Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Grief Expert Sally Karioth Takes The Stand.. Lots Of Sidebars.. Beer Reviews
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If looks could kill… Casey is mad! The fake crying, the fake wiping of tears her sideshow never ends. Jeff Ashton tied everything together. I disagree that Caysee was molested by Lee and or her father-being molested is just too convienent like all of her other lies and imaginery statements.
Bozo…opps, Baez is trying to start with his posterboard presentation and his blue-light special defense.
jb cannot ‘admit’ the photo is 10 yrs old or that ICA is 14-14y/o … just another ‘sneaky’ move ,,,
JP states STATE use for the record 77mins & 8sec of the 4hrs give,,
Can someone tell me if Jeff Ashton brought up the computer searches? I watched the entire thing (that’s one powerful man) but don’t recall him bringing it up. Thanks so much.
Jeff also got in the cadaver dog hits in the backyard and the borrowing of the neighbor’s shovel. It was a great closing !!!!! Oh goody – next the Defence. That will be the “George put Caylee in a trash bag and threw her in the swamp – after Caylee drowned in the pool and nobody called 911 “defence.” Or, Roy Kronk did it. Anybody but Casey. What’s with her ears? – she looks like that little critter from Star Wars. Discussing Casey’s imaginary friends….I think Baez is hoping for an insanity defence. Baez wants to use a 15 year old Casey photo. Jeff said no. Hey, Jose, how about her mug shot. Especially the one with her inmate number under it – really brings out her best features…..
the so called imagery ‘friends’ will surround a current photo of ICA @ 22y/o
JP states once he STARTS reading the charges to Jury NO ONE will be allowed to leave or move or anything …a “lock down’ if you will of court room …
Blink~ I liked your 2.5hrs for jb more than 4hrs …lol
Think STATE is waiting for their close after jb
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@Sheri says:
July 3, 2011 at 10:28 am
Can someone tell me if Jeff Ashton brought up the computer searches? I watched the entire thing (that’s one powerful man) but don’t recall him bringing it up. Thanks so much.
Can the jury still see the accused with the easel-weasel pushed up in front of their faces?
The key question he told the jury at opening that can never be answered is how Caylee died? In otherwords, the drowning story he told them wasn’t to be believed then or now. There you have it.
Baez sounds as if he is up there defending himself and his own shortcomings rather than defending his client-
When does he actually get to the evidence?
His biggest fear is emotion? ummm dont you mean common sense?
AJMO
Accusing the State of dishonouring Caylee’s memory . . .
what an idiotic cad (IMO).
Poor wittle Casey crying on cue.
jb: “there were moments when everyone in this courtroom felt something deep down inside.”
Gas maybe? Jeez. That’s the rhetorical analogue of cardboard. Wake me when he’s done.
oh for gods sake child abuse JB is often a hidden abuse- an a 2 year old loves their mommy no matter what.
Wow
Who is the woman sitting btwn Jeff & Linda?
Love the 3 sitting with their arms across their chests.
I submit that refrigerator magnets are not evidence…I sure hope the jury isnt buying this bogus statement…
Even after the frustration of thus far unprosecutable, mysterious cases like our Kyron, like Holly Bobo, Jaque Waller and so many others I personally find it difficult to consider taking the life of Casey Anthony. Now that this case has gotten to where we want all those others to get, I can’t bring myself to wish death on this obviously misguided, if not mentally disturbed young woman…jmho
@Riverpearl.. Thank you
…a little concerned that George may kronk Baez over the head, he looks SO angry! Why does JB hate George so much?????
Well JB… there was abuse… neglect and oh yeah, abuse so intense she is DEAD
Now Showing: The Nonsense Duhfence starring nowayjose
IF I was on the jury & listening to how jb is talking to the other jurors & myself, I would be offended …he is talkind down to the jury …talking as if they have been unable to “follow the witness testimony & evidence presented” …I find his closing offensive … oh, cannot believe jb used “slut x2 & counting” which the STATE never said … Defense says what happened to Caylee was sudden, not deliberate …and “checkbook STATE case” …say whaaaaat?? WHO was it getting $275,000K+ and let us not forget those out of country witnesses … they flew Dr Sally from London … & they used many feds, too … but hey the car is irrelevant ??? … Casey should have reported the death.. The state shouldn’t have overcharged because it was entertainment …WTH???… jury is to hold George accountable for knowing car out of gas but NOT ICA for not reporting death … says IF STATE had tracked George there would be more answers w/ Caylee’s death … he is basically throwing EVERYONE under the bus EXCEPT ICA … but w/ his photo line up on his big board & says George/1-individual vs 10 people who did not smell decomp because George is the one to ‘gain’ from pointing out the smell … oh my, the neighbor w/the shovel are in on it too … and now we”re back to “spit and food garbage & altered evidence” … oh here it goes the computers & how the jury was MISLED … but he actually said the “altered garbage evidence is a CANCR” …RECESS lunch …
and of course, on cue, ICA “cry/tissue time”….
Casey 3.0? Say it isnt so Blink
Can I change my name now?
OMG, that was my absolute first thought. I was like, Mom 3.0 is gonna have a snit, lol.
If you want to, of course, but since your the real deal I dont know I could get used to calling you anything else.
Switzerland?
B
Re: JB closing…….zzzzzzzzzz…someone please wake me when it is over.
This is the first part of Jeff Ashton’s closing. More to come: http://www.wftv.com/video/28434230/index.html
Blink~
Depending when the jury reaches a verdict, if it comes evening hours, would JP hold it over for the next morning ??
Or how does the whole “jury has a verdict work” ??
Thanks
The verdict is read within the framework of the hours of deliberation. In other words, if Judge says they can work till X, if they reach a verdict, the announcement is made, and they atty’s have some time to get there if they have left. They have made extensive press conference arrangements following the announcement of the verdict, but is dependent on the verdict that are already in place I should note.
We have not been privy to the Judge’s conversations with this jury, they may have already established some parameters, including, but not limited to, their desires as to the hours and arrangements of deliberation.
They will have this case late afternoon, and begin choosing a foreperson. Alternates will find out they are alternates, and they already asked in the first few days if they are, and not needed for deliberation, could they be released. Alternates do not deliberate, and if one was needed to fill in in the event one of the other jurors could not fulfill their duties in the deliberation phase, they start all over with “the new guy”.
B
JB closing argument = Blah blah blah. Sleepy time.
OMG the boards. He cannot even put his own boards up, he have to have 2 people helping him. JA did not have people standing by on cue to hand him the evidence he wished to show the jury. Yes his closing argument is definately defending himself and not his client. He knows there is no defense for her.
FYI to JB Child abuse is obvious when you end up with a dead child.
Did anyone else notice that GA and CA not sitting together? She probably mad that he did not lie for their daughter like she did.
Kudos to the entire prosecution team.
I am hoping on rebut JA or LDB piss Casey off so badly she gets up and shrieks at them. I know I can only dream. ~sigh~
With ya, it could happen, she looked ready for some unglueing in Ashton’s opening.
B
As Jury is leaving for lunch JB is trying to smile at them I think his lips curved up ounce or twice. But not the smile we seen from the begining of the trial where I actually believed Jury was smiling back at him.
The dramatic Cancer was in reference to the Computor searches that would indicate premeditation or perjury what ever you wish. Ding Ding Lunch time JB wants right after dramatic Cancer statement.
My head was nodding at the begining of JBs start.
I hope STATE will remind jury that ICA was asked if this was an accident very early on & she said NO…
and that from opening statements by jb, he said oh it was, Cayle was NOT missing, that ICA KNEW she was dead June 16th …
after just this ‘start’ w/jb I crringe to think there’s more of him, CM, & finally jb again ‘….
it will be a very looong 4hrs ….
just think what could of happened IF ICA had got the full 55= days … would the car evidence as it was if you will been available in 3 wks or more time elapse … it makes your mind wander what she had planned for Caylee’s b-day … what great trip that she would use to keep CA @ bay??
Hi Everyone,I am always here reading and watching, thank you all so much for the great info and brilliant, insightful comments. It has helped me get through this trial. I have watched from day 1 like most of you and immediately was drawn to Caylee’s case.
I was feeling anxious this morning.I thought JA was great,concise,and emotional. JA means what he is saying and has the victim Caylee on his mind. When JB started his close I started to feel sick to my stomach. I actually had that strong a feeling, I went and took a mild tranquilizer. He is so distasteful to me. The worst attorney I have ever seen. JB cannot form a sentence without a mistake. He gets giddy while he becomes more and more obnoxiuos.LBD is letting him hang himself. He said “cut the cheese”. OMG, he thinks that he is cute and funny and he actually made me nauseated. I feel that LDB will be supremely clear,factual and blast JB + ICA out of the courtroom.Today in FL there are many good and honorable people,there are also who have no idea what that is.My prayers are for all who love Caylee. I believe she was an Angel sent here for a reason that we can’t understand. Caylee accomplished what was needed of her. Angels jobs many times are not pleasent. We are all sent here for a reason. Thank God that I have not had the burden that this family has faced. Thank you all.
what in the hell did baez say about the cheese? … who cut the cheese! really you jackhole, what says you Blink? even my hubby burst out on that one – what a arse! i say again… the Cheese stands alone
Blink, we all hear about the infamous Juror #4. Do you think she will totally throw a wrench into deliberations and cause a hung jury?
no idea
B
26.Riverpearl says:
July 3, 2011 at 12:04 pm
just think what could of happened IF ICA had got the full 55= days … would the car evidence as it was if you will been available in 3 wks or more time elapse … it makes your mind wander what she had planned for Caylee’s b-day … what great trip that she would use to keep CA @ bay??
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Riverpearl IMO the car evidence would still be there. I remember the defense bug guy stating that the car still smelled when he looked at it 2 years later. AND that was after the carpet had been removed. Also IMO she would have gone out of the country maybe never to return. She was not able to gon on the trip with her friends because of Caylee.
Josie…..Angels come for lessons to be learned.
Where is Lee during states closing?
Talked to Anthonys in elevator. Mood was lighter than expected. Cindy switched seats w/Lippman bc tall guy blocking view. #CaseyAnthony
(from Bob Kealing) on twitter re: why G&C may not be sitting together.
Riverpearl says:
July 3, 2011 at 12:04 pm
(snipped)
… it makes your mind wander what she had planned for Caylee’s b-day … what great trip that she would use to keep CA @ bay??
JMO . . . she may have been planning a trip to California and was perhaps working on MarkH. to supply the transportation.
But like Jeff Ashton said, if the car wasn’t towed and Cindy hadn’t tracked her down, he believes that the Jeff Hopkins story was formulated to be used a long-term excuse and she just would have continued with it – - – they were working on a relationship, he was wealthy, could lead to an elopement, maybe even in Europe . . .
Also JMO, I think it was her plan with the gas cans purchased with Amy that she was going back to put gas in her car and retrieve it, but it already got towed.
IIRC LeeA has only been in court when he was to testify … he hasn’t been much for ‘supporting his parents or his sister w/his presence …
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Justice says:
July 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Where is Lee during states closing?
@New Bee says:
July 3, 2011 at 12:21 pm
But remember a witness said people just replace the whole liner …. IF, if she had remain in Orlando or Florida …where ever in US she could of taken the car … but yes, out of the country would of been tempting to her … remember the last time she was taken into custody ?? She was switching cars under the overpass … thank heavens LE was following her … IIMO she was gonna run ….
How about when Baez offered into evidence something that was identified as defense evidence FU and he started laughing as did the witness on the stand at that time.
@New Bee says:
July 3, 2011 at 12:21 pm
ICA had no money to go to Puerto Rico & Caylee was dead @ the time the ‘trip’ happen …
IMO Caylee had nothing to do w/ her ‘ability’ to go on trip …
AJMHO
Justice says:
July 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm
“Where is Lee during states closing?”
Hopefully removing his sister’s stuff out of Hopespring.
ib/DT 3 hrs 15 mins remaining … tick tock …
I love this prosecution team. JA was wonderful. I have to say however that I wish there could have been mention of the ‘trigger’ that set Casey off the night of June 15th/June 16th. I don’t understand why the prosecution couldn’t bring in the fight between Cindy and Casey. It wouldn’t be hear-say if there were sworn statements made by Cindy’s mother after Cindy revealed what happened that night – meaning the choking fight. That is powerful stuff. Cindy’s mother stated that Casey took off with Caylee THAT NIGHT. That’s the ‘trigger’ for me. JA brought up the fact that Caylee was starting to talk and would blow Casey’s cover – but that’s not the ‘trigger’ I’m looking for. It doesn’t explain why Casey picked THAT NIGHT to murder Caylee. Casey was so enraged that night, she killed Caylee to get back at her mother and to put an end to the burden that Caylee had become. Pam Pleasea’s version is NOT the first time I’ve read about this. It came up shortly after Casey was arrested the first time. Was it never followed up? I was waiting for this to come out during the trial, but obviously it never did. Just wondering why?
Quick Poll
Is Casey Anthony Guilty or Innocent?
She is guilty of murder
60.44%
She is guilty of a lesser charge
29.67%
She is not guilty
9.89%
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/03/casey-anthony-trial-verdict-poll_n_889038.html
Hi All, anyone know how I can get warning of the verdict is coming in? I’m in the UK so there is a 5 hr. time difference but I haven’t missed a second of live streaming of the Trial right from jury selection. Any advice gratefully received.
Jeff Ashton, Yuri Melich, and even to some degree George, who said again and again that the car smelled like human decomp….my heroes, Caylee’s heroes. Jeff was so passionate in his closing. There is nothing that Baez can say to refute the overwhelming testimony, as much as he may try. Hold on Baby Girl! Justice is coming!
Ugh oh, is ICA in the back having some kind of breakdown. ??
Jeff Ashton is incredible-thank the Lord for prosecutors like him. One of baby Caylee’s many angels here on earth standing, speaking strong for truth. I inserted this later: warning any readers: overly long, verbose, over emotional and mostly selfish on my part. I tried to edit, but too attached to my pov and emotions. I apologize in advance.
Thanks much Cbickel for your kind comment. TGF, you too, always sharp, right on target. I was not clear in my self righteous judgment-rant on the Anthony family. I failed to say that Nanny was a “supposed” nanny-I never believed she existed, but I failed to clarify this. I think I just assume everyone knows “Nanny” never existed. IMO, how her parents and Lee could have ever ever believed their daughter had a “nanny” is beyond the beyond to me? Babysitters are one thing, nannies, another. LOL. As Ashton continued his argument, the lies of KC stunned and numbed me in their magnitude and intricacies. The deceptions by this this woman, and her arrogance, her bravado, are almost legend-in the manner of Manson, etc…. Anyway, TGF, thanks for allowing me to clarify that point.
Survivor, my heart hurt reading your post. My step sister, yet true sister in spirit, and you, are true heroines in my book. The world is truer and brighter b/c of people like you both, who say no to the lies of evil, who do the extraordinary hard, tiring, unseen work, that stops the cycle of violence and adds to ‘peace on earth’. I don’t have words to share with you on how profound I feel you are. The story of how you began to reclaim you and your life, with a mirror and observing yourself at the level of expressions, is so touching…and says so much…I see your beauty and grace, and hard, hard work. The world is better b/c of you. I say this with respect and so much admiration and I recognize this d/t the witnessing of the lifework of my sister and her evolution.
Her FOO had turned her into a parroting ‘liar’, b/c she was truly taught to lie from 3 or 4 on. She compartmentalized her true self, and on the surface became the puppet of her perp father. We all grew up with her outrageous and subtle lies, her histrionics and crazy-to us/but sane-for her, behavior. We vilified her for this, even hated her for her ridiculousness and transparency of lies. I am ashamed to admit this. We, my sibs and me and our peer group, scapegoated her in our teens, while my father and her mother struggled, were baffled, alternately enraged, saddened and disappointed with her behavior. Unwittingly we all conspired together to make my sister ‘bad and wrong’, in making her life more confusing, and helping to place the truth of who she truly was further from her. I feel so complicit in adding to her self hatred. I have much regret over this-is telling of my shallowness and meanness at that age. However she had, thank God, her “Come to Jesus” moments in her mid 20′a, and began slowly to ‘wake’ up to what had been done to her, get help and do the quiet, lonely and extremely difficult task of seeing and reclaiming her reality and selfhood. In witnessing her slow, hard transformation, she gave me a mirror as well to begin to see myself-and the world in a new way as well. B/c of her work and depth, she gave me the appreciation and gift of soul, spirit, of trying to serve the highest truth. She by her example, showed me how exquisitely sensitive we as beings are made. How if we are lucky enough to choose well and see choices around us, our lives can be art, can be love embodied, love in action. She was my mirror Survivor. I am so grateful you posted today…..OMG this has gotten tediously long and selfish, sorry.
Survivor, you said this better than I ever could. I am terribly sorry you were subjected to this violence. From rural Texas you are a Shining Lone Star, figuratively and literally……..I have a wish for you dear Lady and I hope I’m not overstepping by saying this: my wish for you is to not “despise” your past but to despise what was done to you in your past-and maybe this is what you meant. I only mean to say that your past and what was done to you was not your fault. When you became a young woman you took an opportunity to set yourself free from oppression and evil and do better. You were faced with impossible circumstances that would have killed the average person. That you are here and alive and posted what you did is a miracle and testament to your basic goodness. I would not have survived what my sister did-I know this,and I live knowing that during my teenage years I made her life harder. I hate this about me and wish I had known better. In you I see a strong brave honest woman.
Maybe oddly, now that KC’s in jail, on trial for her life, has her opportunity to come out of the trance of her lies. admit what she has done, pay the price, and finally live in/serve truth/life. Maybe not. Survivor, I know we disagree on whether or not she was abused. Doesn’t matter really. Something awful was, is, afoot in this case. IMO, I don’t think individuals live in vacuums, that they are choiceless and that a sociopath is solely ‘born’ one and will die one, but IDK. I just see so many parallels in my sister’s life and KC’s that I project my version of reality here. OMG again, this has gotten longer and longer…I am so emotional over this whole deal and this is my refuge for these feelings, sorry to all for this. I want justice and peace for all victims…I pray for Caylee to be honored.
Ashton has given perfect motive imo. Caylee was becoming verbal-on the verge of truth telling. How utterly ironic! The child was becoming ‘dangerous’ in her innocence and joy! It was going to be KC and her lies that would live or the baby who represented the truth that had to die. Who would have the power and last word? Caylee’s new hopeful life meant ‘death’ to KC. I do believe Caylee was a sacrifice to the ‘god’ of LIES that this family worshipped in practice. In the Anthony family it is always about who has the last word. (“Poor” KC, that Baez has the last word in this closing argument must be sheer torture for her. She is crying as he drones on and on-probably b/c he is bumbling through this and “cutting the cheese”, can you believe it?) Anyway this baby never had a chance. Again, IMO, Caylee could have been on the verge of ‘becoming’ a brainwashed liar if she had lived with her crazy family and grown up…this is where my sister learned to sacrifice herself and tell her father’s lies for the sake of his survival, and her survival was dependent on his…sorry I’ve been so long in memory lane here, this is so close to my history…….. Anyway for me now, premeditation has been outlined firmly and I pray the jury approaches their task with clear hearts and minds.
As much as I detest KC, I pray for the grace to somehow grasp the notion that she too can reclaim herself somehow–hopefully in prison for life. I pray to feel her humanity and recognize I am so lucky to not be her-as Blink said so well above.
Strangely today I feel Caylee’s love extending to her mother from heaven, forgiving her and shining light in her mother’s darkness. Maybe offering her a ray of light to potential redemption. I feel Caylee’s grace in God. This notion goes against my desire to see KC suffer in hell for eternity for what she did. Survivor, I think you have been my ‘light and mirror’ today for this forgiving thought to even occur. Thank you for sharing some of your story with us. I will hold you in my prayers. Sorry to all for the length of this and thanks to any who’ve stuck it out. Blink, please edit as you see fit.