Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview

New York, NY-  For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case.  Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.

Horman courtesy of People

Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions,  and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.

In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning,  Horman  maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.

“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”

“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”

Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.

“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent.  I want her to tell me where Kyron is.  If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”-  Desiree Young

“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date.  To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page

Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney,  Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.

Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview.  Um, What?

Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.

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4,701 Comments

  1. T. Ruth says:

    O/T
    Brandon Wade, creator of the site, touts it as an “alternative to financial aid” but says the company did not set out to target students when it launched in 2006. It stumbled on this niche and began in 2011 offering students a free premium membership, which usually costs $30 a month. It charges sugar daddies $70 to $180 a month, depending on the membership level.

    Seekingarrangement.com also offers to connect same-sex couples looking for such arrangements, or “sugar mommies” for men. But the male-female “sugar daddy” dynamic makes up the bulk of its business.

    It’s difficult to pin down exactly how many students are involved in such situations, because they are private transactions. And it’s a niche rarely studied by academics.

    SeekingArrangement.com says student users on the site jumped from 79,400 worldwide in 2010 to 1.9 million this year and students make up one-third of its users. And while it sees thousands of signups on any given day, the company says enrollment jumps during August and January when tuition is typically due, sometimes to more than double its normal levels.

    (snipped, more @link)

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUGAR_DADDIES_TUITION?SITE=AZTUS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    Trading sex for financial aid? Is that accurate, 1.9 million students trying to find sugar-daddys to pay off their debt? Holy crap, sometimes I wonder if I’m still living in the USA, or if we’ve morphed into some foreign backwards entity. This is scary stuff, and why is it even legal? Isn’t Nevada still the only state where prostitution is legal?

    There is something so wrong about with a country that can’t educate it’s youth or provide adequate housing for students while they attend college, trying to better themselves, without landing them in so much debt. Maybe the parents of all those UofO over-entitled brats that just trashed Lake Shasta could step up and make some tuition donations to help other kids that really want to better themselves.

    What is this world coming to? No morals, no respect for anything or anyone, including it appears oneself.

    Straight up pimping-
    B

  2. A Texas Grandfather says:

    When the courts are not balanced and one party because of sex is given preference over the other or because of “Who” they are, these are the type of problems that arise.

    Kaine Horman has always used every trick he could to get the courts to be in his favor so that he could escape paying child support. He did not do that by himself. It took lawyers and a sympathetic judge to make it happen.

    O/T
    I do not know what is in Blink’s tool bag or how much knowledge she has about guns and ammunition. She is an exception regarding things that a man normally uses around a home. I am no stranger to a kitchen regarding equipment or to shopping at a grocery store. However, there are still things that women purchase to make a job easier that I would not recognize. Although Mrs. ATG’s clean out cost a lot of money, and some angst on my part, we had a long conversation about the necessity for not making unilateral decisions regarding disposing of equipment and materials. Love you too B.

  3. Rose says:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/05/multnomah_county_sheriff_dan_s_9.html#incart_big-photo
    Some quid quo pro that investigation suspension is; they gave him almost 3 more months in the job:
    “That inquiry was suspended Friday, but could reopen if new allegations emerge before Staton quits.”

  4. T. Ruth says:

    Saturday will be the six year anniversary of this child’s abduction. DY had indicated they were working on an updated progressed composite image of Kyron. I hope they release it. This one here done by someone way back, looks real similar to the one I came up with, only lighter hair (as Malty was requesting). I think this is probably a pretty accurate image of a 14 year old Kyron, which he will be in a few months in September if he’s still alive. Were I Desiree, I’d be posting this image all over my website instead of baby pictures.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VaJ1lh5JEz8/TsiiruNL4nI/AAAAAAAABAc/EyP_5enZqJ8/s1600/270249_207210892665206_125031927549770_633711_2873945_n.jpg

  5. Rose says:

    @wrt who & when.
    Waiting for TMH’s own words, but hopefully at least a week after June 4, so the bios’ only (unproductive) investigatory “pressure” is not primary associated with retaliation against Teri at the 6th yr anniversary. Because that is a dead end–guilty or not. If I were the bios, I’d be stomping in the press on Sherrif’s investigation with both nail boits. Their silence in failing to call for a new agency frankly tends to implicate in some unknoen respect for something.

    So as to who & when–we have been told by mcso & others Teri told intimate details of her family business wrt one son and to Kaine there while working out, so perhaps this issue too, and someone overheard and sought out the 7 year old.

  6. Rose says:

    You know what I think is REALLY strange?
    Skyline School principal, staff, and pta/parents have never ever had
    a year end memorial assembly to honor Kyron. Were I the
    guidance couselor, I’d have insisted. A Remembrance Assembly need
    not be prefaced on a belief in his death.
    Nor need it alarm the young.
    Words “We’re here to remember Kyron.
    A couple of children read poems.
    A couple choral songs familiar to them, even sing along.
    A few sentences by a child who knew him.
    And maybe bring cans of food for a food bank.
    Or each grade raises a donation yearly for kids for
    afterschool activity scholarship in his name and presents it.
    Not to have done these remembrance
    assemblies speaks to a sense to shame within PPS
    and the school imo. Easier to sweep under the rug.

  7. Rose says:

    wrt emails
    “They. DO NOT. Exist.
    B”

    Then DY fabricates, which might be consistent
    personality-wise with problems of adulthood (ie loss of custody)
    OR someone she trusts gave her that info.
    Ie the trusted self-characterized “Bridge” between
    the bios and mcso might have said an mcso deputy
    told him.

    There is a reason DY has never stated publicly who the alleged email or emails were “to.”
    B

  8. A Texas Grandfather says:

    T. Ruth

    I agree about posting updated drawings or aged photos of Kyron rather than baby pictures. It is only in DY’s mind that he remains a baby.

    I wonder if they compared the aged photo to those of KH at that age?

  9. Rose says:

    @TRuth. Your age-progressed image strikes one as fitting.
    I notice it has a philtrum w/out ridges, flat midline, & low set ears.
    As that is diagnostic imo, how did you get there?

  10. Rose says:

    The question is i guess, did Kaine know some of kyron’s physical features could
    be diagnostic? (head circumpherence %ile at birth was the biggie, was it average?)

    Did physical features early on motivate in part his imo
    misplaced custody vindictiveness to DY,
    who could not cure the past but could parent in
    the present with her newfound stability?

  11. Rose says:

    If Soldier, who truly has NO firsthand knowledge, or firsthand source, publishes intimate knowledge of Horman emails and Kaine’s knowledge of same, does that substantiate she is merely biomom’s (read and approve) amaneusis and spokesperson,!parroting information received secondhand?

    My sources tell me Stacey Green has zero contact with Desiree Young personally.
    B

  12. Rose says:

    OT @TRuth. The best ad targeting my daughter’s public (outofState) U was for egg donors. Of course, the $20,000 woukdn’t cover a semester’s tuition, & no R&B, but it could be timed for a summer “job.” I called it to my kid’s attention, tho I didn’t recommend it. The U gave her a dining room job at 7.50/hr. I made it thru the same U’s grad school typing nights & weekends, never eating, and dropping out a year to work. The proportional cost increase since then would have made attendance impossible. The % increases have occurrd since the “Reagan Revolution” moved to State govts. Taxpayers have not wanted to invest in a quality University-based higher education for all children, and State legislators know that, esp in Red states like this one. Instead there is this craze for community colleges based on price. I must say having read that article some part of me mourned the values I transmitted and my knowledge of its harm to women and regretted my kid hadn’t availed herself. The result of taxpayer refusal to pay for University education for all who woukd seek it is voters who know nothing about world affairs and Constitutional issues, and just want a “Deal”.

  13. Rose says:

    I knew a man who told me he got his PhD in the 70s in part by selling blood.
    And many men sold their reproductive contribution as well, esp med students.

  14. Rose says:

    @NelMel, I’m sure I’ll read it repeatedly. Very incisive. (And I wish I’d known these things my own first year of marriage and had someone like you as a mentor.) I particularly agree that a move out of State with a boyfriend would be a dull rather than a scandelous story.

    I would throw in the ole credibility factor, however. Why not just make it a point to be honest in your public statements if you are going to take the time to make them in efforts to raise awareness and propel your missing childs case? It seems conflicting to me to accuse others of lying , your husband is telling everyone your “private life is no longer so tell the truth” for her to not- TY was absolutely correct on that point, btw, but it applied to all of them.

    Scandalous or not- if you file a $10M lawsuit against someone you better be sure you can meet its thresholds of evidence and you better know upfront what can be used against you in counter/cross claims. To nelmel’s point- the truth of the periphery are leads until such time those leads are exhausted. As an example- are you really going to sue someone for lying to the media when you have actively participated in doing so yourself?

    I should probably point out that NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is obligated to “tell the truth to the media” most especially when you were tresspassing on private property with a locked gate at the residence of a missing child and LE expressly told you NOT to speak to the media. As a journalist- it is OUR JOB to verify and fact check the veracity of statements we intend to publish, period. I can’t help but wonder if that issue is central to why WW never covered Kyron’s case after Pitkin. (ppsst- it was his exchange with TMH).

    Why further lie to the public and state your publicly funded tort action was dismissed to not interfere with the criminal investigation when in reality you just learned that the woman MCSO, the DA and YOU have had fixed in your crosshairs as some sort of accessory (save for the fact she was never a suspect per Don Rees) was cleared completely of any involvement, knowledge of, and knowledge of anyone’s involvement to include TMH.

    B

  15. Rose says:

    catch NelMel’s analysis
    one page back, but alas once again no pasta.

  16. Rose says:

    I went to Missing Kyron FB and saw a long writing advertising a Remembrance which was written as tho by Desiree focusing on anguish and pain. But it’s not on gofundme or any other source by her. missing Kyron FB attributed it by link to Soldier’s Sacramento page. Who knows? The point is some surrogate is inhabiting DY’s skin in articulating her pain, and writing for her, which is pretty psychotic. Like the grunt soldier who wrote “I thought K lived with Desiree and only visited Kaine,” and Surrogate Spokeswoman replied “Yep.” You’re right NelMel, She who reads and approves does not Correct.

  17. cd says:

    JMO

    Maybe LE had some emails that they somehow obtained from an unnamed source or their tip line and they were not able to identify who wrote the emails. LE could have shown the emails to KH and DY in an attempt to tie them to TH as evidence. That could be the reason why Kaine never mentions said emails ( because he is not sure they were actually written by TH) Also the reason why he never mentioned any hateful emails authored by TH in his divorce or protective order.

    The emails probably did not even mention Kyron by name and relayed someones frustration with their stepson LE would have ask KH and DY if the writing style was similar to TH’s. Why else would LE have scheduled a lunch with DY and KH just to show them the emails.

    Meanwhile DY jumped on the emails as she does on every tip against TH no matter the source and convinced herself TH must have authored them. I remember on the DR P. show all the talk about a fight between TH and KH the night before KY went missing(the fight was even used on air as a leader into the show). When DR. P ask Kaine about the fight he completely denied it ever happened. It sounded to me like DY was given mis-information by someone and immediately believed it without checking with Kaine.

    That the emails cannot be proven to or even proven likely to have been written by TH could be the reason DY won’t publish the notes or even give details about what was said in them, I think she could get in trouble legally for claiming TH wrote the emails when she has no proof as to who may have written them.

    I think some people just get off of inserting themselves into Kyrons case by feeding DY false information and watching her react publicly. The so called Yahoo tip line is a perfect place to pass misinformation and watch it being broadcast by DY and her Facebook page.

  18. NelMel says:

    Rose says:
    May 31, 2016 at 3:32 am
    catch NelMel’s analysis
    one page back, but alas once again no pasta.
    —————————————————————————–

    (nelmel tosses very thinly sliced zucchini and chopped yellow summer squash with lightly seared garlic, olive oil, butter, freshly grated romano cheese, and spaghetti)

    Did you want the Pinot Noir, or the Merlot?

  19. Rose says:

    2 soundbites for Pitkin.
    a journalist’s joke.
    1) verifies an affair had commenced. (no confirmed evidence for that)
    2) says he doesn’t know if Cook was married.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1007/14/ng.01.html
    took us one minute of googling to answer no. 2.

  20. Rose says:

    above was July 14.
    Pitkin was soundbiting Grace on June 30 also.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/30/ng.01.html
    Does she pay these opiners?

  21. Rose says:

    when one types James Pitkin into WW’s internal search, one draws blanks on all Horman stories.
    http://www.wweek.com/search/james+pitkin/?q=james+pitkin
    Is there more here than meets the eye, Blink?

  22. Rose says:

    Found copied onto a gossip site.
    Said nothing but gossiped investigators had increasingly focused on Teri.
    And he was warned by a tv man reporters don’t go onto the property.

    Iirc there was also something about her cell records not matching her route or the focus was due to her cell records. To be clear, that information on June 28, 2010 was patently false. Didn’t he get booted from the “we will ask our own questions here thank you” press conference.
    B

  23. T. Ruth says:

    NelMel says:
    May 29, 2016 at 11:55 am

    It is blatantly obvious that no investigative reporting has been going on, to benefit Kyron.

    (snipped)
    ************
    Very true, and that is the saddest part of all ^^!

    I’ve always thought that what DY was/is hiding is that after Kyron was born, she probably suffered PPD. (She seemed to know a whole lot about it when she was saying that TMH did not suffer from PPD, and she stated that when you have PPD you don’t want anything to do with your children, paraphrasing.) Got to remember here, that she not only lost custody to Kyron, but to a 7/8 year old Q as well. Perhaps in her depression, stemming from the failure of her second marriage with her brand new shit-ass husband sleeping around, she may have felt worthless and suicidal. Who knows, she may have possibly tried to commit suicide and overdosed on some drug. Thus, losing custody of both boys, and perhaps causing kidney problems in the process. At one point, she said Kyron saved her life. How so? Was she suicidal before she had Kyron?

    IDK, but such a scenario would make sense, and it would also make sense that she didn’t want that information made available to her boys or the public.

    I’m with you, it has to be something much larger than some boyfriend.

    However, whatever happened for her to lose custody of both her boys, I don’t think has anything to do with Kyron’s disappearance, but it certainly would have something to do with DY’s behavior and mental status.

    That being said, I’m assuming, that DY had primary custody of Q when she divorced GM, but I’m not certain that’s been verified.

    Anyone feel like they’ve been sucking on bucatini and getting no where?

    DY had primary physical custody of Quinn until she relinquished it and moved to Canada for a few months. She tried and failed to modify that custody after that.

    To sharpen this point- Desiree did not LOSE custody of Kyron nor Quinn. She voluntarily relinquished it by stipulation entry.

    B

  24. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Great post NelMel

    Your points about KH match, with more detail, my thinking regarding his activities over this whole issue. A quality family court should have investigated what was happening in the household just as you point out in your post. KH is a control freak. He tries to control everything around him. Based on the little real information we have, it is unknown just how he accomplishes his control. Terri may know quite a bit of his routines and she may share that with Blink for publication when the interview process is completed.

    Regarding Rose’s question about the appearance of Kyron being diagnostic, I without training in that field spotted some of those issues at the beginning, but did not know if it was or could be related to the problems Kyron was experiencing.

    The triangular shape of his head reminded me of a young lad that we went to grammer school with in first and second grade. We were told by the teacher that he was a “Water Head Baby” and his life span would be short. He of course had major health problems and indeed he did pass away during the Christmas holidays of his second grade year.

  25. A Texas Grandfather says:

    T. Ruth

    Do you remember the Broadway show and subsequent movie titled “The Best Little Whore House in Texas” ?

    That whole story is about female students at the University of Texas traveling from Austin seventy miles down hwy 71 to Columbus, Texas to work in order to earn money for school.

    This house operated with the permission of the Colorado County Sheriff
    and the local courts for thirty or forty years. It was finally exposed by a former deputy sheriff and part time news reporter working for Eye-Witness News in Houston. The Colorado County Sheriff actually pistol whipped the reporter and his cameraman with the camera running.

    This new sugar daddy thing on the internet is just using the internet to run a large pimping operation. These types of operations are not new.

  26. Rose says:

    Gov’t Transparency in Portland at the highest levels has failed in the Staton case (ie liberal Kafourey).

    The County Dir of HR “suspended” the Sheriff investigation last Friday contingent on Sheriff retiring by 3 months out.

    Overlooked by said Dir, not to mention media reporters like Smith, was the fact while 2 command staff, said they had not yet been interviewed on Wed, and would cooperate in future, where is the disclosure or questioning by Smith et al on Friday as to whethwr they had been interviewed yet?

    If Moore and Gates had NOT been interviewed on Friday, what a slap in the face, how pulling the rug out from under them, after they publically asked Commissioners for cover, to have Staton in place 3 more long months, without ever having their concerns and observations documented. If I were any County employee then, I’d nit trust Kafoury one inch. She says come forward. Those most immediate observors do. Then she “suspends” without their info.

  27. Rose says:

    wrt “Rose says:
    May 31, 2016 at 10:53 am
    Found copied onto a gossip site.
    Said nothing but gossiped investigators had increasingly focused on Teri.
    And he was warned by a tv man reporters don’t go onto the property.

    Iirc there was also something about her cell records not matching her route or the focus was due to her cell records. To be clear, that information on June 28, 2010 was patently false. Didn’t he get booted from the “we will ask our own questions here thank you” press conference.
    B”

    Yes, he was a bootee.

    No the cell record thing was not in his WW June 28 write up —
    he entered a then open gate and talked
    to her about nothing.

    If all his articles had not disappeared from WW internal search,
    I’d call this specious. But his termination and articke deep six might explain why he left journalism altogether
    and no more Horman coverage of any kind appeared in WW, almost like a restraining order was in operation.

  28. A Texas Grandfather says:

    If the county HR director suspended the investigation prior to interviewing the two people most likely to provide evidence for action, then this was never an investigation. It was simply a “show” to make it look as if HR would properly respond. More insider activities to cover up the truth.

    Does Staton have some dirt on the HR Department?

  29. Rose says:

    @NelMel. OT I never knew what that thinly grated squash stuff at Whole Foods could be used for.
    Gonna get some promptly. Love garlic. Don’t do reds, idk why.
    But you are no longer throwing at walls or ceiling….
    PS kid is once again back in your land this summer, 4th year,
    if my garage sales get the last little $. I told her if she used gofundme I’d kill her.

    lol.
    B

  30. erose says:

    o/t Cost of Higher Ed in USA

    1 – Employees5

    On average, 75% of the total costs associated with a college degree are employee wages, benefits, and etc. College employees include faculty, administration, and staff.

    http://www.straighterline.com/online-education-resources/cost-of-college-9/college-cost-break-down-why-college-is-so-expensive-part-two-page-2/

    10 highest paid college profs

    http://www.thebestschools.org/blog/2013/11/25/10-highest-paid-college-professors-u-s/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

    administration salaries

    https://www.higheredjobs.com/salary/salaryDisplay.cfm?SurveyID=34

  31. Rose says:

    “My sources tell me Stacey Green has zero contact with Desiree Young personally.
    B”

    It’s OK if SG confabulates in the absence of contact and information.
    But one time Desiree and Green chalked at the Moultons side by side.
    and Davidsons accepted her car wash $, and her go to gofundme plea results.
    So there is a history.

    The issue is one of them (Kelly?) has previously commended SG’s
    site saying we read and approve it. Hiwever no corrections to erroneous info appear (ie who had residential custody).

    One only has to read SG recently callng Kyron “the World Son” to know much is amiss.
    —-
    Imo Davidsons could reel her in at any time (which requires contact) and decided not to do so.

    Oh absolutely- I was just pointing out the intentional arms length status.
    B

  32. Rose says:

    yes, Davidsons have apparently constructed an intentional arms length.
    Which speaks to SG intelligence & character imo.

    But not so arms length when chalking or seaching together.

    imo btw, IF DY was silent if not misdirective abount the missing 5 months, imo
    it was likely motivated about TY having been then in the dark.

    In her shoes, with self esteem zapped, I too likely would feel so overwhelmed by combining work and a
    7 and 1 yo, I’d be delighted to take off, and stipulate father residence, doing what I coukd to avert child support.
    Boyfriend aside, imo her Stip was understandable for an emotionally abused self-supporting
    overwhelmed mother of 2 .

  33. erose says:

    LMAO

    “we will ask our own questions here thank you” press conference.
    B

  34. Rose says:

    wrt ATG says:
    “May 31, 2016 at 7:35 pm
    If the county HR director suspended the investigation prior to interviewing the two people most likely to provide evidence for action, then this was never an investigation. It was simply a “show” to make it look as if HR would properly respond. More insider activities to cover up the truth.
    Does Staton have some dirt on the HR Department?”

    @ATG i believe that is the case, but note Smith and Jacquiss never asked: Were Moore & Gates interviewed before the “suspension?”
    There is press-politician collusion in this Berg.

  35. NelMel says:

    A Texas Grandfather says:
    May 31, 2016 at 1:27 pm
    (snipped)

    Your points about KH match, with more detail, my thinking regarding his activities over this whole issue. A quality family court should have investigated what was happening in the household just as you point out in your post. KH is a control freak. He tries to control everything around him. Based on the little real information we have, it is unknown just how he accomplishes his control. Terri may know quite a bit of his routines and she may share that with Blink for publication when the interview process is completed.

    ———–

    Just tossing pasta at the wall with speculation, ATG.

    In my state, child custody and child support are determined at separate hearings with separate judges (in most counties). Divorce is handled in Supreme Court.

    In a situation as what occurred to TMH, first, she could have immediately petitioned for a hearing for custody once KH took Baby K.

    In that hearing, which would be in Family Court, as the petitioner, although she would not be eligible for a court-appointed attorney (only a defendent can be eligible for those), she could state that she is Baby K’s mother, has a home to live in (the child’s home up to that time) and that she wishes to remain in the family home with the child. She would NOT have to vacate the house, even if KH was in the middle of a street in Las Vegas with proof that she was a prostitute. Nope. He could blather all he wants. He has no proof — the judge would ask for proof that TMH should not have “primary physical custody” of Baby K — and if KH couldn’t cough up that proof, the judge would order joint custody and order that Baby K’s primary physical residence remain unchanged. AND, that TMH lives there until…

    (ta da…) In my state, KH would then have to file for divorce. I know he filed an RO to keep TMH away, but in my state, he’d have to cough up proof at a hearing to keep that RO in place. TMH would be a defendant. She would not have to prove innocence. KH would have to prove the MFH existed, etc. He would have to prove that TMH was involved in Kyron’s disappearance. If police were corrupt and tried to manufacture some elaborate tale on behalf of KH so he could keep his RO, well….

    A Law Guardian would be appointed for Baby K. Immediately.

    There would supervised visitation for TMH. Immediately. AND SHE COULD REMAIN IN THE HOME. Without a trial and conviction, a Family Court judge would not permit permanent separation of mother and daughter based on a “well, sources told me…” In my state, spouses cannot be “kicked out” of a marital dwelling until there is a legal separation or divorce.

    Bottom line, no way am I ever moving to Oregon.

  36. Rose says:

    @NelMel. Ditto–to think I contemplated sending son to DY’s former employer, SOU.
    While both are “liberal” States, the difference is NY has many fine law schools, and many NY legislators
    over centuries have been products of them. That is not my image of the backgrounds of
    OR’s legislators, the quintessential good ol boy State.
    Moreover, OR’s judges seem largely a product of OR law schools, which I’d advise
    anyone to move out there for who had trouble getting in in the East, leading Midwest/South, or
    California.

  37. Rose says:

    didn’t Kantor move there from the East for law school?

  38. Rose says:

    more Clackamus LE and drugs.
    Retired Detective (imo this began before retirement).
    MJ, meth, heroin.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2016/05/former_clackamas_county_detect_2.html
    Now K coukd’ve been taken by someone like thus–drove regularly to Chicago and had storage lockers.
    Doubt he’s the only one.

  39. Rose says:

    cd says:
    May 31, 2016 at 5:51 am
    “The so called Yahoo tip line is a perfect place to pass misinformation and watch it being broadcast by DY and her Facebook page.”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/comment-page-52/#comment-2253753
    You nailed it; dangerous indeed to run a parallel, or replacement tip line to LE.
    Kaine doesn’t comment on it. Why, as could siphon off tips.
    Implies lack of trust in the investigation, and that the
    information flow to her from mcso has ceased. It is, however, a good marketing tool for gofundme raising.

  40. Rose says:

    @Blink, what jurisdiction was the Detective in whom Terri spoke to about Kaine’s steroid activities?
    Was it Clackamus? I’d place a bet some of the arrestee’s fellow detectives knew about his post-retirement business. I doubt it began after retirement, at least his own use. It’s apparent those in the drug transportation business have access to storage facilities in other States. Who better to use as a mule than a deputy or officer.

    DEA
    B

  41. Rose says:

    those 118 jail beds Staton recommended to Kafoury to close will be closed.
    http://patch.com/oregon/gresham/multnomah-county-approves-nearly-2-billion-budget-0
    I suppose reestablishing an Undersheriff position given the salary for same in the 2017 budget
    made closure imperative.

    Because an Undersheriff salary rate was in the first budget Staton sent Kafoury, and republished as hers, imo
    Reese as a hiree pending preterm-end replacement of Staton has been in the works and agreed on by Staton, Reese, and Kafoury at least as far back as Staton’s drafting that budget.

  42. Rose says:

    I don’t get why Carole Smith & colleagues think “I didn’t kniw” is a defense, and that this is not a CEO firing offense.
    http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/05/31/portland-district-failed-to-disclose-excessive-lead-levels-at-47-school-buildings/
    It was their job to put procedures in place such that they did nlknow.

    It’s like Keefer being reprimanded for not following door policy, publishing new procedures to comply in Eagles Nest, then doing the same old. I have no doubt his Supervisors and the Supt pled we didn’t know Skyline failed to follow PPS door & sign in policies.

  43. Rose says:

    http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/06/01/sheriff-dan-staton-will-get-a-raise-on-the-way-out-the-door/
    I wondered why in the first Sheriff’s Budget presented to the CC, the Undersheriff position, which Dan had eliminated, was nevertheless fully funded.

    Imo his departure month and replacement from outside had been predetermined between himself, Reese and Kafoury (allegedly a bff of Reese and determined to give him the inside track on the next election)
    prior to that Budget submission. The public is being lied to that Reese as Undersheriff is a recent rescue plan, responsive to unfolding events imo.

  44. Rose says:

    remembering,
    This ADA went straight from a rare murder acquittal to
    working fulltime on Kyron’s case for a year per Kitz’ press release:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/05/jury_acquits_shawntell_moses_o.html
    Her career then lay elsewhere, in a political appointment.

  45. A Texas Grandfather says:

    NelMel

    Your court system reminds me of the courts in New York state.

    We all talked about the absence of a Guardian ad litum for Kiara during the court case. Kaine Horman managed to escape the normal procedures followed in a custody case. The only explanation is a family court that was not headed by a qualified judge or the judge protected Kaine.

    We have to remember that both Oregon and Washington states are two of the most liberal states in the West. Everything West of I-5 is left-wing liberal that is completely different than the Eastern portion of both states. Unfortunately, West of I-5 is where the majority of the population lives.

  46. A Texas Grandfather says:

    NelMel

    Your court system reminds me of the courts in New York state.

    We all talked about the absence of a Guardian ad litum for Kiara during the court case. Kaine Horman managed to escape the normal procedures followed in a custody case. The only explanation is a family court that was not headed by a qualified judge or the judge protected Kaine by ignoring normal procedures to protect a child.

    We have to remember that both Oregon and Washington states are two of the most liberal states in the West. Everything West of I-5 is left-wing liberal that is completely different than the Eastern portion of both states. Unfortunately, West of I-5 is where the majority of the population lives.

  47. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose
    O/T
    Things have changed immensely since you or I were in college.

    The referenced report from the department of education about costs IMO does not attack the real problems. Colleges and Universities do pay some professors a lot of money. The administration eats up twice the money or more than the actual teaching staff. Much of this cost is mandated by federal rules and contributes nothing of value to the student. If the Federal Department of education were to be eliminated, almost half of the tuition costs could be eliminated.

    The athletic departments of Tier one and two colleges and universities are net money makers. For example, the sales of athletic gear or gear with a school name brings in over one hundred million dollars each year for the University of Texas. Many of the schools of similar size make close to that amount. This does not include ticket sales to football,basketball or other sports or the activity fees the schools charge the student.

    The big drain on athletics is the sports programs for women which do not pay for themselves with ticket sales and the male programs of wrestling,baseball and softball. Baseball at one time was popular enough to pay for itself. Soccer may someday be as popular as baseball used to be.

    The advent of student loans has made it possible for students to borrow large sums of money for tuition and other costs of getting a college diploma. This has increased the enrollments with meant new buildings for instruction, housing and other services such as food.

    I went to a private college where the semester tuition for fifteen to twenty-one hours was $750 when state schools were at $200. That same school now charges $6,500 per semester. I paid my way by playing in a professional symphony orchestra at $25 per rehearsal hour and $50 per performance hour. There were extra dollars made by playing for pay at large church musical events. Those jobs are very limited today. Most freshmen or first year students of today simply do not have the skills required because they have not paid their dues by practicing the hours it takes.

    Your child is in a music program of some sort, if I remember correctly she plays cello. If at all possible, do not burden her future with student loans or debt.

  48. T. Ruth says:

    I think it goes without saying that all of us were shocked when Terri decided not to fight the TRO. (That’s when many people jumped over the fence.)
    Had she gone in and defended herself against KH’s claims on the RO, which were:

    “I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me,” Kaine Horman wrote in his petition. “The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true.”

    wouldn’t KH have to provide some sort of proof, or the RO would be dropped, or at the very least altered to provide supervised custody visits? The hearing was scheduled and she would have been heard and would have had the opportunity to make KH put-up or shut-up. At least I think that’s how it works, that whomever is bringing forward the RO, plaintiff, has to have proof of the accusations when and if the RO is contested.

    This is where it all gets tricky, legally, for me. I’m still not sure just why she did not fight the TRO. I’m guessing it was on the advice of Mr. Houze, but I still don’t know the reasoning. Was it simply because he assumed that LE must have had some proof? I’m hoping Blink can cover this in her interview.

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