Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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Re rose
R.snip
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-208/#comment-2244308
To clarify my own position, I don’t support Terri in any respect. she may be guilty. she has Houze, her parents & son, and a few passionate followers online to support her.
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I appreciate the clarification- I must say Rose that your passionate posts on these boards -seemed quite supportive of TH not just IRT to her rights. So I dont think Im the only one to think wow to this revelation
So again I appreciate the clarification
IF TH did act w/another : “sz”
and she has refused to speak or aid the investigation…then How can DY TH know the specifics to impart to the public and why would they- and why wouldnt they be frightened angered and devastated by the potential of TH involvement.?
The GJ is still seated- all witnesses are held to a no divulgence policy-
LE is still working the case and therefore probably need to keep much underwraps….
Why would DY and KH be chastized for their actions and speech during the anniversary as being unproductive?
Wouldnt the possibility of TH guilt and then her subsequent silence be the blame for the lack of productivity or LEs failure to find another avenue in which to charge TH/find SZ be the cause? ?
AJMO Peace
Actually, Mom 3.0, I’ve posted that or similar language more than once over the years.
Readers can hold opinions about others’ povs as they please.
I can’t say from her passionate writings I think even TKG is confident
Terri was uninvolved in the abduction plan.
I can only state that in 5 years I have never heard a compelling piece of evidence that held up to scrutiny that made me think she was involved. And I am 100% confident that SZ exists and in many ways I staked my professional reputation on it so I guess at the very least thanks Kaine for the acknowledgement DY nor LE was willing to provide.
That said- for me, there is a whole big victimology study that could have contributed through any one of their associations. If at the end of 5 years we are still saying we don’t know who it is- let me offer that is because LE has no flipping idea what they are doing even with 11 or 12 “agency partners” or it’s because this was a random predator.
B
One potential reason that LE and all family members stayed together during those first days would be a ransom. It might also explain why Kaine and Terri went to the gym. Perhaps that was part of the ransom request by the ‘kidnapper’.
A ransom might also explain the eyeglass commentary by Kaine and investigators.
When I first started covering this case, that was my first response, because it is so odd to have that many onsite. And I add, to have an FBI agent assigned to TH. I was the one who started the glasses conversation because of what I believed was a strange coincidence and then wording in an update. I do believe it’s possible and have since very early his glasses or parts of his glasses were found or believed to be found.
B
mom 3.0 said “Wouldnt the possibility of TH guilt and then her subsequent silence be the blame for the lack of productivity or LEs failure to find another avenue in which to charge TH/find SZ be the cause? ?”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
In my opinion that would not be the cause of LE’s failure to find another ( investigation) avenue.
In my opinion mcso’s lack of training in child stranger abductions, lack of experience, & failure to turn their investigatory budget cash cow over to an LE agency that does is the cause. Terri’s not that powerful to put golden handcuffs on any mcso employee investigating any aspect of the man who left with Kyron. Except now apparently Desiree is sure Kyron left with Terri & Kiara.
1. I would take it a step further to say that this investigation stalled when improper and untrained LEA’s compromised what they believed was their suspect. All of which occurred on an open radio frequency. Oh, and btw, he was an illegal alien in the US with a DEA agent sitting next to him. DEA agent/interpreter/entrapment coach, whatever. They had a woman they had literally brow beat for over 3 weeks they believed was responsible although they had not a scintilla of proof and she gave them his freakin card. And this was- wait for it, shortly after she was on her way back from being told she failed her 3rd poly and turned around in the parking lot to make sure they knew she knew she was being followed.
I repeat- ALL on an open channel.
B
Rose says: … She brings her
detective the speechmaker to serve as her media
spokesman and criminologist, aka salesman for Terri did it theme.
In retrospect imo it was insane he was the media speechmaker for
the first family of 4 event.
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Tony has every right to speak on Kyron’s behalf. He was a stepfather and loved Kyron. I’m sure it was a mutual decision among all four adults to have Tony speak at the first presser.
I agree he has rights, but I believe that decision was tactical by FBI input.
B
Most awkward about that first presser was the way Terri hung all over Desiree. Under no circumstances was that appropriate. Even Tony wasn’t rubbing on Desiree and placing his head on her chest.
Whether she’s guilty or innocent that was super weird and marked the beginning in the public’s mind that Terri could have had something to do with it followed by the sexts with Michael Cook which solidified those early public suspicions.
If those were things Terri was comfortable doing I am certain there were other odd behaviors we don’t know about that concerned Kyron’s other three parents and LE.
Not gonna lie. Affected me the exact same way. I will say that I believe there was a lot going on in that house that had nothing to do with Kyron and I think the Cook thing was Kaine baiting. Inappropriate, but I understand it.
B
Speaking of separating the bios, they were all being briefed together in the beginning, were they not? All 4 parents, steps included. Then suddenly there was a threesome, and IIRC the threesome was being briefed, sans TMH. Then IIRC, it appeared to be only DY & KH being briefed together. Suddenly, that no longer happened. I think it was about the time DY gave her first solo speech where she mentions hate mail or something. Kaine’s lone speech after that indicated he didn’t exactly know what she was referring to, so here’s my question. Have these individuals been separated by LE for a reason? Under what circumstances would LE separate the bios and give them separate briefings?
All along I was thinking DY just couldn’t stand being around Kaine anymore, due to his *choices*, whatever she meant by that. Were either are all of them told by LE that they should not be communicating with one another for some reason.
IDK, just curious stuff.
“Mom3.0 says:
June 2, 2015 at 1:44 pm
Re Rose/MockingbirdSings says:
June 1, 2015 at 9:33 pm
I realize that emotions are very high on this anniversary and everyone is blowing off steam- me too”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-210/#comment-2244405
Not blowing off steam. I believe both Tony and his Medford coworkers were not only highly unprofessional but also
uncivil and presumptuous to the extent they spent any time in the Horman family’s home, particularly when the Hormans were out, unless invited in for a meal or coffee. The Hormans had many obligations individually & together and had a local support system. Desiree once lived in Portland and had other local support, as well as what she imported from So OR.
O/T
This is interesting, I hope they use this technology to find missing persons and I wonder why it wasn’t used to help that poor family that was lost in Southern Oregon, sounds like they could have somehow beamed in on one of their cell phones.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/fbi-mysterious-surveillance-aircraft-us-cities-31461098
“either or all of them” not “either are all of them” sorry.
@AS wrt “Tony has every right to speak on Kyron’s behalf. ”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
That is absolutely true. And to me it would have been very appropriate if he’d spoken on Kyron’s behalf after
Kaine, Desiree, and Terri who either were bios or a longterm residential stepmother.
He was new to the family and imo should have been deferential to the Hormans.
he was I think self-anointed in collaboration with MCSO in a joint plan to observe the other family members. And he presented himself as speaking on their behalf, after apparently abusing their hospitality for a couple weeks and having firm opinions about Terri.
I don’t know if he abused their hospitality but I get what you are saying. The one thing I will say is that DY has helped facilitate CART in Jackson County- and it is my belief she did so because she learned over the years how abrupt the MCSO departure was. Although, I will say, it is void of the acknowledgement that Medford PD was there. I also think it was days and no more than a week, but I could be wrong on that. I think once TH came back that Monday as the antichrist and heavy perspirator, it was over.
B
Let me clarify what I heard Kaine say on KEX.
In the beginning of the interview he said that he believed that Kyron was still alive and that Kyron would be almost 12 and may, by now, go without glasses. There was a .org site for tips and they mentioned that with holiday weekends coming up, they hoped that nationally people would keep an eye out. His basis for Kyron being alive was that there were so many searches and nothing had been found.
Funny how Kaine thinks nothing has been found while DY makes it sound like she finds things all the time. Those two couldn’t be further apart.
JMO but I don’t know if TH is guilty or innocent but I firmly believe she did not remove Kyron from the school and based on that, what has been done to her is criminal. The most incredible part to me is that a boy went missing, vanished and the thoroughly incompetents have not a clue what happened to him. People seem to be completely unconcerned about that but can’t get over a wacky step mother. Not real bright.
In the meantime the then Sheriff for Klamath Falls’ County arrived with his
SAR team and wrote once (iirc) he took one look at the chaotic crime
scene & search and told his men to go home. I wonder how much charge those Medford
LE volunteers took?
Yes ma’am. Not sure about sheriff or captain, but true. Sharp as usual.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-210/#comment-2244415
“That said- for me, there is a whole big victimology study that could have contributed through any one of their associations”
To me, having no crime experience, but thinking managerially, from the first day there should have been 5 victimology teams (not counting Kyron) working under the close supervision of 2 partners with stranger and family-acquaintance child abduction experience, because on its face, imo that was what needed to be ruled out.
Teams centered on each of the 4 adults & their present & past associations, and one for the school broken down into 2 subgroups of PPS personnel and Fair attendees.
For Kaine, I’d go back to molesting grandpa, the iconoclastic & flamboyant Neil (and his Lodge associates like the proudly profane Model Mayhem photographer), all those brothers and their various wives. Then there are his affairs, short & long, gym associates, steroid associates, disgruntled Intel coworker competitors or firees or forced to retirement. Not to mention copious evenings spent, allegedly, on WoW, and did Kyron or James ever play it the numerous evenings he traveled (allegedly)?
For Terri, James’ high school associates, & prior husbands esp the one stuck with child support without the child.
For Desiree, those ex-flames & lovers, and whatever her associates were with her hidden health problem. For Tony, those he arrested & sent up the river, those he shot guns & fished with who’d met Kyron. & any Ex.
PPS personnel and Fair attendees, a mammoth job.
Those two (1 paid, 1 unpaid) at mcso hdqtrs are 1/10th of the minimum resources needed. And lack the stranger-abduction experienced close supervision.
If I were the bios, all my media sound bite would have been focused on the mcso press release, its inadequacies and the investigatory inadequacies, along with the failed history, and call for a new LE agency. But, if they did that, Staton could leak their warts.
Was 6/4/10 during Portland Fleet week?
How can Kaine Horman KNOW there was an accomplice?
If he KNEW for a fact that TMH had an accomplice who abducted his son for her, then so would LE, and TMH would be in jail.
He knows no such thing. What he knows is: Terri couldn’t have physically taken Kyron, during the time LE has narrowed down, because her timeline checks out and she was elsewhere. So, he *thinks*, and or LE gave him the “impression” she must have had an accomplice.
Does anyone here really believe that he would have agreed to giving TMH visitation with their daughter if he truly thought she had some hitman abduct his son? I know I don’t, not for one minute.
Question is why has LE never made the statement that they believe TMH had help in abducting her step-son? Well firstly, because they’ve never said Terri was a suspect in the child’s abduction, so how can *no suspect* have an accomplice? My guess as to why they’ve not had any comments, is because they have ZERO evidence that Kyron was abducted in the first place. They know he disappeared, but they have no idea how. I think they have an idea of when narrowed down, that is the only way they can rule out anybody. I don’t think LE knows for sure exactly how Kyron left that school. He could have walked off campus and then been abducted. He could have walked off campus and fell into some abandoned well somewhere. He could also have been somehow incapacitated within that school by someone and put into some sort of container and left that way. (I pray not.) IMHO, whomever asked for help in Ms. M’s classroom must have eventually been identified and cleared, or there would have been a composite and description issued. I’m afraid here that all LE has, 5 years and 4000-and-counting tips later, all they have is “impressions”.
My point is nothing has really changed in this information, except the clarification by KH that TMH did not physically abduct Kyron, nor did Dede Spicher, both of their timelines must have eventually checked out. Some of us had already assumed this, some not, but KH is verifying it:
“She has become a dead end as far as making progress,” Horman said. “Someone else was involved. There’s someone we don’t know about.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html
(That may be the biggest understatement ever made in this case, but I’m glad it got put in writing.)
But to me what is troublesome and raises volumes of concern as to whatever is going on in DY’s world, because she just contradicted what Kaine has said here, when she posted on FB the other day that Terri, Kiara & Kyron walked out of that school together that day, and Kyron never made it home. WTH? (Posting her comment again, in case someone missed it):
Desiree Davidson Young Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn’t Kyron? Where’s Kyron?
I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from….the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where’s Kyron?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971
One of these parents is out of LE’s loop or maybe both are, and neither of them are on the same page as the other. Why?
DY is manipulating information to make it sound like new news/evidence to support her position. Why not? Who is going to finally contradict her when she knows 1. nobody in the media is ever going to ask her for verification and/or challenge the info. 2. TH is certainly not going to publicly contradict her. 3. It is used to validate donations for searches.
B
” I think once TH came back that Monday as the antichrist and heavy perspirator, it was over. B”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
Blinkism: true dat.
What was going on that Monday?
Desiree says she was at her side in Terri’s home when the school robocall came “he us absent”.
Unlikely kiara’s teething or ear infection was resolved and Terri got any sleep, as hubbie avowed he never drove a kid to settle.
I have shifted to thinking the robocall call was a set up to rattle TH before the poly.
So we know Terri was smothered at that moment by grieving mother who even then thot her the devil that did it (and in the presence of LE Tony “they’re gonna scrutinize you” and his LE colleagues) and Terri doubtless felt guilty as hell both for “lising” Kyron and for having let down Desiree immensely by not preventing this. In Terri’s shoes I would have second guessed and berated myself repeatedly. Along with on Monday son James was suffering.
Imo Tony fed the polygrapher a few Qs.
Lynne is sharing Perf Review Comment click bait topic
with a 3rd staffer. bet she’s a popular newsroom peer.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/kyron_horman_candlelight_vigil.html#incart_m-rpt-1
Why would Kaine say that Terri has not had any contact with Kiara? Did she drop the ball on this? Or is the Kaine household not holding up their end of this deal?
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
cant believe that Kain Horman said this right after his ex wife- Kyrons mother, recently announced she was planning another search and is trying to raise money for it. Think he just likes being vindictive? Maybe he just wants everyone to donate to him alone? what is with this guy?
tiny says:
June 2, 2015 at 11:14 am
Kaine is on KEX right now. He is saying that Kyron was taken out of the area because he believes every square inch of this area was searched.
He believes he is “out there” and that it is important to look for him without glasses.
Is Terri dropping the ball on this custody visitation deal? Kaine says in this article that she has not seen Kiara at all, no contact whatsoever. Good healthy food for the stalkers, a proclamation like that.
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
Nelmel- it appears Kyle said that, not Kaine if we are referring to the video segment. He also never says TH is involved, Kyle said that as well and then cut to Kaine’s comment beginning with “someone else is involved”.
B
Everton says Kyron ” never made it to class”
Everton, those nice ladies in the “newsroom” like Lynne are playing you.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/kyron_horman_candlelight_vigil.html#incart_m-rpt-1
I just looked up Everton Bailey Jr.
He’s got the O crime beat.
So why was Lynne stepping on his toes anyway?
a Health Reporter’s picture is worth a thousand words.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/lynne-terry/a/12/517
what sweet editor fed her performance-review click-columns?
@Amys Sister says:
June 2, 2015 at 3:45 pm
“Most awkward about that first presser was the way Terri hung all over Desiree. Under no circumstances was that appropriate. Even Tony wasn’t rubbing on Desiree and placing his head on her chest.”
For me, that wasn’t so odd. It appeared to me, my impression was Terri was trying in her own way to comfort DY. Do you remember DY saying at one point she asked TMH, well if it was Kiara, wouldn’t you want to do all you could? and according to DY, the answer from Terri was, “of course”. I think Terri herself may have been looking for the comforting she was not getting from her husband. Just an observation, we all see pictures differently. For me, the most odd in that first family presser, was KH. No emotion whatsoever. Odd to me then, and still is now. (Not that I think that may mean anything in regards to Ky’s disappearance, it just may be how he is, which, again would explain TMH’s actions even more.) JMO and all that jazz.
“Whether she’s guilty or innocent that was super weird and marked the beginning in the public’s mind that Terri could have had something to do with it followed by the sexts with Michael Cook which solidified those early public suspicions.”
Now, here I think we most all agree. This sexting crap was strange as hell……unless Terri somehow knew that Kaine was on the other end of this phone and this was actually a set up. Which could be….or not. No one in the media has asked, so we again, have no answer. Was this just some weird-ass sting again invented by the impressionists? IDK. Ever wonder why Mike Cook himself has never commented on this scenario, yet was allegedly subpoenaed to appear in court in the same regard? Yet another person silenced by the DA? IDK
I hope Blink is working on a new update of some sort, we are at 10,400+ posts. Then again, I wouldn’t want this one to disappear into DAD’s world.
Not soon T.Ruth, sorry. I am an investigative journalist not a clickster, lol.
B
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
Kaine Horman believes Kyron’s stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy’s disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.
(snipped here and here, more @ link)
This is where it started: bus stop. “Immediate panic,” described Kyron Horman’s father after boy never made it home.
“Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are,” said Kaine Horman.
Kaine Horman says Terri has had “no contact of any kind” with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle.
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Check out the video @1:06, none other than TMH herself retrieving fliers from the car to pass them out. Oh wait, according to the haters can’t be her, she’s never done anything to help with the search for Kyron.
I think there is a disparity between the video and text- He does not say the same things in the video.
B
Okay, so here’s the question, how is it TMH has had no contact whatsoever with their daughter, when the court ordered there could be contact by mail/photos, etc? WTH is going on here?
Iboshi quote that I saw- in the video, does not match that- anyone?
B
O/T, but just an example of how a thorough search can still be not so thorough:
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) – Police say contractors clearing overgrown brush from the backyard of an elderly Portland man missing since last Christmas have found human remains in an area previously checked by search and rescue dogs.
(snipped, more@link)
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/01/02/missing-82-year-old-portland-man/21192507/
Just an fyi- most SAR dogs are looking for live scent. Scent tracker k9′s are different than those trained with putracine and cadaverine which I have no doubt I may have misspelled. Add snow/ice to the mix and it changes the scent molecule. I trained in medico legal death investigation and walked past a humerous 3x. It is by design so one realizes how precise one needs to be, but it happens more than one might think.
B
Meant to add before I posted, SAR dogs are not cadaver dogs.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
@Blink. wrt “Kaine Horman says Terri has had “no contact of any kind” with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle.”
What’s new? I felt the Stip would have precisely this result from the git go which is why I repeatedly posted Bunch was bush league and Terri was screwed in the settlement Stip.
visitation if any was all in the hands of a lone nonprofessional ranger a Lynne Terry type true believer, and explicitly was dependant on feedback from Kaine as to kiara’s reaction & adjustment to those photos and letters (haha)
all the while with faux mommie’s (love them gurlz) meddling.
The only thing I can offer is that I have seen many a protracted divorce end up with shitty settlements to avoid the additional expense of a court trial. With a Judge that consistently leaned to LE, DA and the plaintiff as a result. Certainly not the standard, and in my view a GAL should have been appointed years earlier.
B
T. Ruth says:
June 2, 2015 at 10:54 pm
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
Kaine Horman believes Kyron’s stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy’s disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.
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in the video Kaine does NOT say he believes Kyron’s stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy’s disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.
Kaine says
“Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are,”
Kyle added in in athe part about Terri after the interview was over and he is the one saying it
)
So now we have KGW (Kyle Iboshi) reporters not only leaving out important parts of the news but also putting words in peoples mouths that they clearly did not say in the interview.
This why I never watch the KGW news, KOIN and KATU are pretty bad but at least you can halfway believe what they say.
@ TRuth: After reviewing and pausing the video I don’t believe that was Terri getting fliers from the vehicle.
@ Blink: Iboshi confirms in the video that Terri has had no contact with Kaine or Kiara.
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Kaine looks tired. It makes me imagine the burden he carries. What a bummer for this family. God bless him in the search for his son.
@Blink. Can you delete my comments at
11:50
and 11:59?
There I was steamed.
That Kaine would brag publically k had not seen her mother.
There is a Commenter on the O articles who has bragged continuously that k has had no contact with Terri. I assumed that person was a family insider, probably Kristen or her sister, and that she was correct because she was so assured & consistant.
It is good to know where Kaine stands. Iirc any contact with Terri was in the hands of an older woman who, online by rep, was flakey as could be. Former clients said she vehemently took sides in custody battles. Terri must be out of litigation money. Poor kiara who in the control of an allegedly highly promiscuous mysogenist and an unrelated rolling stone who gathers girlz and a new grandmother who’s been married, isn’t it 5 times?
@Mom 3.0. I volunteer that I am now officially steamed.
At Kaine and his livein faux mother, bragging at severing k
from a mother not charged nor convicted.
I hope if Kyron is alive he stays in good hands until
he is 18 when he can safely return and follow in his
brother’s footsteps as to who he lives with.
Today’s offering from the Zero. This article is interesting because it directs people to the haters.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/kyron_horman_case_continues_to.html#incart_river
lol, you would think around 60K posted comments, numerous articles and major developments that they themselves then covered might get a nod- but, did I miss that Stacy Green has a missing 9 year old son? Or forget that?
B
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/kyron_horman_case_continues_to.html#incart_2box
Everton has improved Soldier’s print grammar. he must realize spotlighting a stalker only adds fuel to
someone already burning.
Reading the article comments where Desiree’s followers battle to correct there was no man with Kyron
versus those who believe Blink’s interviews and assertions that the bios were briefed about him, it is clear the Davidson ladies have lied to, and are perpetuating the lie to, their donors and followers. And if the owner of gofundme will lie about something so basic, how can she be trusted with the money? There’s no accountability.
I find it amusing that at different times, both DY and KH have mentioned this individual exists, in different ways and in several interviews over the last 5 years but cauldron collective refuses to acknowledge that, and also refuses that Houze, a sworn officer of the court, declared same in open court and deposed witnesses on the topic.
Kaine, openly now admitting someone else is involved although no idiot is apparently curious enough to ask him- in what way?, was this what I tried to ask you a year ago and you said it needed to come from law enforcement? What makes you sure- is that because DDS has been cleared- you know the woman still currently being vilified by these cronies?
The Murder Biz people- alive and well in Oregon.
B
Kaine does look poorly, and with no crying teether at home.
Maybe he’s continued the 4 am gym times, and late nite variety.
The comments are getting interesting. It seems to me that there is only money to be made here if the evil stepmother story holds.
Yep. The Murder Biz.
B
@tiny,
Tell me Kaine Horman didn’t say Kyron would be “almost 12″. Because he would be 12 already (last September) and he will be *almost 13*!
T. Ruth, I can’t remember what Kaine said the age was, 12 was mentioned the “almost” was my mistake.
I’m so sorry
@Amys Sister says:
June 3, 2015 at 1:53 am
IDK, I slowed it down too and it looks like her to me. That’s also an older piece of video, those are some of the older fliers.
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@cd
I know what Kaine said in the video. One can assume by watching the video that it is not in its entirety. They were obviously discussing something before he starting talking about SZ. Just me, but I don’t think Kyle would have said that, if he hadn’t heard it from Kaine, but who knows. The reporting on this case has been less than stellar for sure, probably edited out by KH himself.
tiny says:
June 3, 2015 at 11:40 am
Well that’s a relief, thanks for clarifying.
Ok- anyone, searched my archives a bit, SG had a 9 year old son who vanished? I read that article again 3 times. This is the snip.
Green said Kyron’s disappearance resonated with her because she has a son who was two years older than Kyron when he vanished. She also runs a Facebook page, “Kyron Horman’s World Soldiers,” which she said she maintains to keep the word out about his disappearance.
I do not remember hearing that nor have I ever read that before- where are his facebook pages and what reporter isn’t asking that?
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Custody Stipulation:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf
A.3. See first 2 sentences. No contact of any kind remains in effect until the parent coordinator Billie Bell (A.4.) says it is “clinically indicated.” Bell has only 2 sources for her clinical judgement–a child therapist selected by Kaine, and Kaine (and Kristen). I never expected under Bell contact of any kind with mother. Kaine has never acted in good faith with Mother at any time wrt kiara.
D.3. Appearing in public with stalkers who do contact Terri (Green, Davidson) would make them 3rd parties thru whom Kaine is acting in future stalking events. ergo, he cannot be at their event on 6/4.
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Similarly he could not say on camera Terri was responsible, but he could be off camera while Kyle said it.
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Imo he made the statement because Green got on him in her FB for failing to say Terri was responsible, repeating Desiree’s language about his “poor choices.” The last thing he wanted on 6/4 was Desiree in front of the cameras at the Wall accusing him of “poor choices.”
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If Desiree has not been fully briefed on SZ, and Kaine has, then it is possible mcso has not ruled out SZ having been an associate of Desiree’s.
It is possible, even likely, Cook was used by LE, not Kaine,
and cooperated to avert a drug charge for coke or
whatever his ex posted he used then regularly.
Or both.
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@Blink. poor writing. The “he” who vanished
refers to Kyron, not her 2 year older son.
Geeze, I guess it is poor writing. At least I am not cray cray, thank you.
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After you mentioned that , Blink, I did a quick search and could not find anything on a son of hers that disappeared. Plan to look some more later.
Weird.
Rose is right, it is poorly worded. The referenced to vanished was Kyron, not her son.
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“The Murder Biz people- alive and well in Oregon.
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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
It’s more than that Blink. More than these Writer’s & their Corporate employer’s BIZ.
In this case, uniquely, both parents are part of the Biz, using PR and manipulating facts to take in money,
and to have a public imag. And don’t tell me it’s for Kyron, because they are NOT doing anytthing to advance the investigation. I don’t follow these stories like Anthony, or Arias until her trial, so don’t know any facts or history of the parties. But isn’t there some BIZ analogy to the Anthony infant’s grandparents here?
1. You’re right. Both DY and KH were paid guests of the Dr. Phil show.
2. Anthony’s were paid $650K for their interview on his show.
3. Casey Anthony is in NY ( was) with her PR agent swinging the arm of her original payment by abc for $250K.
You know who I am sure has not made a red cent, in fact lost everything and has turned down all requests for interviews? Terri Horman.
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