Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview

New York, NY-  For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case.  Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.

Horman courtesy of People

Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions,  and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.

In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning,  Horman  maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.

“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”

“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”

Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.

“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent.  I want her to tell me where Kyron is.  If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”-  Desiree Young

“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date.  To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page

Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney,  Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.

Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview.  Um, What?

Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.

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4,701 Comments

  1. Rose says:

    typo linkin says Jan 2013

  2. T. Ruth says:

    @Rose says:
    April 27, 2016 at 6:29 pm

    O/T

    http://snocoreporter.com/the-strange-case-of-tyler-christensen-and-other-missing-children/

    Nice looking and sounds like a nice boy. I hope Tyler Christensen is found safe somewhere. So many kids endangering themselves via social media these days, I hope he’s not yet another victim.

    The other missing boy Nathan Easley on Rose’s link above, same age and has a similar looking build and also allegedly left his home on his own accord, but whereabouts unknown. Hopefully these boys weren’t someone’s target.

    https://www.facebook.com/OperationWAFoundSafe/

    Is Nathan still missing? I don’t see either of these boys listed on the WSP missing children website:

    http://www.wsp.wa.gov/crime/mischild.php

  3. Rose says:

    @Blink, I guess my Qs for the Mengel side to include grandfather/wife, & gf’s twin his great aunt & uncle,
    would be IF they’d had any contact with since birth, their take on his vulnerabilitues & strengths, as well as his 3
    parents to the extent they interacted. We have seen Kaine abruptly cut frequent visitor grandparents out of his second child’s life. Either he or his mother/stepfa coukd’ve done same to paternal grandfather & kin. You’ve think CARD would’ve gone and interviewed them in person tho.

  4. Rose says:

    and, someone who’d abruptly cut off mother, grandparents, brother for one child
    imo had the psychological capability to do same in the life of child 1.

  5. Rose says:

    wrt Tyler C. A poster on reddit quoted a teen female friend as saying
    he was suicidal, unbeknownst to his sisters & family.
    well someone better tell someone who can escalate appropriately. God bless this boy and I pray for his safety.
    B

  6. Rose says:

    agreed on that Blink from both an educational AND a religious perspective.
    imo in the lives of our nation’s children, separation of church and State matters
    as much in rigorous education and rigorous theological training as it matters in any Muslim country.
    or Israel for that matter. Speaking as one with a BA in Theology from shall we say the
    now right wing.

    Wow. Did not know that Rose. I have a very dear friend with a BA in Theo, works in diplomatic arena.
    B

  7. Rose says:

    I looked back and gf did move to OR in late 2012.

  8. Rose says:

    ot @erose. “the former speaker of the house should at least get the same coverage as Sandusky. ”
    plenty going ape on nittanynet sandusky over Hastert & the Franklin Scandel whatever, imo all speculation & fantasy.
    But I would be shocked if his behavior changed in DC.

    The reason imo Sandusky & Hastert have had different outcomes, very, was he paid off his vics AND the vics’ attorneys did not have a deep pocket quasi employer to sue.
    Sandusky victims had PSU ready to pay pay pay and settle.
    Hastert had a county school district who woukd have dusclaimed his behavior as outside the scope of employment.

    Sure the SofL had run on Hastert, but these adult vics could file tort suits against him. Problem is he was worth way more in the closet paying out over time cooperatively. Imo this settlement on financial reporting violations burt the vics, not helped.

  9. erose says:

    That’s pretty damning actually.

    Rose says:
    April 28, 2016 at 1:41 pm

  10. Rose says:

    @erose. just now contemplating… what sort of an educated male professional, or even a college-educated economically lower middle-class schmuck,
    makes the Treasurer of his family foundation (much less one relating to child bereavement) his gym’s personal trainor whose Linkedin does not reveal any college education or mathematical background, but the Treasurer claims to be a “small packaged” “positive vibration.”?

  11. T. Ruth says:

    I just don’t know what the hell is going on in this case. It seems to me with the new light that has been shed, LE should be updating the public on this case. It’s just a little month or so shy from going on six years that this child was taken from a PUBLIC SCHOOL! With absolutely no accounting by anyone how indeed that could have possibly happened. WTH?

    Am I the only one who notices that no one, and I mean NO ONE, countered TMH’s recently made public allegation that Kyron was behaving in some sort of disturbing manner? Touching himself in ways that suggested something might be wrong?

    Blink says her focus is narrowing. Mine has never expanded much, I think it’s extremely important to rein in, not out.

    Much like watching a small stone skipped on a pond, the closest ripples are the ones worth looking over, again and perhaps again and perhaps again. Stagnant water does not progress this case, and the further one keeps looking out, the further one gets away from the actual skipping of the stone in the first place. Someone….someone knows just how and why this happened and LE has to go back to the first skip and start-the-heck over. So sad and so long and lacking, this case is.

    No, you are not the only one, and if one reviews the Dr. Phil episode DY expressly states that in the previous year Kyron was exhibiting behaviors of concern. I have also hear he blame herself that she did not do something about it. My assumption from that comment is she thought it relative to Kyron’s disappearance.
    B

  12. A Texas Grandfather says:

    There are at least three levels of home schooling that I have experienced. One level is a parent has a mentally slow child and does not desire a public school teaching them. Another level is where a parent or parents have the skills to teach their children beyond the levels found in public schools. The third is a mix of the other two. IMO the third type is the least successful.

    Religion is a personal matter for each of us. Children should be taught about it in a way where they are allowed to choose for themselves. Our country was NOT founded on secular values, but moral values and the necessity for each person to value the creator. Learning dogma of a religious group as the only way is counterproductive. Can teens get value from learning religious teachings? Absolutely, when they are presented in a proper manner that allows for reason and choices.

    Agreed and part of that discovery process is mingling with peers of various cultural and spiritual beliefs.
    B

  13. T. Ruth says:

    @Rose says:
    April 28, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    All smoke and mirrors. Lots of mirrors.

  14. erose says:

    Rose, She has been on the board since 2013. Is there always a replacement in the wings?

    Rose says:
    April 28, 2016 at 9:54 pm

  15. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Recalling a funny event when I was a teen regarding religions of the world and the various sects.

    Our Sunday school teacher was a fireman who became interested in the various religions and sects around the world. He began with our class of nine teens by having us explore the origins of our church and how it evolved over time. He did all the research himself. We found it very interesting. Then he challenged us to look at the other religions and to do some of the research ourselves. We enjoyed the experience and spoke about it to our peers at school. Soon, we had guys from other churches in the area asking if it was ok for them to join the class.

    We began with nine and after a year the class was over forty. It included youth from all the churches in the area. Everything went great until the Baptist minister found out that some of the boys from his church were skipping the Sunday school at his church to attend our class. He then contacted the parents and tried to forbid them attending because they were not concentrating on learning the Baptist dogma and values.

    The boys didn’t like the choice and on their own they worked out a plan to show up at the beginning of Sunday school and then slip out and run the five blocks to our church to attend the more interesting class. Youth understands truth and value when it is presented in a meaningful way. They will choose it over lesser values every time.

    lol
    B

  16. A Texas Grandfather says:

    T. Ruth

    I agree with your assessment of a lack of direction regarding Kyron’s unsolved disappearance.

    However, due to the direction that MCSO began the investigation by trying a dope sting or murder for hire sting against TMH that failed. They were never going to change their collective minds regarding the mistake and would continue till the end of time to hold their flawed position.

    This will never change until MCSO is removed as the lead agency on this case or by the people demanding a complete housecleaning of the leadership.

  17. T. Ruth says:

    A Texas Grandfather says:
    April 29, 2016 at 12:17 am

    (snipped)

    Religion is a personal matter for each of us. Children should be taught about it in a way where they are allowed to choose for themselves. Our country was NOT founded on secular values, but moral values and the necessity for each person to value the creator.

    ************

    Perfectly said and so true. Where is morality? Where has it gone and why?

  18. T. Ruth says:

    Totally off-topic, but this is a 35 year old cold case I spent some time looking at and am glad to see that they’re not giving up on. I find this science of pollen-testing they’re now using in this case fascinating. Hope it brings some resolution. Someone had to know who this poor girl was.

    (snipped, more @link)

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/04/29/buckskin-girl-new-evidence-may-hold-answer/83736230/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories

    A palynologist, of which there are precious few, can use pollen samples to determine a host of information, including where the person or piece of evidence has been, the time of year the crime occurred, and how long ago it was committed.

    With not a little trepidation, the Sheriff’s Office shipped the Buckskin Girl’s clothing to a top palynologist at a U.S. government lab in Houston in February.

    “You’re crossing your fingers that they arrive there, because that’s all the evidence we have,” Hickey recalled. The results came back about a week later.

    The analysis uncovered microscopic clues investigators couldn’t possibly have noticed. It suggests the Buckskin Girl was either from the Northeast, or spent a significant amount of time there, perhaps a year or longer. That’s because the pollen on her clothing comes from the northeastern dry-oak forest region, which includes areas in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island.

    Her clothing also contained high levels of soot from vehicle traffic, nearby industrial activity, or both. That suggests she spent significant time in a Northeastern urban area, or may have been a hitchhiker. The former is considered a strong possibility, Hickey explained, because even her undergarments were covered with soot particles.

    The pollen on her outer clothing, including her jeans and leather jacket, tells a different story. It comes from a more arid region in the Western U.S. or northern Mexico.

  19. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Thanks for the link about Buckskin girl T.Ruth

    It is cases like this that stretch the limits of forensic science. I hope that some of the data is useful in determining her true identity.

    Female hitchhikers are at risk of ending up like this one. There are women who ride with the truckers all across the country. Occasionally, one will take a ride that is their last. This one could have been kidnapped and then dumped where she was found.

    There was no detail of the type of soot particles found in the article. The lab probably knows a lot more detail than was given to the reporter.

  20. Rose says:

    No new Sun on this Cold Case, at least per his parents’ press releases.
    So the press that Ellen’s report aka criminal clearance would be released
    last week is maybe pending because some political “advisor” said don’t release piecemeal. The
    latest investigation thing was Staton’s alleged attempt to bribe Union Prez with a promotion.
    he said he said. And she’s still investigating…..

  21. T. Ruth says:

    O/T

    Hickey explained, because **even her undergarments** were covered with soot particles.

    The pollen on her outer clothing, including her jeans and leather jacket, tells a different story. It comes from a more arid region in the Western U.S. or northern Mexico.

    **************

    I know this off-topic, sorry, but not finding much else to talk about here on Kyron’s cse.

    ***************

    Does this not sound like this girl was relatively quickly in one place and then another. Does it also not sound like she was at least, at some point, before she washed her undergarments, exposed while in them to some sort of weird environment where perhaps she was naked, or at the very least running around her undies?

    When I first looked at this case, I thought Rodeo, or some other traveling outfit, carnivals, circus, whatever. Two slash marks on the left wrist pretty much sounds like attempted suicides and a right-handed girl.

    Augh….so sad, all these kids with nowhere to turn. I’m guessing she was a foster child who fell through some huge-ass cracks.

    I only posted this case here because I know some of you are from several of the areas that they have determined these guys are going up for trial

  22. T. Ruth says:

    O/T RE: My previous post regarding Buckskin girl

    Where in the heck did that last line come from? I didn’t type that. I typed

    ” I only posted this case here because I know some of you are from several of the areas that they have determined she had been.”

    Wow. weird. Where did “these guys are going up for trial” come from? Not me. Did my post get mixed up with another? Strange.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/04/29/buckskin-girl-new-evidence-may-hold-answer/83736230/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories

    No idea- not possible to mingle a post- I can only mod one at a time- if I made some sort of invisible error I appolly T.Ruth.

    B

  23. T. Ruth says:

    Thanks for responding Blink, I just found that so darn weird. It’s like someone was putting words in my mouth that made no sense. Weird as heck! (Anyone else out there know how that might have happened?)

    Are we getting closer to any new information Kyron? Will we be waiting until June 4 disappearance anniversary for any new news?
    ********

    @Rose

    Why are posting RNH’s obit link again? Something we missed, or something I did?

  24. thatkewlgirl says:

    It looks like Kyron’s vanishing may have had an impact on school safety in at least one school in Oregon! O’Hara Catholic School in Eugene has implemented a time lock system for doors, with a thumb print scanner at the front door for parents.

    Progress in safety for our kids… How long will it be for public schools to catch up? If only this was in place on June 4, 2010 at all schools. As a society, we value our store merchandise more than our children :( It’s past time to change our views and protect our most precious resource – the next generation!

    http://www.kezi.com/High-Tech_Solutions_to_School_Security.html

  25. A Texas Grandfather says:

    We can only hope that schools are waking up to the technology of the 21st century to make them selves safe. This particular school is spending $5,000 to get the thumb or finger print system.

    Without knowing how the front door area is constructed, I think they got the cart before the horse. A set of steel bullet proof doors on each side of a fortified foyer where the doors are equipped with multiple lock bolts that can be controlled from a camera console is the most safe solution. Depending on the price of steel and labor, this could be constructed, or most of it, for five to seven thousand dollars. Steel should be 1/4″ plate making it difficult for normal rounds or a small bomb to penetrate.

    Terrorists who want to attack schools will always try a building that does not pay attention to door security.

    I agree, our children are the future.

    The next thing is to get rid of the political correctness concept and return to teaching principles in place at the turn of the 20th century that taught reading using phonics, math that required memorizing multiplication tables to 16 times 16 or 20 times 20 in third grade and taught American History grade by grade adding new things and principles each year.

    History when taught properly, includes things that help create public virtue so we don’t have a bunch of out of control people trying to attack others at schools or any other public place.

  26. Rose says:

    @ATG, speaking of out of control people, and how public education differs now from our youth, I was amused to read an article this week in a NY mag, republished in HuffPost, by Andrew Sullivan on the Entertainer. Sullivan’s essay lengthily cited a 1951 book by Eric Hoffer The True Believer. A paperback required in my TX HS civics class which I loved & still have. Nothing like its reasoning is taught in public high schools today.

  27. Rose says:

    @TRuth. this particular obit leaves no gaps and is masterly at family relationships and interests.
    merely raises Qs or affirms past inferences.

    Q for example: why with 2 cancer ctrs is his other legacy endorsement S R Speech-Lang? (SR S-L is pioneering with supporting dyslexics.) Imo likely someone in the family utilized services at some point.

    All the Army stuff supports Topher’s tale of imo an egregious lack of support by father/stepmother casting out his ptsd self & family of young children to live in a car.

    “He enjoyed … computer gaming with family and friends on-line.”
    Really? Who were his gamers? Did his gamer group include family children?

    Remember his Masonic lodge fellow officer & friend had that provocative “model” photo studio next to the lodge.

    He was apparently “commanding.” When was the cancer diagnosed? Did the diagnosis play a role in 2009 in Kristian’s sexual acting out, or Kaine’s (in latter’s case, the alleged mistress).

  28. Rose says:

    If the bios aren’t driving the train for this moribund investigation,
    it has nowhere to go.

    Young is at “stay tuned.”

    Horman’s bell-curve shaped Foundation expenditures, revolving “officers”,
    and complete custody of his daughter appears to satisfy him..

    One was once hopeful of Staton’s retirement, but imo Reese is fromthe
    fire to frying pan wrt this case.

    Maybe this summer Young will have new posts re her vineyard
    reviews, and Horman will have a new housemate, but neither
    interest is relevant to this child’s abduction.

    I wonder if Terri thinks anyone in either biosphere, or
    any acquaintance, was jealous of her closeness to Kyron and/or her new baby girl?

  29. T. Ruth says:

    A month away from the 6th anniversary of Kyron’s disappearance and still so many unanswered questions. Sigh.

    O/T

    Happy Cinco de Mayo! Tamales for dinner here. My favorite Mexican food is Pork Carnitas, what’s yours? (And of course, a really good fresh Salsa or Pico de Gallo.)

  30. erose says:

    Hoping something is going on behind the scenes somewhere, whether with Blink’s interview, or Staton, or the bios. Bless Kyron.

  31. T. Ruth says:

    In 2009, Lavigne, who then went by Mesina, was convicted of attempted rape and sex abuse.

    “We plead not guilty. We request new court dates. And we do wish to be heard on release,” the public defender told the judge.

    (snipped)

    Court records also show police have arrested Lavigne more than a dozen times since that 2009 arrest. He was convicted of reckless burning and spent two weeks in jail in 2014. He also didn’t complete an anger management class, according to court records.

    http://kval.com/news/local/sex-offender-named-avril-lavigne-arrested-for-not-registering

    Well isn’t that convenient, a sex offender who has been arrested multiple times is allowed to change HIS name to whatever the heck he wants, whenever he wants. What was the version of the law that Judge Garrison spewed about the public’s best interest wouldn’t allow TMH to change her name? Where was the public’s best interest when this dude was allowed to change his name to some rock star’s name? (Whom he most likely would stalk if given the opportunity.) WTH?

    Take a look at how many mug shots there are of this dude over the YEARS, but yeah, buddy, go ahead change your name, the public has no interest. Aaarrgh!

  32. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    The books that children have in high school today are beautifully illustrated with drawings and photos. Unfortunately, few students have the opportunity to study with a teacher that has thorough knowledge of the subject.

    Most teach to the lowest level of the class so everyone can make a passing grade and the teacher will not be gigged for failures. So what happens, the smart ones get bored and do just enough to make a grade that pleases their parents.

    I remember a flute class of 7th graders where one of the girls asked how to play a C flat. I asked her if she could play B natural and she showed me the correct fingering. Then another child asked why that C flat was the same as B natural. I then realized that the children had never been taught the construction of a major or minor scale. We spent two days filling up the holes in their knowledge. My mother taught me that at age six.

    My friend Allen decided he was bored with retirement and approached one of the area high schools with the idea of teaching a chemistry class. The man has a Phd in electro-chemistry from Texas University and worked in the field for thirty-five years. Because he did not have the required hours in how to teach, they were not interested. This is how the schools miss opportunities to improve their level of scholarship and management.

  33. Rose says:

    Awww They skipped his pal Mary, too….
    “She notes that investigators failed to interview members of the sheriff’s command staff and others with direct knowledge of how he operates.”

    How come with Guisto they interviewed everybody & his dog, AND published it verbatim?
    How come no State grand jury to take sworn testimony?

  34. Rose says:

    Rosenblum’s DOJ is a joke imo.

    Ditto
    B

  35. Rose says:

    http://portlandtribune.com/documents/artdocs/00003545382467.pdf
    Compare to Guisto interviews.
    interviewed virtually no one–3 principals & a cowitness; then the recently re-promoted Mmmmmary…, & a Troutdale Councilor character witness. Pathetic. What would THIS OR DOJ have done with Guisto?

  36. Rose says:

    http://portlandtribune.com/documents/artdocs/00003545382467.pdf
    having read this, I see the Troutdale Councilmember was also a Staton target,
    out of pique. Clearly Wm Grey did a very weak investigation because that was
    expected. interviews of Staton needed to be under oath before aGrand Jury so
    he could criminally charged the old fashioned way: with perjury.

  37. Rose says:

    god bless kevin jones mcso who decided to follow Ferguson over to Kubic’s office & take notes too
    http://portlandtribune.com/documents/artdocs/00003545394022.pdf
    Staton should always be doubleteamed.
    Moore as Inspector shakes confidence.
    Gulberg’s finally up & out of River Patrol.
    Gates? Who’s surprised?
    Reiser’s finally paid his dues & kissed whatever sufficiently.

    MCSO reminds me of the Entertainor’s Reality Show.

  38. Rose says:

    btw I figured with her gofundme getting $5/ticket on the blue collar drag race thing, if Soldier gets 200 tickets sold, Young nets $100 for her next search or garden implement. I got $250 last weekend in a non-garage (don’t have one) sale. I avariously want more more (empty my lily pad), but when it rains, it pours.
    I’m trying to remember past pta $ raisers. Not big takes really are car washes. I still recommend a sit down dinner honoring DY’s work for her son, catered on the cheap by a church in a public hall with a silent auction with business donations.

  39. Ode says:

    Rose,
    I am clearing my lily pad too. Getting ready for my first garage sale. I bet the soldiers could get together and find plenty of things to sell at one.

  40. Rose says:

    How can it be that Horman & Young are so at enmity they cannot partner over their genetic child’s abduction/probable demise?

    If I were Mom, rather than jump on Kaine’s “Terri did it wagon” which was in his financial, custody, & $ interests, I’d be allying with Terri and sniffing himout– esp if he’d refused residential custody alternatives flatly while she’d supported me. Either she’s a bear of very little brain, or mcso lied to her flatly. I prefer the latter; but, why is she stuck?

    when one saw the KH nonprofit disbusrsed c $31000 in one year (was it 2012), one can see dissention would be reasonable from mother who was not on his nonprofit Board so didnt need to fly down to Calif say for mtgs.
    it’s much later, & mcso is beyond discredited.

  41. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    Your concept of fund raising at the sit down dinner and silent auction is exactly how the alumni association at the University of Texas raises money. Our community band has been a part of the entertainment at those events.

    The band played a 2hr gig last evening for the National Day of Prayer hosted by the First Baptist Church at Marble Falls. We always relish such an opportunity. Attendance was about 350. Most people in attendance heard a quality band for the first time. We finished the program with Sousa’s Stars and Stripes Forever,complete with piccolo solo, and Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the USA with a fanfare ending requiring triple tonguing for the brass.

    The entire justice system in Oregon needs to be cleaned up. They were never going to take the steps to do a thorough investigation of MCSO or Multnomah County DA’s office. What they did was produce a “Dog and Pony Show” to placate the people. Another shameful act by those elected to work for the people.

  42. erose says:

    Remember the Skyline Elementary School silent auction? They raised lots of $, IIRC, so why hasn’t someone stepped up and organized an event for Kyron?

    Rose says:
    May 6, 2016 at 8:19 pm
    snip>
    I still recommend a sit down dinner honoring DY’s work for her son, catered on the cheap by a church in a public hall with a silent auction with business donations.

  43. TMH says:

    Happy Mother’s Day to new mothers, adoptive mothers, stepmothers, grandmothers and all those who take on the role when needed.

    Godspeed,

    Terri

    And to you Terri. Very kind sentiment on what I know is not the easiest of days for you.
    B

  44. Rose says:

    off the top of my head erose,
    1) because $woukd go to Kaine, & he was uninvolved in school?
    Desiree also uninvolved in school.
    2) because Kyron was likely not in the very “popular group?
    3) becauseStepmother who was involved in school is “guilty”
    in the pta’s mind per mcso, so there’s no perp to find?
    4) because Kaine’s mistress was on pta exec, and if such a
    fundraiser were appropriate they’dexpect the Chief of Volunteers
    to take the lead. And she had her own fundraising fish to fry.
    5) becauseKaine’s foundation is about “awareness,” whatever that is.

  45. Rose says:

    OT I see Manifest Destiny visited Oregon last night.
    I love E Erikson, the founder of RedState’s, adjectives.

  46. Rose says:

    Iirc the State Criminal Div, that cleared the Sheriff, was said last fall to have 2 investigators, both involved in
    the racial profiling case, & one a former Klamath Falls police officer:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/04/black_lives_matter_rap_group_l.html

    What Ferguson & Jones should have done was go quietly to the FBI & Federal DOJ and participate in a corruption sting with wires where something of value (a promotion) actually changed hands. I think a sting now would have to
    involve someone Staton trusts, but Lindstrand & Gates have been promoted as high as one can go.

  47. Rose says:

    Mike Loughary who signed off of Wm J Gray’s investigation was hired directly from a rural police dept to be Asst Chief of the OR DOJ criminal division. no law degree. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-loughary-26bb3056

    while she moved the crim div chief to
    a civil division in January, his no. 2 Loughary, the actual supervisor of those off the reservation investigators, suffered no consequences apparently.

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/13/public-enemy-logo-prompts-racial-profiling-scandal/?page=all

    The Crim Div investigator in the use of social media to profile political opinions he disagreed with (what Staton did) is likely the former klamath falls officer because his attorney is B Gallagher who also represented the deputies union in the Klamath Falls Sklar case.
    http://www.opb.org/news/article/klamath-county-sheriff-deputies

    “The report notes that the searches violateddepartment policy because they were “not tied to a criminal investigation and there were no reasonable grounds to believe there was an existing threat in the Salem area at the time he conducted his search.”

    “Attorney Becky Gallagher, who is representing the investigator, declined to comment on the report.”
    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/13/public-enemy-logo-prompts-racial-profiling-scandal/?page=all
    —–
    and Kirby, whom the off reservation investigators reported to, & was initimately involved in the Johnson scandel, remains Special Agent in Charge:
    https://dasapp.oregon.gov/statephonebook/display.asp?agency=13700&division=00040&section=00005

    Wondering where Ellen recruited this Special Agent in Charge of her criminal division, one sees he was a seasoned sheriff dept administrator in clackamus & washington counties: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-kirby-932bba1b
    ” Served as the sheriff’s personal representative and spokesperson”
    one of his first acts with the State appears to have been ordering up digital social media surveillance software.

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