Murder In Mexico: Tiffany Hartley Endures 16 Hours Of Interviews In David Hartley Death

Posted by BOC Staff | David Hartley,Missing and Endangered,Murdered,Tiffany Young-Hartley | Tuesday 19 October 2010 6:00 pm

..” I have nothing to hide. I Have ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide..”


Tiffany Hartley emerged on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 yesterday after her 16th hour of interviews at the Mexican Consulate in McAllen, Texas.

Hartley recounted the events of September 30, ending with the alleged murder of her husband David. Ms. Hartley gave both new testimony and confirmed her previous statements according to reports from the Mexican Attorney General and Ms. Hartley herself, without the presence of an attorney.

According to several statements from Hartley, David was shot “off his jet ski” while the couple was returning from the Mexican side of Falcon Lake, where they briefly took pictures of the historic church on Old Guerrerro. Neither David Hartley nor his Sea Doo watercraft have been recovered.

One of the most baffling aspect of the case, is the fact that Ms. Hartley claims the pair were shot at at as they were driving their jet skis away from alleged “pirates” they both waved a friendly hello to, seconds before.  Tiffany Hartley was uninjured in the attack, and her jet ski was not hit in the gunfire. Although media was alerted last week that tests on a possible blood source on Tiffany’s life vest were due back that afternoon, we were quickly told there would be no updates about the possible blood evidence at this time.

This afternoon, blinkoncrime Editor spoke with Chuck Smith, owner Smith Marina USA about specifics of the Sea Doo RXT.

..Your correct, the RXT has a chip in the starter that is electronically programmed to “match” the owners lanyard key. If he was wearing the lanyard, whether attached to his vest, or in some cases the arm, and he was thrown off the ski, it activates a kill switch and will not start without the key it is programmed to without a factory reprogramming, which of course, one would need the paperwork for. In short, no matter what, they would need his key to start it.

Blink Question: What if he was not attached to the key, and he was shot and flew off the unit “in motion”, this would not shut the engine off, correct?

CS: Correct. The ski would continue in the direction the handlebars were pointing and continue to throttle in that direction.

Blink: How hard are these models to sink?

CS: Virtually impossible. I have never actually heard of, or seen one, sink to the bottom. The way the Coast Guard standards are now with these, they have hulls similar to boats.

Blink: Could enough bullet holes sink it? What about if the contiuum– could that have caused it to flip? Could anyone right it?

CS: No, not unless we are talking morter rounds. I guess in theory an automatic weapon could put enough holes cut it in half if that was the goal, but again, your still going to see shards of fiberglass all over the water, remnants similar to a boat accident or crash. Again, under these circumstances, I don’t see how he could flip it, but if it were, again, harder to see because the bottom is black, but any SAR or Coast Guard deployment knows what abnormalities to look for on the water surface. It would be next to impossible to “right it” in deep water. It would be more likely they would drag it to shallow water.

Blink: Is this chop-shoppable?

CS: Absolutely. There is some after factory devices, similar to lo jack, but the engine and parts are expensive and could easily be sold that way.

Blink: He was wearing a PFD I. In your opinion is that keeping him afloat until he is located if he was left in the water?

CS: Absolutely, unless it was removed, or he and the vest were removed from the water, he would be floating, yes.

As announced this morning on Dana Pretzer commentary, Blink, Editor In Chief of will be discussing the Hartley case this evening live at 9PM EST on Scared Monkeys The Dana Pretzer Show.


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  1. Mermaid14 says:

    Ok, just had to comment on this, sorry for so many posts, but I just read that krgv story. OMG, what a load of BS!! This Sheriff is doing nothing but coming up with ridiculous “out there” stuff trying to do damage control. Due to the amount of time that has passed with absolutely nothing surfacing of a crime, and this little chippie still on all the networks, then holding another rally, you can bet the sheriff has been getting all kinds of calls and complaints.
    First of all now they are telling us there were several US fisherman on the Mexican side of the lake that day?? Where were they??
    Then this photo, how ridiculous. He says it was taken “right after the attack from a helicopter!” How does he know this photo was taken right after the attack and where the heck has it been all this time?
    He says the men are covering their faces and acting suspicious. Hello???!!! That helicopter is just feet from that boat!! You know how loud a helicopter can be when it lands. The men are covering their ears! And I even question whether the photo was taken from a helicopter. It looks like somebody could have been up in a tree, it is just feet from the water. Knowing how dangerous those waters can be, I find it incredible that not only David and Tiffany decided to put their lives on the line, but now several fisherman, AND a “winter Texan” couple from up north that also supposedly heard the shots. Where have all these people been for over 6 months??? Right after that rally in Denver, the sheriff’s phone was ringing off the hook, and he was not returning messages. Now this. He knew he had to concoct something get people off his back. And then to say oh, well, by now the current has washed all the evidence away. Apparently the current has washed everything away within hours of the crime because they found nothing whatsoever, no evidence in the water.

  2. Mermaid14 says:

    Thanks Blink for quashing that rumor. I don’t know how these things get started. Another thing that I read that Sheriff Sigi said was that this “winter Texan” couple also not only heard gunfire, but get this: ” It sounded like a war zone and they heard 3 different calibers of ammunition going off.” Ok, so now this winter Texan couple have become ballistics experts. That is just too over the top.

    Madison Rutherford. Madison Rutherford. Madison Rutherford.

  3. gigi says:

    Blink…you always offer great info that keeps us seeking for truth through researching the scenarios you offer….thanks.

    The problem was that Madison T. Rutherford, 39, of Bethel,
    overestimated the willingness of insurance companies to pay and
    underestimated the abilities of forensic scientists.

    “There’s an old saying that dead men tell no tales,” says prosecutor William Goodwin. “I think Dr. Bass proves that that’s not so true. Dead men do tell tales. If you’re trained to listen properly. That’s what he does and he’s very good at it.”

    Read more:

  4. Mermaid14 says:

    Thanks for those two links. Wow. I sure hope I never stumble upon that body farm in Tennessee in the dark. Yikes!!!

  5. gigi says:

    Another TH interview concerning new witnesses who heard the shots on the day of David’s alleged shooting on Falcon Lake.

  6. TandT says:

    I looked at the photo on the previous link with the guys in a boat taken from a helicopter. I agree, they are covering their ears due to the noise from the copter. Probably out fishing, I did not see any weapons on board. I did notice however a couple of things. One..there is no room for a jet ski or a dead body on that boat. The other thing is that one of these dudes looks really white. I would think she would recall that part for sure..and he is wearing a striped shirt with what appears to be something on his head. I wish I could blow the picture up to see more. Could the white dude be David? Just an observation, if someone knows how to blow up the pic let me know.

  7. Mermaid14 says:

    This question is for Blink or anyone. Ok, let’s say TH is now trying to collect the insurance money. Obviously the insurance company is going to investigate this matter thoroughly. Only they cannot issue a death certificate and right now there is not one.
    My question is, let’s say there is a death certificate and TH goes to collect the money. If the insurance investigators find evidence that this was a faked death, do they then have to report it to authorities or can they just inform TH no dice on the $$. If they do report it, who would they report it to? American or Mexican authorities?
    How would Mexican authorities prosecute this if TH now lives in the U.S?

  8. Mermaid14 says:

    I also think American authorites could prosecute this the same way they did the guy in Alabama that killed his wife on their honeymoon while scuba diving in Australia. The FBI here found evidence on the guy’s computer that he planned the crime in the US. That’s why they were able to prosecute him here. If they can find evidence that TH or DH planned the crime or any part of it while in the US then they have a case right?

  9. Mermaid14 says:

    Sheriff Sigi said that helicopter photo was taken from a CBP helicopter so I did a little research, it stands for Customs and Border Patrol, the aviation division of the border patrol.
    First, I would like to hear from CBP themselves that the photo is authentic, you notice we did not hear that from them only this sheriff.
    He says the photo was taken right after the attack??? Impossible!! They would have seen the other 3 boats. That boat is not one of the ones described by TH, it looks more like a rowboat than a powerboat. Any boat that could catch up to a jetski would have to be a power boat.
    Thirdly those helicopters are HUGE, military style with lots of bells and whistles. So how could anyone hear gunfire if that helicopter was raging overhead right at the scene?? Answer, they couldn’t.
    This sheriff is as bad a liar as TH.
    There is a photo of one of those helicopters in pursuit of a suspected drug boat, the boat in that photo looks nothing like the one that the helicopter is pursuing. The boat in that photo is clearly a bass boat designed for steadiness not for speed.
    Just go to Customs and Border Patrol Aviation website and you can see for yourself.

  10. Mermaid14 says:

    This is what a CPB helicopter looks like:

    hope the link works

  11. Mermaid14 says:

    When you get to the page, scroll down, it’s there.

  12. DesertGirl says:

    wow, Mermaid, thank you. Your post about your observations about the purported helicopter photo was spot on. This will all catch up with those who are/were complicit. It has to, right? Eventually?… Anyway, had to chime in to say thanks for sharing. I just can’t wrap my head around the way his family is accepting all of this.

  13. gigi says:

    TH made an April 18th post to BDHH site. She refers only to herself and does it nine times in a short paragraph. She appears to need to once again let people know that she did nothing. The paragraph states that she wanted everyone to know that her comments section got way more supportive messages than non supportive. If this is true, TH, why are you not posting comments any more? If you check out Justice for David Hartley FB page you will see how some are still questioning the new witness story, etc.

  14. Mermaid14 says:

    DesertGirl, You are welcome. Regarding BDH, what non positive comments does TH mean? There are none on that site. That means that either she deleted them after reading and didn’t post them or she is talking about other sites like this one that I believe she reads on a regular basis and most of them are not complimentary because we don’t buy her con game. I have always felt she was reading here because she seemed to react to things on her site that we had written here. I think the latest “rally” then the bogus statements with no backup from the border patrol on that photo and no names given of witnesses served to make the public even more suspicious. That and still no evidence of a crime whatsoever. And not one piece of paper proving anything that they have said like the dna being David’s. Where is a copy of that written report? They have produced nothing on paper. Why wasn’t Sigi answering his phone or returning messages after the Denver rally? Surely he already had those “witness” statements and that photo. Why didn’t he talk about it then? He waited over a month to make a statement.

  15. Mermaid14 says:

    Hello reporters?? Why haven’t you contacted CBP aviation to authenticate that the photo provided was actually taken from their helicopter and that they were on the scene right after the shooting as the sheriff said?? Why the silence?? If you do not seek truth you are complicit in the scam. Who was flying the helicopter that day? Have you contacted that person to verify? If they were there “right after” the shooting as Sigi said then they too are witnesses. What did they see? They would have to have seen at least one of the three boats right? Why was no one from the boat in that photo taken into custody? Hello reporters???

  16. Gigi says:

    For those still checking here and there are a few of us, please note TH finally posted a new post on her BDHH site. Guess she thought it was time. Still have read nothing about the people who came forward to Sigi…guess he is sitting on names. Mermaid, you said a long time ago LE was complicit in this mess and my naivety toward the law just could hardly believe it. Today, I say you are correct. This is coverup, coverup, coverup….amazing. Still waiting for the day we get a breakthrough. Hang in you guys and thanks for updates.

  17. Mermaid14 says:

    Thanks Gigi. Whether it is law enforcement or government, when evidence is gotten rid of or hidden from public view, or suppressed, you have to ask yourself why. When official stories keep changing repeatedly you have to ask yourself why. When the message keeps changing you cannot trust the messenger.

  18. Mom3.0 says:

    Not sure if anyone is still keeping up on this story… but just in case, here is the latest:

    Both he (Capt. Fernando Cervantes) and Zapata County Sheriff Sigi Gonzalez Jr. report at least three confrontations this month on the Mexican side of the lake between the country’s military teams and the Zetas that control the drug trafficking in the area.

    Gonzalez said during the last incident, “citizens were reporting at least 20 to 24 missiles being fired from a Mexican helicopter.”

    He said they were probably not missiles, but tracer bullets. Each time, the sheriff said, his agency was not notified by Mexican officials.

    Regardless, if they see a chopper in the air, or hear explosions and gunfire, Cervantes said his boats hit the water, “just to be on the safe side.”

    Hartley’s widow said the incidents are further proof the Zetas were responsible for her husband’s death.

    “So for Mexico to say the Zetas were not responsible for the David’s murder is a lie. They did do it,” Hartley said.

    Tiffany Hartley delivered a letter to Hickenlooper on March 30, and met personally with him on Thursday. Letters signed by the governor, Udall, Bennet and Gardner were sent to the state and justice departments Friday. Text from the letters is included below:

    “While Ms. Hartley recognizes the complicated nature of this situation because it happened on the Texas/Mexico border, she has been unable to obtain any recent updates from the FBI regarding the progress of the case. Moreover, the inability to recover her husband’s remains has created numerous difficulties for Ms. Hartley because she cannot obtain a death certificate. She has sought help from the State Department, including the U.S. Consulate in Matamoros, regarding this issue, but has so far been unable to gain final closure…Specifically, we request an update on the status of U.S. involvement in the investigation, as well as information regarding efforts to recover Mr. Hartley’s remains.”

    Since David’s presumed death Sept. 30, Tiffany Hartley has kept pressure on U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials, and Colorado lawmakers have helped push her plea for information and the recovery of David’s body.

    “Despite all these efforts, many questions remain outstanding,” said the letter signed by Gov. John Hickenlooper, U.S. Sens. Mark Udall and Michael Bennett and Rep. Cory Gardner.

    “We don’t know if really there was a search done, they say there was but was there really? Was there really an investigation, is there an investigation on Mexico’s side?,” Hartley told CBS4.

    The letters also highlight the need for a death certificate but that because the Mexican government hasn’t recovered Hartley’s remains, they won’t issue the certificate.

  19. Mom3.0 says:

    Gonna try to repost this because it is not showing”in moderation” on my end-

    Breaking it up into separate posts-

    Please disregard if a duplicate- thanks

    Not sure if anyone is still keeping up on this story… but just in case, here is the latest:

    Both he (Capt. Fernando Cervantes) and Zapata County Sheriff Sigi Gonzalez Jr. report at least three confrontations this month on the Mexican side of the lake between the country’s military teams and the Zetas that control the drug trafficking in the area.

    Gonzalez said during the last incident, “citizens were reporting at least 20 to 24 missiles being fired from a Mexican helicopter.”

    He said they were probably not missiles, but tracer bullets. Each time, the sheriff said, his agency was not notified by Mexican officials.

    Regardless, if they see a chopper in the air, or hear explosions and gunfire, Cervantes said his boats hit the water, “just to be on the safe side.”

    Hartley’s widow said the incidents are further proof the Zetas were responsible for her husband’s death.

    “So for Mexico to say the Zetas were not responsible for the David’s murder is a lie. They did do it,” Hartley said.

  20. zinnia says:

    Thanks for posting an update, Mom3.0. I am still very interested in this case. I’m glad to read that the FBI aren’t moving too quickly to wrap this case up and that the Mexican government isn’t either. Sooner or later Tiffany and possibly David are going to have to answer for what they did,in my humble opinion.
    So, in a case like this where the couple may have racked up some considerable debt, is everything just frozen, or what until a death certificate is issued? I guess they may not have had any debt if they were making money through shady deals. MOO

  21. SouthernMom says:–121519049.html


    13 killed in Falcon Lake gunbattle .by Associated Press
    Posted on May 9, 2011 at 2:26 PM

    MEXICO CITY — The Mexican navy says marines patrolling a lake along the border with Texas discovered a drug gang camp on an island, provoking a gunbattle that left 13 people dead.

    The navy says one marine and 12 gunmen from the Zetas drug cartel were killed in the gunbattle on the island on Falcon Lake, about 45 miles (70 kilometers) northwest of McAllen, Texas.

    The navy said in a statement Monday that the gunmen opened fire when the marines found the camp. The statement said marines seized more than 20 guns, including several assault rifles, after the shooting Sunday.

    The statement said the Zetas were smuggling marijuana from the camp into Texas by speedboat.

  22. Gigi says:

    TH has new posts on BDHH site. It’s late in the central time zone right now and I know you all are as totally wiped out with the CA trial and the search for Holly Bobo as I am and that has certainly taken the focus off of DH on our discussions here on BOC.

    Hope to see you regulars back on here in the next few days talking about this new trip TH has been on and all of her friends she is making. That is a lot of what makes TH seem so fake to me. It is all about her. Thoughts, anyone? Am I misjudging this woman. Well, to that I say take a poly and then we will back off.

  23. DesertGirl says:

    Still here, still keeping up with this one (in addition to Morgan, Kyron, Holly and Caylee). I hold firm to my belief that things are not as TH would have us believe. I wait for things to unravel. And I am reminded of Blink’s “Madison Rutherford” comment every time I check in. Will go check out what’s new on Tiff’s site. Thanks the the moms, zinnia and gigi for the recent thoughts.

  24. Mermaid14 says:

    OMG, well, I’ve been away for awhile, guess I need to check in more often, thanks for updates everyone.
    My take, all one has to do is read BDH posts. Geez, TH is like Sarah Palin in whodunit land! Not one ounce of substance to anything she is saying. Just name dropping and me, me me! Another whirlwind tour.
    I noticed the khou link. Honestly, it was barely a blip on the radar here, do not even remember hearing anything about it on the news.
    I’m beginning to think TH is jonesing for a government job or something. Such kiss ass to politicians that really haven’t done much of anything. Just mutual “users”.
    This whole war on drugs thing is such a farce. Billions wasted on shootemup scenes, military hardware, etc. We are not one inch closer to solving the drug problem. Hello?? Maybe a different approach politicians? Ah, but that would not put alot of $$ in their corporate friends’ pockets. War on drugs. War on terror. Decades and decades of waste and death and no solutions. End of soapbox for today.

  25. Gigi says:

    Interesting. Report lists DH incident as an assault…not a homicide.

    Well now, that puts a dent in a request for a death certificate.

  26. Mermaid14 says:

    Funny how the article says assault, then says Hartley’s corpse has not been found. Rather peculiar analysis.
    CIA still has heavy involvment in the area which is one reason why the turmoil will never end until they decriminalize marijuana.
    CIA also heavily involved in the Middle East seeking to destabilize and get control of drugs there, also oil, lithium, uranium and whatever else they can exploit. Wherever those 3 letters go, nothing but bad follows.

  27. zinnia says:

    Mermaid14, I totally agree with your view in regards to decriminalizing drugs. It seems to be a huge success in Portugal. I just wish we had more courageous politicians out there willing to stick their neck out on this issue.,8599,1893946,00.html

  28. Mermaid14 says:

    Zinnia, there are now very large numbers in Congress in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. Actually that is not the problem. The problem is the CIA runs everything that goes on in foreign countries. People think our military is running the wars. Sorry, no. CIA and privatized mercenary armies are now running the majority of wars we are involved in, and you notice how we keep getting involved in more and more of them. The lawmakers will not stand up to these thugs. They know full well the war on drugs is a farce.

  29. isfahan says:

    @Mermaid14, zinnia, Gigi, Mom3.0. and others still interested in justice for David Hartley: check out onthetexasborder.blogspot–”Borderline Madness.”

    Some are checking all the lies, and trying to knock them down, one by one.

  30. isfahan says:

    50.Mermaid14 says:
    April 15, 2011 at 10:54 pm
    Almost forgot, read this about a week ago. Is it true that the jet ski that Tiffany returned to the US shore on was actually David’s? This was mentioned on some website, cannot remember which. Blink, is this just some rumor? I remember when I read it the person was telling it as if it were a known fact.

    It is impossible it was David’s. It’s hers.

    Blink- I am curious to know why you think it’s “impossible” the ski was David’s?


    Has anyone thought it more than unsettling, weird, and very telling that neither Tiff nor Sigi ever published a picture, or made a poster of the “missing” jet ski?

    How about neither Tiff nor Sigi publishing, or even mentioning the visible registration number of the “missing” jet ski?

    Wouldn’t you think, in their uncountable media appearances, Tiff and Sigi might have just once shown a photo, described the ski, or released the registration number of a “stolen ski” belonging to a “murdered” and “missing” person?

    This is the number of the “missing” ski: TX: 8430KA.

    This is the number of the one Tiff came back on: TX: 3671AX.

    What about the media (from the lowest local, to highest national outlets) never picking up on this obvious and deliberate oversight?

  31. isfahan says:

    I agree with Mermaid14, and anyone else, who believes that marijuana should be decriminalized, at the very least, or just plain legalized.

    Why this country wastes billions every year on totally ineffective “drug interdiction” is beyond comprehension. How many US agencies besides the CBP, BP, LE agencies, and the CIA, to mention only a few (not to mention US businesses), have a huge financial interest in keeping the status quo?

  32. isfahan says:

    For the address of the blog,, referred to above:

    Among many details we found on the full 911 call, never released by the MEDIA, was Tiffany’s repeatedly claiming that David was “left by the church,” “by the church,” “…leave her husband behind because she was involved in a shooting….” “He was left behind by that church.”

    Tiffany claimed in many media interviews the Hartley’s were halfway back to the US when attacked by “pirates.” She also claimed they [Th and DH] had been gone from the church for 5-10 minutes at 40-50 mph, when the pirates approached. Then the “pirates” chased them, putting them further from the church.

    How far would that be from Old Guerrero? By my calculations pretty far. But listen to the full 911 call.

    How could anyone, from law enforcement to MSM, both dangerous jokes, miss this one giant discrepancy (and so many others)?

    No one, who “remembers” her own “heroism” in such detail, with every telling of “the story,” could forget if her husband was felled by bullets in front of the church, or miles from it.

    Notice that Tiffany never asks for any kind of help for David in that 911 call!! Plenty of alibi building though.

    Check out the time the 911 call was really made.

    Check out the Zapata County Sheriff’s Incident/Offense Report, too –”Possible murder.”

  33. isfahan says:

    Remember Tiffany Hartley’s life vest, the one that should have been blood-soaked, but only had a “speck of blood”?

    Well, when you read the Incident/Offense report from the Zapata County Sheriff’s Office, you will read: “No Eviidence Gathered.”

    Where and when did they get this life vest to test? Hmmmmmmm.

    I, for one, would like to know whose vest was tested?

    Have they heard of Chain of Custody, a procedure followed and required when evidence is gathered in a criminal investigation (except in Zapata County, Texas).

  34. gigi says:

    July 20, 2011 Brownsville TX: House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Secur

    Well, well, well…Tiff will have her day.

  35. ross says:

    13 killed in clash on Mexico-U.S. border lake

    (CNN) — Twelve suspected members of the Zetas drug gang and a member of Mexico’s Navy were killed in a shootout on an island in a lake that straddles the U.S.-Mexico border, authorities said Monday.

    The Mexican Navy said the shootout occurred Sunday on Falcon Lake, located between Texas and the Mexican state of Tamaulipas, after troops patrolling the area spotted a camping area on an island.

    The suspected drug traffickers used the island for storing marijuana to be transported by boat to the United States, the Navy said in a statement.

    After the shootout, the Navy said it seized guns, ammunition and bullet-proof vests from the island.

    Falcon Lake drew the attention of law enforcement authorities on both side of the border last September after an American man on a personal watercraft was reportedly ambushed by attackers and shot in the head.

    continued at link

  36. Mermaid14 says:

    Wow, they actually published an incident report on this crime? That’s a first. Do you have a link to where I can read it??
    That is proof positive that the Sheriff lied when he said that the vest was in the custody of the Zapata county sheriff’s office after it was seen on the Today show. It was never even submitted for evidence, most likely because there was no evidence on it. Yes, the jet ski registration numbers seemed to be in question by some other bloggers and it was stated that the registration number that was on Tiffany’s was actually the number to David’s. I too find it suspicious that nothing was ever said about his jet ski. We know they couldn’t sink the thing, it’s practically impossible. It would also be very hard to lift onto another boat. Somebody had to have driven that jetski back to shore.

  37. Mermaid14 says:

    I think its about time somebody paid a visit to that family ranch in Lasalle Colorado. A ranch usually covers alot of acres and you can hide people and things pretty well.
    Also does anyone know if any attempts have been made at collecting David Hartley’s life insurance? Surely she would be going after this.
    The insurance company will most assuredly conduct an investigation before letting go of any money, especially in a case like this where you have no body or even evidence of a crime.

  38. Mermaid14 says:

    It’s been awhile since I have done any research on this so I have been reading some newer articles on the story. I also viewed a video of TH on “the ranch”. She looks and acts miserable, oh not because David is gone, but because she is “stuck” there, probably until she can get her insurance payout. She jumped and said “Ew gross” when one of the cows touched her sleeve. This is NOT a farm girl. I am beginning to believe this is not a scam the two of them cooked up. Yep, I am going for cold blooded killing. I also just read that David’s jetski might have been used as partial payment for the crime. That jetski is alive and well somewhere, David is probably not. What led me to finally think murder is that she continues to be completely stoic, still seeks the limelight and seems to relish interviews. It was also mentioned that the beheading of the investigator may have been a ruse by the Mexican authorities to see how she would react. And she reacted with the same stoicism to that man’s death whom she said had been trying to help her as she did to David’s death. I never really thought about it that way,if that is what happened, smart thinking on the part of the Mexican law. I think she planned this when they were living in McAllen. She talked about how they were fighting over furniture. I think they were fighting over alot more than just that. There is no way Sheriff Sigi can insist she take a polygraph and they have no evidence or probable cause, and the crime did not happen in his jurisdiction. I would also like to know about her background, say other boyfriends and such, does anyone know? Past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior. Maybe I have been watching too much of the Anthony trial but this woman Tiffany also never showed any real grief or trauma of this event. Never shed a tear.

  39. Mermaid14 says:

    Blink, totally offtopic but didnt’ have any other way to contact. Cannot find a link on your site to Robyn Gardner/Aruba case. Do you have one???

  40. gigi says:

    Should be interesting to see how Rick Perry will utilize Tiff when he makes his announcement to run for President. Tiff just could not thank him enough when David first was missing.

  41. Mermaid14 says:

    Thanks for link Gigi. Cannot believe this woman went to a foreign country like this, especially one with the reputation of Aruba. Her friends say she knew this guy had a questionable background. His snorkeling story isn’t holding water, pardon the pun. My guess is her “friend” caughter her texting boyfriend back home and became enraged.
    Regarding Perry, God help us all if he becomes President, it would be worse than Bush. You;d think that he would have announced his decision in Texas, this is where all his support originated, but no,it’s on to bigger and beter things. Incidentally his wife hired a divorce attorney back in 2004, rumors abounded of infidelity. He is either a closet gay or another John Edwards. Look for Karl Rove to try and destroy him.

  42. gigi says:


    This will all be worth watching as Governor Perry’r campaign moves forward. Tiff alread has a new posting about him on her page. She says he is really backing her quest for attacking Mexican cartels and such.

    This case in Aruba get weirder. He tried to cash the life insu. policy the day after she disappeared. Now his film in camera shows “worse than porn” pics with her. But authorities say she looked calm in the pics. On the homefront her sister says no, she would never do that…weird…quick money for her??? or simply her thinking a neat vacation with a friend and then rohynol (sp_) comes into play>>something bad wrong. Hope Aruba LE does not drop the ball. They appear to be doing all they can.

    This is reminding me of the case of Lesa Buchanan and Christ Koulis more everyday.

  43. gigi says:

    Sigi Gonzales is retiring.

    shocker, in the wake of Perry’s bid for office no less.

  44. isfahan says:

    @Mermaid14 — It’s been long while since I was on here and saw you asked a question, months ago, about the Incident Report. It was not published per se, but we have it, or parts of it.

    Long ago I posted a link several times here for “onthetexasborder.blogspot.” (I hope that’s correct; it’s late.) That is where much this is posted.

    In that blog are a lot of interesting things about the Hartley case. I hope you and gigi and others will go there. You will find the report and more, other docs, and a lot more of the 911 call than the MSM played over and over. The extended call has very different info that what Tiffany gave later about where David was shot, as an example.

  45. isfahan says:

    Mermaid14–The address for the blog with a lot of information, not requested by the lazy and biased MSM, is in my July 18 post above. I tried to copy the link here, but it didn’t work. Good luck.

  46. gigi says:

    or type in Borderline Madness

    Yes, it has documents from Sigi and good info

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