Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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Is anyone else having the issue each time you return to this site you have to resign in with email?
Doesn’t matter, but one doesn’t see one’s own posts in moderation so there’s no opportunity to cring, wail “I said that?”, or think “too much.”
I assumed Bunch delivered a copyof the letter to Engel as well on 12/23. It is mentioned in Grass’ notes. Iirc the context was wrt to the RSE ruling being termed by the Judge a Final Order (by changing by hand Bunch’s proposed Order from “preliminary” in that Emergency Hearing).
Lol. No cringing or wailing allowed. I think it is your settings or the new device? You should be able to see your own posts in moderation until they are moderated. Your email should populate each time, but as an example, if I am logging in from my iphone, I have to put my credentials in every time as opposed to my laptop or office PC.
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Rose
In regard to the input of credentials: If you have automatic updates for your browser, then the info is cleared. If you are using wireless or satellite access, there is a timing problem that will move your comments to being in moderation but may not show them. With my satellite connection, I see this all the time. The phone or pad browser may not keep the credentials unless it is told to do so by the user.
We now have a “Max Senate” silent film comedy routine regarding the court and officers going in all directions. Someone as Blink said should be tasked with keeping up with what is actually happening. We need a flow chart and a time line.
An inexperienced judge dealing with a complicated case. The emergency hearing may have something to do with the letter sent to the court earlier and the deadline of year end for tax purposes that could materially change the agreed to settlement. If the judge did not read the letter and therefore did not realize the tax deadline, he could have been reminded by one of the attorneys via phone or Email.
I think to include context, we need to include the entire release paragraph. I will do that in my next response.
B
Looking forward to it.
Rose says:
January 3, 2014 at 5:14 am
Why ask for Briefs
on the subject matter of the hearing if he just eliminated
the possibility of their relevance & use?
(snipped)
What a mess!
@Rose,
I usually have to re-sign in after re-booting my computer. Also I use two browsers at the same time, for different purposes. I read and post on BOC using one of these browsers. Occasionally I forget and go to BOC from the other browser. It wants me, unexpectedly, to sign in which I do and it gobbles away the whole think, sign-in and post. I’ve always assumed that it think’s I’m trying to impersonate myself or something.
@vw, did you get the signature page for the hand modified document?
I’ve been thinking about the multiple stings conducted, and wondering if any were legitimate and if evidence gathered would even be usable in court. that coupled with the double police presence from the beginning, not recording interviews. It’s almost like they did expect they would be able to use any of it, it was just pressure to get her to crack or run away or something. and then the unbelievable conduct of these court proceeding. almost like a spoof, from no evidence for RO to DA calling many shots in divorce, well you know. like delay and deliberate obfuscation was the goal. maybe a crazy idea, but if K does indeed have some kind of charges in the offing and if they involve any members of LE or gov, holding things off as long as possible might be better than nothing.
correction: DIDN’T expect to be able to use any of it
Rose says: Doesn’t matter, but one doesn’t see one’s own posts in moderation so there’s no opportunity to cring, wail “I said that?”, or think “too much.”
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LOL, indeed. I’ve done all three, sometimes at the same time
I admit to ignorance on the matter but is there any innocent reason Kantor would have made those changes? Maybe in preparation for his final order? It doesn’t appear he was trying to hide that he had done it.
How could he have already ruled on RSE testimony if there was another hearing coming up to argue it?
3 nice online references for Bunch
http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/97214-or-steven-bunch-1489925/reviews.html
@erose says:
January 3, 2014 at 3:35 am
Xactly what I was trying to say. But that’s if it is a typo. Who knows!
Weird thing happening on my computer is every time I come to this new thread, it’s at the beginning. Usually takes me right to whatever is new.
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Is it possible that Houze may be less interested in attending the next hearing because he’s working on getting a new Judge? Just wondering how that works.
I think they, everyone, LE, KH, DY & TY all *thought* in the very beginning, once they realized he wasn’t just lost somewhere, that Terri had Kyron hidden away someplace and it was all about custody. Why they thought that, I don’t know, but RSE’s recent deposition confirms there seems to be a reason TY was fearful of KH taking away her daughter. (I wonder if the Moulton’s were asked that question in their deposition? My guess is they were asked if Terri had ever said she had that fear, and my guess is their answers were yes. And perhaps that is why Mr Moulton long ago said he was worried about her being arrested, because of her openly expressing that thought. Perhaps also openly expressing she wished her husband was dead.) IDK?
Anyway, I think they all LE, KH, DY & TY thought putting pressure on her would make her talk. As soon as the alleged MFH words were spoken to LE by RSE, everything changed. If she in fact pointed to RSE, and it did nothing but get her way she is today, no wonder she won’t talk anymore. I think this was around June 8/9/10, whatever day we saw Gates & Staton both choke up. I don’t think KH or DY were made aware of this accusation at that time, but I do think TY was. JMO, which led him to say 100% sure and If not Terri then who?
I keep wondering what happened to the “she put it all in writing”, quoting DY. What did Terri put in writing? Where are the hate emails? If they existed, those alone would be enough to put a halt to her having custody of her daughter. Do they not exist at all, or were they totally made up by someone in LE to again sting or pressure Terri?
Anyway, I wonder if LE has dug themselves into such a huge hole with all this lying and sting business, they can no longer figure a way out. Therefore, the status quo is all they can do.
This whole case seems a shambles to me. It’s sad and no one is looking for Kyron because they are too busy looking to cover their ass.
I don’t know about the degree of Houze’s investment in the case, but when I first started attending hearings, Bunch came alone. It was only when criminal elements were involved that Houze came along. Houze doesn’t strike me as a slacker. I speculate that he is involved every step of the way even if he doesn’t attend a hearing. With the upcoming hearing that involves custody and probably RSE deposition, I believe (JMOO) that Houze and Bunch will work together on whatever is to be presented whether or not Houze attends.
It is always striking at the hearings that when Bunch speaks or if both are there and they take turns presenting, they clearly have prepared material. It is not off the cuff. Engel however seems entirely reactive, responding to whatever is being said. He might cite some case but doesn’t appear to have actually prepared a presentation.
Supposed to say Where she is today, not Way. Sorry.
Would Kaine have waited this long to get his divorce so that he could stash $$…? Can parties getting divorced do that without getting found out?
Also wondered if the ‘pending charges’ comment could be taken as a generality, not specific to just KH? (don’t have the link, but it’s everywhere here).
@Rose and Grass:
Rose says:
January 2, 2014 at 1:05 pm
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2mPVxQr_Oi4/Ur4OEvSrnVI/AAAAAAAAD2I/nacMvFKoQJI/s1600/P1012953.JPG
posted for the copy of Bunch’s Motion & Order modified by handwriting by HK.
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I’m stunned! where on earth did you find this? talk about smoking gun. I assume we need the final signed order to compare this too.
looks like somebody is not happy with the one-sidedness of this case and his giving up some info
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I posted this on my blog and talked about it last week-end, here, before the hearing, Grass.
I also posted another document on the blog and referenced here, too, at the same time.
Question is….where did you find it Rose? That’s not the URL to my Blog, and it seems too unattached to anything.
I went to the courthouse, Grass, FRIDAY before the last meeting.and found the latest doc from Engels contesting the motion for emergency hearing. The clerk took just a moment to print out the docket for me, and I didn’t have time to peruse Tome #3 so I took all to the little room. Misfiled in the 2nd folder, on top, was this ROUGH DRAFT.
It was so unusual to find something like this that I made a copy. JK was in a hurry to get this in the file, come hither. I mentioned at the time that he was more or less trying to make a “statement” to Bunch’s team rather than simply fine-tuning the grammar/wording.
I’ll look at my notes regarding some other discussion of that hearing.
@Grass, etc.
I think there is some confusion. Here is my take on that last hearing, and the one this week.
When we were all at the “Emergency Hearing” Dec. 16th, to strike RSE altogether OR be able to totally cross RSE, the ISSUE was simply that. It was not the custudy/visitation hearing. (that was to be held later in the week) in which the TEMPORARY custody would be decided not just based on RSE’s second meeting or NO. But on the totality of the witnessess that would take the stand.
Bunch said then, at that hearing, that he had three witnesses. Engel’s boasted, or threatened (however one wants to take his posturing) that he had at least 5 or 6.
Before that hearing many of us had read the Motion for the Emergency Hearing to discuss the need to strike out RSE’s testimony if they were NOT allowed to cross on the second meeting.
We had not read Engel’s Opposition to the Emergency Hearing because it hadn’t been filed yet.
http://vwoolfexploresthenorthwest.blogspot.com/2013/12/blog-post_27.html
In that document Engel’s not only explains again how he “found” Rudy, but also goes on the attack, with information gleaned from the depos of TMH’s parents.
Engels got this to the judge just prior to that hearing.
That hearing did not go well for TMH. For many reasons, IMO. First, Bunch and Houze hadn’t had time to read and/or react to Engel’s Opposition. They were, as Bunch put out there this last hearing, under the weather. Second, Kantor seemed, to me, “lost”. at having to make a decision himself and instead refered the “big” question to Rees. i.e. What “discovery” should I really, truly allow here? Third, Engels was moving into areas even more disconcerting: i.e “I know how MUCH money the Moultons have” and “You surely can cross Rudy and ask questions about his credibility….but you really should just ask your client about the last meeting, she can tell you what happened. Put her on the stand.”
Now…what to do? At that meeting they decided to postpone the Custody issue. (They most certainly knew the end of the year “compromise” on the financials was coming up then, too).
So Bunch writes up an MOTION/order to postpone. Kantor can’t be bothered to get it into an actual finished ORDER before filing….so just signs off on his red-pen corrected copy and has it filed well before this last hearing to sign-off on the divorce.
Now, at this recent hearing, after the financials….Bunch says we need to proceed on discussing the Custody/Visitation. Engels and Kantor act like NO VISITATION is a done deal and why should we?
That part kindof ticked me off. The “corrected” motion/order (that maybe only I had seen at that point) OBVIOUSLY stated that the “Briefs should be fully argued” and yet Kantor acted, to me, as if his correction that changed it to “it is best that ….” brushed off the Temp custody discussions altogether.
What is still up for grabs….even this last hearing, is when will be the actual hearing to bring the witnesses in?
It is incredible to me that Kantor is taking this so nonchalantly. This next hearing is set for only one day. That means that, again, the actual witnesses won’t be up for some time. As we knew, Grass, when Kantor asked Engels to try to get at least one of his witnesses in on the first day.
The wheels could move a little faster here. Despite his early rhetoric regarding Kiara…things are not going in her best interest.
TMH has had a rough 3+ years. Her parents, too. And James. There time has come.
Vw- I agree that Kantor is appearing to show bias in the custody issue and the whole Rees interjects is nuts. If Engel persists in RSE being “their case in chief” Bunch is going to have to engage Rees in a show of cause or pseudo- bifurcation of the mfh investigation being a closed probe. In my mind, if Kantor is going to be so unwilling to review the record, it is the only way to get out of that mire as I see it.
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T. Ruth says:
January 3, 2014 at 7:45 pm
Guys, we’re over here:
Thank you, hon. Was wondering why posts appeared “lost in tranposition”.
Also:;
Rose says:
January 3, 2014 at 5:14 am
Why ask for Briefs
on the subject matter of the hearing if he just eliminated
the possibility of their relevance & use?
(snipped)
What a mess!
IMO, since back in the summer of 2012 when he asked for “how to proceed with the 5h amendment “issue” regarding “deposing” TMH for the stupid suit….Kantor was at a loss on how to adjudicate this whole business.
He knew and knows there is no precedent that comes close. The suit, the divorce, the custody….all enshrined in a media-fueled “criminal case” that is so oblique that no one ever mentions the elephant in the room….there is no “case” against TMH.
Imagine Lindy Chamberlain or Patty Ramsey having their other children taken away until they “confess” to something they didn’t do, with a very real probablity of NEVER seeing them again if you say the wrong thing, or speak at all.
At least those two had the ability to proclaim their innocence. From a vibrant, happy mom who was “all about kids” TMH has for over three years suffered the ultimate….she has no voice.
Kantor can spin it just like Rosenthall, and Rackner. Ultimately he’ll have someone else make the decision for him, IMO. Might be Dr. V…..might be Houze/Bunch…might be the DA…but his little “corrections” made to motion/order to postpone tell me he is desperate to control a case that is bigger than him.
A few sites have picked up the same paragraph, though not a direct quote, interesting that Houze (who rarely contributes and is not the divorce lawyer) is sharing on the divorce agreement. Wasn’t it Engel whose comment was essentially no comment? So what does it mean that the usually vocal side is quieter and the quiet side is kinda talking?
snip>
The Oregonian reports (http://is.gd/VueMUy ) that Terri Horman’s lawyer Stephen Houze says the two have settled financial issues. They still need to work out legal custody issues and parenting time for their daughter Kiara, who is now 5.
http://www.ktvz.com/news/divorce-for-father-stepmom-of-kyron-horman/-/413192/23722830/-/102rk0y/-/index.html
Rose says:
January 3, 2014 at 11:01 am
Is anyone else having the issue each time you return to this site you have to resign in with email?
Doesn’t matter, but one doesn’t see one’s own posts in moderation so there’s no opportunity to cring, wail “I said that?”, or think “too much.”
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When I post i have to reenter my email only if I have reset my browser.When i post i can see my post waiting in moderation until i reset my browser. I usually reset my browser from the safari menu each time i leave this page. Maybe you have a security setting on your browser that resets it when you close the window.
Stipulation says Submitted by Engel & Approved by Bunch.
So we know who wrote the sentence with the pronoun that
imo put TH’s civil torts against KH into the toilet. The context
was a Mutual Release paragr in which both waived all civil claims
present or future arising from the marriage thru the date of the divorce
(the reason KH had to Be Quiet after the dissolution) except
agreement’s Enforcement, failure to disclose significant assets, and
claims she might have wrt currently pending criminal charges against
HIM.
Given Petitioner’s attorneys behavior dating from filing of RO, it seems to me
the only possible reason Bunch agreed to this signature on 12/31 (which is NOT
Mult Cty usual procedure per OR attorney site about variations among OR Counties),
is his client has been unable to pay him until settlement. However, I can’t see Wagner
or anyone else litigating him for malpractice due to throwing away her rights to
come back at KH in the Kyron abduction charges.
Imo Bunch should have converted Jan 2 into a Presettlement Conference & leaked the draft
so someone could point out whatever trojan horse existed in the
document.
Need another Emergency Hearing to go over another doc the Judge didn’t read.
Maybe he’s dyslexic and lacks a scanner & Kurzweil software.
If there’s one trojan, there are possibly others.
Thanks Truth
Wondered where people were
vw
I saw it for the FIRST time on a link you provided to your site, posted here.
After the recent hearing I remembered it & on that occasion did not look back thru yr Blink posts for the link
but googled words like Woolfe Northwest Kyron. Right now I guess I’ll go back thru all your posts here in Dec after
the hearing in question to find the original link.
Because I know you will ask, lol, your quilt is lovely lilac based on your email addy today
B
If Blink says SZ most likely local and we have listed possible roles a person would have access to Skyline, i.e., vendor, contractor, etc., reading this article makes me ask ‘is Skyline used as a polling place for the community?’ If so, have the resident polling records been reviewed? I know that’s a needle in a haystack but another option of potential suspects.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/04/schools-look-to-stop-serving-as-polling-stations-citing-security-concerns/?intcmp=latestnews
I think it’s pretty easy to conclude it was Engel who requested the Emergency Settlement Hearing & requested the Signature On The Spot (not Mult Cty’s Norm) because HE was the “Submittor” of Ltd Stip (Bunch Approver).
I hope if there was any associated injustice or fraud upon Bunch & Respondant in including a word substitution that did not comport with settlement discussions & settlement intent, Bunch – Houze will deal with it promptly & file a Bar complaint.
If Bunch proposed an Order, and Judge changed the substance majorly, as he did,
those terms to be changed from Bunch’s draft
were read into transcript with both attorneys given opportunity
to argue the change.
Why they thought that, I don’t know, but RSE’s recent deposition confirms there seems to be a reason TY was fearful of KH taking away her daughter.
Correction to my post above: TMH (not TY) was fearful of KH taking away,
(I hate using just initials I always tend to screw them up, sorry.)
I sure can, but look closely at it, you will see what I mean.
That IOS update is a PITA, I have the same issue.
B
good job vw! I didn’t bother to look at 2nd folder since we were well into 3rd. I must have missed your post about it last week.
wasn’t the whole point of postponing the temp parenting time, to discuss what of RSE deposition could be included if he couldn’t be cross examined about the sting? if Kantor was going to rule on what he “knew”, they could have gone ahead with those two days with the witnesses.
I don’t think Feb 12 is a substitute for the days in Dec. My understanding is that Bunch is to file briefs, engel to respond and that will be focus.
remember Engel’s speech about the meeting with RSE? where he talked about 3 people being present, T, RSE and Kiara, an infant. that T could tell what happened, don’t need to depend on RSE. I understood that to be about the sting, and that’s what I put in my notes. Do you remember it as being about the sting or the restaurant meeting? It was because I thought it was sting that I asked Bunch that question.
testing 123 (ignore)
LOL LOL. Red Rover Come Over. Copy.
B
Told to sign in again (after iphone battery death & recharge),
I’m yellow & not a Lavender Lady again.
Yippee Yi Yo Kay-ee!
Paranoia begone….
Sorry for OT.
LOL.
B
there are some fine Blink comments at conclusion of last thread worthy of a visit
If you think they are worthy of bringing over please do, or anyone else.
B
When I look at the changes Kantor made, I hear him saying “don’t tell me what to do” and “don’t tell me how to proceed”.
He changes the “would violate” Respondents constitutional rights to due process to “might violate”.
So by making that change, what does that say to BunchofHouzes, does it not say bring forward your arguments as to how this will violate her constitutional rights? Yet he says the decision is final, not preliminary. ???? Makes no sense to me.
IMO, they’ve already been violated, her child has been taken without any due process. No CPS eval, no nothin’. Taken on the uncontested word of one RSE and the DA.
So, the letter Bunch referred to that Kantor apparently did not read, was written after the changes Kantor made by hand to the order and then filed? If so, then that explains why he didn’t read it, he had already made his final decision. If the letter Kantor didn’t read had been submitted before that, then would it not be grounds for recusal if Kantor did not bother to read it? But, here’s the thing, it says at the bottom of that document he will allow briefs on the subject (RSE’s testimony and cross), so I’m assuming he will have to allow them?
Is there a page 2 to that order, or is that it? Usually, docs will say 1of1 or 1of2, etc. The changes he made sound like he was trying to get out of hearing briefs regarding the RSE testimony, like all of sudden he changed his mind……again.
This whole thing is confusing as heck to me.
No specific grounds for the belief need be alleged. Such motion shall be allowed unless the judge moved against, or the presiding judge for the judicial district, challenges the good faith of the affiant and sets forth the basis of such challenge. In the event of such challenge, a hearing shall be held before a disinterested judge. The burden of proof shall be on the challenging judge to establish that the motion was made in bad faith or for the purposes of delay.
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/14.260
I guess in Oregon, you don’t even need grounds to ask for a new judge, so long as your asking in good faith and not trying to delay your trial. Hmmmm?
Rose says:
January 4, 2014 at 11:45 am
vw
I saw it for the FIRST time on a link you provided to your site, posted here.
After the recent hearing I remembered it & on that occasion did not look back thru yr Blink posts for the link
but googled words like Woolfe Northwest Kyron. Right now I guess I’ll go back thru all your posts here in Dec after
the hearing in question to find the original link.
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Thanx, Rose, for clearing that up. Don’t need to go back. I put it up again. above. You might want to look at that “Opposition to the Motion for Emergency Hearing” from Engles. Kantor had that prior to that last hearing. Don’t know if Bunch and Houze did. That’s what (the Moulton depo) Engles was alluding to with the “war chest” metaphor.
okay, divorce finalized. custody still in offing. so why did the divorce get stayed for so long? why did Rees want it held back? since custody can be done separately, what does Rees have to do with the divorce anyway? unless just to keep T destitute and apply pressure.
also since the RO was withdrawn because K would not provide evidence, why did the protective order continue keeping T from Kiara? no evidence is no evidence. she should be having visitation.
A little off-topic, but a question keeps nagging at the back of my mind:
Doesn’t James get to see his little sister? If so, how have they managed the ruse that Terri doesn’t exist? If not, how are they justifying the complete severing of sibling ties?
@Rose, thanks for the heads-up on the comments on the previous thread.
Does not and has not since June 2010.
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” Marci says:
January 2, 2014 at 9:24 am
Yes I have been. I have been watching and commenting on this case since the very beginning and it just makes no sense to me at all when you look at the basics. First starting out would be, how could a loving mother stay away from her baby. Why is she pleading the 5th if she has nothing to hide?”
Blink’s reply:
“Because talking got her 3 seconds away from waiting this thing out behind bars. They did not believe her Marci- She did talk. Hours, and hours and hours worth.
I have said this many times. If I was faced with the slightest possibility that I would NEVER see my child again and my only defense to that was to not fight to do that for a brief period ( and it was brief people, we need to understand the law and it’s requirements for such actions, not just make assumptions) I would never ever risk it. I would follow my Atty advice as she has. The rest has really been out of their control once you had the civil suit and the DA requesting stays that never amounted to charges or an indictment and they never will against TMH in this matter-
I have been on the record that I find TMH behavior in some instances “unfortunate” and honestly nothing I would have in common with really, but I would say that about DY and KH.
I am also on the record saying that God forbid SZ strikes again, and he will, I am going to be one of the most unwelcome guests in Portland you can imagine…… Every child is being forsaken here. Kyron. Baby K. The next victim.”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/#comments
OT I still don’t know what addy resulted in purple. I have only 1.
Typo Rose, off by a vowel will do it.
B
@lizzy says: January 4, 2014 at 4:19 pm
Doesn’t James get to see his little sister?
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So exactly what kind of “father” is that (my quotes), who won’t even let the children see each other? I realized James is in the service, but he also gets leave.
IMO this is one really selfish parent who probably shouldn’t even be trusted to raise his little girl. Plus, IF he is being looked at for ‘pending criminal charges’ (unless that statement/typo referred to TMH and not KH), how could any court allow him to be near his child, especially when a perfectly capable (and innocent until proven otherwise) parent is here.
With the emotional & physical cutoffs of babyK with brother and grandparents, I just profer the opinion there is something very off and sick about the Horman family system, going back to the Neil & Kristi generation at a minimum.
I suspect it would be reflected in one of their own divorce histories, if their Court files were accessed or those who knew them when Kaine was young were interviewed. It is also reflected in Kristian’s conviction defense. It is surely alluded to in Christopher’s writings about his family of origin.
(nelmel hurls some freshly boiled linguini at the wall…)
Why do some of you think that the DA is attempting to “try and convict” TMH in a divorce/custody courtroom instead of via arrest, arraignment, charges, trial by jury in a criminal case?
How does doing so make the DA more effective as a public servant?
What does the DA personally and professionally gain from SEEMING to appear to so casually squash the “rights of the accused,” especially since no charges have ever been filed against anyone in Kyron’s case?
Is this entire situation really just an effort by the DA to circumvent the entire criminal justice system because there is no evidence against TMH and never was and no one wants to back off and admit that?
What IS the purpose served when a government agency — a District Attorney’s office — pretty much ignores law itself?
I corrected a post and the post it corrected is still in moderation, sorry for any confusion.
That poor little girl. What a family mystery to figure out.
lizzy says:
January 4, 2014 at 4:19 pm
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Great question lizzy.
Oh boy, Kaine can’t deny his way out of this one.
WTF is wrong with him? I wonder if James has tried?
I have no idea what this is about or how it relates to this case.
B
IF, we can believe what he says. KH disputes the allegations TH (why was their nothing about her taking her maiden name back, BTW, or did I miss that) made to RSE wrt abuse. So who is not telling the truth. My question is, is RSE just a challenged ESOL student acting on good faith, an agent of LE trying to cover his own ass, or a darker character having to do with the abduction, manipulating LE. IF it is a steroid connection with LE, RSE looks as though he could be a user. To me, he also looks (yes, judging a book by it’s cover) intelligent, not a simp. JMO.
T. Ruth says:
January 4, 2014 at 12:00 pm
Why they thought that, I don’t know, but RSE’s recent deposition confirms there seems to be a reason TY was fearful of KH taking away her daughter.