Kyron Horman Missing: Case Review And Birthday Wishes To The Frog Prince

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On what is Kyron Horman’s 8th Birthday, the Skyline School, where Kyron was scheduled to begin the third grade, is buzzing with the start of the years activities without him.

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In response to the disappearance and presumed abduction of the bespectacled herpetologist; Skyline has implemented a myriad of mandatory safety features as well as a state of the art security camera system. While complete with facial recognition capability, one face it will not be recognizing today, is that of Kyron Horman.

 

Although missing since the morning of June 4, 2010, there have been no updates from the many State and Federal agencies participating in the criminal investigation of his disappearance since August 12, 2010. 

 

Adding to the mounting concern about the status of Kyron’s fate are the words of his own parents, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young.

 

“The police will not stop until they find Kyron and the harder they have to search–the harder this will get for you,” wrote Young. “You will go to jail and whoever has been helping you will have to talk police or they will go to jail.”

 

It is clear from Kaine and Desiree’s comments that they believe Terri Horman, Kyron’s step mom, is at least partially responsible for Kyron vanishing. While they stop short of naming any possible accomplices, Rod Underhill, the chief deputy district attorney of Multnomah County, Captain Jason Gates, Detective Bob O’Donnell of the Multnomah County Sheriff Office have sought the publics help to flush them out. Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans’ extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared. In what was characterized as a slip-up, methinks that that Kyron’s Mom told us that someone was actually Kyron.  

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While Terri Horman is holed up at her parents newly refinanced home in Roseburg and under the mortgage-sized retainer protection of Stephen Houze; she is awaiting the September 21st contempt hearing  for allegedly violating an order that she not disclose the “sealed” reasoning for, or contents of,  the current restraining order in effect against her.

 

Accomplice, Witness, Opportunist or Collateral Damage?

 

 

Rodolfo “Rudy” Estrada Sanchez

 

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 Rudy is the owner of RS Landscape Maintenance and the alleged former landscaper/ love interest of Terri Horman.  He is also the man who says Terri Horman asked him to murder her husband Kaine late last year. Investigators clearly believed his story as it was the basis for an attempted sting on June 26th by MCSO including an undercover DEA agent. Sanchez, wearing a wire, demanded a $10,000 payment from Horman for services rendered, except Kaine was very much alive. As the information gleaned from Sanchez provided to Kaine Horman indicates this alleged “contract”discussion with his wife happened over 7 months ago, it is unclear what the payment demand could actually be for. Sanchez testified before the grand jury on August 4. While the content of his testimony is secret, the fact that whatever he testified to outside of pleading the “On the advice of counsel I plead the 5th and hereby assert all of it’s protections.” grants him a level of immunity, in addition to whatever he may or may not have already been granted by the District Attorney.

When reached at one of the numbers records show is billed in his brothers name, Jaime Estrada Sanchez, who uses the name Jaime Estrada on his carpet cleaning business website declined to comment to blinkoncrime.com and the number has since been disconnected.

 

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a close family friend who has since been interviewed by the FBI, has confirmed that Terri Horman is pointing her finger directly at Sanchez. She has also stated that she and Sanchez had an altercation after she attempted to end their relationship in May which ended in a 911 call and a visit from Clackamas County Sheriff Office in the presence of Sanchez’s wife and children. While it did not result in any charges, Horman told the source that the landscaper was furious with her because he is not in the US legally. While blinkoncrime.com has not been able to verify the date of the alleged 911 call, we have been able to verify that Terri called her Mother immediately following the incident and told her that Kaine had found out about the landscaper she hired to do what she referred to as “her yardwork” and when she informed him that she could no longer use him because Kaine was making her fire him, he lunged at her with Kiara in her arms. Kaine Horman denies the couple ever hired the landscaper as well as any previous information as to his estranged wife’s possible dealings with Sanchez.

 

It should be noted that Mr. Sanchez has not been charged with any crime in this matter and local references to his business are highly complimentary. In fact, Jean Ann Van Krevelen a friend and “mentor” of Dede Spicher has used RS Landscape Maintenance on a few occasions, leaving positive reviews on the ServiceMaster listing which deleted his business from the site on 6/21/10.  Heather Walters, owner of Rosemont Farm,which is not West Wind Farm, where Dede Spicher was working the morning of June 4th and out of reach by phone from approximately 90 minutes, has never met Terri Horman or heard of their family prior to Kyron’s disappearance. When I asked her if she knew Rudy Sanchez or if she ever hired his firm to work at WWF, she replied “not that I recall, no, but we did have a blackberry clean up a few years ago so it is possible.”

 

Anselmo Sanchez-Sanchez

 

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 As reported on blinkoncrime.com, Anselmo was booked into the MCSO on July 8, 2010 on a hold from the US Marshall Service. He was held until August () and returned to Federal custody in Sheridan. While residence records and a private post to blinkoncrime.com indicate the Sanchez’s know each other, at a minimum, it is unknown if Anselmo has any direct connection to this case. What is known, is that Anselmo Sanchez a/k/a Freddy Atristad Sanchez has been in Federal Custody since March 4, 2010.

 

 Or has he?

 

 

Although records indicate that he was placed under post probation supervision by ICE on February 19, 2010, according to Mr. Sanchez-Sanchez Federal criminal docket after being “found in the US and apprehended” in  August 2009” following a previous deportation in 2003, he was “administratively arrested” on February 23, 2010. A Federal Grand Jury’s subsequent indictment was issued on March 4 and he was immediately incarcerated.

 

Mr. Sanchez-Sanchez rap sheet includes convictions for rape, failure to register as a sex offender and a host of probation and parole violations prior to his deportation.

 

In what can only be categorized as a bizarre coincidence, Oregon BOP VINE network shows that on June 26, 2010, they very day of the “sting” involving Rudy Sanchez, Anselmo was transferred and released to “community supervision”.  There is no record of either his transfer or his booking by MCSO July 8th on his docket. What is reflected on the record for June 21st, is the US Marshall Service requested a rescheduling of his plea hearing on July 1st   - July 12th directly with the presiding judge outside of his Federal appointed defense attorney.  Yep. Exparte.  Mr. Sanchez attorney Allison Clark used the 7/12/10 court date to file a motion to quit the case.  They have subsequently worked through their differences and were scheduled to appear yesterday, but a 4th continuance in the case was granted to reschedule for October 7, 2010. In that motion, Ms. Clark asserts that Mr. Sanchez has been in custody the entire time but that his records are difficult to retrieve so more time to prepare for trial is necessary.  I’ll say. 

 

 

 

 

Dede Spicher

 

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Doppelganger. Organic Gardner. Jilted girlfriend and support network for Terri Horman.

Up until a few weeks ago, she was also very much the object of accusation by Desiree Young and Kaine Horman, as well as the investigators assigned to Kyron’s case. So much so, they released a flyer featuring the ginger ladies and the infamous white truck. LE has subsequently backed off of Spicher and publicly stated they do not believe it was her in the white truck in the lot of the Skyline School. Dede’s father is a semi-retired Klamath County Sheriff deputy. If it can be confirmed Spicher knew Kyron was missing on June 4th we have a very big problem.

 

Blinkoncrime.com is in receipt of a private post through a mutual friend of Dede’s in response to an article about Kyron’s disappearance from the school which was post on June 4th at 11:40PM

 

Spicher responded on June 5 at 7:44am: Holy Crap! I KNOW this boy!

Mutual Friend, June 5, 1:35PM: no way???!!! Really Dede?

Spicher: yes. My friend Terri is the step-mother mentioned in the article. It’s so shocking when something like this hits so close to home. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" v />June 5 at 5:44pm

 

 

Michael Cook

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The source of both information for the contempt filing and hundreds of sexts exchanged between he and Terri Horman following Kaine Horman’s filing for divorce and leaving the marital residence as advised by MCSO, Michael Cook was a high school classmate of Kaine Horman.

 

Mr. Cook is also one smarmy dude if his former spouse Shannon has anything to say about it.

 

Oddly, blinkoncrime.com has learned from an inside source that Cook was not called before the grand jury to testify. In the instant action for contempt, Kaine Horman’s attorney Laura Rackner specifically references the “sexting” and the text regarding Houze’s fee as information provided by law enforcement. 

 

So, was he acting as an agent for le or is he himself under investigation?

 

Jason Wishert

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William Jason Wishert is undoubtedly wishing he had not interjected himself in this case. Apparently new to the blogosphere via a request from Maxine Bernstein of the Oregonian, Mr. Wishert took to what he saw as his *nuveau*cause*celeb* status with moxy.

 

 

That was until he announced his appearance on the scaredmonkeys.net forum to answer questions about the case and cry the blues when he accused the Oregonian of using his rough notes to skewer Dede Spicher.  According to Wishert the “not a lot of kissing but plenty of telling” memo was not supposed to be published.  About 3 minutes into his introduction to his “sleuthing public” Wishert was asked why he spelled his name incorrectly and if he was indeed the son of convicted child porn possessor William Kent Wishart.  In a really bad move, Mr. Wishert denied the allegation and retreated with his tail somewhere on his person.

 

Kent Wishart, former CEO of Graphic Sciences, is in Federal Custody for the next 4 years for possession of child porn and engaging in a file sharing subscription for same. Jason’s brother Grant is an employee of GS.  All three Wishert’s hold numerous active and inactive business licenses throughout Oregon and Washington.  Graphic Sciences has a Mexican affiliate office.

 

Both Jason and his brother James Grant have had numerous legal entanglements (editor’s note: say it just like Chief Margie with the flat “a”) and our attempts to substantiate Jason’s claims about court appointed child advocacy certifications have yet to be confirmed.

 

However, with his Uncle John Kerr, Jason Wishert is heavily involved in the Friends of Pimpollo Charity which sponsors various children issues and an orphanage in Mexico.  FOP is a verified charity with a 50% tax deduction rate according to IRS Publication 78 in good standing, but they are years behind in their annual reporting.

 

Birthday Boy and America’s Frog Prince

 

Today, Kyron Horman’s eigth birthday, may not bring us any closer to where our frog prince is, but we do wish to extend our thoughts and prayers in celebration of his special day to his parents, friends and family. There are 2 celebrations for Kyron today. The picture below is an image of the birthday invitation chosen by his Mom, Desiree Young, and designed by scaredmonkeys poster Brandi.

 

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Images by Klaasend

Jason Mateos, Madeline Tanner, and Laura Cincaid contributing editors to this report

 

 

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2,950 Comments

  1. Madilu says:

    Uhoh, do I have an open string?
    B

    I don’t understand your question… newsatfive made comments in bold on a posting of his/hers… so I was confused it that was newsatfive writing the comments, and if so how he bolded them… or if the comments were mad by you…

  2. Madilu says:

    Dear Dee and others talking about Rudy sexting with/from TH.

    Can you please provide a link to this news report? I don’t mean to sound ignorant here, but I thought it was just MC sexting…I would like to read the source article! Unless of course it is the work of a *troll*!!!!

    For anyone looking to dig up a link: It is referred to, iirc, in the contempt motion as similar behavior, but don’t quote me.
    B

  3. foobros says:

    Ode says:
    September 13, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    You know Ode, I was thinking the same thing a while back and I still don’t know what to think. Terri loved Kiara and posted lots of pics and comments about her on Facebook. I had the tv on JVM tonight while I was doing other things, but I could hear the conversation. The panel was talking about Terri’s lawyer trying to get the divorce pushed back until after any criminal proceedings had taken place. WTH? Terri isn’t charged with anything as far as I know. Blink has mentioned a sealed indictment as a possibility though. My point is – is Terri willing to put off any custody issues with Kiara for perhaps a couple of years? I still wonder if she has cooperated the whole time and this is a plan in place by LE. My first inclination was that she was directly responsible for what happened to Kyron. Reading what Blink has said, I have tried to temper that. I feel that Blink is saying that yes, Terri has some culpability in what happened, but never planned for it to happen. All I can say is that she must be in a really bad spot to not even try to see her daughter, when Kiara is at an age where babies need their mom so much. I just want some resolution for this family; my heart goes out to them and I wish that if there is someone out there that knows what happened, they would man up/woman up and help them.

  4. Madilu says:

    enumclawrose says:
    September 13, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Would it be the Woodburn Independent?
    http://www.woodburnindependent.com/

  5. angelab says:

    unless something has changed, more info known, i found this post from the thread about “TH a path to suspect…”

    beejay says: August 26, 2010 8:22 am

    http://helpthesechildren.ning.com/profiles/blogs/jamie-mejia-5-and-ubaldo

    I have no information that this is related in any way, and I can confirm this is not the family agents were looking for.
    B

    Correct, that is what I said.

    And as I already stated, this was not the fam agents were looking for in relation to the interview of Roger.
    B

  6. Shelly says:

    Shelly says:
    August 26th, 1:31am

    Does the missing family (mother Elsy Mejia-Sanchez,and children Jamie Mejia and Ubaldo Sanchez-Mejia) have any connection to either RS or AS? They went missing on May 19th.

    Blinks reply: Shelly- source link please- what do you mean they are “missing”?
    B

    August 26, 2010 at 10:10 am
    @ Blink,

    Have agents sucessfully located the family they were looking for?

    From Blink: I cannot say for certain, but imo, yes.

    beejay says:
    August 26, 2010 at 8:22 am
    http://helpthesechildren.ning.com/profiles/blogs/jamie-mejia-5-and-ubaldo

    From Blink: I have no information that this is related in any way, and I can confirm this is not the family agents were looking for.
    B

    August 26, 2010 at 10:10 am
    @ Blink,

    Have agents sucessfully located the family they were looking for?

    I cannot say for certain, but imo, yes.
    B

    I am now more confused than ever as weeks ago, I wrote off the story of the kids and their mother. Can anyone verify that this family is related to any of the landscapers?

    We are talking about 2 different families, 2 different events.

    The family they were looking for (Via Roger) had a child that went to school with Kyron and then the Sanchez and their alleged abductor. I can connect LS to a Ubaldo R in Woodburn, yes.

  7. SouthernMom says:

    Also wondering how LE found the LS connection…was it from phone records of Terri’s or just the 911 call incident on Mother’s Day? Has Kaine ever spoken of the LS and the 911 call?

  8. kitjcat117 says:

    @Malty
    She went there with Kiara in tow. What kind of Mother does that? If she knew he would lunge or go after her…dispicable.

    It occurred at the Horman home.
    B

  9. Marleysmom says:

    Kaine and Desiree Horman are going to be on Oprah’s in the first week of her last season. I am unclear if that is next week.
    Power for the return and resolution for Kyron.

  10. enumclawrose says:

    Maria Sanchez has a landscape buiness in Hillsboro, close to FM#1. The date on the business registration is May 26th 2010, exactly on week after Elsy took off. The address on the registration is 271195, but it really is 27195 SW Farmington, Hillsboro, WASHINGTON COUNTY, Oregon. Zillow shows it last sold 2003. WA County tax records didn’t show the owner but there is a document referenced.

    Can’t post the link, but if you go to the Oregon State Secretary of State Corporation Division, you can search either Maria Sanchez as an individual or Pacific Color Grass as an entity.

    690085-98 ABN ACT 05-26-2010 05-26-2012
    Entity Name PACIFIC COLOR GRASS
    Foreign Name
    Affidavit? N

    New Search Printer Friendly Associated Names
    Type PPB PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS
    Addr 1 271195 SW FARMINGTON
    Addr 2
    CSZ HILLSBORO OR 97123 Country UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    The Authorized Representative address is the mailing address for this business.
    Type REP AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE Start Date 05-26-2010 Resign Date
    Name MARIA SANCHEZ
    Addr 1 271195 SW FARMINGTON
    Addr 2
    CSZ HILLSBORO OR 97123 Country UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    Type REG REGISTRANT
    Name MARIA SANCHEZ
    Addr 1 271195 SW FARMINGTON
    Addr 2
    CSZ HILLSBORO OR 97123 Country UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    New Search Printer Friendly Name History
    Business Entity Name Name Type Name Status Start Date End Date
    PACIFIC COLOR GRASS EN CUR 05-26-2010

    Please read before ordering Copies.
    New Search Printer Friendly Summary History
    Image Date Action Transaction Date Effective Date Status Name/Agent Change Dissolved By
    05-26-2010 APPLICATION FOR REGISTRATION 05-26-2010 FI Representative

    New Search Printer Friendly Counties
    Counties Filed
    Clackamas, Multnomah, Washington

    Counties Not Filed (but not necessarily available)
    Baker, Benton, Clatsop, Columbia, Coos, Crook, Curry, Deschutes, Douglas, Gilliam, Grant, Harney, Hood River, Jackson, Jefferson, Josephine, Klamath, Lake, Lane, Lincoln, Linn, Malheur, Marion, Morrow, Polk, Sherman, Tillamook, Umatilla, Union, Wallowa, Wasco, Wheeler, Yamhill

  11. Riverpearl says:

    Recently someone asked WHY Russian & Spanish billboards…
    Besides the Russian/ Spanish community in Portland—
    Woodburn is known for its LARGE Russian/ Spanish community.
    Now with a RS/LS connection to woodburn may be why 3 language billboard ?
    Just. a thought …

  12. Ode says:

    http://www.kgw.com/news/Court-doc-Kaine-Terri-Horman-kyron-horman-contempt-sexting-98270654.html

    Similarities to Murder-for-Hire plot
    2.Madilu says:
    September 13, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    Dear Dee and others talking about Rudy sexting with/from TH.

    Can you please provide a link to this news report? I don’t mean to sound ignorant here, but I thought it was just MC sexting…I would like to read the source article! Unless of course it is the work of a *troll*!!!!

    Madilu here is one article that address your question.

    Monday’s court filing also stated that police had told Kaine that Terri’s “sexual overtures to Mr. Cook resemble those made to the man Respondent (Terri Horman) attempted to hire to murder Petitioner (Kaine).”

    In the original restraining order filing, Kaine stated that police had told him Terri had tried to hire a landscaper to kill Kaine. MORE: Murder-for-hire-plot

    Thank You Ode. That’s it
    B

  13. puzzled says:

    Let me see if I’ve got this …

    Maria G. Sanchez is the authorized representative for Sanchez Nursery Sales in Woodburn. Maria Sanchez has a landscape buiness in Hillsboro.

    Rudy Sanchez is RS Landscaping Maintenance in Canby and there is a Sanchez Landscaping Maintenance in Woodburn.

    I understand that Sanchez is a very popular and common name, but my question is the familia relationship between these people.

    Also, just askin’, in this economic downturn, where are the Sanchezs getting the money for start-up businesses???

  14. Rich M says:

    @Annals: Thanks for the servicemagic listing. VERY INTERESTING timing here. Makes you go hmmm. I didnt see the actual Serv magic posting but from the comment listed below: April 27 2010 Service Magic May 8th decided she had already filled the position. Yard Cleanup on medium sized yard. All American Cleaning and Landscape ~ Zack

    She filled the position? And fired Rudy on the 9th? Hmmmm. Tight timeline there.

    @Lyla: why would Kyron go outside without his coat on a chilly day? To check out the gardens perhaps? (thinking he would be right back inside)

  15. Idahogal says:

    Shelly says:
    September 13, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    @shelly: Thank you so much for finding the August posts about the missing Sanchez family. It was driving me nuts.
    ********************
    lyla says:
    September 13, 2010 at 11:58 pm
    Desiree and Kaine on Oprah!
    http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Hormans-parents-to-go-on-Oprah-missing-portland-102816349.html

    This is good news, KGW says they will appear this Thursday, 9/16. First week of last season = HUGE audience. The more media attention the better. Yay!

  16. riverpearl says:

    Not sure if people are aware of ‘newest’ announcement w/ DY & KH>

    Kyron Horman’s parents, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, will be in segment on Oprah

    The parents of Kyron Horman, who’s been missing more than 100 days, will appear on Oprah Winfrey Show on Thursday to discuss the case.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/kyron_hormans_parents_kaine_ho.html

  17. Rich M says:

    Blink-do you still think that Elsy and kids going missing is still unrelated to this case?

    Another thought-I am waging the intro to RS came from Dede?

    I said it was a separate issue, not necessary unrelated.

    Let me say why- when we talk about the amount of permutations of names these individuals are using, I am wary of confirming “who is who” as in defined, by their name, because, honestly, I have intel about several individuals also linked to said addresses that have not come up yet.

    B

  18. SouthernMom says:

    Sorry if this is a duplicate post, but it’s not showing up.

    Blink has said the LS is the key. People ask how he could have pulled it off so cleanly…but think of this: He likely wasn’t looked at until some time had passed in which he could have covered his tracks well. Could it be he didn’t realize Kyron was stepson and believed he was harming Terri’s bio son as payback for Mother’s Day scandal? Stranger abductions are the absolute hardest to solve since it takes so long to even sniff out the right suspects and again, physical evidence is destroyed during the delay. Hard to even go down the path of Terri not being directly involved, but, seems like LE would at least have named her a POI or Suspect if they had more evidence of her guilt in direct involvement. I wonder if there were threats or paybacks going on back and forth during the time since Mother’s Day and if Terri and DeeDee weren’t plotting some sort of revenge (involving illegal activity) that day….but LS was already hatching the ultimate revenge?

    I don’t recall for sure if this was confirmed, but didn’t Terri “pass” the lie detector test questions involving Kyron and his disappearance, but fail when asked about LS and “lifestyle” questions?

  19. Rich M says:

    OK, this may sound like a stretch since everyone and their brother has a white truck in this state (even more bizarre that another white truck shows up on the street outside the hillsboro Sanchez nursery address, but the truck does go on past the driveway as you scroll further on down the road).

    This SHOULD drop you right in front of the Hillsboro address. It appears there is a white truck in the driveway also.

    I have to wonder if the police checked out these properties (owned/related to the Sanchez family.)

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=27195+SW+FARMINGTON,+hillsboro+or&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.418852,79.541016&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=27195+SW+Farmington+Rd,+Hillsboro,+Washington,+Oregon+97123&ll=45.451163,-122.957615&spn=0.000621,0.001214&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=45.451129,-122.957484&panoid=nQYejDv6B7KWVpFtnSJnEg&cbp=12,32.52,,0,3.41

  20. SouthernMom says:

    I’m hoping the exposure from the Oprah Show will get someone who knows or thinks they know something to talk. Maybe she will put up a huge amount of money as a reward for information leading to an arrest. There have been many cases that are solved once the reward money reaches huge dollars. Somebody out there must know something they are not yet telling.

  21. SouthernMom says:

    I also think Oprah should have Blink on the show (via skype at least). :)

  22. Rich M says:

    I googled the address and it is obvious that it was previously a landscaping business. The plants didnt just sprout overnite. (And jftr, the google maps pics could have been taken years ago so may not be accurate and representative of what is there TODAY, but I did find it ironic.)

    Previously listed at that address was “Oregon Ornamentals”.COMPANY OVERVIEW
    OREGON ORNAMENTALS is in the Ornamental Floriculture Nursery Products industry in HILLSBORO, OR. This company currently has approximately 1 to 5 employees and annual sales of Under $500,000.
    COMPANY DETAILS
    Location Type
    Single Location
    Industry
    Ornamental Floriculture Nursery Products
    Year Founded
    1977
    Sales Range
    Under $500,000
    Employees
    1 to 5

    The address is also associated with a business called “Hillsboro siding”
    Hours
    Hours not available. Please contact Hillsboro Siding at (503) 840-8201.
    Categories
    Siding Materials
    In Business Since
    2008
    AKA
    Hillsboro Siding, Llc

    Key Hillsboro Siding, LLC Financials
    Employees At This Location 2
    Employees Total 2 (this info was all taken from different googled sources, which I could link if necessary. Just FYI I googled the address and thats it.)

    Funny thing is, while perusing veromi.net it listed hillsboro siding for one of the players, possibly Ubaldo but I have to go back and look. I am going to launch this comment before I look because my computer is wonky.

  23. SouthernMom says:

    Blink – what do you believe happened to Kyron? There is a lot of information (or speculation) regarding the LS…and it seems he was involved somehow, or is it all just cooincidences? Do you feel there is a chance he is still alive?

    I pray that he is, but unfortunately, no, I do not.
    B

  24. riverpearl says:

    IIRC @ one time there has been discussion if drugs and what type of drugs might be involved w/KH disappearance.

    On the front page of Oregonian 09/14 is an article titled: “Quiet deaths scream warning”.

    The article is about the heroin overdoses in Oregon.
    These overdoses killed more people that meth & cocaine combined

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/prosecutors_book_illustrates_h.html

    Portland dealer pleads guilty to running black-tar heroin ring that led to two overdose deaths in 2009

    “A Portland heroin dealer pleaded guilty Monday to conspiring with his brother-in-law to run a major black-tar heroin distribution ring that led to the overdose deaths last year of Patrick McGinnis and Joshua Reeves.”

    “The two dealers referred to their business as “The Store,” operated the sales like a dispatch center and paid for sellers to be smuggled into the United States from Mexico, Assistant U.S. Attorney Kathleen Bickers said.”

    “Under a plea deal, Jose I. Hernandez Flores, 38, nicknamed “Pepe,” is expected to face 13 years in prison, then deportation”…

    “His brother-in-law, Jose Luis Torres Rojas, 30, known as “Chad,” is scheduled to plead guilty on Friday, and face an 11 1/2-year sentence, mostly due to his greater degree of cooperation.”

    “But Hernandez Flores and Torres Rojas did acknowledge, as part of the plea deals, that their heroin sales led to both McGinnis’ and Reeves’ overdose deaths and have agreed to pay each family full restitution for the expenses stemming from the men’s deaths. It marks the first time local prosecutors identified a single source for multiple deaths after a yearlong investigation by Portland police, and the Regional Organized Crime Narcotics Task Force.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/09/heroin_dealer_pleads_guilty_to.html

    The article on the dealer further discuss how these men ‘paid human smugglers or coyotes’ to bring illegal immigrants into US to work for them. These men have agreed to forfeit $200,000.00 profit from the last 3years to the federal government.

    What caught my eye was the two mug shots and being related illegals Mexicans.
    One man is getting a ‘reduced’ sentence due to ‘his greater degree of cooperation.

    They referred ‘their business’ as “The Store” with the “sales” like a “dispatch center”.

    And the by-line: Maxine Berstein. (investigative reporter on numerous KH articles)

    Could this be what RS & Assoc. have/ are involved in ?
    Is this why a DEA agent was part of ‘the sting’ ?
    Is this why RS has testified in front of GJ–due to his greater degree of cooperation ?
    Is this what is being trucked up ?

    Could this be why KH kicked the Oregonian reporter(s) out of a presser because of fear the “O” might ‘expose too much’ correlation ?

    Yes, this may not have any thing to do w/KH case but there are 11 + agencies .
    People who ‘smuggle’ people would KNOW how to ‘disappear’ a small boy.

    These two man were a part of a year long investigation by Portland police, and the Regional Organized Crime Narcotics Task Force and prosecuted by a Asst, US Attorney.

    Could this be ‘the why’ person(s) were under investigation BEFORE KH disappeared ?
    Could redhead(s) be buyers and/ or sellers ?
    Could this be where $350K came from ?
    Could redhead(s) have spent money or held back money suppose to pay to supplier ?

    -OR- this could be the wrong tree to be barking at ?
    JMHO and continuing to question…

  25. Rich M says:

    In Veromi, I put in Jaime Sanchez in a search in oregon. I wonder about one of the hits (number 20 I think) that listed an Elizabeth Sanchez Sanchez as a relation. (Ely?) This person was also listed as Elizabeth S Estrada.

    If what you guys were saying about nomenclature is correct (and I admit my understanding is fuzzy), would that make Elizabeth (or is it Ely?) a sister of RS? Could this Ely be Anselmos wife? And could she have taken off because AS was out of jail? So she took off with the kids? Could young Ubaldo be a US Citizen with the social security number they all use for their business endeavours? If young Ubaldo was a citizen, would that then justify the “custodial interferance”?

    Note too that this Elizabeth has connections in Texas and I believe Puerto Rico.

    Side note: A sanchez painting company comes up linked to Ubaldo. The name Bautista comes up but may be unrelated. So does Rodolfo Sanchez and Rodolfo S Estrada. Maria is also listed as Maria Guadalupe Sanchez.

    Forgive me if any of this confuses anyone. I just think it is a useful source of info. I looked up myself and saw former housemates listed who are unrelated to me, so it is somewhat accurate to a point. If someone is a business associate it will be listed there and in some cases, a former homeowner may be listed there.

    Does anyone know how one can go about finding out if a child’s social security number is being used by another adult in the family? I noticed a minor child in my family was listed and I suspect her mother is ruining her credit by using her ss# but I have no way to check it out (or have the father check it out.) Sorry for the unrelated question, just thought someone here might be in the know.

  26. SouthernMom says:

    My question now is this…if LS is involved, then doesn’t everyone assume it was without Terri’s involvement? They were certainly estranged, or so it would appear. Of course, everyone knows that “affairs” like this are on again off again, so maybe they’d made up and resumed their relationship. If they hadn’t reconciled, then you have to assume Terri did this without him or that he did this without her. I’m sure cell phone records would be able to determine if they were still sexting or in contact after the Mother’s Day incident and up to the day Kyron went missing. I wonder if Terri pointed to the LS from the very beginning?

  27. Rich M says:

    Blink said: I said it was a separate issue, not necessary unrelated.

    Let me say why- when we talk about the amount of permutations of names these individuals are using, I am wary of confirming “who is who” as in defined, by their name, because, honestly, I have intel about several individuals also linked to said addresses that have not come up yet.

    B

    Blink thanks for taking the time to clarify. I totally understand what you mean about the permutations of the names and the inability to confirm who is who.

  28. LPB says:

    I took a break for a while and am so happy to see a great new piece Blink! Thank you!

    @all you blinkers: Great info coming from all of yall. Thanks for keeping the case alive.

    @enumclawrose: Thanks for the Sanchez story. Very interesting and whether they are associated or not, I hope the family is safe.

    I knew Roger’s account of the missing family would come back sooner or later. I’d still like to know what came of that family and who they are.

  29. neighbor says:

    Rich M said “… another white truck shows up on the street outside the hillsboro Sanchez nursery address ..”

    That looks like a truck from Washington County. Compare the logo on the door to http://www.co.washington.or.us/
    A short word on white trucks: dust does not show so easily on light colored cars and a 4×4 drive is very helpful during the winter snow.

  30. puzzled says:

    Blink-do you still think that Elsy and kids going missing is still unrelated to this case?

    I said it was a separate issue, not necessary unrelated.

    Let me say why- when we talk about the amount of permutations of names these individuals are using, I am wary of confirming “who is who” as in defined, by their name, because, honestly, I have intel about several individuals also linked to said addresses that have not come up yet.

    B

    ~~~

    which would be the Associates in RS & Associates you have referred to from the beginning of this story. Oh dear!!

  31. puzzled says:

    I must admit I am color blind when it comes to white trucks.. they all look alike to me. But now I GET IT .. LE was not looking for KH’s white truck on the side road, but a LS white truck.

    Hmmm … seems I recall B suggesting TH drove the truck that day because maybe she didn’t want one someone to recognize she was there.

  32. Rich M says:

    Wondering out loud if some of these businesses are not for the purpose of money laundering, if in fact some organized crime comes into play here.

    That property in Hillsboro looks to be very substantive. Is landscaping really such a lucrative business? Perhaps maybe moreso in Oregon but…..really?

  33. Shelly says:

    Blink,

    Will there be info revealed as to the name of the family LE “WAS” looking for (VIA Roger interview-the family that had a child that went to school with Kyron)? Or have they been cleared?

    I have the name, to date, their is no reason to publish it as it relates to Kyron’s case, and it of course would identify the child, so absent a reason to, I am withholding.
    B

  34. Rich M says:

    @Neighbor: agreed, it does look like a similar logo. But I am sure it is simply driving by the property. (If you walk the little man further down the road you see that the truck continues beyond the driveway.)

    I totally hear you on the dirt as well, and the need for a 4wd.

    Washington County Tax assessor website on the parcel of land in question:

    http://washims.co.washington.or.us/InterMap/theDetails.cfm?x_coord=7571690.78649221&y_coord=660430.03512103&theAddress=27195%20SW%20FARMINGTON%20RD.%20HILLSBORO%20OR,%2097123&TLNO=1S2290001204&Account=R397350&GoNav=2

    I cannot tell who owns the property, as well as those adjacent. It is about 2 acres and has a small house on it. There is another lot directly behind it with a home on it and farm land on either side.

  35. panda says:

    @Rich-

    About the money laundering or setting up businesses with dirty money — probably drug money– If this is happening, and it seems likely to me, why would anyone involved risk the business and that of their associates to engage in something like killing or kidnapping a 7-year-old white boy? I don’t get it.

    Kidnapping for ransom is very much on the rise with the Mexican cartels but it does not seem to fit the business model going on in Oregon.

  36. Rich M says:

    This may have no relevance, and is only the Washington County database but here goes:There is a Juan Carlos Sanchez-Sanchez who was arrested within the last week or so who is being held by ICE and was in jail for possession and intent to distribute Meth and Coke.

    http://www.co.washington.or.us/Sheriff/Jail/who-is-in-custody.cfm?alpha=S#

    (For the sleuthers, this site has a ton of reliable, free, useful links for Oregon. http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/OR_Washington.htm )

  37. Midwest Mom says:

    @Neighbor,

    Do you recall an convo you and I had a while back, about a interview with a woman volunteer at skyline, very nice lady. At the time I searched for that video and never found it then dropped looking for it. Did you ever run across it or have anymore info on it?

  38. MariaEl says:

    #32 Rich M says:
    September 14, 2010 at 11:54 am
    Wondering out loud if some of these businesses are not for the purpose of money laundering, if in fact some organized crime comes into play here.
    ~~
    RichM, after reading this business, that business, etc. YES, I thought the same exact thing myself – money laundering. Coverups. I live in SoCal, and believe me, too many times I’ve come across scenarios like this (families living in $1million + homes on a party rental business income???) Anyway, with all the agencies involved – particularly the secret service – I’m kind of thinking this might very well be.

    RE: September 14, 2010 at 9:51 am
    I pray that he is, but unfortunately, no, I do not.
    B
    ~~
    I’ve read Blink’s statements about Kyron perhaps not being alive anymore. Half of me believes this is probably true, but the other half that has faith, just can’t stop praying and hoping for a miracle. I saw a picture of Kaiine the other day, all of this is really wearing him down. Totally understandable. I just hope that there is somebody in his life that can offer a shoulder to lean on/cry on. I can’t imagine ever going through this, although I can imagine doing everything they are doing to help find their child (if it were me in their shoes). My respects to both Kaine and Desiree.

    One more thing, if the LS person/people are key here, then I’m wondering, WHY must TH not be talking? What could be so bad that would make her become silent and not help in the search for Kyron…

    May God be with you, Kyron. You are in the hearts of many, always.

  39. neighbor says:

    @Midwest Mom said “.. interview with a woman volunteer at skyline, very nice lady. … Did you ever run across it or have anymore info on it?”

    Jinnit Powel was in the news a few times. Here are some:
    http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Last-Day-At-Skyline-Elementary-Emotional-96437129.html
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/97449789.html

  40. Shelly says:

    Respectfully, I understand your reasoning for not printing the family name. On the other hand, I do not understand part of your reply to me

    “so absent a reason to”

    Sorry for not understanding this part as everything on here is ambiguous. Could you explain that?

    Sorry, your right, I was vague- I meant unless it becomes case-relevant.
    B

  41. Malty says:

    I just asked my husband about the landscaper
    who worked next door last spring/summer
    from Woodburn what they drove
    white 4×4 white truck double cab
    however the name is different

  42. Midwest Mom says:

    Thanks Neighbor,

    Here is some names that I found associated with Rudy

    Rodolfo E Sanchez
    36
    • Canby, OR
    • Clackamas, OR
    • Woodburn, OR
    • Oregon City, OR
    • Rodolfo Sanchez
    • Luis Lopez
    • Rene Lopez
    • Roberto Lopez Sanchez
    • Florentino Mendoza

    Blink, FYI I am using another computer, hubby has my laptop, somtimes it puts me in spam if I switch

  43. Annals says:

    Rich M says:
    September 14, 2010 at 11:54 am

    “That property in Hillsboro looks to be very substantive. Is landscaping really such a lucrative business? Perhaps maybe moreso in Oregon but…..really?”
    ——————————-

    The short answer to this question is; the the range of income in the landscape business (as that term seems to be used in this blog – very loosly)) is huge. It could be anyhting from the income of a college kid who cuts grass in summer to large growers that supply nurseries and “big box” home improvement stores nationwide.

  44. Rich M says:

    Hmmm…..if this is indeed RS house, it seems like he is living quite comfortably. (Although that is a relative term.)

    http://web5.co.clackamas.or.us/taxmap/map.php?id=22E08BA02000

    3100 square foot home wiht four bedrooms, three baths.

  45. Madilu says:

    Thank you for that article, Ode! Wow! Missed that one…

    B- 2 comments from last night appear in moderation?

  46. puzzled says:

    if the LS person/people are key here, then I’m wondering, WHY must TH not be talking? What could be so bad that would make her become silent and not help in the search for Kyron…

    could be she’s told them all she knows … and she doesn’t know any more.

  47. evie says:

    @ neighbor says: September 14, 2010 at 10:37 am
    “Rich M said “… another white truck shows up on the street outside the hillsboro Sanchez nursery address ..”

    That looks like a truck from Washington County.”

    neighbor, you are great.. I was just looking at logos from various agencies out that way… I knew that truck looked familiar! Freaky, eh?

    I know you will all know why I am amused that for the past week or two, with all the work going on around my corner, that there are no fewer than EIGHT white pickup trucks surrounding me!

    @RichM: You wondered about the landscaping business being so big in Oregon. One of the major export crops here is landscaping plants; so it is common to see big yards like the one ‘behind’ your street view white Washington County truck. : )

    @ riverpearl says: September 14, 2010 at 10:03 am
    We must have been of a like mind this morning while reading the paper. Thank you for posting those stories. Another one I felt had bearing on understanding this investigation is Sunday’s feature: http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/anna_griffin/index.ssf/2010/09/small_penalty_for_mount_hood_s.html
    I hope we do not have to face ‘Some justice is better than no justice’ in the case of Kyron.

  48. enumclawrose says:

    Blinks response to Shelly 09/13 11:19 pm

    We are talking about 2 different families, 2 different events.

    The family they were looking for (Via Roger) had a child that went to school with Kyron and then the Sanchez and their alleged abductor. I can connect LS to a Ubaldo R in Woodburn, yes.

    Puzzled, you had a post a couple of days ago with Elsy @ 955 S Pacific Hwy. Were you able to confirm her to that address? If so, I think that is HUGE, because if, like Blink says, she can connect Ubaldo R in Woodburn, and if he is at the S Pacific Hwy address, to LS (Rudy Sanchez), then Elsy is connected to Rudy.

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