Kyron Horman Case: Terri Horman Attorneys Call Her A Suspect

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In court papers filed Wednesday, Bunch went further, noting that Terri Horman is a “de facto suspect” in the second-grader’s disappearance…”

Portland, OR- In a voluntary appearance in court yesterday for matters relating to the pending divorce motion by estranged husband Kaine; Terri Horman showed her face for the first time since the week after her stepson, Kyron, vanished from Skyline School.

Although Kaine Horman opted to be represented by his counsel Laura Rackner and not appear personally to protect himself emotionally, according to Rackner, Terri Horman braved the fray.

Arriving with attorneys Peter Bunch and Stephen Houze, the trio was immediately met and escorted by MCSO deputies in “the box” formation to the 5th floor courtroom where local media scurried in from behind.  Within 45 minutes, Judge Meisenheimer ruled in Kaine Horman’s favor and granted his request that the issues of the mortgage-sized retainer, allegedly furnished by Terri to Houze and other distribution and custody  issues will be heard in a hearing on October 7, denying her request to have the issues bifurcated.

During the proceeding, Bunch argued that his Client cannot properly litigate the divorce and custody actions currently because she is.”..unable to proceed in the ordinary course to protect her rights as to discovery, property division, support and, particularly, custody and parenting time issues.”

In fact, for the first time publicly, we learn a very important detail about the criminal investigation into Kyron Horman’s disappearance.

According to her counsel, who would certainly be “in the know”, Terri Horman has NOT been named a suspect by MCSO in Kyron’s case, but she is painfully aware she is one.

Loosely translated, a defacto suspect is an unofficially declared suspect, but for all intents and purposes is definitely the target of the investigative crosshairs.

The Microsaccade Moment

Microsaccades are tiny involuntary movements of the eye generally caused by visual fixation.  The result on visual perception can cause the beholder to question if they are “really seeing what they are seeing.”

I had a few of those yesterday while analyzing footage of the day’s events in conjunction with known facts of this case.

They Are:

The MCSO guard detail dispatched at the courthouse assigned to Terri and counsel et al for a family court appearance.  I have spoken with a few local family lawyers who do not wish to be identified, with a combined 26 years of practice.  None have ever seen this practice in a similar matter in Multnomah County.  Specifically, the deputies went inside the actual hearing and waited to escort the trio out the back.

During the hearing, there was not a syllable mentioned about the driving force behind the request for expedition of the case in the first place. The very substantive weight that was used to secure an emergency custody and restraining order, which remains uncontested to date: The Alleged Murder for Hire Plot. Why wouldn’t a family lawyer looking to abate the divorce case strike at the very merits on which the plaintiff’s arguments are based? The plaintiff in this case uses an almost one year old mfh plot allegation, which was not carried out, and no person has been declared a suspect or arrested, to control every filing to date and counsel does not refute the claims therein? What possible reason could that be?

A recent interview with Terri Horman’s son James, in which he states that his Mother cannot have a computer, cell phone, or leave her parents home in Roseburg.

Blink Analysis Editorial: Sealed Criminal Indictment OR Civil Commitment?

A Civil commitment, which would have had to been voluntary, such as a concern for Ms. Horman injuring herself, or some sort of dependency is a possibility, but a highly unlikely one considering she appeared in court yesterday.

Strictly my opinion of course, but based on my microsaccades, I think it is entirely possible that Terri Horman is under a pre-arrest indictment in the matter of the alleged murder for hire plot, or some derivative thereof.

It would certainly be unlikely that she could have been booked and granted bail without a leak, but a sealed indictment, which may or may not include a sealed arrest warrant, would follow Oregon’s propensity to use the grand jury as a form of “preliminary hearing.”  In light of the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into Kyron’s disappearance involving Federal, county and State investigative assets, it would be entirely appropriate.

The public would not know until such time as the indictment and any potentially attached writs are unsealed.  Throw in the possibility there is always the chance that Clackamas County may be the charging county for such an offense and not Multnomah.

In which case, this is about to get very interesting.  Recall MCSO chief Dan Staton saying Clackamas County Major Crimes Team is involved in the case?  That would suggest at least part of a crime has been established in their jurisdiction.  Rudy Sanchez resides in Clackamas County.

Clackamas County District Attorney John Foote and Criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze are well acquainted. You might say that Foote owes his very job to Houze in a way-

John Foote  lost as the incumbent DA in 1996 to his own deputy district attorney Terese “Terry” Gustafson.  Terry was in the middle of fighting an Oregon Bar complaint at the time which cleared her name just days before the inauguration.

The embattled DA did not take long to be the subject of more ethics violations including felony perjury charges for lying to a circuit judge about releasing the file of a juvenile that was ordered to be destroyed. Gustafson was disbarred.

Who filed the Bar complaint who also represented the accused boy who was subsequently acquitted?

Who was the prosecuting attorney for the Oregon Bar?

Stephen Houze.

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1,272 Comments

  1. Obie says:

    I agree with you Blink, some sort of pre-arrest….I’m wondering now if Le has some pretty good proof of the attempted MFH (text messages, a recorded conversation, something written, several witnesses, etc.). That would certainly explain why Houze wouldn’t refute the claim. Even Houze said way back there somewhere that he expected his client to be arrested at some point. There must be some pretty damning evidence we don’t know about of either the MFH, or TH’s guilt in Kyron’s disappearance, or both.

    I have some unverified reports about what went down the night of the 26th. Houze never actually said that, it was Spicher’s lawyer.
    B

  2. JEN says:

    Blink, wow. Impressive as always.

    A couple of hopefully-not-too-dense questions:

    1) Assuming that the restrictions on TH are not just Houze’s doing, in what other case has anyone seen law enforcement mandate that a citizen remain at a specific location and deny the use of a cell phone or computer *without* charging her with a crime?

    2) “…resides in Clackamas County.” In real-time?

    Technically an indictment is a charge, and an arrestable offense. They may have made the decision through Houze to keep her under house arrest, while there is an ongoing investigation, speculation on my part.

    I also believe as I have said previously there are parallel investigations going on.

    Sanchez could be anywhere for all I know right now, but his addy is in Clack.
    B

    B

  3. TJ says:

    Isn’t the point of a sealed indictment generally so the subject doesn’t know they are being investigated (I admit, I am far from a legal expert). Why would it be sealed in this case?

    Not if there are parties in an ongoing investigation and in general warrants are sealed to protect an arrest.
    B

  4. TJ says:

    Also, I appreciate this perspective. I never even thought of this.

    BTW, I just saw that Desiree & Kaine are going to have a presser tomorrow:

    http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyrons-parents-to-speak-Friday-101562878.html

  5. beejay says:

    Also involved is Washington County District Attorney’s Office. Isn’t Wash county where the truck Rudy drives/drove had the UCC recorded? Or was that Wash state? All agencies involves are listed at this link:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/mcso_progress_continues_in_sea.html

    That same article stated it was the Clackamas County DA MCT (Major Crimes Team). Their website says:

    “The District Attorney’s Office also leads the County’s Inter-Agency Major Crimes Team and participates as a member of many state and regional law enforcement task forces, including a multi-jurisdictional investigation and prosecution unit known as ROCN (Regional Organized Crime and Narcotics).”

    Isn’t

  6. lily says:

    Well I learned a new word – microsaccade (which doesn’t show up on my spell checker). Not only that but this makes so much more sense in context with the activities of investigators, attorneys and potential suspects.

    When you say this is a teaching blog – you’re not kidding! This is going to require some brain power on my part to dissect. LOL

    Lol, just a hypothetical, but the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.
    B

  7. kitjcat117 says:

    @Blink – Totally agree on the pre-arrest. That was my biggest take away from the OL article when James talked about her living “conditions” and they are just that. Sounds like the sting might not have been a failed attempt as the press has lead us to believe. Perhaps she said something along the lines of “I can’t come up with the money, get out, i’m calling the cops.” I remember reading on one of the threads that perhaps he approached her with a MFH plot against Ky instead of KH.

  8. Obie says:

    Oops, I stand corrected. It was Spicher’s attorney who said he thought Terri would be arrested. Anyway, in regard to Houze’s not even challenging the MFH, what else would make sense other than the possibility that he has seen proof positive that TH was in fact involved? MOO to this and my previous comment.

  9. S says:

    OMG, Blink! I just read up on sealed indictments and it makes perfect sense in this case! There could be ties to a huge drug/human trafficking ring!

    This could literally be huge and so much more involved than any of our previous speculations.

    And, it makes perfect sense why she has appeared to be “hiding” at her parents house and her complete silence. Only threat of jail is keeping her mum, OR possibly they are getting her full cooperation to take down the big players they seek.

    Would the Multnomah County Family Court be aware of another county’s secret indictments?

    Depends on how they are filed actually.
    B

  10. S says:

    Sorry, I meant Sealed Indictment instead of Secret Indictment.

  11. Nancy says:

    Wow Blink; great work!

    This might also explain why the last two times Terri has driven to Portland to see her attorney, her parents were in the car with her. The first time was mom, then more recently dad. Could that be a condition, that she cannot drive alone without supervision?

    I think this is more recent that that.
    B

  12. shelbar says:

    I couldn’t get my google translator working , then I realized the article is ALREADY in english. Now I’m depressed. I’m not as smart as I thought I was. I don’t have a clue as to what is happening. Then to read everyone’s comment “wow blink great work it all makes sense’ is just WTF baffling to me. Can someone translate from Blink language to clueless doofus language?

  13. Orgona says:

    Blink,
    Would in that case TH need (and get) permission to drive to Houze or would the lawyer be forced to go to his/her client under such order? Because if I’m not mistaken TH did visit Mr Houze several times since she lives with her parents. I obviously don’t know anything about the possible conditions of such hypothetical scenario. (I meant in case of some Sealed Indictment and being placed under some sort of house arrest)

    Great blog by the way.

    Strictly depends on what the order states, no idea.
    B

  14. lily says:

    I suppose we know there is no requirement for electronic monitoring for TH since she wore a skirt & heels to court yesterday.

    That was the first thing I looked for.
    B

  15. puzzled says:

    my initial reaction to the MCSO escort was “protective custody”.

    My suspicion has always been that this is way bigger than an unhappy houswife and her LS lover and some random illegal with the same last name.

    Like everyone, I pray they find Kyron … soon

    From BOC contributing editor Madeline Tanner:
    http://7thspace.com/headlines/337389/two_indicted_in_oregon_in_connection_with_heroin_overdose_deaths.html

  16. Shannon says:

    13. shelbar says:
    August 26, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    I couldn’t get my google translator working , then I realized the article is ALREADY in english. Now I’m depressed. I’m not as smart as I thought I was. I don’t have a clue as to what is happening. Then to read everyone’s comment “wow blink great work it all makes sense’ is just WTF baffling to me. Can someone translate from Blink language to clueless doofus language?

    I’ll do my best. I don’t know if it will be of any help.

    Terri appeared in court yesterday relating to the divorce proceedings with Kaine.

    She didn’t have to be there, her lawyer could have appeared alone on her behalf but she went anyway. Kaine did not attend, probably because he would not have been able to control himself if faced with Terri. Terri was heavily guarded, which Blink’s sources say is highly unusual. In fact her sources say that in their combined experience they have never seen that type of security in Multnomah County. The judge ruled in Kaine’s favour that the divorce proceedings will go ahead, and not be delayed which was what Terri was requesting.

    In the course of the proceeding Terri’s lawyer indicated that she is “painfully aware” that she is a suspect in the disappearance of Kyron, despite the fact she has not officially been named one (yet).

    The fact that Terri’s lawyer did not refute the allegations of the MFH plot (which was essentially what led to the divorce proceedings in the first place) was very interesting. Normally, if she wanted the divorce proceedings to be delayed you might expect her lawyer to say, these proceedings should be delayed because they were based on something that wasn’t even true to begin with. Her lawyer did not say that. He did not dispute any of the reasons for the divorce filing at all.

    Also, in a recent interview with Terri’s son James he said that she is not allowed to have a computer, cell phone, or leave her parents home in Roseburg. That is very unusual because normally regular citizens don’t have those kinds of restrictions.

    Between the two points above I believe that Blink has concluded that Terri may be under a “pre-arrest indictment”, probably for the MFH plot which is why is wasn’t disputed in the divorce proceedings. I would guess this just means that she has basically been told that she is going to be arrested, but is allowed to live under house arrest with the restrictions until they are ready to formally take her in.

    Another possibility is she was already arrested and is now out on bail with the restrictions, but that doesn’t seem as likely.

    Also the involvement of the Clackamas County Major Crimes Team as well as the Multnomah County is interesting because that is where Rudy Sanchez lives/lived.

    The last part is just about the relationship between the DA of Clackamas Country and Terri’s lawyer Stephen Houze. I don’t know if Blink included that because she feels that is relevant in some way or whether it is just very interesting and quite a coincidence.

  17. Lauren says:

    Your pieces are always worth waiting for Blink. Thank you for all the hard work!

    Ty.
    B

  18. MariaEl says:

    Great info, Ms. Blink! (once again, sooooo happy i found this site)!

    A read in a few articles that it was suprising to see TH attending this particular session in court. I was wondering, after I was checking out what she wore and how she looked. Might her legal team start “making her over” (in terms of appearance anyway)? The black suit – convservative, the make-up and hair – simple, the “wedding ring” – hmmm… Anyway, I was just thinking that her appearing/appearance yesterday might be the first attempt at trying to get everybody to say “a woman that looks like that, couldn’t possibly do anything wrong”… I’m just saying from the outside, no, looking at TH I would not suspect that she would be sexting, bodybuilding, MFH plotting, kidnap or anything?
    For me, everyday, there is a pit in my stomach that just feels worse and worse for Kyron. And, yes, we do live in an “innocent until proven guilty” country… But for me… the only reason she hasn’t been proven guilty, is because she hasn’t seen her day in court. MOO-MOO
    Kyron, you are in the hearts of many. Much love to you. God be with you.

  19. Cat says:

    If this is true, a connection is missing. What sense would it make, from LEs perspective, to place her on house arrest for the MFH plot? Technically, I would think placing her in custody could potentially yield more favorable results.

    Not if she is cooperating, or others included in the indictment might be part of a parallel or multiple agency investigation that is ongoing, preceeded this one, or other.

    Again, I could be wrong, but the facts as they have been presented for consumption do not add up when evaluating the divorce case/mfh case/Kyron missing case.
    B

  20. kitjcat117 says:

    Since the topic of gambling came up on the old thread I thought this might be of interest. It is related to Clackamus County.

    http://www.justice.gov/usao/or/Indictments/Cockfighting%20Indictments.pdf

  21. Ldub97229 says:

    AMAZING Blink on Crime! As always, you have my heart racing and my mind blown!

  22. kitjcat117 says:

    In addition, for those of us who are in the dark about law terminology. A good read about indictments. If she was indicted what has to pass before it is unsealed? The divorce? A specific date? Another arrest? My mind is spinning.

    http://articles.gourt.com/en/indictment

  23. lily says:

    Michael D. Schrunk has been the elected District Attorney in Multnomah County, Oregon, since 1981. Multnomah County encompasses the largest metropolitan area in the State of Oregon and has a population of 672,161. Schrunk is a graduate of the University of Oregon Law School. He has extensive experience in prosecution of criminal cases and, while in private practice, represented plaintiffs and defendants in civil litigation and defended criminal cases. He served as a Captain in the U.S. Marine Corps in Vietnam and is past president of the Multnomah County Bar Association and the Oregon District Attorney’s Association.

    Mr. Schrunk has been a leader in several innovative justice initiatives: the Neighborhood District Attorney Program in 1990; the Drug Court in 1991; and Portland’s Community Court Project in 1998. He currently chairs the Regional Organized Crime Narcotics Task Force and is a member of Multnomah County’s Public Safety Coordinating Council. He has served as a lecturer for the National College of District Attorneys, the National Advocacy Center, the American Prosecutor’s Research Institute, and the Drug Enforcement Administration. He has provided articles and reviews for the Bureau of Justice Assistance and the National Institute of Justice. Mr. Schrunk is the recipient of several national awards including the U.S. Department of Justice’s Public Service Award for Community Leadership.

    Too bad every jurisdiction we encounter doesn’t have someone like this guy!!

  24. VTLady79 says:

    @ B:

    GREAT article! Very much worth the wait… as usual! : )

    I followed the link that you seemed to have forwarded in answer to the post by ‘puzzled’, and was provided by one of your editors….
    But, now I’m *puzzled*…. : )

    Other than the the multi-agency task force being used in conjunction with MCSD investigators, and the indictments being against persons who are Mexican nationals, can’t seem to figure out the connection to Ky’s case or the MFH plot.
    What am I missing, here?

    That is my bad, I realize now I should have prefaced the parts that are not overt.
    Multiple investigations, multiple agencies, and nobody knew about it until BOTH suspects were arrested. It was merely an example of the recent usage of a sealed indictment. There are a few other options, but I believe we are in the right ballpark.
    B

  25. DE says:

    I am a pedestrian when it comes to the legal fields and law enforcement and I do not follow crime cases* so nobody start eye rolling at what follows:

    When I watched the local news and saw the footage of Terri and her attorneys entering the courtroom flanked by MCSO deputies I wondered if Houze had requested that level of security since he has stated that his client has received death threats. I do not even know if an attorney can make that kind of request but I thought (perhaps cynically) it was part of the whole visual attempt at public sympathy for Terri package we were being presented yesterday. That’s what I thought.

    *As millions of others, I am standing as a light in this world for Kyron. Until Kyron is brought home I will continue to stand out here.

  26. VTLady79 says:

    OOOPS.
    Meant to paste in the link I was referring to in my last comment:

    From BOC contributing editor Madeline Tanner:
    http://7thspace.com/headlines/337389/two_indicted_in_oregon_in_connection_with_heroin_overdose_deaths.html

    Also, was it my imagination or was TMH still wearing her wedding ring???
    I know. Off topic… but, I was surprised to see that! : )

  27. MockingbirdSings says:

    So are we all moving to this story to comment now and should we leave a message after the last 3000+ comments where we went? I’m just learning how blogs work. I admit to getting lost twice when I first starting reading here – I don’t want to lose anyone else. Maybe I’m the only one who gets lost . . .

    lol lol, what a great suggestion.
    I will post a note on the fridge.
    B

  28. puzzled says:

    On a personal note … we have a 18 y/o who’s plan A was to go to Portland to college this September. After graduation, June 4th, he headed to Portland for a couple of weeks, staying with his Aunt, who lives about 6 blocks from Lloyd Center. Nice upscale, affluent and hip part of the Portland scene. He was getting registered for school and looking for a place to live. The very weekend we went to retreive him, I saw the The Oregonian headline of step-mother suspected in disappearance of 7 year old. That’s how I came to follow this case.

    After reading daily, the news of Portland and the gang violence, drive by shooting and homicides, etc., we’ve been able to persuade our “freshman” to re-consider his Plan A and go to Plan B instead… at least for the next year.

    We all want our children to be educated, remain faithful to their religious traditions and register to vote. But most important as a parent we want to keep our children safe … at 7, 18 and even 34.

  29. NoseyRosey says:

    Although I find all of this new information interesting I can’t help but feel even more desperate and heart broken for Kyron. What has this precious little guy been through. Thanks for the update Blink….awesome as always.

  30. lily says:

    LOL mockingbird – I’ve been the one hanging out at the old place asking myself “where did everybody go?” lots of times on BoC. I finally figured out how to import the RSS feed into my browser or email so I don’t miss the new posts. If I remember I try to leave a note for the others but I don’t always think of it.

  31. lily says:

    puzzled – just wondering? Where did you decide is a safe alternative? Since I have 4 boys within this age range and we’ve investigated college towns and their crime stats several times and will once again in the next year or two – there really a struggle to find a balance between good education and safety. I travel all over the country – and in my opinion – there are no college towns that don’t have a level of criminal element that seems to be a part of the scene of having a population of young people living and working in a small area.

  32. Saramom says:

    http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/default/article/Stepmom-of-missing-Ore-boy-makes-rare-appearance-631954.php

    Forgive me if this has been mentioned before–Houze’s fee “possibly paid by a third party????”

    And, I am NOT thinking it was her parents.

    Poor tiny, sweet Kyron. God rest his soul.

  33. S says:

    At the time Blink published her piece which outed Rudy, I took some time perusing the Multnomah County Jail roster. I randomly entered names I thought sounded ethnically appropriate and found bunches (more than 10) who were in jail at the same time Anselmo was incarcerated with the identical “hold.” After I found them in jail, I would google them and found lots of other info about them. I suggested someone else take up my search but was too shy and unsure of my wannabe sleuthing skills at that time to explain what I was doing or what I thought I was doing so did not answer someone who was willing to take up the search.

    All I could really find out about what the “hold” meant was that the person was being held because they were believed to have participated in a crime and I believe it was implied that the crime was more than just being in the country illegally. I could be completely wrong on that point and may have misinterpreted the information.

    It was about this time that various LE agencies collaborated on a sizable heroin ring bust. I could never correlate any of the men in MC Jail with the heroin bust, but was suspicious of it.

    I could never correlate any of the men in MC Jail with Kyron’s disappearance either, but was highly suspicious about that also.

    I have speculated that Rudy was a runner/dealer in the meth trade, but could also easily speculate he was involved somehow with the heroin ring. Possibly he is not in jail (to our knowledge) because he gave up all these guys and has been disappeared to keep his butt alive by LE because he’s a material witness in the Kyron disappearance.

    This is me wondering aloud and asking for any input you Blinkniks could offer.

  34. starshadow says:

    The escort, along with the fact that news stations were aware ahead of time that there would be an escort, suggested to me that TH, TH’s lawyer, or LE have reason to believe that her safety has been threatened or that her safety is at risk.

    (Which we’re all well aware isn’t far off base, given the public frenzy.)

    Once again, I’d have to see something concrete to think it’s any more then that.
    ————-

    And I’m rather puzzled about this section: “In fact, for the first time publicly, we learn a very important detail about the criminal investigation into Kyron Horman’s disappearance.”

    According to her counsel, who would certainly be “in the know”, Terri Horman has NOT been named a suspect by MCSO in Kyron’s case, but she is painfully aware she is one.”

    *****

    Did I miss something, or does this merely say that yes, she’s noticed that the whole freaking world considers her a suspect?

    The news stations were aware of WHAT in advance- link?
    Yes, apparently you missed the “defacto suspect” verbiage in Bunch’s filing. That would be the concrete your looking for.

  35. starshadow says:

    Oh yes. And “showed her face for the first time since the week after her stepson, Kyron, vanished”???

    She’s been seen multiple times. Just because she’s not playing camera hog a la Ward Weaver…

    Making a public appearance that is voluntary, with the expectation of the media, is quite different than being “spotted”.
    B

  36. newsatfive says:

    @lily says: August 26, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    “Michael D. Schrunk has been the elected District Attorney in Multnomah County, Oregon, since 1981.”

    Oh, and he’s also John Foote’s former boss. If you Google both names, you should kick up a nice feature piece on Strunk.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    @ puzzled says: August 26, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    “After reading daily, the news of Portland and the gang violence, drive by shooting and homicides, etc., we’ve been able to persuade our ‘freshman’ to re-consider his Plan A and go to Plan B instead… at least for the next year. . . . But most important as a parent we want to keep our children safe … at 7, 18 and even 34.”

    Portland is still safe. Nothing has changed: You are still more likely to be the victim of a violent crime at the hands of someone you know than a stranger. (IIRC, the statistic is more than 95% of violent crimes are committed by someone the victim knows.)

    IMHO, the greatest thing you can do to help you college bound family member is to teach him/her to trust his/her instincts. If something doesn’t feel right, it’s not right. Add alcohol to the mix, and therein lies the problem, as your perception of your surroundings changes.

    I’m not saying to tell the kid “don’t drink,” rather bring a “sober sister/sober brother” to the party with you.

    One last thought: Yale University is in “the hood.” Hypothetically, do you suppose it would be best for a Yale-bound kid to attend a much lower-ranked school in a “safe” community? MOO (MOO of a parent’s opinion, i.e. not my kid/not my decision).

    Eventually the baby bird has to leave the nest and fly. Otherwise, you get to feed and support him/her for the rest of his/her life.

  37. ElizabethinOR says:

    When inmates have a “hold” placed on them it can mean that they are wanted in other counties or states. In other words, the other counties and states are the ones placing the “hold” on the inmate so that he/she may be transferred after the current county is finished with him/her.

  38. kitjcat117 says:

    @S- We are all wondering the connection. Drugs? Human Trafficking? Gambling? Something is amiss. Is LE hindering info to catch the big fish? How does that hinder the invetigation? Will we ever learn of Ky’s location?

  39. hervness says:

    puzzled says:
    August 26, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    On a personal note … we have a 18 y/o who’s plan A was to go to Portland to college this September. After graduation, June 4th, he headed to Portland for a couple of weeks, staying with his Aunt, who lives about 6 blocks from Lloyd Center. Nice upscale, affluent and hip part of the Portland scene. He was getting registered for school and looking for a place to live. The very weekend we went to retreive him, I saw the The Oregonian headline of step-mother suspected in disappearance of 7 year old. That’s how I came to follow this case.

    After reading daily, the news of Portland and the gang violence, drive by shooting and homicides, etc., we’ve been able to persuade our “freshman” to re-consider his Plan A and go to Plan B instead… at least for the next year.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    @puzzled

    I’ve lived in the Portland metro area for all but the 4 years I went to school in the Seattle area. I have to say in all my travels (multiple countries and all over the US) Portland (even with its share of problems) is one of the nicest, most lovely places to call home. I can’t imagine living anywhere else. The crime rate is actually quite low compared with other metro areas it’s size, and it’s among the leading towns in “green” efforts. The bike trails are amazing and the outdoor recreation is unmatched.
    That being said, as a city dweller, you have to be smart and aware of your surroundings.
    I’m truly sorry to see that your impression of Portland is not all that great, next time you’re in town, give me a shout, I’ll show you the “real” Portland!! :)

  40. Essay Kaye says:

    This picture of Kyron posted on ScaredMonkeys breaks my heart – his binky, his dragon costume…

    http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8404.320
    (Reply #322 on: August 26, 2010, 01:21:32 PM)

    Even when all the pieces of this sad puzzle are finally put together, I don’t think any of us will ever understand the “why?” piece.

  41. Idahogal says:

    Blink, you rock!

    @beejay – It is Washington County, where I live. Borders Multnomah Co. on the West.

    @shelbar – You are too funny! Don’t feel bad, I need some translation too. The only thing I had already guessed right was house arrest,lol.

    Now a big sigh…this doesn’t bode well for Kyron, does it? I hate to say that, so sad.

  42. shelbar says:

    @shannon: thank you very much. It is clear to me now. You explained it in nice laymen terms. Now if it was medical…no problem but this legal stuff is way over my head.

    Thanks again!!!!

  43. Idahogal says:

    Kaine Horman has just informed the local media that Kyron’s Wall of Hope will come down on Sunday. He will address this further at tomorrow’s press conference. I hope they have found a place for it.

    God be with you wherever you are, Kyron.

  44. puzzled says:

    My sincere apologies to everyone in and around Portland. I meant no disrespect. I lived in Portland for fifteen years, worked for an attorney and got my masters while there. Believe me, I love Portland. Still have family there we visit often. Our freshman has a parent who is faculty at UO, but he wanted to spread his wings to a bigger city, i.e. Portland, where his grandparents, aunt and uncle and cousins live.

    Only in the last couple of weeks has he and his “guy” friends re-evaluated their situation. The “bad news” part was mine and not representative of the liveability of Portland.

    Class Act.
    B
    That’s a problem with blogging; the inability to hear the tone and context of what a person is meaning.

    Again, my sincerest apologies to Portlanders.

  45. zeus says:

    S says:
    August 26, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    “And, it makes perfect sense why she has appeared to be “hiding” at her parents house and her complete silence. Only threat of jail is keeping her mum, OR possibly they are getting her full cooperation to take down the big players they seek.”
    ****************************

    I’m curious Blink, with the new stuff coming out-are you still in the thought process of TH being the one who let the vampire in, but who may not be involved with Kyron’s disappearance or any harm to him? Do you think, as S said, that TH may be fully cooperating to take down the big players-and if so, will she be able to plea down any forthcoming charges so as to serve less jail time for whatever her part in this was?

    And would these really bad guys be the ones responsible for taking Kyron without TH’s knowledge, but who abducted him to get reimbursed for what she owed them? Whether for the MFH, or some drug or gambling debt she had not paid when due, or possibly both.

    I wonder about her appearance yesterday. Did she do it to simply get out of the house, or was she made to go? I also wonder if her parent’s house is being guarded, because if she is helping, by her cooperation, to bring down some really nasty criminals-it seems her whole family is a sitting duck right now. Those kind of people could take out the entire family if LE simply turned their heads for a minute. No computers, no cell phones, why? To protect her and her family from these people, or protect the plan from imploding?

    Without hesitation or reservation, Terri Horman created this situation willfully or unwillingly.

    I care not which scenario fits, I want this wee man found, and I want those responsible brought to justice.

    While I am making a wish list, I wish this never happened and Ky was safe and sound.
    B

  46. GraceintheHills says:

    26.DE says:
    August 26, 2010 at 5:45 pm
    I am a pedestrian when it comes to the legal fields and law enforcement and I do not follow crime cases* so nobody start eye rolling at what follows:

    When I watched the local news and saw the footage of Terri and her attorneys entering the courtroom flanked by MCSO deputies I wondered if Houze had requested that level of security since he has stated that his client has received death threats. I do not even know if an attorney can make that kind of request but I thought (perhaps cynically) it was part of the whole visual attempt at public sympathy for Terri package we were being presented yesterday. That’s what I thought.
    ***************************************************************
    Yes, an attorney can make that kind of request of a sheriff’s department, especially if his client has received death threats and he fears for her safety in public. I have witnessed sheriff’s department deputies “box” a witness in as she walked into court after she received a threat from someone in the community, and I have seen them protect other witnesses as well. I think the last thing MCSO wants is to have this woman harmed right under their noses.

    From what I have seen and read, I don’t think it is likely that TH is under house arrest nor do I believe she is under some type of civil commitment. But, of course, anything is possible. I suspect that Mr. Houze likely advised his client to stay off cell phones and computers. He certainly would not be the first attorney that advised a client to do so. As far, as her staying inside of her parents’ home or having them accompany her when she is out in public, I can’t say I blame her after reading all the online comments at KATU, OregonLive and other sites. There are some frighteningly incendiary comments out there. Moo…..

  47. riverpearl says:

    newsatfive says:
    August 26, 2010 at 2:31 am

    “Horman…was still wearing what appeared to be a wedding ring.”

    “Terri Horman turned,.. and looked around the hearing room briefly…”

    “The question remains as to why Terri Horman came to the hearing…”
    ~~~~~~

    I felt ‘these’ showed TMH ‘sticking it’ to KH w/o ‘words’ and, she ‘looked’ around to see if he was watching=emotional manipulation.
    Instead of injecting ‘my impressions’, I snipped parts that jumped out @ first read.
    JMOO

    ************************
    mag603 says:
    August 25, 2010 at 11:27 pm
    -AND-
    Nancy says:
    August 25, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    “Kaine Horman did not attend the half-hour hearing. His lawyer…said she believes the missing boy’s father didn’t go in order to protect himself emotionally.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I felt this was ‘strange’ because why did she even say it…the statement seem to play into the ‘emotional manipulation’ I perceived from (aforementioned) TMH observations…JMOO

  48. lily says:

    newsatfive – thanks for the search suggestion because it turned up this great article. I might be in love with Schrunk:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/influential_multnomah_county_p.html

  49. Kaylee says:

    Yay! A new piece to chew on – interesting stuff! Thank you!

    “Making a public appearance that is voluntary, with the expectation of the media, is quite different than being “spotted”.”
    B

    Especially since every time she was spotted, she tried to hide or get away as quick as possible. This was definitely “an appearance” and I wonder what has changed in order to make it possible. I remember how reluctant the family was at first to make a public statement and how the officer who had been staying with them said they were distressed just answering emailed questions. A friend of Terri’s said she was being quiet because Kaine told her to be, and we’ve assumed that she has been quiet since (at least publicly) because Houze told to be. Did Houze tell her, “it’s time, Terri?” Could they be working up to a public statement?

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