Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
New York, NY- For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case. Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.
Horman courtesy of People
Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions, and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.
In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning, Horman maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.
“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”
“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”
Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.
“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent. I want her to tell me where Kyron is. If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”- Desiree Young
“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date. To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page
Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney, Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.
Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview. Um, What?
Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.
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Rose says:
May 13, 2016 at 10:00 pm
the car thing is $10 a ticket, 5 of that to Gofundme.
Might buy one tank of gas RT to Portland.
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I normally try to restrain comments on the crazy cauldron, but an insider and self-proclaimed former “follower” sent me a pic of SG Mom’s Day gift- a Seattle Seahawks jersey with Kyron’s name on the back and the number 4- which in her words symbolizes June 4th, 2010- The day he was definitely kidnapped
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At least her faithful followers will be able to spot her around town (and pay homage) when she is wearing her special jersey. I wonder if Mr. Stacey also had one made for himself.
@TRuth. Blink’s original (and present) profile posited he had the ability to go to ground quickly.
I was interested in Tenn how many inaccessible abandoned cabins & barns existed in rough terrain.
In Oregon, one thinks of long abandoned former logging areas with structures. This Case needed men on
atvs. mcso had just rec’d 4 atvs in 2010, Herron in charge. The problem with Herron’s atvs and SAR is any fool abductor would’ve ensured his isolated location was just outside mukt cty boundaries, and mcso coukd run around on atvs all it wanted and not bother him. atvs:
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs011/1102356663680/archive/1103533510925.html
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Article notes Luna’s informal mcso power and
invulnerability due to her national LE stature & leadership.
T. Ruth says:
May 11, 2016 at 1:07 pm
(snipped)
The mother hopes the lawsuit prompts Oregon to tighten its watch on convicted sex offenders or at least search beyond its borders for ones who ignore registration requirements.
In Washington, for instance, police typically enter a warrant for failure to register as a sex offender into a national database.
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@T.Ruth – It’s NOT funny, but I laughed when I read the first paragraph above. Here’s why –
I have been following a male sex offender’s whereabouts for several years. I do a google search for him every so often and he turns up in some newspaper or court report being picked up for I.D. theft or small amounts of meth, etc. He is supposed to be on probation in Oregon, but I’ve found him in Texas, Iowa, Kansas, on the east coast, etc., probably every 2 or 3 months. He is always released within a short time because he sticks to minor offenses in different states so his record never appears to add up. He’s about 35 and has been doing this for many years.
Washington County, Oregon, has had a warrant out for probation violation and “failure to register” for several years. They pictured him on their “most wanted for the month” list online last year . Two of us sent in different tips to where he was while he was in jail out of state. Later, we contacted Washington County by phone about another location where he had been arrested. We always gave very complete information – lots of details and verification. Nothing happened.
He has used various street addresses in different states. I think it was in Kansas where he gave his street address the same as the Washington County Corrections Facility, but of course Kansas didn’t know that is what was located there. So we finally called his last out of state (jail) location and told THEM he had warrants out in Oregon. That sheriff was very nice and very sorry, but he said if Oregon chooses not to officially notify them to hold him and Oregon does not come and get him, he’s free to go when the local court says.
Unfortunately, in his late teens, early twenties he hung out with underage troubled girls and has at least 4 children or maybe as many as 8 children (different moms) with whom he has never had a relationship. I hope he has not continued that, but it is reason enough for me to want him “collected”.
http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20981907_21006347,00.html
in this case the abductor took his victim just over the County line.
(imo a “search” defense.) So as to Skyline, where are the isolated areas in Clackamus &
Washington Counties, or So Washington, say in a 40 mi radius?
Because it was in MCSO jurisdiction.
B
having googled Oregon Clackamus County one gets an image which makes 2 egress riutes perfectly clear:
SE thru Gresham on 26 to Mt Hood area, or 84 E towards WA’s Gifford Oinchot forest for which the turnoff is c N Bonneville. The latter allows speedier, more private egress.
which brings me to
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonneville_Dam
is only 40 mi E of Portland.
Again, an anomaly was Bonneville’s role in the school at the time, from which any number of company employees could have visited on site for diverse roles. And Bonneville likely owns much property along the Gorge, and abandoned structures. Imo a 40 mi radius seach in forested mt hood and gifford pinchot areas off 26 and 84 checking abandoned structures made a lot more sense than mcso playing with its OT and toys. This shoukd’ve been an OSP lead, Day 2.
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I am proud of our individual and collective intellectual research and analysis contribution, which is considerable.
A Super-Sized DITTO to that Rose.
B
So, fodder for ATG
what access do different strata of Bonneville employees and contractors have to
the “dams” and associated co.-owned land, say upriver from
dam(s)? a wee body going thru that dam would be unrecoverable.
someone show me a single mcso investigator
who had an outside-County abductor focus ever?
Blink why send you a pic of the Mothers Day Gift But you did say former follower.
I grow very suspious of people who claim over and over a murder happened For 6 yrs like they saw it them
Selves with their own eyes
The individual is a mental health professional that is actually following elements of Kyron’s case as part of a research endeavor ( all I am permitted to say). It is right to be suspicious of anyone in any scenario claiming something as fact v opinion.
B
@Rose I just wonder are a lot of students transgender or just sort of going with the idea as a fad
At any rate the 3rd option has worked as well as any answer can IMO. As far as shower rooms and locker room
I haven’t heard any thing about how that is being handled
After 8yrs it seems the President is getting busy pushing unpopular things I am not pleased he is letting a bunch
Of drug people out of prison
I should say O/T. But there are still a lot of little kids out there Who could go missing And more heart break
For families
@ATG
It is not just Texas And I do agree I can’t understand why the President is pushing unpopular ideas when he hasn’t
A lot of his term left
Have other past Presidents done this? Last day stuff
It seems like if he wants to make a great exit he could pass a solution to something to help everyone
Do I feel there was a murder. I feel it is one possibility out of others
A accident on school property
A person wanting to move him out of his home for their own reasons
Lots of things could have happened to the little child
I wish we knew.
Malty says:
May 13, 2016 at 7:15 pm
“Here we got 3rd choice single locked bathrooms to solve the problem”
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Yep, and why not anyway? Why can’t, for instance, a handicapped restroom also be designated a transgender. I don’t want to get into the arguments over whether there are really trans-gender children or not, or whether it’s simply a case of letting their hormones finally develop, it’s not my forte’. But, I can tell you I’ve met plenty of people during my life who seemed teetering on that border, and seemed to be having difficulty in that regard. We are, factually, born the same; male and female parts are within us all, so who are we to determine what is correct in regard to any other person may feel inside themselves and within their own brain?
Should there be a law passed based upon what President Obama just dictated? No. Should their be private bathrooms for everyone, everywhere? Yes. Good grief why are bathrooms considered community places in the first place? They should not be. Things would be much more simple if we just employed the simplicity of a port-a-potty: enter, lock door, do one’s thing, sanitize hands, exit……next. Okay, no more *soap* box for me.
Here is what I know-
UNFORTUNATELY, criminals CAN AND WILL exploit an ability to use a rule to victimize. This has already happened. Public restrooms can and will be used as an opportunity by deviants to victimize- this is fact. I do not have a position on the whole tranny thing because I have no expertise in whether or not these folks are inclined to victimize others in a public restroom and beyond that I find it tasteless that Target makes this stand when they refuse to allow the Salvation Army in front of their stores during Christmas for donations. For me, as a parent, I never, ever allowed my kids to use the restroom without me or alone. That should be standard SOP- our jobs are to protect our kids from the seen, unforeseen and unseen as best we can and there are no more vulnerable victims than children. This should be the practice of every parent and it pains me to see so many times that it is not.
B
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/05/its_time_for_sheriff_staton_to.html
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Looking at the map as a nonprofessional, it’s beyond me why this Sheriff from Gresham focused the searches in West County rather than East and beyond, with 2 big wilderness areas with uninhabited structures plentiful.
84 would be a quick getaway. That way this organized skillful perpetrator could not only cross a county line but a State line 40 miles away & avoid not only mcso SAR but the Oregon State Police. Should’ve run down anyone associated with Skyline who grew up or once lived near these areas.
@ Blink wrt
“as to Skyline, where are the isolated areas in Clackamus &
Washington Counties, or So Washington, say in a 40 mi radius?
Because it was in MCSO jurisdiction.
B”
What I was asking locals was where ***outside*** the County line nearby would an organized smart abductir go to ground to evade being the focus of mcso SAR, or even the OSP? Because abductor would count on mcso having jurisdiction.
I answered my own Q from an outsider’s pov. I would go out 84 forty mi away to WA State’s Gifford Pinchot wildnerness, or the Gorge/Dam courseway and Bonneville property if I had access, or out 26 to that forest. I woukd NOT stay in west side of Mult Cty with that much forest just east of the County.
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These contemplations returned me to think of Kristian’s case defense, pending since 2009, and wondering where Melvin & Neil hiked back country at younger ages that led to their books, ie Tokens of Trust, set in forests. I read last nite Neil centered one story on a young boy character named Quinlan. That is beyond creepy given they had no relationship really.
@ Blink “UNFORTUNATELY, criminals CAN AND WILL exploit an ability to use a rule to victimize…”
Just like in Chicago, an 8 year old went to a Restaurant restroom and was choked unconscious by a stranger, with her mother running in to save her, and other patrons and staff holding the perp… This threat has nothing to do with gender identity issues – it has to do with Rape Mentality. People need to realize there is a difference, and innocent people are being wrongly persecuted for the criminal urges of sexual deviants, IMO.
http://www.kktv.com/content/news/Police-Man-chokes-girl-8-in-Chicago-bathroom-379573031.html
OT. @mbs. I read PPS had solved the problem with
devoted facilities, so I saw no need to comment. But just like Title IX,
schools receiving fed funds cannot discriminate wrt
facilities provided based on sex (or color like the old separate but
equal bathrooms); and we know issues of equal protection wrt race & sex have “heightened
scrutiny” judicially.
I think any Pres shoukd’ve waited for a
precedent-forming adjudication by a person subject to discrimination.
The virtue of Roe was it was adjudicated after consensus was reached in the country by and large.
That said, it’s not enough to meet the heightened scrutiny judicially for a person
to “identify” as a gender. The person would have to have met some medical process
criteria on interventions such that say a trans surgeon could attest to a biological gender change.
And, even then imo public facilities meet their burden if they’ve made reasonable accommodative optiions
available to all students equally.
Most likely there is a bad case winding its way thru the Fed system that
didn’t meet the objective sex test and/or equal facilities had been afforded (ie the person
merely identified but had not medically changed, and the school had made “trans” bathrooms available
to all students.
Imo some fool in DOJ wanted to avert a bad precedent in this Court.
I regret Obama doing this just before an election; were I Hilary, I’d be giving him hell.
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Having had a grandfather in a TX insane asylum (kicked in head by a mule on the farm) dying there of TB, and having volunteered at Terrell, I think consigning Trans to such places is abominable, and anyway doesnt meet a DSM diagnostic category for involunary comfinement. I remember the 2 Hispanics the only in my whole HS who most in town would’ve driven out if they could. I remember my HS class and band president who when he got out of his church of christ college moved to San Francisco to live openly as gay, as one coukd not do thrn in TX. Change will come to hearts and minds.
@Rose
Also to the east is the town of Rhododendron, where DAD once lived. And that wacky poster who keeps saying he saw Kyron with another child at some location (can’t remember where now) but it was east, near Hood River, iirc. I think MCSO was mainly searching West because they believed there were Terri white pick-up truck sightings at those locations. Sauvie Island, and logging roads searches I think were most likely based on different white F250/150 truck sightings.
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Blink, I agree children should never be left alone to go to a public bathroom, or public school bathroom for that matter. I’m just saying multiple stalls are probably an unnecessary monetary convenience, and a couple of locking generic small porta-potty sized individual bathrooms could solve the transgender problem, if there even is one.
We were made aware from TMH’s FB post that Kyron was in the bathroom one day, and she made it sound like he went alone and announced as ge wasn’t there when she snapped the photo. Do we know yet if that happened frequently? Do we know what Skyline’s bathroom policy was? Hall pass? Hall monitors? Or are those types of things a thing of the past?
not ge, “he”. sorry.
@Malty says:
May 13, 2016 at 7:31 pm
Me too!
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Blink, does TMH know why LE was back at that school hanging out behind bushes, the first few days? Or was not just some rumor? Surely they didn’t think Kyron’s abductor would be back for another child, and we know they weren’t looking for Terri; they knew where she was. If ture, then who were they monitoring? What if anything did they tell the family about their actions in that regard?
It was definitely not a rumor- I learned that from an LE source, but first from actual parents of students. Of course very interesting because TMH was never alone so it begs the question- who were they concerned about?
B
@MockingbirdSings says:
May 14, 2016 at 4:48 pm
Good grief, it’s like no one takes these creeps seriously. No wonder they sometimes literally get away with murder. Unbelievable.
I can tell I’m tired today, didn’t sleep well. I meant to say his being in the bathroom at school that day seemed to be “unannounced”, not announced. Sorry.
Malty says:
May 13, 2016 at 7:31 pm
@Truth I agree I think Kyron was not taken far and it is one reason I get upset about them not spending more time at Skyline And with staff then everyone else connected to that school
I still feel the school is the key to this case
Kyron was there Kyron went missing from there
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I think Kyron was probably would have been taken to Washington. The Washington state line was very close to the Skyline area and involving another state with a different states jurisdiction could cause a lot of confusion as to who was on the case. To this day I don’t think there have been a lot of searches for Kyron in southwest Washington which is every bit as heavily wooded with dense underbrush as northwest Oregon. I think if the FBI had led the case then more searches would have been done in Washington. I believe the Sauvie Island suspicions (phone pings or whatever) were a red herring and wasted LE’s time and resources.
Rose
In answer to your question in post 7 on this page. I do not know about Bonneville Dam. However, in 1999 I visited all the dams on the Columbia river on the East side of the state. Not one had any type of protection in the way of fencing. I was able to drive across the roadway on top of Grand Coulee from Electric City and then drive down an access road to the work area behind the dam. No one was around in that area or were there people on the shores of the lake above. Later that evening we visited Big Chief. There was a similar situation.
People can survive passing through a flood gate that is open as some have. I can remember a man and his girlfriend loosing power in their boat after getting too close in their boat on Lake Travis near Austin. Both had minor injuries. If a body were to be sucked into the power station turbines they would not survive. Those turbines have vanes on them much like a sausage grinder. Depending on how large the particular turbine and the clearance to the walls of the containment housing is another factor in how much damage would be done.
MBS
I am sorry you took my statement so personally about what would have happened in the 1930′s to a child who claimed to be a girl when in fact he was a boy.
People were far less tolerant then than today. Deviant behaviors were handled far differently because of the mores of the times.
I can remember an event where a boy decided to let his hair grow long like the girls. The boys taunted him and called him a girl. Finally several caught him on the way home after school one day and cut off all his hair down to the GI length.
Today these deviant types of people need to be removed from the general public schools and treated for a form of insanity in a special school.
Business establishments are free to build whatever type of public restrooms are required to meet the local building codes. Most restroom facilities in the public area are gender specific with an area that is specifically built for the handicapped in wheel chairs.
Restrooms in schools are built to accommodate a large number of people at one time. Sometimes there are facilities for the handicapped and sometimes not. The expense for building individual locking restroom facilities is two to three times that of an open facility with just stalls.
This whole issue of allowing men or women or men who dress like women into a women’s facility is total insanity. In Chicago there is already a case where a man entered a women’s restroom and attacked an eight year old child. The mother was in the rest room and she held off the pervert while calling for help. Thinking about the trauma to that child makes me see red.
Why should the federal government be mandating the types of restrooms and who should use them? There is nothing in the constitution that allows them to do that. This whole issue is an invitation to all the perverts to have a field day at the expense of our children and females of all ages. This is not tolerance, it is just an attempt by the current pervert occupying the white house to force his thinking and mores on all the people.
Either we are a moral people or we become like the tribes in bush of Africa and South America.
All good my dear MBS
B
http://www.oregonhikers.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2582
I wonder if DAD named his dog after Huckleberry Mountain? Rose has me thinking about the East side again. The staring at goats dude also said he believed Kyron would be found east of the school. Not that it matters one way or another. Oregon is so lush and beautiful.
I recall seeing a guitar in the Horman house, and I believe Kaine played it. Did Kyron? Was he learning the guitar from his dad? I’m just curious if he liked it, because if he’s out there somewhere maybe as a new teenager he would be playing the guitar if he had one. Just a thought.
T. Ruth
Your port-a-poties are much more fancy than those I have used. Most are chemical with no water present and if the deodorant gets used up before service time, the stench is powerful.
Rose
In regard to your thinking about an escape route for an abductor at skyline, your choices of how one could escape the jurisdiction of MCSO are good. There is one thing to remember and that is no one reported Kyron missing until the school bus runs in the afternoon. This leaves many hours for an abductor to travel North to Washington state, or South to California or East to Idaho or even to Canada.
The Bonneville dam area is a possibility as well as some of the forested areas near Skyline. I looked on Google Earth at the forest around the school when the case was first posted by Blink. There are many areas where the only roads are fire roads. Some of the underbrush was very heavy with tree limbs almost at ground level.
Searching heavy forest is difficult. Underbrush is available to conceal a body. A person experienced in traveling through a forest knows how to use it for concealment.
@Rose
Just a feeling It is that Forest Park that bothers me I know the roads were searched but that place is big
Wooded A place they have homeless problems and close to Skyline
It seems very creepy.
@TRuth some where there is a pic of James and those neighbors boys and a guitar I think James had the guitar
Seems there are may be two pics of James and a guitar taken at different locations My mind is forgetting a lot
The pic with those neighbors boys was kind of a surprise to me so I remember it. May be some one knows where that pic is
@ATG. Nothing so interesting as thinking I was a boy ever happened to me but I do believe it has to a few others
How ever I wonder if not all cases are the real situation. And opens the doors to crimes against minors
Blink has the right idea stay with your child At school there may have to be a monitor posted but really I agree the President is really pushing And the states should say no people should say no. What are the The government bldgs doing in DC ? Does he use any bathroom he wants I doubt it
I have always thought of that bathroom at Skyline that Kyron used as a dangerous place. It has been a long time since I saw that pic of it but It had a creepy look
Stall doors coming down near the floor Old look They should have up graded it And added lots of mirrors
IMO and lighting
Blink this mental health person has a big undertaking with this case There seems to be no end to strange behavior
In every direction And from the very first day
@cd says:
May 14, 2016 at 4:41 pm
LOL Nutty isn’t it? Why not put the boy’s birth date on the shirt if they want people to remember him, which would also remind people to be looking for a kid almost 14 years old, not 7. Weird.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/02/man_faces_54_sex_crimes_involv.html
@ATG. I am thinking like the TN Trent case.
Look to areas with known abandoned cabins & structures.
That’s notvCornelius Pass, close to Skyline, West side. etc.
That’s historic (way back) logging areas, Gifford Linchot, etc.
One looks not just to forest & terrain but to structures present.
Like the TN Uncle, someone knows those abandoned structure areas,
and selected a hidey spot imo.
@ATG wrt “Either we are a moral people or we become like the tribes in bush of Africa and South America.”
Not gonna go there. Because you have my warmest respect & liking. However, Pointing out that many remote tribes of So America (say Elizaeth Elliott’s spiritual progeny),& of African bushmen, say in Cameroon theologian Carl FH Henry’s wife Helga’s progeny, are far more Christian than most of our US, even the Cruz types..
@Malty. Whether Forest Park or not, Blink said, and it rings right in the ear as Tony Young said,
this guy is highly organized ; so imo that rules out the homeless and those with no financial resources.
@ATG.
wrt “There is one thing to remember and that is no one reported Kyron missing until the school bus runs in the afternoon”
You are correct. However that failure to record as absent and call the home was happenstance that an ORGANIZED abductor would not have taken for granted or even anticipated.
Imo an organized plan/execution man woukd’ve figured on a roll call at 10;
and a phone call to the home via the office by noon
That gave the abductorb a 2 hr window to drive to the hidey/disposition hole.
@ CD. It has been ages since I have read a thing about mr Soldiers or the little soldiers. But I don’t go around that place very often Some thing the soldier said about a separation. Made me think just maybe she was talking about herself Not. Kaine that and the new small house I think was 2 bd 1bath if I remember right.
Not really a family home
None of it matters really But I do find her Mothers Day gift sick if the number 4 has that meaning
@Rose
You misunderstood me
I simply meant the homeless seem to find places to hide unseen in that Forest park. I don’t think the homeless
Are to blame just have the ability to find shelter in places undetected from eyes You were talking hiding places I thought
Empty foreclosed homes are being took over by people now and becoming a big problem to the sellers or buyers
Some one just moves in and no one knows they are there. Doing damage to the place and hard to get removed
Lots of strange things go on here
Whenever I think of Desiree’s surrogate FB site,
versus the striving here to find Kyron and hus abductor,
a version of an old refrain comes to mind…” You take the low road, and
we’ll take the high road, and we’ll get to … before ye…”
If Soldier is so erroneously lathered up Blink & Co are “Terri supporters”
now, god help the universe after Blink’s interview is published. I am sure
it will be evenhanded and dispassionate but read as tho satan wrote it
by Soldier, who even now confabulates Terri is against “4″
(making her 4 fantastical, special, magical) even tho
only Blink opined on its lunacy.
It is Desiree’s consistant failure over 5 years to disavow this lunacy,
but rather use it to raise $, that I find most concerning about her.
I apologise, Malty. Many locals here have suggested back to start Forest Park as a target site, and I now get you pointed out there are associated vacant structures in F Park to those in the know. FWIW I did not think you were suggesting a homeless person. I was just generally trying to refer back to Blink’s profile. I am intrigued by how close wilderness with abandoned structures is out both 84 and 26 and that some of that is likely under a big ownership footprint of Bonnemville along the waterway.
Rose says:
May 15, 2016 at 9:41 pm
@Malty. Whether Forest Park or not, Blink said, and it rings right in the ear as Tony Young said,
this guy is highly organized ; so imo that rules out the homeless and those with no financial resources.
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TY said that? When, I don’t recall? He siad “this guy”?
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FWIW, I still think the person who abducted Kyron was very familiar with that school. Just like in Stacey’s Wilmoth’s abduction years earlier, I think that person was also familiar with the school from which she was abducted in Gresham. In that case, I’d be leaning toward someone who lived very near the school, mabye previously worked there, could be even someone who had their own children in that school. Look at the whacko who held those three girls for so many years in Cleveland, I think at least two of them were friends of his daughter at one point. I think the same thing happened with Stacey, only in her case, she didn’t know the man who took her, but I think he had most likely followed her at some point near that school or watched her going to school everyday. And being that she was found, not that far away (still alive thank God), I think he absolutely lived in the area. To this day, with the great descriptions she was able to give of not only him and his car, but his garage, motorcycle and the colors of his house and the smells of the trees nearby, I have a difficult time, understanding how LE let that one get away. I don’t think that area was that populated at the time, but not sure. Every house in the area should have been checked out, and every neighbor should have been given the descriptions instead of it just being in *one* newspaper’s article. (I only found it in one anyway) All that info should have been in EVERY newspaper and posted on every pole, in every corner barber shop, grocery store, whatever.) Never did see a composite drawing with those articles, either, why not? Bugs me.
In Kyron’s case, I think the suspect list is a much narrower one. Knew the school and its lax operation. And in light of what TMH provided us with in regard to Kyron’s concerning behavior, he also knew Kyron. (i.e., Kyron was his target, not random, that is not to say that Kyron necessarily knew his abductor, but that someone who knew Kyron, knows the abductor.) JMHO, based on what little we know, which ain’t squat, but that’s where my head is on this case, until we know more. Which may be never.
I agree the individual had prior knowledge of the layout of the school and in my view, knowledge of the set up for that day- although he would not have needed to – this COULD have been random as to victim.
B
@TRuth. Tony Young said (about Terri) “does it hit your ear and sound right?”
So, I was using what I call the Tony LE Test under which any homeless person
does not sound right. It hits my ear right this was a planful, organized mind.
Appreciate your indirectly pointing out my unclarity.
Rose
I agree about the old restroom structures. The grammar school I attended was built in 1923. The restroom stalls did not have doors,the lighting was two 100 watt bulbs mounted in the ceiling and ventilation was transom style windows. No air conditioning with heat in the winter from one steam radiator. That definitely was not a place to “hang out”.
Skyline was first built in 1937 with additional structures added later. If the restrooms were not updated, they remained as originally built.
IMO Kyron’s abductor probably had a place where he could get to quickly. It could be a home or a workshop within five miles of the school. There are a lot of large homes and smaller structures within a five mile circle. I doubt any effort was made to do a thorough search of each of those buildings. If Kyron is deceased, the dump site could be anywhere.
ATG said:
It could be a home or a workshop within five miles of the school.
I fervently believe this will link to suspect zero.
B
I am interested in your view he had knowledge of the set up for that day.
That makes sense.
Goes back to a current or former PPS employee or contractor/subcontractor
or donor, or auxiliary aide of some kind.
I don’t think mcso govt employees (and union members) were best suited to
investigate a peer govt entity’s human resource banks, public or private.
AS I have been saying for many years- this case reminds me very much of Ramsey in many areas.
Ultimately it is going to be way more simple than anyone imagined- the offender was previously in the home, period. In Kyron’s case, I believe it will be learned ( if not already) the offender was very familiar with the layout of the school in general, if not fluent. Unfortunately this was absolutely available online, however, it would not indicate what entrance and egress would be ADDITIONALLY accessible the day of the open house. Could he have taken a chance in some aspects and got lucky? Yes. Reminder to all- this offender had absolutely no reason to believe Kyron’s disappearance would not be noted immediately- or that his Mom (TMH- as he called her) would not get an email response to her question about picking up Kyron’s project as well, signaling he was NOT at a Dr. appt.
On the investigation probability of a Govt peer- no way to get around that. I do fault MCSO for not handing this case over to the FBI when they learned of suspect zero and their SAR expertise was exhausted.
B
T. Ruth
Your last paragraph in your post at 1:35 above is exactly the thinking about the abductor that I have.
However, the following is also a possibility. It was the end of the school year. The turnover of personnel at that school was rather high. If I remember correctly, one of the teachers took a position at a school in New Mexico and others left for other schools out of state. One of those with a job already secured out of the area could have simply kidnapped Kyron and held him somewhere not far away until the end of school and then moved him with them out of state. It doesn’t acutally have to be a teacher. It could be any person who normally worked the school on a regular basis.
The total ineptness of MCSO and the protective mode of PPS is the prime reason that this case is in the mode we find it today. I also think it is related to Kaine’s drug activities that also involved some officers of MCSO.
@ T.Ruth or Blink-
Blink, does TMH know why LE was back at that school hanging out behind bushes, the first few days? Or was not just some rumor? Surely they didn’t think Kyron’s abductor would be back for another child, and we know they weren’t looking for Terri; they knew where she was. If ture, then who were they monitoring? What if anything did they tell the family about their actions in that regard?
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I don’t remember this. What do you mean hanging out in the bushes? Like watching the school to see if the perp returned (which my understanding can be common in these situations?)
Yes Meg. Skyline was under LE surveillance.
B