Morgan Harrington Murder Update: DNA Links WANTED SUSPECT

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  1. acho says:

    To Messimamm, re: the nbc29 and Daily Progress bus driver reports:

    (old story)
    http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/former_city_bus_driver

    Went to FM and very much appreciated the focused thread!

    I do not disagree with anything said there; in other words, could be, although I really think this guy had a previous relationship with his victim (that is not to say he might not have assaulted and/or killed someone unknown to him). I bet they didn’t take his DNA, but I bet they want it now. I don’t “feel” it with him and I don’t see the sketch resemblance like others do, but what do I know?! I surely don’t think sketches are the be-all and end-all, especially after seeing the huge discrepancies after the Charlottesville rapist was caught.

    His attorney states that he was making money post arrest, so I do think he was employed in some contract capacity after July of 09. Now, reading about security firm and RMC Events practices, it sounds as if hires must have a clean criminal record. For security, given the big bail-bond group in Cville is also a security-for-hire group, I would think this guy would be unable to skirt his recent arrest … right?

  2. katie says:

    Fairfax County Police say there is no connection between the Pham and Harrington cases:
    http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600&sid=1997259

    They do not mention the other case on Willow Oaks Corporate drive but they have not ruled out a connection in the Pham case to the 39 Stalker or Alicia Showalter Reynolds case.

  3. katie says:

    Ughm “29 Stalker” not 39…no glasses on…sorry

  4. twoforks says:

    Does anyone have the link to the VSP media release? (the screenshot in this blink article.)

    I thought it used to be on the VSP home page at the bottom, but I cannot find it anymore.

  5. counselor4u says:

    B,
    Will LE and/or can they use familial DNA in the search for Sketch the rapist?
    Is there any law preventing such use in Virginia?

    http://www.denverda.org/dna/Familial_DNA_Database_Searches.htm

  6. Mom3.0 says:

    Thanks for the feedback Cat- You may be right- Sketch possibly does blend in well, and he may be known to his victims, as a nice guy, someone that they never would suspect would be capable of this.

    But he may also be a stalker that follows these women until he is comfortable in his attack. If he is a stalker that watched the earlier victim, until he knew what day she went to the store, and what route she walked to and from, then he didn’t have to know her. If he stalked Morgan online or through music fests or from the campus- and picked the time she was at her most vulnerable- he didn’t have to know her or she him.

    We can not even rule out that Sketch just happened upon the earlier victim or Morgan- We know both were in vulnerable situations- Morgan alone locked out in the dark, cold & wet, out of sorts and the earlier victim, walking alone, unassuming, hands full with groceries….

    I don’t know what the situtation was/is with Sketch and if he is simply a deranged opportunist or if he plans on who and waits for when.

    Or if he is both, AND knows his victims in some capacity and they know him in some way- but I do not think we can rule out any scenario.

    The earlier victim got away simply because someone happened upon the attack- I would think that in 5 years Sketch has planned and gotten wiser to how to hide himself and how to disable his victims and how to not be interrupted once he has his plan.

    I also know that if this guy is connected to the earlier attack and to Morgan’s attack that he did not wait 5 years to quench his sickness. I would also bet that the earlier attack was not his first attempt at beating a woman or raping her. And that he NEEDS to attack, and will not stop.

    I am not a criminal profiler, and I am sure that LE has narrowed down who would likely commit these types of crimes and the how and why.

    I am encouraged by Blink’s insistence that LE has a suspect to go with this sketch.

  7. DesertGirl says:

    Chiming in to merely say thank you Blink and all – for caring enough to do the research you have, for sharing your thoughts and ideas, for working through any mud-slinging and for keeping the candle lit for Morgan. I wish mediums like this were available 25 years ago.

    We all want this solved yesterday. Perhaps the recent “developments” have lent hope where it was waning. I stand in awe of the selfless dedication we continue to see here for Morgan. Y’all are awesome.

  8. Mom3.0 says:

    Enquireer, Hi you wrote in part:

    I think LE have NFI who ’sktech’ is. My patience is wearing VERY thin on the handling of this case. There’s a few comments Ive been holding off from making for some time now which are becoming ever more tempting to share.

    Your thoughts led me to ponder a great many things- First, let me say I hear your frustration and hope that when the time comes you’ll share your other thoughts- Second- I think that this sketch should have been shown to all potential witnesses and should have been released-Unless…

    Why wouldn’t LE show the sketch to potential witnesses?
    Possibly because, they know who he is and didnt need their input?

    Why wouldn’t LE need people in Morgan’s case input? The Basses – The workers at JPJ -SS DC AM?

    Possibly because, they know that even though they have forensic evidence to connect the two cases to Sketch, they also know he did not murder or rape Morgan- Perhaps they know who did, and they are trying to connect Sketch to them?

    I don’t know- but if LE is doing their jobs they have to have a good reason.

    What I do know is LE should never have played the whole isolated incident angle when they knew that it was potentially not the case.

    The public should have been warned for their safety- AND not by the grieving parents of a murdered girl, who were trying desperately to help other unassuming young women, while attempting to get justice for their daughter. And not by an unnamed crimeblogger, that is seeking justice for the victims- but by LE themselves.

    If this case has been compromised by the release of any information, if only by releasing it a couple hours early, then, LE should be on the hotseat also, because it is their decisions to keep the citizens of Virginia in the dark that led to the hunger for information and answers.

    LE has a hard job, I value their dedication and work. I try not to second guess them, but in this instance, I can not help myself- They had a face, to go with the shirt, to go with a brutal attack, to go with a murder-

    If they couldn’t release the sketch for fear of botching the case or tipping off the BG/S then without a doubt-

    They should have made a statement or held a press conference and warned the public that Morgan’s murderer posed a very real threat to the community, and add the word, POTENTIALLY, if that makes it any less frightening….

    I know LE is working hard to bring Morgan’s killers to justice. I back them in that pursuit, and I say thank you. We don’t know everything that is happening in the investigation, and I hope they have everything well in hand.

  9. cosmo says:

    Mom3.0 – well done!

  10. mary says:

    @counselor4u -

    Could the “forensic evidence” actually be familial DNA? Which would mean “Sketch” could be the father or some other relative of Morgan’s murderer. That might explain not showing the sketch to Bass or any witnesses and not putting on the flyer that he is wanted in Morgan’s murder. Someone may have already asked this question and if so I apologize.

  11. RU Mom says:

    MOM 3.0 and others:

    I have been going back through old posts and found this one:
    Diana H. says:
    March 16, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    Mom3.0 wrote:

    “In a press conference Lt Rader referenced having physical evidence- He said what he meant by that was shirt or blood- I remember bringing it up here- and asking whether or not Morgan’s shirt was found- Does anyone remember that?”

    The quote from that newser has been written on a card in my computer hutch since Dec. 30, 2009 when Rader had the press conference. The exact quote is: “We have physical evidence.”
    “Physical evidence would be something like shirts or blood… Something that would need processing.”

    I have a link to it, but they appear to have taken the video down.
    http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11748419

    If you find the video, it starts at about 12 secs in according to my notes.

    Thanks for bringing this up again Mom3.0!

    ——————I am wondering what the physical evidence is and could this be where the DNA was gathered?

  12. Lovely says:

    Remember, Blink said that this may not be our guy, but that he knows who is.

    The suspect could have helped to dispose of her body, but may not have killed her.

    Although, it resonates with me that very early on in the days after Morgan went missing, someone said they saw a Hispanic man following her on the bridge. In the dark, it seems the man in the sketch could easily be mistaken for Spanish. I am Indian, and get mistaken for Spanish ALL THE TIME.

    Also, I am still trying to figure out why LE pointedly stated in their AF press conference that STUDENTS who have experience at AF should come forward…

    O/T, Lebron is the male version of the Kardashians. And he’s going to the Knicks.

  13. Mom3.0 says:

    Welcome love_palm_trees,

    Very wellthought out post- Thankyou for sharing your take with us- i agree with alot of what you said.

    Eloise, no problem- Enquirer, sorry for spelling your name wrong-
    Cosmo thanks for taking the time to let me know you agree.

    RUmom-
    Hi, Yes I remember that now- irt makes me wonder if LE has had this evidence for a long time, our if they recently found more evidence- I’ll have to think on your comments- Thanks for bringing up that angle.

    TwoForks sorry I don’t have that link- anyone?

    DesertGirl, thanks for chiming in with some nice thoughts.

    Fish- Hope your doing okay- thanks for always saying whats on your mind.

    Carry on guys-

  14. fish says:

    To all and I hope that I do not confuse.
    My heart and brain hurts.

    Joe got me thinking about trash collectors, deliverymen, and professional offices and such and Counselor4u and his post he brought over by a FB poster got me thinking about the construction timeline for all three areas of interest.

    This leads me right the hell back to the Anchorage Farm area!

    HE knows that area, all to well!
    LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

    Was he familiar with Mr. Bass’s property because he delivered there repeatedly as in a UPS, USPS, or any of their other delivery services or he is in construction field and familiar with the dumping ground because of the building and/or delivering of supplies to Blandemar and Anchorage Farm???

    I think about delivery trucks that pull off or into lots and eat their lunches inside their vehicles. Cyclists request, did they see anything or one?

    Or he got lucky and drove around until he found this location?
    Doubt it!

    I’m going with he would have to know how to “track it back” to that area where Bass was riding that winter day and be able do it in the rain and darkness, undetected. Can someone answer for sure if the Bass Family were even home that night? I’ve read conflicting accounts.

    *Blink, I have to ask.
    Could Sketch be the friend that someone called?
    A UVA student calls someone he knows is bad to the bone.
    Knew he would help.

    He was the older, wiser, more experienced family/friend one that just happened to have his DNA drop???
    Birds of a feather flock together theory.
    What if Morgan knew who she got into the car with?
    Something escalated and he needed the help to cover.

    What if Morgan didn’t know and was thrown into a car?
    This guy is Sketch and Sketch alone?

    (I added this after reading Mom3.0 above.
    “Possibly because, they know that even though they have forensic evidence to connect the two cases to Sketch, they also know he did not murder or rape Morgan- Perhaps they know who did, and they are trying to connect Sketch to them?”)

    Either way, Sketch or someone else knew of that secret, spot-on place to dispose of something, where she would never be found.
    Anchorage Farm.
    We do not know if any other person’s DNA or forensic evidence was found. Mum’s been the word.

    Mom, I hope that they not only showed the above mentioned (ss, am, dc, bass) but every UVA Basketball, LAX, Baseball, etc…player and UVA staff.
    Maybe Observer knows this angle.
    Plus, add in the ED staff at UVA. Maybe he needed assistance at one time. And, how about those witnesses that place Morgan outside and provide the timeline of her movements.
    BIB, Voth, Limo, Kickee, Bookkeeper.
    Some place Morgan on that bridge but saw no one else? Wow.

    Now. add in this catagory. The Homeless Shelters in Cville, if for a time, he was unemployed or even if that t-shirt was found by someone homeless and did just throw it at 15th and Grady. (Don’t anyone jump on me about the homeless, not saying anything at all other than they may have seen him or he may have used their services at one time)

    And back to…

    We all have asked where has Sketch been between 2005 and today?
    Living out his sick obsessions. Assaulting, escalating, raging, and as of October 2009 is in the disposal business and all the while, holding down a job. If he indeed, he has one.

    p.s.
    CvilleGirl, thanks for the acceptance, understanding, love, and taking some advice. It goes a long, long way with me. I could cry you a river day in and day out, if you let me and well, I don’t even let myself.
    It would become overwhelming and let’s just go with I would not be able to lift my head in the morning.
    Many here come from shattered backgrounds, with a shitton of trauma and and the life experience that this trauma provides us.
    We are all not crazily-obsessed with Blink.(laugh please!)
    What makes us cope and be able to become a “mosaic” if you will is the positive release we are allotted with specifically BOC.

    Just like a body will reveal itself in time, I also believe that we all find each other for a reason and in our own time. It is why I went to look for Morgan Dana Harrington and continue to fight for this girl. I’m trying to pay it forward, backward, and every which way I can, all the while, setting an example for my own.

    I know that pain her family endures!
    The loss, the sadness, the memories that will never be!

    I wish this on no one.

    Please, be careful in around your community. My guess would be he is slightly stunned to move right now but that will change and when it does let us both say a prayer that he will make a mistake and it will cost him and not another young girl.

    And CvilleGirl? May you, I and Blink “Chillax” when this one is caught. Blink, I’m trying, I’m trying.

    Lt. Rader, RAPID PACE please!!!
    We, the people…of Virginia are counting on it.
    Godspeed to you and your team.

  15. fish says:

    Oh by the way, one more thing…

    Summer will rapidly disappear and before we know it, the fall semesters will start soon on campuses across Virginia.

    Please send this photo to every kid enrolled in our schools.

    It just may save their life!

  16. RU Mom says:

    Did the Harringtons know of Sketch back in January? Why do they speak of a predator being in the community on October 27 as well as in November? What is this connection?

    Morgan’s Dad says:
    January 15, 2010 at 10:51 pm
    It has been reported that Morgan may have been in a vulnerable state the evening she disappeared. What she was vulnerable to was a predator who was in the University and Chalottesville community on October 17 a well as in November. The Chalottesville community should not turn a blind eye to what occured as it is likely this type of abomination could occur again. A predator took our daughter and we want her and the predator found!

  17. redly says:

    RU Mom says:
    July 8, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Did the Harringtons know of Sketch back in January? Why do they speak of a predator being in the community on October 27 as well as in November? What is this connection?
    _______________________________________

    The shirt was found in November. The assumption is it was placed on the bush the day it was found. That is where that belief comes from IMO.

  18. RU Mom says:

    oops I meant Oct 17 NOT Oct 27 sorry :(

  19. Saramom says:

    Sandridge is no longer listed as missing on VA RSO site, but Howell IS!!!!!

  20. messimamm says:

    apparently Cheesy is once again listed as “Wanted” on VSP RSO site… anyone know why?

    http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=20223

  21. messimamm says:

    http://www.wxii12.com/news/24187435/detail.html

    Check it out. Too close for comfort.

    Anyone remember me saying there is a serial killer in these parts? He has moved past the need to place them in parks.
    B

  22. A Texas Grandfather says:

    It appears that VSP is looking at other cases that may have connections to Morgan’s case. Remember the case of the graduate student in North Carrolina who was raped and strangled with her bra in her aparment. The perp actually lived in Tennessee and worked construction in the area. This guy had a record a mile long and had been in prison for previous rapes and should never have been paroled.

    The Anne Pressley case involved a perp that had been picked up for the previous rape and had bonded out. I believe he was from Forrest City, Arkansas a small community sixty or so miles East of Little Rock.

    All LE is now being pressured to solve cases with as little delay as possible.
    Do they make mistakes? Many, and sometimes in an attempt to save their reputations, they keep too much information away from the public.
    This is why in an earlier post, I implored everyone local to let law enforcement know that they expected to be kept informed as to what is the progress of a particular case.

    Blink we love you and all the hard work you do to solve difficult crimes and bring closure to families regarding their loved ones who are victims. Everyone occasionally has fat fingers or sometimes misuses terms in the english language that have multiple spellings but sound alike. So what! Busy people sometimes do not have time to edit their posts.

    Lol, thanks honorary Southern Poppa-
    B

  23. diana h. says:

    RU Mom says:

    “I am wondering what the physical evidence is and could this be where the DNA was gathered?”

    I know. Think of it. It very well could have been the shirt, although the bag and contents may have yielded physical evidence. Perhaps it was from the field which was searched?

    That card with Lt. Rader’s words is still here, in my computer hutch. An awful lot has happened since that day — Dec. 30, 2009. But the quote remains the same. “We have physical evidence.”
    “Physical evidence would be something like shirts or blood… Something that would need processing.”

    At the time I thought that was so hopeful.

  24. justiceformorgan says:

    Great post, joeamerica. Lots of food for thought ~ in fact I’m still digesting (had to run out and pick up some antacids). Very good points and I really enjoy your writing style and humor.

    I read the news report advising there was no connection between Pham’s case and Morgan’s case. I could only find that statement in one news article though (I believe it was a radio station report). I still believe there is a connection. I could be wrong ~ wouldn’t be the first time…or, the last.

    Wondered if anyone else has had a chance to look at the Pham surveillance tapes of her vehicle entering and leaving the parking lot? I scanned through the posts today so, if I missed anyone’s comments on same, please forgive me.

    Did anyone think the movements of the white van backing in the aisle looked suspicious? Could be nothing ~ I noticed several white vans in the area that looked like they were “loitering” ~ however, that van’s movements seemed odd to me, particularly when combined with the movements of Pham’s vehicle.

    There is a white van parked quite far back in the parking lot in one of the initial clips ~ it looks to me like it could be the same van that is seen later backing up in the aisle at the same time as Pham’s vehicle is beginning to exit the aisle/parking area. I thought it looked like the back windows of that van were covered with something ~ tin foil or paper, etc.

    Something else I noticed that seemed odd to me was the length of time Pham’s vehicle was stopped, waiting to turn right out of the parking lot onto the main road. There were several long gaps in traffic where she could have easily made that right turn and yet she didn’t.

    It makes me wonder if there was a struggle taking place in the car. Could be nothing, I know I often wait to turn onto a road because I am using the stop as an opportunity to do something else ~ there was a report that she was texting at some point, I believe after she left the salon; maybe she was texting while stopped at the exit waiting to turn.

    There were vehicles waiting behind her though.

    I also thought the two people standing outside what looks to be a silver truck or SUV looked interesting ~ they were standing on opposite corners of the vehicle and one is holding an umbrella. It didn’t appear to be raining and no one else was carrying an umbrella in that lot. Michael Jackson used an umberella to protect his skin from the sun ~ maybe it was something like that.

    There was also some interesting activity around that vehicle when the white van was backing in the aisle, around the time Pham’s vehicle was being to exit the aisle area of the lot.

    The other thing I noticed was what looks like a silver vehicle making a u-turn right after Pham’s vehicle is beginning to exit from the aisle area in the lot. It appears that vehicle later pulls up behind her vehicle when she is stopped, waiting to make the right turn out of the parking area.

  25. mag603 says:

    http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/police-release-video-showing-last-whereabouts-of-vanessa-pham-070710

    She turns out of the parking lot at 327p and the police respond to the call about the crash at 334p.

  26. fish says:

    http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=20223

    Why?

    This is becoming a drain on the taxpayers of The State of Virginia.
    I don’t mean to be a hater but come on, enough already. If his mother cannot seem to manage him, to make him accountable, then she can call in for help. She need not do it alone, stressing herself, her family, and her marriage. How long can a person survive this without it taking a toll on her.

    That’s all I’m askin’.

    First this:
    http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/caseSearch.do

    Then that:
    http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/caseSearch.do

    Ok, question? Somebody please fill me in?

  27. fish says:

    Ok, I think a friendship has turned sour with the above two.

  28. justiceformorgan says:

    Wow, I just noticed something else. At 40 seconds on the Pham surveillance tape, you will see a vehicle backing out of a parking space that I assume is the space Pham pulled into.

    Then, at 1 minute, 33 seconds, you will see the car that makes a u-turn right after Pham’s vehicle passes and, I believe, is later seen as the first car that stops behind her vehicle at the exit from the lot where it meets the main road.

    I said the u-turn car looked silver in my last post, but it actually appears to be more champagne in color.

    Could it be the same car (leaving parking space/making u-turn, following her out of the lot)?! Could be it backed out of the parking space so she would park there ~ close to the vehicle with umbrella person and the other person.

    Man, if that’s the case, this was frighteningly well planned.

    Has anyone in the Fairfax area seen any photo’s of vehicles shown on the news? I’d be trying to find out who was driving the champage vehicle, the white van and the truck or SUV where “lookout?” people were standing if I were LE. Of course, I’m not and they know better than I.

  29. justiceformorgan says:

    Forgot the link (btw, check out the wheel covers ~ looks the same, as does the shape, color, etc of the vehicle);

    http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2010/070710vanessaphamvideoreleased.htm

  30. justiceformorgan says:

    sorry for all the posts B, this is my last one tonight :)

    I just noticed that it appears she didn’t pull into the spot the champagne colored car backed out of ~ she took a pass on that aisle.

    Champagne car’s intention when backing out could have been for her to park there though, by the vehicle with the two people standing outside (one holding an umbrella).

  31. anotherB says:

    Well, I guess, the local police are now making sure that the obvious suspect is under surveillance – illegal parking, anything they can possibly find.

    To us, this means that he doesn’t wear a GPS anklet, or that he can tamper with it.

  32. justiceformorgan says:

    Who are the two that a friendship has turned sour for, fish? Initials possibly? When I click on the links they don’t work for me. I’m assuming EH is one…

  33. In Memory of Gini says:

    14.Lovely says:
    July 8, 2010 at 6:09 pm
    Remember, Blink said that this may not be our guy, but that he knows who is.

    The suspect could have helped to dispose of her body, but may not have killed her.
    ——————–
    Geez, is there a rapist/murder club that you can call when you abduct a woman and need some help?

    That scares me even more to think that a previous rapist gets a call from Morgans killer and says, hey dude, can you help me out with my victim….
    This sort of sounds like a gang situation, which we know Cville and surrounding areas (Waynesboro) has.

  34. KimVA says:

    mag603 says:
    July 9, 2010 at 12:15 am
    http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/police-release-video-showing-last-whereabouts-of-vanessa-pham-070710

    She turns out of the parking lot at 327p and the police respond to the call about the crash at 334p.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This video had some different angles I hadn’t seen before.
    The pulling out of a spot when she arrives, the odd turn about of the same (seems like same) silver car-her waiting to turn right on the main road etc. I think she was intentionally followed, she knew who was in the car, waited to turn so they were not right behind and to maybe call/text someone saying so & so is following me….somehow the pull beside her or she stops, rolls down her window to speak and is stabbed throughout her upper body.
    If those were her major injuries-that is where I am heading-a crime of passion kind of deal. Regardless of the person being male or female who took her life.

    (added the VA to Kim because shortly after I joined then I noticed another Kim appear…)

  35. Concerned Mom says:

    http://www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=24378

    Another young lady found dead in a field. Sound familiar? Why are citizens of VA not being warned about a possible serial murderer? I have barely seen Sketch’s picture on any local TV station. I continue to warn my daughter, mother, and friends, but why are the local stations not saturating the viewers with his ugly mug?

    EMH, better known as Cheese Boy, is supposed to go to court in a few weeks due to his inability to NOT destroy property. Is that why he is listed as WANTED on the VSP sex offender registry? Is the wimp running to avoid court or running to avoid other possible upcoming charges? I completely agree with Fish. Momma can’t handle little Eric and Momma needs to let him be handled by those who can.

    No, he was served, it has to be something else. Momma has not handled this kid, she has hidden his issues for years, imo. Anyone see an attorney name on the docket yet?
    B

  36. In Memory of Gini says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGFhQy_ZTzA

    Vanessa Pham video

    I desperately want to have time to work on her case, but I fear I will not in the near future.

    Known Offender ambush, likely in the car with her.
    OR
    Failed Sex Assault, crime of opportunity- saw her in the lot.

    They need to release her autopsy findings, or at least the chest wound data. Imo, trajectory and instrument will give up the guy. You can’t stab someone in the chest from the back seat when they are driving.

    We have a dangerous offender in the area.
    B

  37. deetee says:

    blink says:

    No, he was served, it has to be something else. Momma has not handled this kid, she has hidden his issues for years, imo. Anyone see an attorney name on the docket yet?

    he renewed his so registration july 7th. could it be as simple as le or parole officer checking up on him and mom just says, idk where he is?

    no name on the docket that i saw.

    fish, i couldn’t get these links to work:

    First this:
    http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/caseSearch.do

    Then that:
    http://epwsgdp1.courts.state.va.us/gdcourts/caseSearch.do

    are these both howell links? or is there another search term i should be using?

  38. Ky says:

    This just was reported in my neck of the woods…horrible. What is wrong with people???

    http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/roanoke_teenager_missing/110280/

  39. In Memory of Gini says:

    Teenager has been found – slain…tragic…

    http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/253078
    A Roanoke teenager who had been missing since Wednesday was slain and her body was found in Franklin County, Roanoke County police said today. A 21-year-old man was charged with first-degree murder.

    Cara Marie Holley, 18, who lived with her family in Roanoke, was was reported missing by a family member, whom she was supposed to meet on Thursday, said Roanoke police spokeswoman Aisha Johnson. Police believe she was killed in Roanoke County and are searching an area near Bandy Road for evidence, said Lt. Chuck Mason.

    Carey Shane Padgett, 21, was charged with first-degree murder and abduction by force, according to booking records at the Roanoke County-Salem Jail. Padgett is scheduled to be arraigned on those charges Monday. He is being held without bond.

  40. GnM says:

    Coincidence that Cheesy Drawers is wanted just after Sketch rears his ugly head? A lot of coincidences … there is definitely something foul in VA.

  41. fish says:

    Sorry justice, I am having problems on my line, so to speak.

    But, get yourself to Virginia Courts Case Information.

    ***Put in Marshall, B and you get this.

    Case Number: GC10011496-00 File Date: 07/08/2010 Complainant: ERIC MICHAEL HOWELL Locality: COMMONWEALTH OF VA
    Defendant: MARSHALL, BRUCE Defendant Status: Released On Summons Defense Attorney:
    Address: CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA 22911
    Sex: Male Race: White Caucasian(Non-Hispanic) DOB:
    AKA1: AKA2:
    Charge: A & B Code Section: 18.2-57 Case Type: Misdemeanor Class: 1
    Amended Charge: Amended Code: Amended Case Type:
    Offense Date: 05/14/2010 Arrest Date: 07/07/2010
    Hearings
    Number Date Time Result Hearing Type Courtroom Plea Min Continuance Code
    01 07/13/2010 09:00 AM
    _________________________________

    ***Put in Howell, E and you get this.

    Case Number: GC10010937-00 File Date: 06/23/2010 Complainant: BRUCE MARSHALL Locality: COMMONWEALTH OF VA
    Defendant: HOWELL, ERIC MICHAEL Defendant Status: Released On Summons Defense Attorney: RETAIN
    Address: NORTH GARDEN, VA 22959
    Sex: Male Race: White Caucasian(Non-Hispanic) DOB: 05/29/****
    AKA1: AKA2:
    Charge: DESTROY PROPERTY Code Section: 18.2-137 Case Type: Misdemeanor Class: 1
    Amended Charge: Amended Code: Amended Case Type:
    Offense Date: 05/15/2010 Arrest Date: 06/22/2010
    Hearings
    Number Date Time Result Hearing Type Courtroom Plea Min Continuance Code
    01 07/02/2010 09:00 AM Continued 000
    02 07/27/2010 09:30 AM

    Just seems that this is a relationship that should probably end. If the Marshall “A&B” comes first and then Howell retaliates with “Detroy Property”.

    Listen it was late nite and my head was bangin.
    And, Blink you are correct!
    “Listen it’s not rocket science, Mother is an enabler!,
    Now come to bed.”
    Quote from the one I enable! (lol, not funny I know)

    She needs to do something before this escalates any further. Maybe she just is not that bright(no offense to last name) and does not know where to turn?
    Could she ask his Probation Officer for help?
    Why sure she can.

    This puts an incrediable amount of stress on a marriage both financially and emotionally! BTW! She could drive 7 miles back to Cville and seek help. They have a ton of opportunities, programs, and some really good health care professionals that could hook her up. I’ll be more than happy to research. I love to copy and paste.

    Hope that helps.

  42. cadillac says:

    Does LE know that Vanessa, herself, was driving the car around the parking lot? Has that been confirmed?

    Was someone already in the car (passenger) while it was driving in and around the lot?

    Can they discern that from the videos?

  43. fish says:

    Blink:
    As your friend has said. “Fish On!”

    Well I’m on.
    Am I coming through?
    Hello? McFly?

  44. redly says:

    EH’s 7/2 misdemeanor hearing was continued which probably means he did not show which in turn is why he is now wanted.
    I cannot tell you how nervous that kid makes me.
    B

  45. In Memory of Gini says:

    WOW!

    This maybe the way Morgan’s killer could be found. Familial DNA!
    —————

    Los Angeles police are saying they’ve arrested a serial killer known as the Grim Sleeper using familial DNA, or the comparison of one’s unique genetic code with a relative’s unique code.

    Police say they found the man accused of killing 11 people — in murders dating back to 1985 — by comparing DNA found at some of the crime scenes with the DNA of the suspect’s son, who was in a California lock-up. The son’s DNA led them to the father, and police are sure they’ve solved the case.

    Familial DNA is a controversial crime-solving method

    ———————-
    Article attached: http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/08/familial.dna/index.html

    Highly, and I have my concerns Barry Scheck will be all over this.
    That said, as long as there becomes hard and fast standards to it’s application I am all for it.
    I think if you get locked up for a violent offense, you lose your DNA profile to the State. Tough Darts.
    B

  46. fish says:

    Thanks Blink, Thought I had gone offline.

    In regards to Vanessa, YES, I wish you had the time to devote. It makes me sad that this has happened yet again. I hope those cameras reveal someone when enhanced. It also makes me sad that those little rooftops cameras picked up her car and yet, the state of the art, John Paul Jones Arena did not work for Morgan Harrington. Nothing.
    Talk about “Cricket, cricket”.
    I hope they are now up and running.

    I would imagine that whomever it was somehow jumped in her car. Maybe when she was inside at the nail salon. I know TC’s are hot cars on the market and maybe she did not lock hers.

    JusticeforMorgan:
    I thought Vanessa could be hestitating pulling out because she was possibly texting or looking at her eyebrows (like we girls do) but the more you watch it, makes me think he was telling her to drive. I would have run my car straight into the intersection or a telephone pole.
    Girls, do whatever you can.
    Do not go. You will not win.

    You stand a better chance getting shot, stabbed, causing an accident onsite and making it to a trauma center than going with him! IMO

    I would tell this to every Fairfax young girl out there. I am old and have a different perspective but sometimes we forgot that these kids are young and need to be taught. I even make the mistake of sometimes thinking my nieces know.
    (Well, no I don’t because they say I’m a Nag!)
    This is only my opinion and what I tell my own friends and family.

    Thanks Redly, I get him now. I was extremely tired, a previous thud to the head, couldn’t sleep, and a very heavy heart for the State of Virginia. Thus my glitch in posting.

    p.s.
    Note to maintenence crew at Fairfax Plaza Shopping Center.
    Trim the Crepe Myrtles back from camera views.
    One little thing can obstruct a camera shot so desperately needed.
    It is the difference of making a face or licence plate out.
    No need to help them in their crimes!

  47. fish says:

    B: Curious to know what he would think if he lost one of his own to violence? Just curious is all. Wonder if anyone has? Was there an attorney out west that lost his wife to violence? What’s his take?

    We take your footprint as a baby, why not DNA?

    Especially then, if a Violent Offender.
    Think of it as US watching out for YOU!
    And then being able to ID a loved one found dead.
    Strict standards, of course!

  48. redly says:

    Familial DNA really should not be controversial IMO, though it is. You should never be able to get a conviction based on it alone — as there will be a pretty decent pool of folks that come back as possible false hits, but it should be allowed as a tool to help them find the perp (by refining the suspect pool) who they would then have to prove did it by normal means.

    The controversy seems to be that it will place innocent people under suspicion. You may come back with say 100 hits — 99 of those may be completely unrelated to the perp, but those 99 and their family members will come under suspicion and police scrutiny. This doesn’t really seem like a huge deal. They use the method in Britain and have had great success with it so its efficacy really cannot be seriously challenged. Again, not using it to convict but to lead them to a likely suspect who they then prove did it by taking his DNA. The US has more privacy protections than Britain so it is a harder sell here. Of course you are also far more likely to be murdered here.

  49. redly says:

    Fish — agree. If he is in the car with you, you are better off diving out or crashing it than anything else.

    Always a chance she knew him in this case of course.

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