Jennifer Kesse Breaking News: Witness Statement Points To Someone At Work- Kesse Family and OPD Press Conference Scheduled
Update-Podcast of Interview with DANA PRETZER
…”Your daughter seems to have vanished. We do not know how or why, and we really have nothing to go on.”
If you can possibly imagine hearing those words, which is exactly what Drew and Joyce Kesse were told about their missing daughter Jennifer in 2010. After an exhaustive and fruitless 4 + years searching for the 24 year old enterprising analyst for Central Florida Investments, the very agency tasked with reviewing the case gave the Kesse’s their latest emotional contusion.
…”I begged for an FBI review of the case, but at the time, I did not know that only meant that they would review the case and provide recommendations. I had always been told that the FBI was the best investigators out there. Those words rendered us despondent yet again.”- Drew Kesse
Island Girl
Jenn Kesse was in love. At 24, she owned her condo, made an excellent living just 2 years out of college and was contemplating the “big step” with her boyfriend of one year, Rob Allen.
Rob, an Englishman, lived in South Florida about two hours away from Jennifer. He had his own career successes and a prior marriage that left him gun shy.
The couple was at a crossroads, and the impromptu trip to St. Croix spent with friends and members of Rob’s family was an important one for the relationship.
Jenn phoned her family from the island, and was jubilant.
“…Dad, what kind of rum do you drink- I am in the shop and I don’t and I am in the store here and I want to bring you back something ..”
“Why are you calling me on your vacation and you do not need to bring us anything go enjoy yourself..”, Drew told his thoughtful first born.
While she was away, with her permission, Jennifer’s younger brother Logan Kesse was enjoying a male bonding endeavor at big sisters new condo in Orlando. Jenn gave Logan a set of keys over Christmas.
Logan’s posse et al traveled from the family home in Bradenton and arrived Friday January 20th.
The weekend was a great time had by all, the condo was restored to its pre-frat status and the worst kerfuffle was that Travis Bourguignon, childhood friend of both Jennifer and Logan, absently left his new work- issued cell behind.
Jenn and Rob returned to his home via Miami due to flight cancellations Sunday evening.
Jenn left Ft. Lauderdale straightaway Monday morning at 6am for the commute to her job in Ocoee.
She arrives by 8 , works a full day and is walking out of the building with her supervisor, John Willman, when she rings her family from her cell.
At 6:15 PM Jenn is on her cell with Mom and Dad while leaving the office. Logan chimes in to ask sis to FedEx Travis’s phone as he needs it for work. Jenn commits to sending it overnight the following day, she reminds him she had not even been back to the condo to locate it yet.
Enroute to her condo at Mosaic at Millenia Jenn was gushing about her trip as each family member passed the phone.
This conversation will be the last time Jennifer’s family heard her voice.
As often happens during Caribbean rendezvous- things gelled for the couple, and they decided that they wanted to take the next steps and move in together. The “who and the where” to be decided upon return to their respective “real worlds”. The conversation about the “real world” began as Jenn spoke to Rob shortly after her family; the couple ended up in the familiar back and forth regarding who would have the easiest move and so forth.
At 9:57PM Jenn speaks to Rob on her landline for the last time.
When Jenn misses an 11:15 am meeting the following Tuesday morning, Joyce Kesse gets a call that Jenn did not make it in, and as every Mother very close to their daughter does, she KNEW.
Joyce Kesse knew immediately her child was in some sort of distress and in minutes had mobilized the family convoy to Orlando. They arrived at approximately 1:30 after calling the manager on the way and learning Jenn’s car was not there.
The Kesse’s would not leave their missing daughter’s home for 8 months as it became the “Find Jennifer Kesse” headquarters.
Upon arrival, Logan Kesse began banging and kicking doors in the Mosaic at Millenia condo complex he had spent last weekend. With very little occupancy came scant tenants, and even less information.
The Kesse’s discovered Jennifer’s shower appeared to be wet, a damp towel draped over the dryer, and her bed appeared as if she slept on one side with outfits described as “suitable for work” draped on the other.
Jenn’s duffle from her trip lay unpacked in the foyer. The pepper spray she had to remove from her keys due to flight regulations lay on the dresser she restored herself.
Her blow-dryer was on the vanity, her pj’s lay on the bath mat outside of the shower, the mail she retrieved when she got home from work stacked neatly on her counter.
3537 Conroy, Unit #2226 once the proud accomplishment of a beautiful and driven young woman, became a crime scene.
Perhaps.
Victimology 101- Low Risk
Jennifer Kesse was very close with her entire family, but she was a true Daddy’s girl. Mom and Dad mentored her through her car and home purchases, and Drew Kesse managed the punch list of her newly constructed abode. He made her ask the condo workers in her condo to put the white paint for the crown molding in a Tupperware for him and he would paint it himself- it was taking so long. Or, Dad and Mom welcomed the excuse to come and see her.
Jenn was most uncomfortable with the amount of landscapers and workers around the complex on a daily basis and shared those concerns openly.
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What Jennifer was not open about and known only to her family and close friends, was that she was a four year Spanish major and she was beyond fluent.
She knew what sorts of misogynistic jeers were being shared between a sneering worker or two.
Jenn shared a great deal of personal and romantic information with her parents by all accounts and were in frequent daily contact. When Jenn told Drew she expressed her feelings of love to Rob Allen, and he did not “say it back”, she felt hurt. The trip with him was a definite test.
She felt the weight of the every- other-weekend commute for someone she had been dating almost a year was going to have to move forward or Jenn was considering moving on.
Jenn had also been approached by a vendor turned personal friend who was working with her to launch the companies new debit system- to consider going out on a romantic date with him.
Scott Stryker would have to cool his jets for now. Jennifer told him while they had a business relationship and she was currently in one , there was no chance of anything more.
In another Dad-Daughter chat, Jenn told Drew that she was having an issue with a co-worker who was overly fawning and complimentary, asking her out constantly. Jenn asked her dad his thoughts about the concept of just going out to lunch with a person to tell them that you were not interested in them. Was that was a kinder option than just saying no, where she stood to risk an interpersonal situation she did not want? Jenn did not disclose that her office admirer was married with children. Drew believes that fact may have raised some necessary red flags for him back then.
Drew advised Jennifer not to go on any outing that might be perceived as a date, but to agree to lunch and have the conversation in a lighter setting, and that was the best she could do. In a follow up discussion between the two, Jenn told Drew she had done just that and it went fine.
Commensurate Panic
“She had a fight with her boyfriend, she took off, happens all the time, she will be back in a couple hours.- OPD detective”
The Kesse’s knew better. Rob Allen and Jenn’s best friend Lauren were at her condo by the afternoon and the people that knew her better than anyone were terrified; Jennifer was in trouble and panic set in.
While it was unknown until discovered 2 days later, a closed circuit camera catches an unknown suspect parking her 2004 black Chevy Malibu in the visitor spot at the Huntingdon On The Green apartments, approximately 1.2 miles away from her condo, at noon.
At approximately 7PM a missing person report was filed for Jennifer Joyce Kesse and a BOLO was dispatched by Orlando Police Department for her car.
On January 24, 2012 Jennifer Kesse will be missing for 6 years. In that time she has had a dozen detectives working on her case, it has been transferred to the Federal Bureau of Investigation at the Kesse’s request, and her case is being reviewed by the 8th review team tomorrow morning followed by a press conference arranged by Orlando Police Department and FDLE.
There have been numerous searches, both organized by the Kesse’s efforts as well as law enforcement which have not yielded a shred of evidence associated with Jennifer Kesse. Last week was the largest search effort to date.
This is largely due to the fact that the 2 detectives originally assigned to the case who retired on the same day 9 months in, never kept a single note. Not even a water-stained cocktail napkin with a smeared phone number. Nada.
Prevailing Theories For The Weary
Because Jennifer appeared to have slept in her bed and got ready for work, the prevailing theory has always been that she “at least got out the door” the morning of Tuesday January 24 and was abducted prior to getting to her car.
Water droplets in the tub at 1:30 PM notwithstanding, I have never understood why investigators seemed to be so married to this theory. In fact, in the few years I have known Drew Kesse through our respective advocacy work and mutual associations, it was not until a few months ago we ever discussed Jennifer’s case for that very reason.
I told Drew I would absolutely be willing to have my team’s resources look into Jenn’s case, but to be honest, I really didn’t believe I could offer any insights as I did not subscribe to the prevailing theory in the case. I have worked on cases before where that has been the situation and found it futile in progressing leads, which is of course is the goal.
The last thing I want to do is upset the apple cart, and in my mind, this is a personal crime, not a random construction person or landscaper. The odds of Jennifer being abducted by a stranger in broad daylight at that hour, in full view of a handful of people in visual proximity, carrying her keys and a briefcase at her size, and with her physical strength does not jibe for me. It also does not even begin to touch the statistics that agree with my position.
I told Drew, “I really think it is likely someone Jennifer knew. It might be someone she did not know well, or their intentions certainly, but everything I have ever reviewed on the case has not excluded that possibility for me. Statistically speaking alone, if this is a homicide case, and preliminarily I do believe that is the most likely scenario- there is a greater than 90% chance she knew her killer.
Jenn is a low risk victim for a random and stranger perpetrated abduction, period.
His response to me was crisp. “Christina, I do not care about theories or whose they are, I just do not want to go in the ground without knowing what happened to my daughter- if you have a different thought or approach, there is nobody closed off to any possibility. We just want her found, it will be six years of Hell, and she deserves to come home.”
For the last 3 months the investigative team at www.blinkoncrime.com has analyzed thousands of documents, conducted numerous interviews of sources both willing and unwilling to discuss her case publicly in conjunction with on-location review.
Separating the wheat from the chaff would not come easy. But wheat we found.
Exclusively on www.blinkoncrime.com, all new facts in Jennifer’s disappearance are marked with an asterisk.
Random Abduction In Open Stairwell
Despite the fact that there were literally over 100 different workers on site, all of which would have been there by 7am when the bulk of the workday started for landscapers and contractors, neither saw nor heard anything unusual that morning. In fact, not one person interviewed remembers seeing Jennifer’s car* that morning upon arrival.
The door to Jennifer’s condo was locked with no sign of forced entry or any sort of scuffle in her home. Dishes in the dishwasher were clean*, and likely ran by Logan when he left, no dishes in the sink. (Editors Note: If you have not already, run your shower for 15 minutes at the showerhead trajectory of a 5’8” tall person and keep track of the time you can say with certainty you do not find water droplets. It should be noted of course that the assumption continues to be made that it was Jenn that actually showered.)
To my knowledge the only conclusive fact about when Jennifer Kesse was last in her apartment is that she spoke to Rob Allen on her landline to his cell phone at 9:57PM.
Well, that, and her phone was NOT in it* at 10:40PM when it’s power source was removed after pinging in a location intentionally being withheld by www.blinkoncrime.com.
Jenn’s condo was equipped with a working intrusion alarm*. She had disarmed it because Logan was visiting for the weekend. It was not* armed when the family arrived the afternoon she was discovered missing.
According to a source inside the management company servicing Mosaic at the time, they have never been asked to produce any sort of reporting* as to its settings by Orlando Police (OPD).
In a conversation with the condo’s current owner, those records would no longer be available as of the date of this writing.
The ancillary objects pointing to Jennifer sleeping in her condo that night could just as easily reflect that she took a nap, showered and went out, or was roused from her bed by an unexpected visitor known to her.
Jennifer’s glasses* were located in the bathroom, not next to her bed.
Missing from her closet are her favorite taupe snake print pumps*
Found in Jennifer’s hamper was a man’s sweater* that does not belong to any known male associates of hers and is believed to fit no larger than a medium build individual.
Previously thought to be missing but discovered after being returned to the Kesse’s by OPD years later, was her brown pocketbook* she used on her trip. It had been packed in the duffel bag located on the floor in the foyer.
There were 2 workers that had access to work orders inside Jenn’s condo*. Both men were interviewed, agreed to take polygraph tests administered by the FBI and were subsequently cleared.* The identities of those individuals did not produce any criminal records.
To date, Jennifer’s keys, wallet, iPod, LG phone and briefcase are missing. Travis Bourgignion’s phone has never been recovered and pings from his phone confirm it ran out of power over the weekend.*
2004 Chevrolet Malibu
#2226 parking spaces was located to the rear of the building which allowed those familiar with the complex to access the back entrance, which was not enclosed due to the construction.
Jennifer used the front entrance* that evening when returning from work to pick up her mail on the way in.
There was no sign of any foul play in either the exterior or interior of Jenn’s car.
Found on the floor of the front passenger side of her car were the flip flops she wore home from work that afternoon as well as a pair she wore in St. Croix.* Also found* were aspirin, her broken mail key, a business card, her sunglasses and cell charger (not plugged in and wrapped around the gear shift).
A DVD player for her bedroom given to her by Rob Allen and strapped in with the seatbelt was located in the backseat.
The Malibu was found locked in the lot of The Huntingdon On The Green apartments on January 26th.
It was removed at the request of OPD by a flatbed tow truck prior to CST processing, and prior to any assessment as to whether or not it was in working condition or impaired in some way, causing Jenn to need assistance.
As it was equipped with coded keys*, the suspect who parked it had to have Jennifer’s original key. Attempting to use a spare would have been rendered it inoperable.
Drew Kesse was never asked to provide a second coded key in his possession at the home in Bradenton so it is unclear how OPD was able to gain access and perform any necessary diagnostics.
Fatal Familiarity?
Distrust all those who love you extremely upon a very slight acquaintance and without any visible reason. – Lord Chesterfield
It is ironic that the initial LE theory was that Jenn was essentially pitching a fit over a boyfriend, but spent the bulk of early efforts running down the potential illegal alien and day-labor dujour angles.
The usual suspects were easy to clear- Rob’s cell was at his home and then work, where he was, but he agreed to and passed a polygraph test. Matthew Sullivan, the former boyfriend who was so devastated at the news of Jennifer’s disappearance he drank himself senseless for two weeks and was described as “inconsolable”-cleared. Vendors- cleared. Any and all known male associates-cleared.
Astonishingly, it was not until almost 3 and half years after Jennifer Kesse disappeared that the first of Jenn’s co-workers were interviewed. You read that sentence correctly.
Connections to completely unassociated cases (Grinstead) and abduction by a Dubai sheik theories were apparently the priority. Apparently the Liam Neeson blockbuster “Taken” was at least partially inspired on the publicly known aspects of Jenn’s case as the Kesse’s received a call from one of the movie’s producers.
Occam and the good men and women of OPD assigned to this case are strangers, I fear.
In their defense, and I guess also by default, playing the hand they were dealt by the early detectives who apparently had developed their own secret decoder implements without sharing, was the wrong kind of flush.
As I began my interviews among colleagues of Jenn’s that would speak to me on the condition of anonymity only, I was repeatedly asked if I spoke to an individual by the name of Johnny Campos*.
In a subsequent follow up interview with Drew Kesse, I asked him if he was familiar with that name.
“Yes, that is the guy I told you about that Jenn said was asking her out constantly and I told her to have lunch with and let him down easy that way instead of a date.”
“I remember because I asked her to repeat his name. I thought it odd for an adult businessman to go by the name “Johnny” at the office. I can’t remember what year, I think it was about 2 years ago, Joyce and I were at one of our sponsored events at the Mall and he introduced himself.”
I said, He introduced himself to you?
“Not to me, I was talking, but I saw him. He walked up to Joyce and said that he had worked with Jenn and that before she went missing the office had a secret Santa exchange where he got her name.”
“He bought her this ornament type thing, really beautiful, in a red velvet box thingie or stand that sat on her desk.”
I said, Didn’t OPD secure the things from her cube?
He answered, “I have no idea, he just said she kept it on her desk and he thought we should have it.”
Further interviews and investigation led me to Campos’s subordinate, who knew both Johnny Campos and Jenn Kesse.
In fact, he was stationed in the cubicle next to Jenn and what I learned next will undoubtedly be the WTF moment in this case.
Because of the open investigation and his status as a possible material witness, I will refer to him as Adam Frank, which is not his real name. Frank’s statements to me have been independently verified through multiple sources or you would not be reading them here.
Adam had been working for Central Florida Investments for eight years before being fired for asking his bosses to investigate the alleged harassment perpetrated against him by his supervisor, Johnny Campos, since the day Jennifer Kesse disappeared. He believed it was because he knew specifics about them, and for what he told Orlando Police and subsequently the FBI, which was corroborated by the polygraph he requested to take.
After his superiors had met with OPD weeks earlier, In May 2009 Adam Frank received a subpoena served to him at the office in full view of his peers, to meet with FDLE the following week.
He told them the following (notes from our interview):
He was friends with Johnny. One time when he said to Jennifer in an email about work, but wrote at the last line she looked nice today, Johnny asked him why he would say that to her, was he interested in her? Adam told him that he was just being nice and asked him how he knew about it in the first place. Campos ignored the question. On another occasion, he had walked past Campos and Jenn in the hallway and they were laughing. He thought it was about him because of the email so he asked them, both replied absolutely no, and shared whatever they were laughing about; alleviating Frank’s angst.
It was short-lived, on Friday January 20th, upon learning of Jenn’s impromptu trip with her boyfriend, Campos was bending Adam’s ear like a wanna be jealous boyfriend. Campos told him that Jenn was a jerk for dating that Brit a-hole and other fill in the blank derogatory insults. Adam was uncomfortable and reminded Campos that Campos was a married man and he did not want anything to do with the conversation or get in the middle of whatever was going on; he needed his job.
Johnny Alberto Campos Facebook Pic
On Monday morning January 23rd, around 8am, Adam overhears Campos confront Jenn upon her return while in his cubicle, unbeknownst to them.
While I have the full statement of what was said between the two, in the interest of preserving case sensitive information I will provide a summary.
Campos confronted her about where she was and who she was with. Jenn responded she had a fantastic time, loved it and hated to leave; Campos was audibly and visibly perturbed. At no time did either become aware that Adam overheard the exchange.
At least not until he met with OPD for the second time in 2009 where they informed Adam that Campos had been interviewed based on his information. At this time, everything made sense to Adam as to what was going on since the day Jennifer disappeared.
When Campos showed up for work around noon * on Tuesday January 24th appearing overtly nervous and pacing around, Frank thought he was acting strangely, but it did not escalate to “scary” until a few hours later where it was learned through the grapevine that Jenn Kesse might have been abducted. Campos is a supervisor and therefore not required to keep a timecard.
The next day, Wednesday January 25th, if you can believe it, proved to be even stranger.
Johnny Campos asks Adam to drive the pair to the new Westgate office at Lake Eleanor. Adam thought it bizarre since it was not either man’s responsibility to do such, but agreed.
It is not clear if Campos was without his 2000 blue Ford Taurus that day. On the way, Campos asked Adam how far his brother lived from there, the one with the vacant apartment next to his and if they could stop there and ask him if he heard anything.
During the drive Campos told Adam wherever she (Jenn) was, “she was likely eaten up by alligators already.”
Adam asked him not to say such things- Campos repeated it.
Adam and Campos stopped in at the lake Eleanor office , said hello to a few colleagues and headed back.
Over the next four years, until Adam Frank had the second meeting at HIS request with the FBI in an attempt to further allegations he felt were not being taken seriously by OPD, he claims Campos harassed him on the job relentlessly. Things were about to get worse. The FBI advised him if he was having problems at work over the issue, he should go to his superiors.
On January 19 2011, he did. In three subsequent internal meetings with varying levels of seniority Adam repeated his story about his treatment by his immediate supervisor and concerns for his physical safety if Campos was involved in what happened to Jennifer Kesse. He finally requested a meeting with John Willman and told him the events he was going through were making him physically ill and asked for his help to review and or expedite his complaint.
Three days later, Adam received a call from Willman where he told him his issues with Campos and the Kesse case were not good for the company and he would be terminated effective immediately. At no time was Frank ever told the status or outcome of his complaint against Campos. Johnny Campos is the only contemporary of Jennifer’s to maintain his position to date. Attempts to reach Mr. Campos and Mr. Willman for comment were not returned.
Ironically, Adam Frank files a grievance against Johnny Campos 5 years to the day Campos returned to CFI after a short stint in Lake County jail for ripping up a citation the morning of January 16th.
Campos was remanded to Lake County jail on bond, and after his wife posted the required $500 and a brief appearance on the 18th returned to work on the first day Jennifer Kesse was off; likely learning about her departure then.
The only known suspect in the disappearance is the individual that was recorded parking her vehicle.
The Kesse’s have been invited to a review of Jennifer’s case tomorrow morning at 9am, followed by the invitation to local media to ask questions on the status of the case from OPD and the Kesse’s.
Drew Kesse and Christina Stoy, BOC Editor In Chief will be discussing the case on THE DANA PRETZER SHOW Wednesday January 18th at 9PM.
Check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for breaking developments to this story.
Jason Mateos and Jacqueline Beufort, contributing editors
Images by Klaasend
Kesse Photos courtesy of the Kesse Family
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Stunning work, Blink.
Had to pick up my jaw from the floor several times, including:
“Astonishingly, it was not until almost 3 and half years after Jennifer Kesse disappeared that the first of Jenn’s co-workers were interviewed.”
A definite hmmmmm on this newly found fact:
“Missing from her closet are her favorite taupe snake print pumps*”
^^^ Blink, was Jennifer wearing these shoes at work on January 23 ?
Any information on any of her clothing from that work day . . . retrieved, tested, witness accounts?
Another snippet:
“I can’t remember what year, I think it was about 2 years ago, Joyce and I were at one of our sponsored events at the Mall and he introduced himself.”
I said, He introduced himself to you?
“Not to me, I was talking, but I saw him. He walked up to Joyce and said that he had worked with Jenn and that before she went missing the office had a secret Santa exchange where he got her name.
He bought her this ornament type thing, really beautiful, in a red velvet box thingie or stand that sat on her desk.”
I said, Didn’t OPD secure the things from her cube?
He answered, “I have no idea, he just said she kept it on her desk and he thought we should have it.”
^^^ Oh . . . my.
Hoping so much, Blink, that your part in SMART helps bring this lovely young woman back to her family.
Looking forward to tonight’s show.
xoxo’s
To my knowledge, we have found ( and when I say we on this question I include LE) nobody that could provide a usable description of her outfit Monday.
Reason being- say for example the answer was ” taupe trousers and a Navy blouse”… Jennifer had about 5 outfits that matched that description and there was never any “process of elimination” from her wardrobe and laundry.
Excellent Question wpg.
B
@ Dr.Pepper
Similar thoughts . . . I did not see your post until I posted my comments and the page refreshed.
I have never trusted that Gecko’s accent…I think he is from Florida, in fact I think I met him once. I am checking his facebook as I type…(really I am on the floor laughing but will check him out later). Thanks for a Hardy Har Har Blink.
One day I will tell a story about an iguana that I met under my C H A I Z E when I turned over on vacation. There was an untied bathing top and an angry husband involved by the end of the ordeal.
The absolutely true punch line: It was endangered.
Thank you for the respit, it has been a very long 48 hours.
B
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Why did a 24 year old woman, with a boyfriend of one year, who lives in Ft. Lauderdale, who she said she loved and was contemplating marrying, BUY a condo in Orlando? You referred to a “familiar back and forth”. Was this a contentious relationship?
I’m assuming Rob is 100% in the clear.
Showering for 8AM work start time and 1:30PM – water still in shower, is a real stretch IMO.
That BOLO on her car sure didn’t do any good did it?
Assuming her “landline” was a cordless phone. Those things ping? How would one know the battery was removed at 10:40? Why on earth would you need to withhold the location? That is the heart of this right?
I am of the opinion she went out that night, maybe came home put on comfy “pjs” then later showered & went out. She had to eat right? No dirty dishes anywhere?
respectfully, I think the piece speaks for itself in terms of why she purchased a condo, etc.
The BOLO found her vehicle, it was a hit.
landlines do not ping.
I withheld the location because it is case sensitive- that information is absolutely is the heart of this, and that is my call- I stand by it.
No dirty dishes as stated. She did not go out and come back in, no way, the guard station was monitored and he was questioned.
B
She went to work straight from her boyfriends home…he doesn’t remember what she was wearing the last time he saw her?
B- you said you do know who is in posession of the car. I was referring to Jennifer’s car, were you? Wouldnt it be common knowledge if the kesse’s decided to sell the car? She was just 2 years out college, I would imagine her parents name was on the title along with Jennifer’s. Were they still making payments on it when she vanished and had to sell it? Or was she leasing it?
If they did sell it, then the dealership (if they returned it) would have records of diagnostics, right? And if they sold it via classified or something, wouldn’t the new owner be able to tell if any repairs were needed after they bought it?
I assume it was at a minimum dusted for prints…..can you answer that?
J
Has it been sesrched/analyzed at all, ever?
About the shoes, I was picturing tall snake skin boots because i had a pair way back when. I was referring to her pumps that are missing. Wondering if she may have worn them to work & just not changed shoes. Possible. I do it all of the time.
Jenn’s car.
Processed yes.
Dealer would have only legal info they are required to disclose, not any forensic data.
B
Sdb: She did not go to work from her boyfriends home. She went home after the trip and spoke to the boyfriend via telephone as they did every night, at 9:57 pm
amg: that is incorrect. Jennifer went directly to work on Monday morning the 23rd from Rob’s home in Ft. Lauderdale. The first time she was home was at approximately 6:40PM.
B
So Campos has never been polygraphed? Wonder if his wife has been questioned. Sounds to me like Campos was pointing a finger at Frank – maybe telling stories about him to management and the police. Why else would the police think they need to subpoena Frank at work to get him to talk.
If the guard station was monitored why don’t we know for sure when the car left for the last time?
p.s. thanks Blink, good work. So glad to see something happening for these people, so devoted to their daughter. Heartbreaking.
Okay. I was referring to whoever has the car now would be able to tell us if they noticed any problems (if possibly her call was tampered with & she got stranded)
Obviously whatever “evidence” they obtained from the initial search didn’t lead them to anyone. It’s a shame they didn’t keep any notes!!
If we don’t even. Know how they got into the car. Quite possible they didn’t do every kind of testing for evidence in it.
Oh this infuriates me!
I am so mad at the original detectives. No notes? None? Really? Wtf?
It applies. This case was effed. Can’t uneff it. Just have to forge ahead.
B
If they couldn’t get it together with all of the media coverage Jennifer got, who knows what other cases they screwed.
Hopefully your saying “you can’t un-f a case” is not relevant here.
Thanks again blink.
Blink, you said the following:
“It is my personal opinion that is not likely Campos, but I have never been of the opinion the man that parked her car knew anything about her fate, he was simply following a request.”
That individual would have quickly learned he moved the car of a missing woman and come forward had he not been involved, right? Is Campos of the same small stature as the man on the CCTV? Or does he have a relative/close acquaintance matching that description?
Hell to the no. Does he even speak english? Is he illegal? Did he just get named a suspect in a likely homicide unknowingly and he is going to head to OPD?
B
I wonder where she had dinner that night? She would have been hungry after working all day.
Anything to suggest Johnny Campos’ phone pinged anywhere along the route to Lake Eleanor on Monday night or Tuesday morning?
Could he have been looking for an excuse to travel to the lake because he wanted to see if a search was being conducted along that route or near that lake on Tuesday afternoon?
Excellent question Doug- we don’t know. The only thing I can say as a certainty is that she did not use her debit card on the way home for fast food or pick up take out. She had been gone since Wednesday evening or Thursday and had 4 21 year old men staying over the weekend so if she had anything in her fridge…
It is possible she had a microwave meal of some kind and washed any dishes by hand or did not use any I suppose ? Perhaps, but it did not appear that way.
As far as Campos’s request to travel to the Lake Eleanor office and stop at “Adam’s” brothers home, whom Campos had never met, and was not part of eithers tasks at CFI/Westgate, I am making the assumption there was nefarious intent of some kind.
I asked Adam about that extensively, it was clear to me he did not understand the motivation then or to this day. I am obviously suspect. To the best of his recollection, Campos did not bring anything with him like a briefcase or duffel, and there are a few details I had to leave out that Adam was not 100% sure of, although LE is aware of it.
I do know that there was an extensive ground search conducted based on this information and it was not clear to the Kesse’s why until we developed this information.
Wrt Campos cell, I have my concerns that data was even made available to LE based on when he came on the radar. I am aware of the retention practices of his carrier and let’s just say people can be resourceful if they had a concern they might come on the radar at some point.
I continue to believe this is a solvable case regardless of the time that has passed and if it was not clear that everyone’s batteries have been re-charged in that regard, it better be.
B
if she left to go to work ,would she not need her glasses?was she lured to the lake office,what time was her meeting scheduled for ,what the nature of the meeting,was j.c. supposed to be present for the meeting,he came in at noon -doesnt punch a clock-is that regular arrival time? was jc’s ride, to the lake office with adam to check that her car was picked up and moved,&look for le activity at lake?
Hello Blink!
Blink said:
«Jennifer used the front entrance that evening when returning from work to pick up her mail
on the way in.»
Blink also said:
«Found in the floor of the passenger side of her car….her mail key…..»
Blink can we surely say that Jennifer must have left her condo
or at night or in the morning willing to go to work ? And that she was not abducted from
inside? Because her mail keys would have stayed in her home if she had
been abducted there?
Once again, Blink, you have done an outstanding job – covering all the bases! So glad to see that this is being covered again. I’m wondering if Jenn’s Dad (assuming the co-worker Jenn told her Dad about – fawning over her – see below quote – was Campos), knew the co-worker was married? If so, do you think Mr.Kesse would have advised her to go out to lunch with him? See quote below:
” In another Dad-Daughter chat, Jenn told Drew that she was having an issue with a co-worker who was overly fawning and complimentary, asking her out constantly. Jenn asked her dad his thoughts about the concept of just going out with a person to tell them that you were not interested in them, and if that was a kinder way than just saying no, where she stood to risk an interpersonal situation she did not want.
Drew advised Jennifer not to go on a date, but to agree to lunch and have the conversation in lighter setting, and that was the best she could do. In a follow up discussion between the two, Jenn told Drew she had done just that and it went fine.”
Was this co-worker Campos? And married at the time?
The first time Drew told me about the co-worker conversation, he never said his name.
After developing the information through interviews and investigative efforts, I learned about it, and him, independently so I called Drew and simply asked him if the Name Johnny Campos ever came on his radar. You read his answer without hesitation. He knew exactly who he was, so the rest of the information he received prior to publication was “jarring” to say the least.
I do not know what Jennifer was told about Mr. Campos’s marital status, but I know she did not mention to Drew that he was married or I can assure you Drew would have likely had a conversation with Mr. Campos himself so it would not surprise me to learn that Jenn kept that out of the dialogue for that very reason. At that age and similar circumstance, I know I would have, Drew and my Father are similarly protective of their girls.
One of the hardest conversations to date I have had with Drew, for sure.
I wonder if everyone can really absorb the evolution these people are going through as parents.
B
Blink i have a co-worker myself who is mad at me because i don ‘t show any interes for him. He did go
so far as make « hidden treats »as other co-worker and i sat to lunch at the same table. He said: i don ‘t ever forget a thing even in 20 years and i can get really unpleased, unconfortable. It is not unsual for me to receive phone calls without a number and no one answers when i pick up. I never know who it could be.
so as i read the case of Jennifer it scares me a bit.
This is the most thought provoking material regarding this case I have read in almost six years.
A very big ‘well done.’
This is looking like the classic ‘if I can’t have her, nobody can’ scenario.
Two questions:
Why has the driver of the car never come forward or been identified?
How will a case be built against a likely perpetrator?
Good morning Blink. I’m mapping out past searches as you suggested, for myself bc I’m certain you already have this info
but I’m also going through old news articles & anything else I can find that includes names of searchers. Please let me know if you already have that info. I’ll post all when I’m done but you’re so far ahead of the game I wouldn’t be surprised if you already have that info as well! Just wanted to give ya a heads up. Uncanny that Campos pops up on initial searches. I’m wondering if anyone else does as well that could fit the description of the “car parker”.
I find it deplorable the initial investigators, although retired, don’t have notes to back up their investigation. I don’t want to make excuses fir the OPD but in their defense they deal with tons of crimes on a daily basis. Even though Jennifer’s condo was “nice”, it’s a high crime area, just like any other metro. Which reminds me: security, was there a security guard that patrolled the complexes in question? Or are they just gated communities with video surveillance but without a patrolling guard?
Lastly, I wonder where “Adam Frank’s” brother had his empty apartment. IOW, is there security there as well and if so did the OPD pull tapes? If not I’d think they could have a lawsuit on their hands for a pizz poor shiddy investigation. They questioned the brother, right, so id think they’d follow through on ontaining footage. If they didn’t then dang they screwed up even more. Their mistakes are just compiling & compiling. I’m not bashing them but jeesh they are paid to protect and investigate if a crime occurred. Nothing justifies them for not following through to the hilt. Kudos to them for admitting they may need to go in another direction. Only thing I have to say is that if Campos or somebody connected to him ends up as the perp, then the OPD needs to damn sure be held accountable.
Guardhouse only at Jennifer’s, cctv added 2 weeks after her disappearance.
Fwiw, I think OPD & FDLE are trying to be accountable.
B
Forgot to mention: Boz, thank you. I was asking about FL’s laws on employer’s rights bc in some states there’s certain protocol to be followed in order to protect them from an ex employee filing grievance. A good friend of mine sued a well known international bank in DE bc she was erroneously terminated, blamed for something her superior did which made her the scapegoat. DE law offers businesses free reign to fire at will, however since this banking institution had a termination policy in place which they didn’t follow, she won in court. Then she was also able to prove they tried to discredit her testimony & strong-arm her- so she got them on that. She got about 100G, I kid you not. She’s since started her own business & her old superior was just in the news – yes the news – for unlawful practices, employee harassment and money laundering. It went all the way to NY. The reason I explained all of this is bc maybe sometimes a company has more to hide when they get rid of the “little man” without proper investigation. If CFI has policy on termination in place that they didn’t follow, then “Adam Frank” will win a grievance. I’d like to know if maybe CFI had other complaints against Johnny Campos that they hid bc considering that Blink uncovered they were being investigated federally then they might not have wanted to chance bad publicity or their company could have gone under. Just a thought…
Blink says, I am not disclosing addy’s, but I will say that a keen researcher matching dates and searches over the last 3 years in particular….
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Your interview last night referred to the February 19th, 2010 search. I would like to know if Adam Franks’ condo was at the Weatherly Condos? I know you are not releasing this information. The search area seemed to me to be in this area.
was not.
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Blink, I’ve been a reader for a couple of years now, and have always appreciated your commitment to justice and shining light into dark corners. This particular investigation has given me even more respect for your determination, connection to resources and your dedication to the victim’s families.
As a person who has no connection to LE, or any sort of investigative folks, I don’t have a good sense of just how much work is done behind the scenes to get facts checked, and stories up. The way this story is presented reveals much more about just how far, wide and deep your investigations go. Thank you for all that you do – for your integrity as an investigator, and your work in service to others. I have to think that the positive energy of all your readers hoping for closure on these cases goes a long way in itself. Keep up the good work!
I sincerely appreciate this feedack.
B
Blink re your response to wpg:
Quote:
To my knowledge, we have found ( and when I say we on this question I include LE) nobody that could provide a usable description of her outfit Monday.
Reason being- say for example the answer was ” taupe trousers and a Navy blouse”… Jennifer had about 5 outfits that matched that description and there was never any “process of elimination” from her wardrobe and laundry.
Excellent Question wpg.
B
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This made me think of something that is a habit of mine, hear me out for a sec. Jennifer appears to be a creature of habit, very responsible, spends her money sensibly, cherished her condo which she bought on her own, etc. The fact that her clothes all matched tells me she was raised “right” in regards to purchasing professional attire that is classic in nature & isn’t to be outdated in a short period of time. IOW, she didn’t go after the fads with the bulk of her clothing allowance. She lays her outfits out for work. She keeps her condo in order. I’ll bet her car was clean, meaning old food wrappers & such weren’t left to rot in there. Ok, having said this, she could happen to be the type to use the towel she dries off with to wipe down excess water after she showers. I know it seems anal but I do this myself bc durin our ongoing renovation of our house, we experienced mold, so I dry the shower and both sinks (kitchen & bath) after use. It keeps everything shiny clean anyway & prevents lime buildup from hard water. Maybe she really didn’t take a shower afterall. Maybe the perp is the one to turn it on for a few minutes to make it seem like she did. If you take that into consideration, were there steam streaks on the mirror in the bathroom? Steam weighs down hair & dust. The OPD makes me mad bc a swiping of the bathroom floor & wall would have proved if there were foreign hairs in there. It’s easy to omit Jennifer, her family & her brother’s friends. I ask about steam streaks bc Jennifer would have wiped down her mirror after showering, dontcha think?
There are 2 doors to the bathroom, if she were by herself she might have left them open, and I do not know why she would put the towel across the dryer as opposed to hanging it up.
Jenn was neat except in the bathroom according to her parents.
B
I think it’s strange Jennifer’s place of employment didn’t immediately contact LE to volunteer any kind of help, answer any questions, print posters, reach out to her family. Gosh, Jennifer was beautiful and from what I’ve seen of her parents, I also would imagine she was a nice young lady. Where are all of her coworkers? I wonder how many others have had past problems. Geezie, I’m glad you’ve brought all of this information to light. It does make me even angrier that it took you to advance this investigation AND that LE has sat on their arses. Now I wonder about that Michelle Parker investigation and I suppose, countless others. Thank you for all you do, Blink. P.S. Yes, I do know there are many, many wonderful people in LE that do and can make a difference.
I know times have changed, but when I didn’t show up for work or answer my phone one morning when I was in my early 20s, my supervisor sent a co-worker out in a company car to look for me within 30 minutes of my start time. I lived 20 miles away, so this wasn’t a small job!
My car had broken down along a major highway, and he found me quickly by driving the most logical route.
I looked at the still of the individual who left Jennifer’s car parked at Huntingdon. I have read so little about this case until yesterday. One place I did read speculated that the individual had a bike helmet on and that his pant leg may have been restricted with something like a bike clip. I have to agree it does look like a bike helmet. The pant leg is short and looks to be narrow at the ankle. I wonder did JC ever ride a bike to work? Could that be why he needed a ride to the new Lake E. office? The time stamp says 1300.. does that mean that the car was dropped off at 1PM? If this person is in a bike outfit it would seem they were planning to get on a bike. Where is the bike. Just running this through my head. You said it does not look to be JC’s gait so I assume there must be more than a still available. Is he in a bike helmet?
Jennifer leaving her glasses behind in the shower bothers me. Perhaps she was surprised in the shower that night by someone she knew. Maybe he was undressed as well…… hence the sweather left behind. She may have “played along” fearing for her safety but once she realized that something bad was going down- it was too late. Since her fav shoes are missing maybe he told her to dress up and she just complied thinking he may be taking her out to dinner. I could see him luring her out to dinner on her first night back only to go into a jealous rage and end her life.
In bathroom, not in shower.
B
That is what I meant……… She wouldn’t have left them ANYWHERE if she couldn’t see well without them. Even if she was in a hurry, putting her glasses on was just an automatic. She wasn’t given the chance to put them on.
Jenn wore contacts 90% of the time, glasses at night only unless she was out.
She left them on her nightstand when she went to sleep, and needed them in the morning to hit the kitchen or loo. They would be found in the bathroom if she put her contacts on to go out that night (not found) or for work in the am. She had them with her from her trip, the top of her duffel was unzipped, I assume that she removed her glasses when she got home.
B
Blink do you know if Campos was asked to submit to a polygraph and refused or was never asked? Also, has anyone else backed up Adam’s report that Campos arrived late to work on the day of the disappearance?
I do not have any details about Campos conversation with LE that I can discuss except to say I do not believe he took a poly.
Yes, there were other co-workers to back that up as well as it being a question on Adam’s poly determined to be answered truthfully.
B
One more question. Any way that Jenn Kesse left an extra set of keys in her desk at work?
To my knowledge, no, but I agree it has to be a consideration for exclusion.
B
do you think that Jennifer Kesse, Tracy Ocasio and the LATEST Michelle Parker are connected in any way at all? there are alot of similarities..
I think Tracy’s case is connected to Chris George’s through the Hutto’s and Hataway without question.
I think Jennifer and Michelle are unrelated, however, it is not uncommon for someone to want a crime to look like a prior case to cast attention elsewhere, especially if it is a personal domestic connection, which I believe this is.
B
i assume, perhaps incorrectly, that the sweater did not belong to any of the brother’s friends that stayed there while she was away. seems like that would be policework 101, however so does taking notes.
i agree its odd for sure. most sweaters get dry cleaned no? i would think Jenn would be mindful of that so, i don’t think i could rule out a plant. especially if we have reason to believe the condo scene was manipulated in other ways.
It was on the bottom of her hamper under her clothes. Was not Logan’s or his friends.
B
I think Jennifer and Michelle are unrelated, however, it is not uncommon for someone to want a crime to look like a prior case to cast attention elsewhere, especially if it is a personal domestic connection, which I believe this is.
B
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I absolutely have thought about this as being the case of similarities however I can not help but think about Morgan Harrington and how it has been said over and over if that monster did it once he will do it again. Question does that apply more with crimes of opportunity as to domestic/ romantic crimes?
concerning the sweater, do they have that as evidence?
yes
B
If it was not a set of keys for her home at work in the desk drawer, then her key could have been taken “from her purse?” then copied and returned to where it was taken from.Giving a person the ability to enter her home without her knowledge.
sorry, no can do.
B
So am I correct that the real time of possible abduction or in question is between 10 – 10:40 p.m. after she worked a full day, made one land line phone call and then 40 minutes later her cell phone pings in an undisclosed location for the last time? Doesn’t sound like anyone came to her apartment to me, b/c why would she leave? Even if she knew the person, women have intuition and I would think she wouldn’t leave on her own will. There is no sign of a struggle in the condo. I don’t think she went to bed if her glasses were in the bathroom – looks like maybe she wears contacts? Is it possible she got dressed up to meet Campos? That he attacked her, killed her and then used her car to dispose of the body? Were cadaver dogs ever used on her car? Sounds also like Campos was scoping out wherever he disposed of her when he had “Adam” drive him from the office to Lake Eleanor? Where are all of these place – vacant apartment included – in relation to each other? Which locations have been searched? Who is Willmann and why would have be so attached to Campos that Campos is the only remaining employee? Maybe I missed this – but did you saw the sweater in question doesn’t have a known owner? Like LE did look into a possible source for the sweater? How long had she known/worked for Campos and is it possible they had any past relationship at all or was it one sided?
According to people search Johnny A Campos may be related to Leonardo Campos. And 40 year old Leonardo Campos is/maybe related to Johnny A Campos.
http://www.peoplesmart.com/psp.aspx?_act=resultsgo
Leonardo Campos
The following Official Record of Leonardo Campos is being redistributed by Mugshots.com under the Freedom of Information Act. This Official Record was collected from a Law Enforcement agency on 12/06/2011.
Booking Number: GCSO11JBN003128
Mugshots.com ID: 4961115
Charges: N/A
Do you think that this 40 year old Leonardo Campos is the same that may be related to Johnny Campos.
ttp://www.gladessheriff.org/INMATE_Detail.php?INMATE_ID=114&pageNum_WADAINMATE=6
Sorry for so many post but I wonder if Leo rides a bike?
No cctv at Central Florida Investments? They have a gated property, so I would assume there is some sort of security or surveillance of the building and parking area, that could help determine who is coming or going, and who they are with.
Where are her cell records? IF she was getting harassing calls from Campos, wouldn’t that give LE probable cause to have searched his cell records, vehicle and apartment back then?
It’d be interesting to know if Jennifer and Campos’ phones ping anywhere along the Lake Eleanor route that night.
She was confronted by Campos at 8:00AM, and it wasn’t significant enough to text or email anyone that day about it? Seems most girls would say something to Mom or a close friend.
Was her Malibu equipped with an active OnStar system? Any help there for tracking purposes?
all good questions-
LE has her cell and landline records.
No onstar.
I don’t think Jennifer considered the confrontation significant, and she did not mention it to anyone that I know of.
B
I was curious as to whether this story has ever run and been updated in any of the local hispanic papers and television stations.
Most hispanic or latino folks that RSS- work the feed through google translator automatically, but that is a great suggestion.
B
Campos seems to have a temper too doesn`t he? Ripping up citations..
This guy must`ve been bubbling when he gets out of jail and Ms Kesse is gone on a romantic trip, still bubbling when she returns too seemingly. Is it possible there was something going on between them secretly? Lake Ellenor has been recently searched for Michelle Parker who is missing too. http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/november/351481/Crews-searching-Lake-Ellenor-area-in-Michelle-Parker-case
I`d be interested to know what Mr Campos was doing from 9.57pm the night Ms Kesse went missing and also if he was accounted for at all times on the impromptu road trip to Lake Ellenor area. His wife have anything to say?
was she posting picts from her trip ,or sending emails about how her and rob were gellin ,cuz it seems her had access to her email.is any video still available to see his 2000 taurus near her building .
the company should be audited..this guy is showing up late ,making imprompyu trips to another office ,going to jail,ripping up tickets, hacking emails.where there’s smoke there’s usually fire.
So, do we know when the last time Travis’ phone pinged and where? Did someone retrieve his phone from her condo before she arrived? Or did she have it with her and the abductor took Travis’ phone thinking maybe it was also hers?
I know I have frequently gotten up to go to work and had to use the dryer to get wrinkles out of my clothes before wearing them, or have had to retrieve items from dryer to wear to work that day. I’m guessing she could have went to dryer after shower to get items to wear to work and left her wet towel there in the process?
so if jenn’s car left the complex that night, she most likely would have used the back entrance/exit that would not have required her to go past the guard in the front.
were there any phone calls between her and Mr. Campos, or anyone else that night after she left work besides the phone call to her family that could indicate she was making plans with someone that night? is it possible that Jenn made verbal plans at work with Mr. Campos to meet at a certain spot and things went bad from there? is it possible that she was involved with Mr. Campos on a friendly level, or possibly more and decided to meet with him on that night to end things?
also, is there any significance to the name Scott Stryker that was named in this piece that we should be looking further into?
blink, this is truly one of the best pieces you have written. i had heard about jennifer’s case and didn’t know that much about it but now i am going to be checking back everyday for updates and trying to learn as much about it as i can.
jennifer and her family deserve answers and justice needs to be served. i wish yuri melich could work on this case!
To my knowledge, Mr. Stryker’s involvement with Jennifer was exactly as I specified.
Thank you kindly.
B
One other thing, wouldn’t the person who drove/parked her car and seen on video have left some DNA on steering wheel?/Door to car? something? A hair in the seat? I dont know but you would think so.
Yes, I would, but I have my doubts about the processing of the vehicle. That said, I also do not believe it was used to transport her so maybe that is LE’s lucky break.
B
Lizzy
The behavior you describe regarding your boss sending a search party to look for you is exactly what any good boss would do regarding a woman being late. He probably called your residence to check if you were still there before sending the searchers out.
Unfortunately, today we have too many bosses that have zero concern for the well being of their employees and never think of doing what yours did. I always told anyone who worked for me, male or especilly females to get to a phone and call for help. Cell phones are everywhere today and that makes the job easier.
Jennifer’s father gave her reasonable advice about Campos. However, I would have arranged a meeting with hime to tell him that as a father he was on my watch list for harrasment and he should be careful of his behavior. Drew is certainly big enough to physically back that up.
If I were running the investigation today, there would be a total investigation of all the employees that had any reason to interact with Jennifer at work. In addition, I would put particular emphasis on Campos,his friends and family.
Makes me want to take a two x four to the backsides of the supervisors of the detectives at OCPD. To think they didn’t pay any attention to what the two that were assigned to the case were doing or didn’t even have a daily or every other day review of progress. This tells me the whole department is/was in shambles. I can only hope that the exposure to the light of publicity will help correct things.
Letting LE play the secret game regarding the parents of a missing young woman should never be allowed. The public needs to put a stop to this behavior. We do that by taking a good hard look at the whole department. Where are the local investigative reporters? Maybe the state needs to get their people involved as well.
Honestly, I have met the bulk of the media in Orange county, more than once. Some are excellent reporters, but I have yet to consider one investigative who did not have a lead actually handed to them. In fact, I had to have a legal meeting with a news director for “borrowing” some of my not yet published content a reporter claimed as their own. sigh. That experience notwithstanding, I could not do that job in it’s current non-editorial capacity. I would be fired immediately when I could not hide my humor or dismay at reading copy I did not believe myself, lol.
They are however, excellent at interacting with the locals, and do a fine job reporting- it has serious limitations. I also can tell you I view the whole media thing differently after reading Mark Fuhrman’s book. I know Joyce and Drew think highly of most of them and are appreciative of their efforts.
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stunning work, i agree. blink, your instincts are phenomenal , and what you were able to uncover by starting over with fresh eyes is just amazing. the original handling of this case is just shameful. thank you for recharging everyone’s batteries.
Thank you kindly marnie.
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Blink.. ??? how did she leave her condo? In the culprit vehicle ?
Or do you think she drove herself to some location not yet mentioned ?
One or the other. I cannot make sense of why anyone would move her car if it took place in the condo-
You move a vehicle because it ties you to the crime by it’s location, imo.
B
You move a vehicle because it ties you to the crime by it’s location, imo.
B
or to say it another way , maybe in this case ,her vehicle is at the crime/dump scene,and you dont want her found.——— she couldve met someone,somewhere, got out of her vehicle ,entered theirs to talk.—soil on her tires? was she parked lakeside.