Here are my thoughts:
1) If ABC – in their statement is saying:
..”The deal was done with an attorney representing several owners of copyrighted content, ABC News spokeswoman Cathie Levine said. That attorney is Baez, she added..
Then wouldn’t Jose’ be in a MAJOR conflict of interest???
Furthermore, in late July -mid-August …if they’re trying to hawk pictures of Caylee…isn’t this predicated on a dead Caylee?? Who is going to buy pictures for mega-dollars for just a missing child??
2) Furthermore – I do not believe that $275,000 was all that they brought in….Even if in later interview deals or….even for Baez …a future TV show. Do NOT insult our collective intelligence by saying “we only got $275K …and it’s all gone.”
3) In the jail house visitation tapes (which are a treasure-trove of veiled comments and secret messages), Casey tells Cindy: “opportunities were presented [for me to get out of jail] and they were not acted upon” – or words to that effect. And Cindy stated “I don’t know where you are getting your information from …but we don’t have that type of money” and Casey very coldly responded “Never mind”. ..maybe Cindy and George deferred some payments …thus keeping Casey behind bars.
4) If Duh-fense DOESN’T object to the release of the jailhouse letters ….than – IMHO – that means that the letters trash talk Cindy and George – which opens up the Duh-fense’s strategy of:
“Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury – How can you expect my client to be normal when she grew up in Cindy’s BIZARRO world?? She was programmed from infancy in destuctive behavior …and there wre never any lies in Casey’s world ..only half-truths. We will nwver know what happened because Casey was defectively wired by her deranged Mother. Ask yourself this question: How would you have turned out if Cindy Anthony were your Mother!!??”
CINDY -HONEY – prepare yourself – you are on the top of the hit parade to be run over by the bus – MAJOR TIME!! This will be Casey’s ultimate victory and revenge. Cindy …Payback is a B!$ch!!
Just my thoughts…
BlinK??? do you agree?
Agreed on all fronts
B
On Monday night, Eyewitness News obtained a copy of the witness list in Casey Anthony’s civil case against Zenaida Gonzalez. Here’s the link: http://orlandosentinel.image2.trb.com/orlnews/media/acrobat/2008-11/43455794.PDF
#27 Chica
Hey you! I’m good. Still shakin my head over the jig thing too….lol. I don’t thing my husband is gonna let it down. He did an actual (well his version) of a River Dance for me tonight.
I don’t think it’s goin away for a long time.
Holy Hanna! What happened here today? My Blink withdrawal gave me the shakes all day.
(((((GROUP HUGS))))))
#25 WSH
IIRC, it was the Anthony’s. My memory isn’t the best but for some reason I remember it being a huge secret. I’ll double check on that detail in the morning
#10 ArgentinaRose
AGREED! Just a hunch, but that might become a reality or something of that sort. The Anthony’s will probably see some court time AFTER Casey has been sentenced.
#13
Blink, I believe it’s Geraldo Rivera who didn’t pay. That’s what I’m getting from WSH’s post. MB is stating that Geraldo never paid up as promised, according to Baez.
…and Baez just doesn’t do business that way. Hmmmph!
For the love of pete. Forget post #32 for obvious reasons. I’m done like dinner.
I’m wondering if the going rate for a share of the money earned from a future book and/or movie is $70,000. Isn’t it odd that Lyon and Macaluso both “donated” the same amount to Casey’s defense. Maybe $70,000 buys you one-tenth of the future proceeds — or something like that.
HI BLINK. It’s better that you had off yesterday, rather than a day when docs will be released.
GRRRR.
GRRR again.
Thanks friend.
B
Orlando Sentinel has discovery….reporters are reviewing. We will have it before too long.
Ragdoll, I love your (((((((GROUP HUGS)))))).
IMO there is definitely something hinky about that $70,000 X 2. I can’t believe that Todd Mac just up and donated $70,000 to the defense. Sounds illegal and completely illogical. Ya know that he knows she’s guilty — why would he just give away the $70 G’s? Nope, I agree with whoever suggested that he was a conduit for that money, that it originally came from somewhere else, perhaps the media.
And why would a Illinois university charitable fund donate $$$$$ to help defend a person in Florida who wasn’t even declared indigent at that point? Doesn’t add up, doesn’t made sense.
IT IS NOT A CHARITY… It may be privately funded, but is not listed anywhere on pub 78
B
((((((((((((HEIDI))))))))))))))
Good morning friend! xo
Jose needs a good spank’n for not paying for services rendered. If Dominic Case was hired by Jose, who hired their Public Relations Mgr. & paid $10,000 for scheduling Broadcasting appearances and press conference, Jose? As for $5,000. Was it a donation, loan, or what Jose? Your gratitude was un-believable. Or did it go towards secrete Limo services the day Caylee was found in bits and pieces in the woods.
I WANT TO SEE EVERY RED CENT THESE PEOPLE POCKETED AND WAS WAS PAID AND WHO WAS NOT.
I trust Mr. Morgan and his firm will help the SA in solving this murder and clear their clients good name. I can’t wait to see this smack-down and I wouldn’t doubt if Jose will loose his license at the end of all this.
A meter reader matching the description of Roy Kronk was hanging around the Anthony pool and looking at Caylee’s according to Joy Wray as told by the Anthonys.
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I noticed, whether or not she has emotional or mental problems, when she is caught in something not completely honest, or nonsensical, she goes out of her way to spin a tale. “I didn’t want to bother you guys”, in response to not handing CD evidence to the state, but providing it to Baez instead. She says that the person at Best Buy would be lying, if that person said that she requested items to be deleted so that the police couldn’t see it.
She likes to talk in circles…yeesh
Stepping away for a bit to get part of my sanity back.
Oh she enough to to do just that.
B
Caylee’s toys
And the Anthonys never called police, ahem. Also Cindy told Joy that Casey’s exboyfrind put a body in the trunk, but then later said it was pizza that caused the smell.
She’s not a very credible witness, but she did mention that after D Casey talked on the phone with the psychic he threw away his phone. OH, and she had a BAT phone too, that she also threw away. I think she bought it in another state.
{Sitting in a corner with my tinfoil hat now.}
Why, did you throw away your bat phone and now can receive my transmissions directly??
Lol.
Jim Hoover shows up a week before his and Dom Casey’s field trip to the TES command center and tells Bill Todd
(who he thinks is TM) that Suburban needs to be searched and to not tell the A’s he was down there.)
I bet your hat is heating up!!
B
#25 WSH
George and Cindy went through 2 Florida bond companies, signing a promissory note (10% required of 500k). Question is….what or who did they use for collateral? ABC?
http://tinyurl.com/ydbfvnt
Hope this helps…..and if there is anyone who can add to this, that would be fanstinkingtastic!
The other witness to the “weird meter reader” in the back yard of the Anthonys is none other than…drumroll…Holly Gagne (sp?)
Also Joy said she spoke with the secret service…Maybe they were worried because she was calling and emailing the white house during Gw Bush’s presidency? Isn’t there a secret service person on the witness list?
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THANKS Ragdoll, good work
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And yes Blink I am receiving signals…”what’s the frequency, Kenneth?” REM …lol
There is!!!
B
#30 Joan
Great post! I don’t know how I missed it but I’m glad I saw it.
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4) If Duh-fense DOESN’T object to the release of the jailhouse letters ….than – IMHO – that means that the letters trash talk Cindy and George – which opens up the Duh-fense’s strategy of:
“Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury – How can you expect my client to be normal when she grew up in Cindy’s BIZARRO world?? She was programmed from infancy in destuctive behavior …and there wre never any lies in Casey’s world ..only half-truths. We will nwver know what happened because Casey was defectively wired by her deranged Mother. Ask yourself this question: How would you have turned out if Cindy Anthony were your Mother!!??”
CINDY -HONEY – prepare yourself – you are on the top of the hit parade to be run over by the bus – MAJOR TIME!! This will be Casey’s ultimate victory and revenge. Cindy …Payback is a B!$ch!!
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So, you think the defense might use ‘child abuse’ to make Casey look sympathetic and relatable? She was raised by a psycho mother herself. It isn’t nature, it’s nurture….sort of thing?
…and WSH….YVM! xo