Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview

New York, NY-  For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case.  Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.

Horman courtesy of People

Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions,  and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.

In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning,  Horman  maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.

“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”

“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”

Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.

“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent.  I want her to tell me where Kyron is.  If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”-  Desiree Young

“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date.  To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page

Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney,  Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.

Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview.  Um, What?

Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.

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4,701 Comments

  1. Rose says:

    @erose. he omits the internal family
    change: divorce & 2 remarriages.

  2. Rose says:

    @cd. thank you for correcting me on the signors.
    I do think Reese will want a splash prosecution this Fall, and Underhill’s
    office could use some PR as well. Maybe some drug dealor will get himself arrested.

  3. Rose says:

    the thing I got out of that petition cd is how many commenters served notice on Underhill-Staton
    they are villifying, threatening & terrorizing Terri Horman due to MCSO/MCDA’s own affirmative statements (the FAPA, & divorce case representations), thus continuing to make a case against mcso/da on Horman’s behalf.
    Indeed.
    B

  4. Rose says:

    Well, Roger’s twitter makes clear his interest is fixated on naked females, his appetites, & adoration of Trump,
    not lost boys. So much for bothering to revisit old lodge brothers.

  5. Rose says:

    Dec 2011: Sanford has one more Portland corruption book in him (1970s)
    http://www.neighborhoodnotes.com/news/2011/12/armchair_mayor_phil_stanford/

  6. Rose says:

    OT Could someone please alert Mayor Hales to this fine Riddell suit, wherein Marshman’s behavior (see items 5, 9, 17 and so on) absolutely disqualify him from any command staff imo. His star asset is he’ll change clothes and run with Reese.
    http://www.portlandmercury.com/images/blogimages/2014/04/23/1398305631-andrew_2.pdf
    And while we are at it, does the O star reporter do nothing but sit back and wait for some attorney to call with a story?
    All the story she needs is right in this suit if she could be bothered to learn a little something about Marshman.
    —-
    And if you ask me, but Kafoury hasn’t,
    this suit lays out a case for why Reese
    should not be appointed Sheriff on Aug 20.

  7. Rose says:

    OT see link to Complaint above.

    Surely Bernstein remembers reading it (or did she?).
    Maybe she wrote this story below just from chatting with a “source.”
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/04/portland_police_lieutenant_fil.html
    But does she firget her own stories so quickly?
    Anyone who’s read the complaint could reasonably believe both Marshman
    and Reese are unfit for command.
    Allegedly Reese is a favorite of Kafoury? One asks Why?

  8. Rose says:

    OT Davis is now the North Precinct Captn.
    Guess he was as close to O’Dea as to Reese.
    And with Marshman as Chief, he can only soar.

  9. Rose says:

    ot
    maybe Trump could take a leaf from Wyden’s bicoastal lifestyle and, if his convention delegates abandon him, practice for the Presidency by being a writein against Wheeler. He can renovate the Lake Oswego golf course, open a new hotel. casinos are near by. He can solve the homeless problem by sending them to Washington and building a fence. He might even mellow a bit with legal weed. And with MCSO & PPB so well-led, his misogeny will never shame him nor will criminal charges ever jeopardize him. But Kate would have to kiss her business tax goodbye. Not that all Oregon residents would need a high school education anyway when their Mayor can say all he knows on any subject in 140 characters.

  10. Rose says:

    Same old – at the Resort for male bonding:
    Reese, O’Dea, Marshman, Davis.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/07/portland_police_chief_said_he.html

  11. Rose says:

    Is Hales on medical marijuana? Marshman is no “shake up”
    at all. He’s Reese’s running buddy and accompanied the small group of white men
    Davis Reese O’Dea etc to sensitivity training, And supposedly Hales disliked Reese.
    which by Lt Andrews account he needed.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/06/portland_mayor_announces_shake.html#incart_river_mobile_home

  12. Rose says:

    dadgum “replaced by Marshman’s own picks.”
    Anyone want to lay bets on Captn Davis?
    I hope Riddell hasn’t settled Andrews’ suit. She’ll never get
    another promotion.

  13. Rose says:

    ot that’s it. Imo Bernstein is just a PR mouthpiece for whoever’s on top in government.

    “The assistant chiefs, as well as acting chief Henderson, were unaware of the mayor’s planned shakeup in the chief’s office when contacted by an Oregonian/OregonLive reporter on Sunday afternoon. They weren’t even aware of a planned news conference that the mayor’s officer had arranged for Monday morning, but the bureau spokesman was informed”

    This is not a shake up; Hales coukdn’t find a broom to clean if one leapt under his feet.
    And Marshman and/or O’Dea imo used her to do an
    end run around the Acting Chief & the 4 bodies he’s leaping over to get it
    out in public before they were informed by Hales or his staff. O’Dea knew. Marshman knew. Hales knew.
    So Bernstein knew. But as the Trib pointed out, she has not namec her Source,
    even Anonymous. The Command Staff did not. Here’s the problem with being a PR mouthpiece. You leave out
    the histories of these people, the interplay with Reese, the context, the investigative analysis and just become a
    barf machine.
    So Marshman is making North Prec. Commander Asst Chief, so Davis will promote up to No. Precinct Commander.
    Riddell should have asked for more money.

  14. Rose says:

    Did anyone notice, certainly not Bernstein imo, that the promoted cabal managed to get rid of Donna Henderson as Head of Investigations by making her Acting Chief for a couple weeks–which was a transition, or segue, to Siberia. I hope she goes to Riddell. Wonder who the Marshman will put in charge of Investigations now. With BFFs in charge of PPB and MCSO, the time is ripe for 70s style corruption because all the henhouses are owned by the same fox family system. Stanford needs to write a postmillemial book on crime management in the City. And this change all started with a DOJ suit. Thank you Obama.

    Why don’t you think Henderson will be chief?
    B

  15. Rose says:

    Such a joke the Davidson family and her surrogate
    Soldiers want any agency in Portland to investigate
    anything in my opinion.

  16. Rose says:

    I am one mad cookie today… at injustice.
    I speak of:

    http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2016/06/27/corruption-in-the-governors-office-u-s-supreme-court-reverses-virginia-conviction/

    Probably a tradeoff for the 5th man’s Texas abortion law’s burden byebyevote.
    —-
    So much for respecting a jury–which sat through ALL THAT–as the triers of fact. Roberts would say he’s writing on matters of law, but in reality he’s writing on the fact pattern, and saying he doesn’t see the facts the way the jury did or just doesn’t like the facts.
    —-
    Roberts:
    “He said that for prosecutors to prevail, they must identify a “question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding or controversy” that “may at any time be pending” or “may by law be brought” before a public official.

    Secondly, the government must prove that the public official made a decision or took an action “on” that question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding, or controversy, or agreed to do so, Roberts wrote.”
    —-
    That is an impossible prosecutorial hurdle. So Trump or Clinton and spouses may accept as much monetary benefit in the White House for themselves or their children as they want as long as prosecutors can’t prove a specific official act or pending decision was “influenced” by said monetary benefit.

    That very strict Roberts test does protect Roberts himself who golfs with lobbyists (who identify themselves as attorneys despite their employers) at the Chevy Chase Club. As far as I can tell, his relationships center on the Club and golfing, private Catholic school, and his parish. And of course fellow Catholics on the Court. I’m not agin Catholics. One of my family sides had a priest & unwed mother in every generation, and a Big Aunt Mary, little Aunt Mary, and Sister Mary.
    —–
    These wealthy McLean VA denizens undoubtedly “heard” a lot on the street as the O’Donnell case was charged and tried: Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia, Scooter Libby, Newt Gingrich, Anthony Kennedy

    why didn’t the Republican buddies of O’Donnell from wealthy McLean VA recuse themselves? Is it there but for the grace of God go I?
    —-
    Just to point out Chief Justice Burger lived in a humble home in Arlington VA surrounded by azaleas & gardens. Rehnquist too lived in Arlington where he notably often visited the local Video rental store if he wasn’t painting. Just like Bork.

    Roberts reminds me more of Kantor every term.

  17. Pansy says:

    okay – sounds reasonable. Just wondered.
    BTW, changed my name here because there were so many Roses.

    26. Rose says: June 26, 2016 at 12:54 pm
    @Pansy. not Blink who will speak for herself, but Imo Blink does nit divulge her readers, other than Soldier. She shows respect to bios. And there is nothing disclosed here that he does not already know firsthand. So why would he?

  18. Rose says:

    Blink. Are you suggesting Ted Wheeler will yo-yo
    Henderson back from whatever Siberia she’s being sent to with
    the rest of the current command staff
    and will remove Marshman and what will be
    Marshman’s new entrenched promotions?
    –Frankly Hales has screwed Wheeler more than Henderson.
    Who’s gonna reverse 5 promotions (Chief & the 4) AND their
    downstream promotion replacements in November? Wheeler’d have the whole
    darn PPB & its Union up in arms. And the 4 Hales-Marsh are sending to
    Siberia will sue as they should, for this precipitous effective demotion
    without a hearing or due process,, and there goes that already
    disasterous PPB budget. Why can’t the City Attorney Just Say No to these
    mismanagers?

    Was just a question, I have no info. I am told she is well respected.

    B

  19. Rose says:

    both he (& the girl 4 years later who imo resembled him)
    had a nexus with the same 7-11. http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/Tony-Franko-A-Cold-Case-That-Taught-Hard-Lessons-304493461.html

  20. Rose says:

    http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/06/27/mayor-charlie-hales-blames-trial-by-media-for-portland-police-chief-larry-odeas-retirement/
    Now does this Lean Cuisine look like someone who told Lt Rachel Andrews, Investigations, he wanted to change clothes in their shared office, just like he did with his previous (male) officemate, to Run With Chief Reese, although there was a hall bathroom very nearby?

  21. Rose says:

    Yes. Took away Chief of Investigations from the lady, and forced her into retirement rather than be demoted to Captn.
    “Donna Henderson, who was an assistant chief in charge of investigations until Mayor Charlie Hales named her an acting chief, is retiring, effective the end of the week.”
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/06/portlands_new_police_chief_mak.html

    She needs aMonday appointment with Riddell.
    Hales or O’Dea told Marshman, and Bernstein, but not his own Acting Chief thatshe was history! City’s legal problem is, Hales did not wait for her investigation to conclude & no due process before demotion. Some of these folks like Hales should be sued in their personal capacity in addition to the City or there will be no change in LE command misogeny.

    Iirc Rachel Andrews was in Investigations & working with Marshman when Davis-Reese committed her alleged violations.

  22. Rose says:

    Of course.
    “Chris Davis will be promoted from captain to commander and lead Central Precinct…..”
    Riddell really needed to go to trial on the Andrews pleadings.
    I don’t get why those 3 male Asst Chiefs are taking their demotions 2 levels (AC to Commdr to Cptn) laying down.
    As soon as the investigations clear them, they need to walk in Atty Kafoury’s door. Save Riddell for the ladies.

  23. Rose says:

    I see something new every time I look at Bernstein’s latest:
    “Cmdr. Sara Westbrook, now head of Central Precinct, will be moved to the Transit Police. ”
    Lady with a significant Command responsibility got the shaft to make way for Chris Davis to be promoted to her job.
    Chalk one more up for Riddell. Unfortunately Marshman did not consult the City Atty.
    And Bernstein & others asked no questions of Marshman
    at this pressor about Henderson, Westbrook, or due process.

  24. Rose says:

    While the petition asks for transparency from
    Reese (and it could as well go to Marshman too),
    both apparently leadership misogenists according to a
    past employee, it’s just
    a red herring distracting from a really effective writing: one directly from
    both bios asking for a joint briefing prior to demanding a transfer of jurisdiction
    to State Police. Don’t Jay & Kelly realize their sister needs to write
    and deliver personally to Reese for herself (with publicity)
    rather than hide behind strangers standing wherever
    the Sheriff’s office may be in August.

  25. cd says:

    Looks like DDS’s nutso supposed cousin is back to posting on SG’s WS Facebook.

    - snip

    Tom Jones Answer.

    Because Dede killed him FOR Terri……
    Everything Terri says…..supports it.
    Everything Dede has done….supports it.

    Political correctness hides Kyron.

    This comes down to what was in Terri’s and Dede’s minds at the time.
    Not how anyone else feels about it.

    Dede fully believed what Terri told her….and that is a fact not an opinion.

    Kyron is gone because Terri wanted him gone.
    Terri had to take many steps to achieve her goal of making him gone.
    Kyrons disappearance was premeditated…..over time…it was not spontaneous.

    ————–

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011735502013&fref=ufi&rc=p

    https://www.facebook.com/Kyron-Hormans-World-Soldiers-161645780592018/

    I am pretty sure those are reposts of some kind.

    Regardless- that cheese is off his cracker long ago.
    B

  26. Rose says:

    ot the Old Team
    https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/article/492458
    Capt Kelli he promoted up to Comdr East used to be Traffic.
    Another female Acting Captn Wendi lost out on
    leading Family Services (child abuse, domestic viol etc) to that
    former head of Internal Affairs in need of punishment Rodrigues.

  27. Rose says:

    Imo the document below is an example of an incident made public in the Oregonian revealing why Wendi Steinbronn former Acting Captn, Fam Serv, now sent gosh knows where (used to be a Supv in East P) and former Comdr Sara Westbrook of Central Precinct being replaced by GOB Chris Davis (she got fobbed off to transit police) got offloaded by MarshmanReese: they were and presumeably are allies of O’Dea’s former AC Bob Day.
    Day in this particular controversy did everything correctly & by the book. They allied with Day taking a stand against a certain Reese’s AC Hendrick who allegedly did not follow proper procedure but bent rules for political cronyism reasons & was allegedly untruthful with Day about votes he “had” on the PPB before it even met. Hendricks appears to have been Reese’s ally .
    If Reese chatted about personnel choices with Marshman, Reese appears to have a long vindictive memory. Next to last paragraph: how Day & Steinbronn sealed their post-O’Dea fates with Reese and his AC Hendricks. Maybe O’Dea was actually trying to clean up a Reese cronyism shop.
    With these PPB “factions,” a conspiracy theorist might joke O’Dea was deliberately taken to the wilderness, plied with drink, handed a malfunctioning gun, but instead of offing himself accidently, he shot the wrong guy.
    http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/PPCOA%20Concerns%20Letter-2-1.pdf
    —-
    It is no wonder the O team has “0″ interest in the competence, personnel, & outcomes of the Horman abduction investigation as they seem to take wverything happening internally in mcso & ppb at face value with a hands off approach.

  28. Rose says:

    I shoulda read this first:
    http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2016/06/27/18293559/hours-into-his-tenure-as-police-chief-mike-marshman-has-completely-restructured-police-bureau-leadership
    Vanderhart at least noticed the “minor swaps” in the Press Release. O just copied the PR.
    And he had one reference to an “internal politics” etiology, altho he like other reporters made no attempt
    to learn more about, source & report on Marshman’s actions as a bearer of the weight of internal politics.

  29. Rose says:

    imo in retrospect, newly-installed Chief Reese not taking jurisdictional
    control over the school-crime scene reflected
    Adamsian (Mayoral) preferences.

  30. Rose says:

    http://www.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2014/12/11/new-police-chief-promising-a-more-diverse-command-staff-promotes-senior-black-officer
    demoted AC Crebs was a Reese holdover.
    demoted AC Modica, hay made by PPB over his black race, was in an O’Dea-created position eliminated by Marshman. These 2 and Westbrook have 30 yrs or more in. I predict retirements.

  31. Rose says:

    In looking at PPB personnel shifts cross refercing with Kyron, one sees a Mary What, PIO fir PPB in 6/10 stated in excerpts on various boards that the case had been turned over to mcso. But when one clicks the press articke being quoted & excepted, it’s page not found.
    However one wonders why she has not risen higher, & perhaps it was becauseSizer first promoted her, so she had no cachet with Reese. Hiwever, she did get a real political plum in Oct 2011–The one and only LE seat appointee for the Whole State of Oregon to the Lottery Board, which must be prestigious and remunerative. Initially appointed by Kitz, second term by Brown.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-wheat-00182a8
    She went on to Cold Case Homicide, & to Child Abuse.
    On the Lottery Board, she got into it with Roberts for
    allegedly investigating privately, with one other Board lady,
    an Iranian American prominent employee of Roberts.
    Roberts rebuked his Board soundly for interfering with his
    employees of another ethnic etiology in private snooping.
    …which led to his firing after he tangled with none other than H Moawad.
    Their communications are on line. Apparently The Lottery and its management and the
    Board appointees are part of her Public Safety position advising Kitz-Brown. Label
    Moawad politically powerful then due to the Lottery’s import to the State budget.
    Anyway, also online, Wheat appears with Adams premiering and discussing a PPS video
    made by LGBTQ Officers. I figure the Oct 2011 appointment to the LE seat on the Lottery is
    some kind of political reward Kitz was opportuned for, but goodness knows what.

  32. Rose says:

    not M What, but Wheat.

  33. Rose says:

    @Blink some PPB employee calling himself Scott in O Comments, who worked under/for Henderson, commented on O yesterday saying she was very nice but couldn’t manage squat. She planned to retire in 2 months, it’s obviously wht the opportunistic Hales chose her as the sacrificial Acting Chief to make her easier to get rid of. God help Hales if he’d made the black AC Acting then jettisoned him for Shea’s husband.

  34. Rose says:

    @Blink. You said this in your summation of “multiple witness accounts.”
    “He must’ve been standing behind me……
    They walked out of the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again.”

    what does never saw THEM again mean, if the man who spoke
    was standing BEHIND the witness? If the witness never saw him in the
    first place how would the witness know if (s)he saw him again that morning?

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-1/#comments

    I did not say the witness did not see SZ.
    B

  35. T. Ruth says:

    Isn’t it weird that WS site is directing a petition to MCSO And MCDA with this question on it:

    “2. Where, what time and by whom was Kyron last seen?”

    Desiree repeatedly insists he was last seen by Terri Horman and that they left that school together. Do they no longer believe her? Do they no longer believe LE, who has repeatedly claimed the same thing albeit adding the words “known person”? Do they perhaps believe they have been lied to by DY or maybe they believe LE has lied to DY?

    Who on earth is a source “close to the investigation” that is communicating with SG saying KH’s property was never searched by cadaver dogs? DY? TY? And why would DY not be informed by MCSO if they were still conducting searches?

    There are five questions on this petition, seems to me DY would already have the answers to all but one of them, this one:

    3. In recent news, Terri Horman has been speaking out about the investigation. In light of her new willingness to speak out now, has she been re-interviewed by detectives?

    And what difference would it make to any of us who are looking for Kyron and wanting answers to his disappearance whether or not TMH was being or ever was re-interviewed by LE? None. Why do they want to know that? The contents of said interview would never be released to the public anyhow.

    What an odd petition. If KH & DY don’t have the other four answers, then there is a reason.

    How is that going to help find Kyron? The only question that makes sense is the first one, but if KH already has that information, why doesn’t DY? Were they both told about the man in Mathews room, but were they not even given his description?

    What exactly is it they’re trying to achieve with this petition? IDK

    https://www.change.org/p/multnomah-county-sheriff-s-office-please-don-t-let-the-investigation-into-the-disappearance-of-kyron-horman-go-cold#delivered-to

  36. T. Ruth says:

    http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2016/06/27/18293559/hours-into-his-tenure-as-police-chief-mike-marshman-has-completely-restructured-police-bureau-leadership

    Just me, but the O needs to step up to this ^^ plate.

    Who was in the position being eliminated here and where did he/she get reasssigned?:

    Marshman is reassigning assistant chiefs Bob Day, Kevin Modica, and Mike Crebs—demoting each to captain and cutting their pay. He’s eliminating a fourth assistant chief position.

    (P.S. Thanks for your diligence Rose.) Does it say somewhere or did I just miss it?

  37. T. Ruth says:

    @Pansy

    So who were you before you blossomed out as Pansy?

    RedRose.
    And I was remiss in not stating I had approved that change, thanks for asking that T.Ruth
    B

  38. Rose says:

    Perhaps of interest to MBS.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/06/police_chief_larry_odea_faced.html#incart_2box

    “Weatheroy makes $152,208 when hired. Not including benefits. Not a bad gig. Interesting to see how this thing unravels…..
    and
     How does an unpaid internship blossom into a chief-of-staff position, then Director of one of the city’s largest Bureau’s? ”

    —–
    State of Oregon: Media Room – Public Records Log – Oregon.gov
    Oregon.gov (.gov) › gov › media › Pages
    Kate Brown’s calendar for May 2016 including attachments. …. Simmons, Roland Iparraguirre, Kristen Leonard, MardiLyn Saathoff, Chris Telfer, Raul Valdivia, Mary Wheat, Liz Carle, and Barry Pack. .

    the above google output connected me to several months of records requests of the Gov’s office.
    Interestingly, when month’s commence, different reporters ask for the Gov’s prior month’s calendar. Which is very boring, not the least because 95% of it is blacked out. The rest just shows a low energy level imo.

    the blurb above relates to an early April Jacquiss request for any and all Lottery email. We know Brown fired Roberts. Moawad was on the outs with him. Iparraguirre was the mgr Roberts was investigating due to a staff complaint, and Wheat & Parle were the 2 Board members trying to privately investigate one of his promotions of middle eastern ethnic heritage.
    Jacquiss’ cache was 2100 pp, too much for me.
    —-
    trying to figure out how Kyron’s fulltime year 1 ADA got herself embedded in a plum position with 2 Govs, and why the PPB 2010 PIO scored the only LE Lottery Board seat the next year.

  39. T. Ruth says:

    O/T, sorta’

    http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/cold-case-spotlight/sunday-marks-7-years-washington-girl-lindsey-baum-s-mysterious-n599316

    I was going to post this article on Blink’s Lindsey Baum case, but I now see there isn’t one, so I’ll just post it here. I have always wondered if LE may think there is some possible connection between Kyron’s and Lindsey’s cases, because Lindsey is the only other child KH has bothered to sponsor on his website.

  40. Rose says:

    Well, you know, I may go for permission to be Solomon’s Seal, one of my beloved perennials.
    Imo Terri was the one who went for her baby’s preservation while Father readily excised Baby’s bridges relationships.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Solomon
    Kantor was no Solomon.

  41. Rose says:

    @TRuth. the person in that position was the token black man
    Modica who has WAY over 30 yrs so will retire gracefully imo.
    Probably a gentleman of the old school.

    Marshman’s PC verbiage in eliminatingodica’s
    Community job is I’m gonna do all that
    community relations stuff embedded thruout.

    In his corner is the Diversity Queen Weatheroy.
    She is making a salary with
    benefits no other PSU MSW will get in any agency
    of any kind imo, even PPS.
    And her nonprofit (but really for profit)
    school job for ld/em in the Baltimore area would be one as a Govt employee I myself
    would never enroll a kid under my aegis (ie foster care) in,

  42. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    June 28, 2016 at 10:53 pm
    Perhaps of interest to MBS.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/06/police_chief_larry_odea_faced.html#incart_2box

    @Rose – Based on my knowledge and many years of experience in the same neighborhood but without personally knowing either of the 2 parties discussed in the article, my educated guess is (1) either the comments in question were misunderstood or misrepresented by the person making the complaint, or (2) the person who made them did not have adequate experience and female African American role models and mentors (for her job) or if she did, did not learn what she needed to know about consistent professional conduct in spite of her own cultural biases.

    The content of the comments that I have heard reported so far did not surprise me at all. The lack of verbal restraint in a professional setting did surprise me in the context of that particular family.

    I don’t want to start a global discussion about discrimination within different cultures, etc., because I’m only speaking from what I know after about 25 years in my little corner of the world that is being discussed.

    Thanks, Rose- I did find it interesting. IMO, high salaries should be for high levels of professionalism and personal skills in addition to whatever your actual job is about, and should lead employees to feel safe with their managers and administrators. It takes a lot of courage to say when you aren’t feeling safe – I should have sued PPS once, but I would have had to involve innocent people and been unable to keep working in a place I loved, so my friends who were witnesses helped me and it worked out OK.

  43. Rose says:

    @MBS. I just thot you’d have human interest in the sib of respected officers. Hadn’t read comments & just did so. Theme seems to be nepotism. What we have learned thru backgrounding the Horman case is the heads of mcso/ppb have been self-interested and without management ability for decades (cf Guisto interviews). This has lead to dysfunctional internal cultures where promotions & assignments bear no resemblance to training or ability. And bad apples act out without fear of accountability. For example, Marshman apparently promoted a favorite to head East Precinct by moving the well-suited man there “down” to head “Detectives” tho he had no background in that Unit. We’ve seen hiw often River Patrol Supervisors, and those who rose thru RP ranks, have been made head of Investigations, or investigators, in mcso. To me the bios’ only hope in the County for a professional investigation was State Police.
    —-
    The PI’s complaint of workplace harassment matters only because it shows the entrenched culture of “ignore personnel problems” in PPB and that it came from the top.
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    This lady’s credentials suggests she woukd’ve been lucky to be hired for a job in her professional field in any State or local govt OR setting. The real investigation shoukd be whether the Diversity job was advertised, were vets given civil service pref, and so on.
    —–
    I worked in a Federal job in a generally all black environment as a very rare white employee. I will say in an urban setting among native-born blacks (ie not Southern migrants), there was no greater sin than marrying a white, and it generated ongoing workplace harassment to targets (sniping) not overtly tied to the marriage. ie I saw a fine black male Harvard MD/MBA driven to transfer out. It also impacted my supervisor (black make/white wife as well). While the MD’s marriage to a white was mentioned to him, the harrassment by a nurse supervisor took other forms. Imo in workplace cultures in cities like that inner city Baltimore work experience, such race-based workplace harassment of a minority who interracially married is not unusual but typical. I’m sure it cuts both ways with races on the intermarriage thing, but workplace harrassment due to it (constant needling about other work-related matters) is real. I suspect the real issue, if harassment occurred, was the PI’s own race combined with her gender.

  44. Rose says:

    OT
    Jacquiss is finally plowing thru those 2100 Lottery emails to and from the Gov’s Office:
    http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/06/28/a-maltese-company-wants-overseas-players-to-buy-millions-of-oregon-lottery-tickets/
    It seems PPB officer Wheat and her Board ally Carle had more up their sleeves than privately investigating Roberts’ promoted (sales) Iranian American employee, or protecting the employee Roberts was having investigated for workplace harassment. I assumed Roberts was fired for his proposal to charge high volume sellors a bit more than low volume businesses, with apparently didn’t sit well with Heidi and the Gov she advises on the lottery.

    But it seems Jacquiss found the potential cut into hi volume sellors’ profits was way bigger than that and involved opening the marketplace (which serves as an indirect tax to fund State govt on Oregonians who play) to internationals.
    The underlying theme is a Lottery Director who ran it as a business for the State coming up against the business interests and political power of high volume sellors likely in Multnomah. So, looking for who was behind plucking Wheat from the lower ranks of PPB for the Lottery LE seat, and did the same County interests bring Kyron’s ADA attorney on to advise the Gov on State Public Safety, which under Brown apparently includes the Lottery, I found a map distinguishing high volume sellors. Jacquiss needs to task a high school intern with identifying Muktnomah high volume sellors who woukd’ve been charged more under Roberts, who would be very against international cis. on their playing field, then identifying their ownerships, and looking for political influence (ie campaign donors). (Btw, Bottoms Up does good lottery business.)

    http://projects.oregonlive.com/maps/lottery/

  45. Rose says:

    OT that interactive lottery sellors’ map orients out of towners to Skyline surrounds. ie in addition
    to Bottoms Up, there’s a Skyline Tavern. It seems Varsity Bar (G Anderson) is in Scappose where Marshmans live,
    and a MX restaurant is in Scappose too. kind of a nice map. Seems this stuff is mostly sold by Bars and
    clubs like Elks or American Legion.

  46. Rose says:

    on the Varsity Bar FB, GA throws his arm with a big grin around a
    variety of men, so that happy hug of Kaine didn’t even nean he knew him imo.

  47. Rose says:

    It is interesting Jacquiss’ Wed story on the Lottery the Maltese Co and the Gov Office emails never published on WW’s openkng lineup. It does not even appear when you click (upper left) News State or News Business. I stumbled on it by googling Oregon Lottery and something cold. Looks like someone in the Governor’s Office still has cachet with a WW editor or owner.

  48. thatkewlgirl says:

    thatkewlgirl says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    June 24, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    Still in moderation?

    TKG- with much respect, I cant moderate other sites and therefore do not feel it appropriate to get into their practices here.
    B

  49. T. Ruth says:

    Honestly in this day and age, why would anyone be asking someone WHY they married outside their race? Firstly, what the hell business is it of theirs? None. Who gives a damn who is married to who and why? If any of my bosses had ever asked me why I married someone, I’d pretty much tell them it’s none of their damn business. Either that or I’d simply throw the question back to them, “Uhhhm, let’s see, because I love him, so why did you marry your spouse?” End of story.

    Geeze, what a stupid thing to ask someone. O’Dea should have taken care of that situation immediately. Where are people’s brains?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/06/police_chief_larry_odea_faced.html#incart_2box

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