Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
New York, NY- For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case. Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.
Horman courtesy of People
Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions, and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.
In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning, Horman maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.
“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”
“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”
Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.
“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent. I want her to tell me where Kyron is. If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”- Desiree Young
“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date. To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page
Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney, Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.
Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview. Um, What?
Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.
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@Rose says:
May 30, 2016 at 7:57 pm
I have no idea who did that composite. I was just out googling images and there it was. Though I remember seeing this image somewhere early on. Looks like it came from here and was done in 2011, which is kinda’ strange because the composite done here, he looks waaay older than 9. Looks more like he would like at 14/15 to me. Strange, huh?
http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.html
@ATG, NelMel (thanks for the wall decor), isn’t it true Kantor had never been assigned to a divorce/custody case prior to Horman. Who asked the Chief Family Court Judge to assign Kantor (with his agreement of course) is my question? Hint hint my opinion is a DA employee.
Rose says:
May 31, 2016 at 8:03 pmOne only has to read SG recently callng Kyron “the World Son” to know much is amiss.
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Imo Davidsons could reel her in at any time (which requires contact) and decided not to do so.
Oh absolutely- I was just pointing out the intentional arms length status.
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I think the arms length status started because soldier repeats a lot or BS about DDS and it seems like DY is under some sort of cease and desist order (because of false claims about DDS in the media) and now DY cannot talk about DDS and doesn’t want to be directly associated with soldier who does. The legal restriction is probably what precipitated the ramped up attacks by soldier about DDS Including claims made by her (so called)cousin whom I have noticed has disappeared from soldiers page along with all of his insane posts.
Yep, et al.
B
imo on Houze’ advice, TH did the right thing not “fighting” the RO.
And when mcda devised the RO plan, they knew she coukdn’t “fight” it.
Kaine woukd’ve offered the same old hearsay, DA would’ve refused to let
mcso testify, and Meisenheimer in his kangaroo court would’ve ruled against her.
She would not have been able to testify on her own behalf under oath about
the abduction or mfh accusations. And, how does one disprove a trumped up
story anyway even if she coukd? There woukd have been the same no
contact result; but if she “fought,” she’d have waived her Constitutional protection
wrt testifying. Houze gave the right advice, in view of how crooked he knew mcso/da to be.
Vehemently agree. And to add- TMH was openly threatened that if she “did not tell them what they wanted to know” she would never see her daughter again. More on that later, but clearly both she and her counsel believed that threat and with good reason. In addition, at the onset, Bunch had not been hired and it is not that easy to interview and locate family law counsel willing to retain under the pressures and rigors ahead considering the LE bullhorn from Rackners office. Bottom line as you will hear from Ms. Moulton Horman directly- she followed counsels advice to the letter.
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@TRuth. That blog says a Dr Pickle sent her the image, and he himself was given it by an unknown person.
I must say her first post turned me off–black and white thinking dividing the world into Terri supporters and bio supporters. The bios’ interests are not congruent, & they don’t speak. And I haven’t seen more than one, maybe two, Terri supporters. Most rational people are in the I don’t know column, but there seems to be insufficient evidence to indict much less try at present. Not that mcso/da won’t keep on trying.
Its kind of ironic if you think about it. First you allow two different women to raise and mother your 2 sons. Then when one of your sons goes missing you entrust another stranger to to be responsible for keeping your sons face in front of the public.
IMO
I mean pretend like your son is missing and you want people to look for him. Do you allow someone else to advocate for your missing child all the while claiming you have no involvement in the efforts to remind people to look for him. The whole soldier hate campaign and claims DY has nothing to do with her efforts is just plain weird. If it was me I would be on Facebook and anywhere else I could find begging for his return everyday.
Maybe DY just has a very busy life. However I don’t believe she is currently employed.
OT
I get to post a lot because I am having a gout attack and have to stick around the house.
Feel better soon CD.
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A Texas Grandfather says:
June 1, 2016 at 11:13 am
NelMel
Your court system reminds me of the courts in New York state.
We all talked about the absence of a Guardian ad litum for Kiara during the court case. Kaine Horman managed to escape the normal procedures followed in a custody case. The only explanation is a family court that was not headed by a qualified judge or the judge protected Kaine by ignoring normal procedures to protect a child.
We have to remember that both Oregon and Washington states are two of the most liberal states in the West. Everything West of I-5 is left-wing liberal that is completely different than the Eastern portion of both states. Unfortunately, West of I-5 is where the majority of the population lives.
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My state is New York State.
I am what most would consider a very left wing liberal. I actually do not believe that any liberal or conservative difference in thought has much to do with the custody malfunction in TMH’s situation. More, I think it seems to reflect some level of corruption in the whole process — your points about a ill-suited judge being one example — and KH was able to get all he wanted, for a time, because of corruption and corruption infects all political ideologies when it’s about people who don’t want their power taken away.
I have some career and volunteer experiences that have taught me over many years that there are mistakes made in all 50 states, in all types of cases, when “the welfare of the child” is the issue.
I don’t know Oregon, as I’ve said, but, I honestly feel that KH would have had a helluva lot more hassle, if not flat out failure, in his quest to control taking Little K away from her mother, if he’d attempted to do it here. That being said, he still might have pulled it off. Who knows.
I can only say simple legal research would support that point.. AND it would show (in cases not sealed) as far as overall similar ex parte filings go- it is rare as it occurred in any jurisdiction.
B
Ordinarily when one contests a restraining order, doesn’t the plaintiff have to prove his allegations to the judge during that hearing? That’s what I don’t get. The RO stands until it is contested and removed due to the plaintiff being unable to prove the allegations within, or it is withdrawn by plaintiff, is that correct?
I guess I could go read about the law. I just figured someone here knows that answer. If KH could not prove the allegations, for whatever reason, DA not testifying, MCSO saying ongoing investigation, etc., then would not the RO have to have been denied? This is what’s not clear to me.
Rose says:
June 1, 2016 at 4:15 am
@NelMel. Ditto–to think I contemplated sending son to DY’s former employer, SOU.
While both are “liberal” States, the difference is NY has many fine law schools, and many NY legislators
over centuries have been products of them. That is not my image of the backgrounds of
OR’s legislators, the quintessential good ol boy State.
Moreover, OR’s judges seem largely a product of OR law schools, which I’d advise
anyone to move out there for who had trouble getting in in the East, leading Midwest/South, or
California.
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I will point out that our corruption problem in NYS government has come to a head with both our former long-time and big time Democrat, Assembly speaker Sheldon Silver, indicted for numerous felonies, while our former Senate leader, Republican Dean Skelos, was convicted of federal corruption charges. I can see how Oregon or any other state can have problems like ours simple spider out into all branches of government, including all the way down to local/county legal systems. It’s very frustrating.
Sooooo….how does all of this affect an child abduction case? I think, a lot. Little K has not seen her mother because of it, I am convinced. A parent with control of the money can run down a custody process until the other parent is absolutely prevented from seeing her child (due to imposed costs, for example, and I’m not referring to child support). This case, for me, clearly shows one parent being able to call the shots, among two stepparents and the other bio. How did that happen? One way to find Kyron, I believe, is to follow the whole process of KH’s relationships with DY and TMH, with those women’s family members (how did he get along with the in-laws, the adult siblings if any, etc.).
It seems that James Moulton opted to resume contact with the new KH domestic family, including KM and her daughters. Was he having an overwhelming need to see his little sister that he was able to set aside the accusations from those who point all fingers at his own mother? Or was he swept up into the KH cult of personality? I would love to her James’ thoughts about all of this. His resumed contact with KH — has it continued steadily? Was that something orchestrated by a well-meaning KM (who’s gone now, from what i read). People do very, very strange things that we think we cannot understand — only because we never have all the information.
I agree with you James perspective is important. I am also quite certain as he is an adult and active military member it has likely evolved in the last 6 years.
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@ T. Ruth says:
June 1, 2016 at 2:02 pm
I know who did both of those composites on Alt. Theories blog. I was sent the originals before they were made public.
The one that was posted by Rose earlier was originally done by Lyn Glover when she was an admin known as LG (Elle Ghee) on the TH support page – she used an online age progression software. And the second was done by an early Anti TH page member (her name eludes me at the moment) who did several flyer options with different hair colors and in different languages, in response to LG’s photo (and later VWolfe’s pic that she put on the flyers in her 10-state cross country tour).
http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2011/11/kyron-horman-flier-age-progression.html
When the entire criminal justice system in a county is rigged to benefit themselves and their chosen ones, a citizen cannot have a lawful trial regarding any matter.
A big sigh for TH. If she had access to big dollars or a public venue that she could get her message to the people, things would be quite different. The real answer is for the people of the county to realize that their criminal justice system is badly broken and needs to be fixed.
@ T. Ruth says:
June 1, 2016 at 1:08 pm
Inre: the TRO and why TH might not have been advised to fight it immediately…
It was a FAPA RO, and it’s one of the few times where you are not afforded the liberty of ‘innocent until proven guilty’ in our legal system. You must prove you are NOT guilty of the accusation (and KH said he had ‘probable cause’ via LE TESTIMONY, and the judge allowed that in without any actual evidence exhibited). How could TH prove she was innocent when LE had all the exculpatory evidence to where she was (ie, the receipts etc) and why she was not guilty? Since they did not arrest nor charge her, she did not have access to evidence. She was literally in a Catch 22 situation, no making of her own.
At least that is my understanding of the situation.
THK- correct on the basic gist, but there was no LE “testimony” before the court. Kaine’s affidavit indicating HE was provided probable cause ( as if he would know the legal standard for even putting that verbiage in an ex parte document as a prima facie) was enough for Messenheimer to rule as ex parte. As you point out, FAPA is not your standard RO and is different than your basic civil order. I do not intend to re-introduce the merits we discussed 6 years earlier, but suffice it to say- it was the courts job to apply standards it did not. In my view, it gave benefits of doubt WITHOUT consideration of the best interests of the minor child and a GAL should have been appointed then.
Why you ask?
Because even if Mess*his*honor ruled- the allegation was “solicitation”- which means- SOMEONE was hired (allegedly) to off Kaine- and by his own words he feared for his daughter as well- wth wasn’t “English is for actual citizens” named or produced as a witness? I can tell you as a fact this occurs prior to his gj testimony so that is not the reason. Furthermore- if one believed the allegation- what other foundation existed to corroborate the word of Kaine ( who, btw, had an interest in the outcome)?
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quite an access litany
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/309911-187978-coach-pleads-guilty-to-sex-abuse
wrt
” there was no LE “testimony” before the court. Kaine’s affidavit indicating HE was provided probable cause ( as if he would know the legal standard for even putting that verbiage in an ex parte document as a prima facie) was enough for Messenheimer to rule as ex parte.
. In my view, it gave benefits of doubt WITHOUT consideration of the best interests of the minor child and a GAL should have been appointed then.
even if Mess ruled- the allegation was “solicitation”- which means- SOMEONE was hired (allegedly) to off Kaine- wth wasn’t “English is for actual citizens” named or produced as a witness? this occurs prior to his gj testimony so that is not the reason. Furthermore- if one believed the allegation- what other foundation existed to corroborate the word of Kaine ( who, btw, had an interest in the outcome)?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/#comments
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clapping til my hands bleed.
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I am galled every time I see child advocate Mess’ picture.
his grisley mien reminds me of The Child Advocate Who Objects to Being Named,
with whom I think he shares psychological features.
who’s gonna put Smith “I didn’t kniw what was going on” on leave?
http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2016/06/portland_schools_lead_crisis_c.html#incart_big-photo
Shoulda been put on leave in June 2010. for not monitoring & enforcing safety policies.
one MD gets it.
http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2016/06/bend_legislator_portland_super.html#incart_big-photo
great letter imo
http://media.oregonlive.com/education_impact/other/Letter%20from%20Rep%20Buehler.pdf
Yup.
B
is you ask me, the failures in the abduction investigation
lay as much at Carole the Supt’s feet as mcso’s.
@cd. I thot you were talking about Kaine til you got to the DY.
cd says:
June 2, 2016 at 5:46 am
and kaine had 3: quinn during their marriage, K and k.
This is what made me think you were referring to Kaine’s BKH lady & wall decorator:
” First you allow two different women to raise and mother your 2 sons. Then when one of your sons goes missing you entrust another stranger to to be responsible for keeping your sons face in front of the public.”
My reply was going to be “side benefits.”
@TKG. The composite was posted by TRuth.
Thank you for the background.
@TRuth. wrt “If KH could not prove the allegations, for whatever reason,”
Mess’ original ex parte grant demonstrated he didn’t give a F for whatever the lame OR law is.
or erhics are.
iirc he & Rackner were past colleagues.
This is general info, not particular to any one case or state law, but it’s very, very interesting. IMHO after reading a whole lot of this stuff today, a restraining order, i.e. a protective order, is being abused in many, many circumstances. Not saying it does not have its place, it certainly does, but I can see how easily, because of the laws, it can be abused, twisted and turned on a whim. Talk about spousal abuse, how about the ability to tack on an RO…..just because.
https://restrainingorderabuse.com/restraining-order-q-a/
Regarding the letter from the state representative and the lead found in the school systems water:
This guy is raising valid point and one of the comments at the letter site talks about radon as well. Many of Portland’s schools are old buildings with old pipe systems that may contain lead. Radon is a gas that is found entrapped in rock formations that is often released into water from deep wells.
This lead problem needs to be traced to its source. Is it local to a few buildings or is it from a city water supply? A person familiar with water testing and treating should be on staff or contracted. Samples should be taken and sent to a certified lab monthly for testing. If some schools use an on-site well or multiple wells, each of those should be tested individually.
Wait until the first lawsuits are filed due to the knowledge of exposure and inaction- how that will contrast with nobody filing a negligence tort against Skyline continues to flummox me to this day.
B
This lead issue may be the one that gets the school administration moving in the right direction. Go find some quality thinking people that really know how to manage things.
I agree with Rose’s statement about the failures of the abduction investigation are the fault of the school district as much as LE.
@the creative pasta purveyor.
wrt “It seems that James Moulton opted to resume contact with the new KH domestic family, including KM and her daughters. Was he having an overwhelming need to see his little sister that he was able to set aside the accusations from those who point all fingers at his own mother? Or was he swept up into the KH cult of personality? I would love to her James’ thoughts about all of this. His resumed contact with KH — has it continued steadily? Was that something orchestrated by a well-meaning KM (who’s gone now, from what i read). People do very, very strange things that we think we cannot understand — only because we never have all the information.”
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James was abruptly and imo unwisely cut off from a titular father figure while the man was out of town, James was expelled from the home. Who was Terri angrier at as a precipitator is unknown. But it is clear she wished to sever their familial tie with no goodbye. Kinda what Kaine did to kiara wrt her.
Was that done to protect James or to punish him?
We don’t know & I bet James confusingly didn’t either.
About his “reconnect” very unstandable given the abrupt severing.
Likely “the ladies” mom who came packaged with pubescent girls —
an idealized yet also sexualized – family was the lure.
My read of the photo visit was hannah was disdainful.
imo james seemed pretty oblivious to social cues.
thankfully he is employed with an income so cannot be exploited.
We cover Ms. Moulton Horman’s perspective on that and fair question.
B
NelMel
I have worked a few projects in New York state and learned about the court system.
Base on your writings, I believe that you are a liberal as the word was used regarding behavior and beliefs up to the early decades of the 20th century. The current use of the word by the left wing people is exactly the opposite of its original meaning.
o/t: Hopefully this is just a nice chat among folks with differing ideals- all welcome in my house of course. I don’t wish to “wax political” on here but I will say I have noticed in my own reactions to friends and colleagues that those supporting HRC simply due to the fact that they vote party in the general election get a wack from my cane when I am hobbling past them. (accidentally of course LOL).
B
Interestingly, mcso’s former Dir of research is married to the PPB Captn mentioned in Comments as PPB’s next Chief from internal ranks.
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp?fn=shea&mn=&ln=marshman&age=&city=&state=OR&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=71&y=15
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/06/portland_police_unions_call_fo.html#incart_river_mobile_home
She btw did not join Staton’s party and keep clean hands but employed Staronesque tactics; perhaps responsible for one of those settlements in past year’s budget Sett. Labor line item: http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-31766-analyst-sues-multnomah-county-sheriff-claims-age-discrimination.html
it’s likely one of Reese’s first moves will be to recruit this guy as his new Undersheriff at big pay. Who kniws, maybe his wife’s acting out in the press against Staton was designed to asvance Reese’ and his careers.
ot
Carole has hired Ellen Rosenblum’s OR OAG “independent” go-to firm, also favored by Gov Brown.
http://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/309956-188018-two-pps-employees-on-leave-pending-outcome-of-lead-testing-protocol-investigation
http://www.ssbls.com/news/governor-appoint-scott-shorr-oregon-court-appeals
And why is it the go-to firm?
“Strangely, Geyer appointed Bob Stoll as mediator. A prominent retired lawyer who founded the Stoll Berne firm in Portland, Stoll is a seasoned attorney. But he has little experience as a mediator. What’s more, he’s perhaps the most prominent Democratic activist and fundraiser in the state. He’s donated thousands of dollars to Brown over the years.
In a case in which Oracle feels it’s been consistently gotten unfavorable treatment by a hometown court, it remains to be seen whether the company would accept Stoll. (The state Justice Department has hired Stoll Berne five times since 2010.) Meanwhile, the acrimonious battle proceeds.” http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/04/oregon_vs_oracle_war_gets_pers.html
OT http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/06/02/two-portland-public-schools-officials-placed-on-leave-after-tainted-water-discovered/
This paid leave in Portland thing is getting old.
New School Board remains a joke–blaming underlings, not Smith.
But I want to know why lead in sink water (apparently kids drink from sink spigots)
rates more accountability than a child kidnapped with teacher permission during the
school day–and no press focused on that. Skyline had been counseled for failing to follow
PPS door control policy and Keefer conveyed that to parents in Eagles Nest saying here’s the policy
we’re going to implement. Then he didn’t. Where was his paid leave? He was cheated imo of
his O’Dea/Smith/Staton equal opportunity treatment.
@Blink. Sorry to disappoint but this very conservative person who was the only Republican I knew at age 17 and who campaigned door to door for that old drunk womanizer Tower when he was just a poly sci prof will pull for HRC merely because the alternative is the most insane unstabke dangerous fraudster I’ve met outside of the inlatient ward I worked on. Thank god even the US has the possibility of a military coup. enough said about “little boxes.”
Lol. I wrote my dissertation on Benghazi 2 years ago. Her watch, her resignation as a result. I don’t know of another career path that allows someone to resign a position because they failed miserably at it- to ask to be elected to a second job with more responsibility. 5 dead Americans = no second chances in my book- and that is my short version. That said- I most certainly would not have chosen either candidate out of a hat. Is what it is. You baited me! Lol.
B
OT and in nice chats among friends with different povs, I might think ” those supporting” The Entertainer “due to the fact that they vote party in the general election get a wack from my cane when I am hobbling past them,” to paraphrase a friend.
Imo Desiree didn’t file a negligence tort against the school because she chose to file against Terri. Discovery in a tort against the school would have exculpated Terri. Kaine had his plate full winning custody. A tort suit’s discovery against the school woukd’ve been exculpatory to Terri before that battle was over, and just let MCDA try to stop the City of Portland’s defense team from relevant discovery of mcso (wrt SZ) and from The Landscaper. Woukd’ve blown his FAPA away.
I couldn’t get on for all week end I am unhappy to hear about the lead in the school water That exposed
A lot of students to lead
However I am glad to see the PPS In the spot light I wonder how they will try to get out of any responsibility
This time
I missed that you fell Sweet Malty- are you ok?
B
Blink, please tell me that your “cane” is only figurative. You haven’t fallen off your bike again while playing laser polo?
Alas- I wish. Fractured sesamoid bone and plantar tear. Had 6 weeks of CAM boot before MRI showed good Dx so now in DH offloading 8-12. I am an absolutely miserable POD/ortho patient unfortunately.
B
@thatkewlgirl says:
June 2, 2016 at 4:28 pm
Thanks for letting us know who did the composite. Excellent job in my opinion. Maybe at 15 or 16, I think that’s a darn good resemblance of what Kyron would look like. It will be interesting to see what the new composite that DY said is coming will look like, if and when there really is one.
“I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me,” Kaine Horman wrote in his petition. “The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true.”
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I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son.
I “learned” that respondent “attempted” to hire someone to murder me.
KH says he based his belief on information provided to him by police.
Therefore, if true, then it must also be true that police provided KH with some sort of evidence that Terri Horman disappeared Kyron in some fashion.
The police also must have provided KH with some sort of evidence that she attempted to hire some one to kill him.
If either of the statements are true, then why wasn’t Terri arrested? When there is evidence of either crime, you’d get arrested.
If they are not true, and there was no evidence provided to Mr. Horman, them shouldn’t the RO have been thrown out because his statements are false?
Can TMH sue KH for making false statements in the RO which subsequently ruined her reputation? What happens to a RO when the accusation(s) therein can be proven false? Is there any repercussion to the plaintiff for making false statements?
Personally, I don’t think KH was given squat from LE, just a bunch of BS.
I think since I decided PPS Skyline staff and all concerned Is the reason Kyron went missing
That I am just waiting For it to come out To be true No one else needs to think like me of course
It just seems to me it is a answer that fits Why so many other parts of this case have been so strange
It was ground zero, period. I will never understand how it was never treated as such.
B
“how that will contrast with nobody filing a negligence suit tort against Skyline continues to flummox me to this day”
Who in the family would be eligible to file a tort? My take would be Terri, Kaine or Desiree Young. Perhaps another parent could file a class action in defense of the other students. At this point, six years later, a class action may not work.
This was stopped by MCSO when they took the case from PPB and attempted to charge Terri with the abduction. This was to misdirect the case in order to keep her from raising the alarm of steriod use by Kaine and some of his MCSO and perhaps PPB buddies at the gym. A Blatant misuse of their office to play CYA.
At this juncture- absent any new information or evidence of a clear and convincing negligent or reckless act (short version) that effectively “resets” the tort clock from its discovery- nobody. Within the 2 year window, given the marital status breakdown- only Kaine and Desiree. I don’t think there is or was any basis for a class action suit I am aware of.
B
I was glad Staton will retire in August. It is about time Maybe it will make a difference with info about the investigation
O/T I just got my first cane Dark blue and pansies Stands alone. Very cute
I took a hard fall in the P O parking lot Broke nothing but very sore and shaky on my feet
My grandma had a cane most of her life and she was fussy She liked a great looking cane so I thought
Of her She would approve
The election is not getting any better Still really don’t care to vote for anyone
Reading back I see Blinks remark about the Soldier and DY I never really thought there was any real relationship between them More likely with sister Kelly But I really think the Soldier is all about herself not Kyron
I wasn’t shocked when Terri didn’t fight Kaine He was going tear her up in every way to win Better to back off and fight later when she was in a better situation But Kaine should have let her visit with Kiara he was wrong there
I hope he knows it
ot
couldn’t happen to a more deserving Sheriff’s jail:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2016/06/03/ammon-ryan-bundy-jail-facebook-internet_n_10281232.html
Ok, I’m in the Portland metro area, as already stated and Portland is crazy political to the far left unthinking kind. I once was at a Christmas Party and the one half of the couple asked her partner…” I forget, what are we supposed to think about that?” The topic happened to be Boy Scouts but it could have been anything.
The lead in the water is unbelievable.
No, wait, the Kyron story is unbelievable. I think you, thinking as you do, can see where I’m going.
Something smells, has been smelling yet property values and rents are skyrocketing. Everyone thinks the city is cool but you’ve got to wonder when the elephant in the room gets too big to ignore.
Not sure if this was posted yet… SG getting her 15 minutes of fame for her Hatebook page link, along with another woman – that’s called Volunteers (plural). And the WoH looks pretty thrashed, even after cleanup – sad. (Not to point out obvious in the OLive photos, but is she putting up March goodies in June? Guessing someone isn’t as dedicated to getting to the WoH for cleanup and tribute as often as she’d want people to believe… )
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/06/holding_out_hope_for_kyron_hor.html#incart_river_home
Maltysays:
June 3, 2016 at 7:07 pm
You are way classy.
^^^ also note on the above link…
No TH bashing. Not by Oregonian. Not by SG (at least not reported in the piece). Even the posters are NOT the vile ‘non-approved’ ones typical of SG’s liking. Only a handful of finger pointers in the comments (same old folks).
@ Malty says:
June 3, 2016 at 7:07 pm
“But Kaine should have let her visit with Kiara he was wrong there
I hope he knows it”
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I suspect that it’s going to backfire in a HUGE way when Kiara hits teens and rebels. I hope by then she has some stable relationship with her mother, or some other person who can ground her.
I wonder, any legal minds in here… Can Kiara backsue her father for alienation of parent with how he manipulated and kept her from her mother? Or is that a winless battle, legally?
Rose
I am chuckling at your remark about the paid leave that the Skyline principal didn’t get for his mistakes regarding the security of the doors.
So the solution is to hire a legal firm to conduct the investigation about the finding of lead in the water. What does a legal firm know about water quality or what tests should be made? If this is to be a paper investigation, what is the goal? Fire someone for not making proper notification or having paperwork in the proper hands?
The goal should be to actually determine the physical systems that are responsible for the problem and then get them up to standard. This requires water quality people and engineers to look at all the delivery systems and then make recommendations for curing the problem. Then following a plan to make the required changes.
Most large school districts have engineering departments with Registered engineers responsible for electrical, mechanical and other systems found in schools.
ot
did not resign due to Benghazi.
never heard that one before.
but I do know the man gunning for Sec of State under Trump who’s been skewering establishment Republicans
like Geo Will for awhile. His Ex told me in 1987 he planned to be S of S, as we rolled our eyes. Most of his CV is a lie; no one has caught it, not even Univs he taught at. Similar bedfellows.
OT: we are talking about HRC, correct?
B
Hi Malty, so nice to hear from you. Sorry about your fall. I was getting worried and was just about to ask where the heck you were. Be careful out there!
I don’t live up there, but I do reside in OR.
ersonally from what I’ve read about Carole Smith, she should have fired long ago. Reiterating what Rose said, she should have been fired when it was apparent that PPS was allowing each school to decide among themselves what the hell their policies would be. C’mon people, what is the point of having county-wide rules if they are not enforced? If you are going to allow each school to determine which rules they will follow, then why would you need a school board or a superintendent in the first f’n place? Grrrrrr!
Sorry, dropped my P somewhere. Maybe because I’m P out of ideas.