Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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T. Ruth says:
December 6, 2016 at 11:29 am
I am not able to upload a copy of the stipulation at the moment, but I am positive it is in “F”: Respondent agrees not to purchase or possess any firearms or ammunition.
B
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You are correct (as usual) it IS there in the stipulated custody agreement. It is “F”, one of the last items, I don’t know how I missed it. (think I searched the document for firearms and it didn’t come up, weird)
It says “Respondent agrees not to purchase or possess any firearms or ammunition”.
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No matter how she attained possession of the firearm, I assume that means she is in violation of the custody agreement, and there goes any chances to see her daughter. Is that correct?
Lol, I can “rainman” on facts like crazy- if I could only harness it for effectiveness
The legal issue for her in gun ownership (still subject to possession as passed by a relative if that was the case) could only come into play if the civil stipulation was entered into CA as a foreign decree and the only way that is happening is if TH moved to do so as her dau primary residence is in OR. I do not intend to discuss how that stipulation plays out in OR because right now, that is not at issue here and will not be regardless.
The custody stipulation is maintained in jurisdiction by State only so if there is a document that says she agrees not to own or possess something in OR (it does) it is not reciprocal to any other State without a court order for that jurisdiction. In other words, it would not preclude her from ownership or possession in CA- but it would certainly invite the possibility for a possible contempt motion if that was a parties agenda.
I am wondering if the complainant has some issues wrt the firearm transfer or loaning as the registered owner?
B
V ery enlightening:
“….TMH agreement in a custody stipulation which is
not entered as a foreign decree in CA has no bearing here.
It is not even enforceable in CA as a criminal issue.”
@SPV. Terri and her family are REAL victims: of the abductor of her son and their former step-relative; of Kaine,
of specific employees and retirees in mcso and mcso,and even dea, of 3 judges all 3 not following standardized judicial procedures, both Youngs, the Oregon media which publishes false facts and fact news heedlessly, Soldier and her cauldron, and random strangers throughout the world. I’m sure thereare others I forget.
How does one steal from a secure safe?
Or take it to an LE interview if stolen?
@erose says:
December 6, 2016 at 4:10 am
That’s the way I first read the O story too, but no, that’s just a poorly written statement.
“According to Yuba County Sheriff’s Department crime analyst, Leslie Carbah, Horman’s roommate reported in August of 2015 that he believed she had stolen a gun from his gun safe.”
Had it been written this way, it would have been more clear:
According to Leslie Carbah, a crime analyst for the Yuba County Sheriff’s Department, Horman’s roommate had reported in August of 2015 that he believed she had stolen a gun from his gun safe.
Soldier has a post by desiree davidson young calling for folks to hector her law enforcement team and demand the DA charge Terri for”all” the MFH plots, Kyron, and the stolen gun. How she thinks MDCA could charge Terri for a misdemeanor complaint in CA is beyond me. And the first itms shows she’s not tethered to reality even if the second item is true.
I don’t think the Marysville DA believes in his case because he set the value just below $1,000. Imo if he thought she was guilty, he’d value it in felony range to induce a lessor plea.
Prop 47 wont allow it- and I don’t know if you have had any time to research Richards at all- but :
https://www.saf.org/saf-calguns-score-ninth-circuit-victory-in-richards-carry-case/
Atty Richards knows his way around the issue it would seem.
B
look at 2.0 and 3.2
http://www.shouselaw.com/grand-theft.html#3.1
apparently theft of an item less than $951 after 11/14 = a misdemeanor
UNLESS it was a firearm. This is the only valuable household item RM could allege she took
valued under $951 and have it treated as a felony. And imo theRM researchedthis statute before
he made the pokice complaint because the $950 valuation on his part was not random. Imo this feels
like a makicious preplanned entrapment.
I don’t believe you can be arrested for violating your divorce decree/custody stipulation probably you would just lose your right to visit your child. There was a restraining order but that was dropped. Since the divorce restraining orders etc were in Oregon I don’t know how much that would mean in Calif.
Since the gun was locked in a gun safe of the roommate then TH must have known the combination in order to get the gun. It’s not like she broke into the house in the middle of the night and stole it. That TH is pleading innocent to the theft charge tells me there is much more to this story.
There have been a lot of violent threats against TH posted on the WS Facebook. Maybe someone was able to locate start threatening her and stalking to the point TH was worried for her life. I know the whole point of SG’s Facebook is to ruin TH’s life up to and including suggesting physical violence.
There are a lot of crazy people out there any one of them could have believed some paranoid fantasy that compelled them to harm TH. This is one reasons why the Facebook/Hatebook pages are such a bad idea however titillating posting hate messages is to the posters who seem to have nothing better to do with their time.
I would like to hear the whole story before a I formulate any opinion. I think there must be something going on here we have no idea of.
boy did she (or Houze) pick the rightattorney
http://www.rwslaw.com/attorneys/attorneys-2/
I just did, then read yr comment.
You’re always out front on all sides of an issue.
thanks.
I just hope Richards thinks nefarious
enough to understand Kaine and the
Youngs MOs and possible associates involvement.
His tendency woukd be not to go to
trial. There is value in deposing RM imo.
I bet Kristen’s 2 area LE sibs had their share of undercover informants to tap as well.
I rule nothing out as entrapments by stalker vendetta-istas.
I hope the defendants in the Richards case will accept the ruling without further legal effort.
It appears that all up and down the West Coast some LE agencies think they can make law by being stubborn. Sheriffs and others deciding that the second amendment is something they do not have to follow.
Desiree’s workdwide soldiers have been asked by Soldier to write the Judge and DA, publishing all contact info and she is contacting all Sacramento media to come see her merry band march in at 1:30 12/16.
with sending a copy of the custody Stip too to prove she cant have a gun, but imo the real motive is to get the incriminating Stip before Judge’s nose. Thus making Terri’s defense case for her need for protection because the crazies in writing are, well, crazy.
I have to admit that when I allow myself a moment of levity, I get it there. It is like a sociology experiment for modern day Salem. Yet, it never occurs to anyone such behavior is absolutely serving Terri’s defense tenfold. Can at least one of them ever accomplish basic legal research, ever?
B
@Blink. I bet you knew the answer to that one.
You answered what was RM’s motivation if not entrapment?
Actually RM committed a crime on loaning the gun if the loan lasted over 30 days.
He had to go thru a registered arms dealor to transfer or loan to Terri.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1511
His only way out was to put in writing in a police report she stole it from his secure safe.
I am salivating for Richards to get him under oath in a deposition.
Too bad the Find Kyron First statement never caught on… it could have really made a difference if only that had been the focus instead of ‘she did it’…
Anyone who judges TH’s actions without having walked in her shoes, with the stalkers, the relentless accusations, the ongoing witch hunt… just needs to stop and remember there is a young man (now) who is still missing… He needs to be found.
Terri has done plenty if damage to herself in the interim, some she’s been caught for doing, others remain hidden… but it’s just a side show. I used to wish they’d find Kyron sitting in that blue-haired lady’s basement, with chicken nuggets on the tv tray, and cartoons playing on the B/W tv… but I’ve lost hope… I just don’t think anyone that can make a difference even cares any more… If Kyron is still alive, he’s going to have to ‘escape’ whatever befell him on his own. Poor thing…
Will we ever Find Kyron First?
Don’t tell me Terri for a police interview AGAIN without an attorney present!
mini-rant: Are there no real reporters any more? Are any real articles just buried beneath the piles of crap? There is so much repetitive junk out there that I can’t find an actual original article on the gun charge. They are all either entirely repetitive or “creatively” altered. Clearly, they don’t even know or care how to look up the court records, as they had all of the dates incorrect, etc.
Anyway, I don’t care much. Continued bad judgment is neither surprising nor indicative of deliberately/directly harming a child.
So I guess you saw my comment indicating a similar lack of ethics, lol. Really disappointing the void of actual journalists there (outside of WW who really is not covering it).
B
ANYWAY, my current question is that the court records show that a “no probable cause” was filed in the original gun theft charge on 9/8/15, followed by the notice to appear on 9/28/15. Could/would you explain?
I can ONLY go by what the court records say- they are believed to be true and correct. I apologize in advance if it appears I vomit on you but from what I can tell (subject to revision upon updated info)
Complaint Filed 8/23/15 contained 2 counts as the current is labeled 002 or:
002 PC487(d)(2)- M -Grand Theft-Firearm 487(d)(2) Misdemeanor 08/23/2015
Charge #
002
And then:
09/09/2015 No Probable Cause Filed
09/09/2015 New Case Complaint Filed
I don’t know yet if 8/23/15 is the police report intake, which results in filing charges on 9/9, but in one of the alleged charges (001) there was no probable cause and a new charge was filed. I would need the supporting court record and reports to say with certainty. I could come up with a few scenarios on how this might happen, but I don’t want to speculate unnecessarily.
A Notice to Appear is Issued on 9/28/15 – In several of the accounts, it says Horman was located and the firearm was in her possession. We can deduce that was not on the speeding ticket in Sacramento, so the assumption is she was located in some manner, discussed allegation (maybe) between 9/9 and 9/28/15 and a summons (NTA) was sent. I do not have any independent information, so based on the chronology I am going to guess Terri was never aware of, or served appropriately as to any of the summons/mda through 11/17/15 in Yuba County. I certainly am interested in knowing if she was actually noticed properly or was the roomie address used? Obvs, I can see a great potential of problems if that was the case.
11/17/15 court date occurs- failure to appear is issued as are warrants. It actually says TH was there, I believe that was absentia but it does not indicate any LE or the complainant.
11/17/15- 7/4/16 Yuba does not seek to issue outside county warrant (how was she notified?) Speeding stop shows warrants so they are required to arrest-transferred booked and bonded Yuba. My guess is at this juncture she learns about allegation, tells investigators she has firearm and that it was definitely not stolen. Follow up was pro se and continued to retain Richards and enter plea.
One can absolutely end up with a FTA from an undelivered summons in a different county- and unless the county checks with the issuing county- they may not even know what the warrant is for.
B
@Lizzy re “Continued bad judgment is neither surprising nor indicative of deliberately/directly harming a child.” I’m with you, only it seems in this case the bad jusgment was the temporary RM choice when she moved to CA, not the gun possession. One would not expect her to know the “loan laws” or even that such a statute exists. imo he covered himself at her expense.
Remember Kyle’s source is Desiree period, and yes the rest copied him. That’s Oregon journalism.
Tge election inspired my dutigal subscriptions to 3 media. Since I googke trump morning noon and night these days, I am finally getting an ipad 12/18 (@10% off!). Today I tried to set up twitter as I regularly read Kurt David and John journalists. I succeeded, and followed them. But I still can’t figure out how to make their tweet streams show up. Anyway, Oregonians mistly have to subscribe elsewhere imo. It took K Sordyl on her Parents for Orincipaks site to reveal the names of the PPS Hiring Committe on that Fl attorney. I bet even the BoE didnt kniw.
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@ ATG. many County Sheriffs are like that all over the country, regions just have different issues. AZ comes to mind.
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Find Kyron First? When that is the bios’ published advocacy objective, it will be LE’s.
Right now mcso is doing exactly what Desiree wants: fixate on Charge Terri First.
So is Soldier–marching to Desiree’s Fife and Drums.
She is so NOT about finding the male abductor her motivation for C T F is in question to me.
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Whatever one thinks about one Horman’s continued bad judgement, ditto as to the other former spouse, only his was worst because he put kiara in that woman’s mothering care after all kiara’s lisses, then showed that “mother” the door too.
the ONLY explanation for WW ceasing all coverage is the OR
DOJ investigators (and we know 2 are gone-lack of ethics)
have played some role in the criminal investigation.
to think I initially bought the
complaint that it was stolen,
without reflection.
wrt “Can at least one of them ever accomplish basic legal research, ever?”
The Queen of that manure pile is now Desiree who has asked her followers to write the DA
pleading he charge Terri for gun possession in CA under an OR custody stipulation, which is civil and not criminal even if it applied and it doesn’t. .You’d think Tony could splain her the basics.
she’s reminding me emotionally of the new King of False Facts.
You would think. I would also not advertise that the DA will not deal with her directly at all.
Maddening
B
OT
Nov 30 has the list of the PPS leadership on the Attorney hiring committee.
All a joke as he was the one departed-with-Carol attorney Jolene solicited and promoted.
https://m.facebook.com/ParentsForExcellentPortlandPrincipals/
@mbs. one wonders what a principal “well matched to a school” means?
Sounds racial and ethnic to me, like pay raises are
necessary to get induce able minority principal hires.
I miss NelMel’s pasta and
Malty’s wielding of her able ipad.
Yup.
B
I should have known better. Sometimes I think it intentional as it can stir controversy in the comment section.
T. Ruth says:
December 6, 2016 at 1:27 pm
@erose says:
December 6, 2016 at 4:10 am
snip>
That’s the way I first read the O story too, but no, that’s just a poorly written statement.
Regarding the gun theft charge:
Suppose that TH was given the gun for her self protection. The guy with the gun safe is not likely to have shared the combination. TH moved out with the gun in her possession.
Guy friend didn’t like the fact that she moved out. Knowing she still had the gun, he goes down and files theft charges building a false story for LE. Now she has to defend herself in court. She cannot work in her chosen field so her employment does not provide funds to afford legal help. The case may end up as he said she said. Maybe one of the legal aid societies can come to her aid.
The stipulation in the divorce settlement about not to buy or have possession of a firearm or ammunition is pure BS. I’ll bet LE did not go out and search Kaine’s home for firearms or ammunition. If they didn’t, then the stipulation is one sided. Leaving him with his weapons and ammunition and TH with nothing. She is entitled to have the means for self protection under the second amendment.
I cant question why an Atty let that firearm clause in as stated without knowing the logic, but I do agree with you it was not a bilateral clause and I don’t agree with it at all.
B
wrt lizzy says:
December 6, 2016 at 3:59 pm
Kudos to lizzy for research and blink for explication.
I am so overloaded brainfart wise I’m not reading just yet.
Seeing it in a few hours. TY for yr work.
It is unfortunate kyron had 2 parents with
one of Pooh type (very little) brain and
one of too much brain turned to ego interests.
I always said there were those with potential Borderline
features in this mix, were one in a
treatment/assessment primary position,
rendering kyron vulnerable,
and I still count three plus various soldiers.
T.Ruth
O/T
I found a web site that is loaded with good information about music theory. The files are in .pdf format so that your existing reader will work. The site is LearnMusicTheory.net. There are thirty small files for the beginning section that make up a book. There are quality illustrations for the text. This is a comprehensive site taking one from the beginning to very advanced musical concepts. The only thing I found not to be there is the standards for written notation.
Rose can pass this to her daughter as well.
ok I kinda skimmed Blink despite my
emo overload from the CA laws and her resultant charge.
and her stupidity I must say. in once again going pro se.
wrt charges Blink recites:
WRT 002 PC487(d)(2)- M -Grand Theft-Firearm
487(d)(2) Misdemeanor 08/23/2015
The mere fact the $950 was a firearm moves her from a
misdeameanor to a Grand Theft (felony) charge.
So duh DA adds a lessor included
secondary misdemeanor charge to get that plea into door no 2.
One hopes Richards does not walk thru that
misdemeanor door plea, but Terri may deserve it
if only for stupidity.!
And imo Desiree is so misguided
and yes irrelevant to her son on these matters,
god help kyron because she can’t.
ATG. I waa grateful and eager on reading yr entry
to send to dau before I even saw your last sentence
recommending same.
Of course! And I a nonmusician will study it too.
She just applied MM to conservatories.
Written not aural music theory remains a challenge
because whether letters or notes,
dyslexics have written reading issues. altho i suspect she is fae.
i am SO MAD at the destabilization of Asia (her minor is in Asian Studies)
and what it may mean for adoptive families.
Rose says:
December 6, 2016 at 1:37 pm
Soldier has a post by desiree davidson young calling for folks to hector her law enforcement team and demand the DA charge Terri for”all” the MFH plots
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One would think that by now Desiree would have realized if there had been even 1 MFH plot TH could have been charged with MCSO would have been compelled to charge her at the time they were able to prove it. So charges for 6+ year old supposed multiple MFH plots what is DY drinking these days. Who tells DY this stuff or does she just make it up on her own.
After 2 gjs.
I don’t see how she can believe it herself.
B
wrt “I cant question why an Atty let that firearm clause in as stated without knowing the logic, but I do agree with you it was not a bilateral clause and I don’t agree with it at all.”
Well we know he was in such a hurry to get a Stip he overlooked a major drafting error.
He had a one man shop and should have gone to trial rather than stip had he the capability and office resources and she the money.
I always felt it a ground zero stip.
TKG. You said she had misteps known and hidden.
adopting the 16 yos ape of the Donald. So Sad.
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this humiliation pile on does not help.
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She cannot escape Desiree and Kaine baggage by her current
path.
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imo she might return to mom and
dad and enjoy what she can til they pass.
My advice is look for the humblest Federal or
State job, in ANY agency, say entry level file clerk,
because no way can stalkers get
one fired from a govt job.
I got ya Rose
B
@atg. wrt “I’ll bet LE did not go out and search Kaine’s home for firearms or ammunition.”
He had 2 guns anyway. Original plus his Xmas present to self per kristen’s progeny # 2.
KM’s dau 2 complained on twitter when he got himself a new gun
for Xmas she once again had to endure his lessons. which made me
wonder did he teach a shooting posture with his arms around his teen instructee?
re “11/17/15 court date occurs- failure to appear is issued as are warrants. It actually says TH was there, I believe that was absentia but it does not indicate any LE or the complainant.”
Neither the Complaintant nor
Report-taking LE appeared?
Very odd.
i suspect maryville crim calendar is a mess.
ot
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/were-going-to-put-a-bullet-in-your-head-pizzagate-threats-terrorize-dc-shop-owners/2016/12/05/39469a82-bb2e-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?client=safari
I find this so upsetting. And it is just like Soldier’s crusade.
If these professional business owners can’t withstand constant threats, why should Terri standing alone do so? That Trump won’t go out and defend these businesses near his new home from fabrications, led by his nsa dir’s son and imo that apple listens to and parrots his tree, well the grandkids kushner will be local pariahs.
Rose
We don’t know the type of firearm or its make. $950.00 is an expensive hand gun. I doubt the real price is anywhere near that figure and it should be challenged at a hearing.
It is not. It is the monetary cut off as to whether it would be charged as a felony v misdemeanor.
B
Rose says:
December 6, 2016 at 5:52 pm
https://m.facebook.com/ParentsForExcellentPortlandPrincipals/
@mbs. one wonders what a principal “well matched to a school” means?
Sounds racial and ethnic to me, like pay raises are necessary to get induce able minority principal hires.
@Rose – I followed your link and found these 2 comments:
Joe Keefer
Lol, only if they make them all go through a rehiring process, and not rehire the weak ones.
Like • 6 • Reply • Report • Today at 7:40am
Doc Susan
Close reading shows only $600,000 would go toward principals and vice principals. The rest of the $2.3mm would go to BESC admin. I call BS
I agree with how it sounds and it’s true that there is a lot of competition in seeking
diversity in hiring – and competition often means higher salaries – but it isn’t only that. Communities want leaders they can communicate with and whose skills they respect and whose programs they understand. Parents don’t want to be parented, they want to be partners, they want the staff to engage children in their own learning, and if they don’t have hope in what you plan, they aren’t going to help. Diversity in your staff is important, but not a solution to every problem.
When I was hired, I was given a scenario about a teacher, student, and parents who were having problems with each other and asked what I would do. After I gave my answer, the district interviewer said, “Thanks. I’ve been having that problem with my son and I appreciate your answer.” Then my name was given to a high school and I was interviewed by a V.P. and Dept. Chair who said, “What makes you think you can successfully work at THIS school?” They hired me for a part time position. The second day on the job, they said we want you to meet with these 6 African American and Asian kids who got in a fight and are returning tomorrow after suspension – and make sure everything stays calm. I was clueless! I ran to the school library, found the book, “Black and White Styles in Conflict”, read it and went in the next day not knowing if I’d have a job by the end of the week. I got the kids to see one group overreacted to the body language and comments of the other group, but both sides had the responsibility for what happened. They talked for an hour and a half about their differences and what they could respectfully do about them. (The Asian kids saw the others as seriously threatening to hurt them so they used a kickboxing move and broke one of the other kid’s jaws. The African American kids talked to each other that way every day and knew their own signals for when it was getting out of hand, so they were shocked at how it was interpreted.) I kept my job, and I appreciated every one of those kids because they were willing to listen to each other and work it out.
My experiences tell me –
Most people in charge of the district hiring had no idea what it was like to do those jobs, from custodian to superintendent, and no evidence of any helpful training, but they collected some big salaries. What they needed for principals was evidence they had the skills to meet the needs of a particular school (they are not all the same) and the willingness to listen and communicate with respect. They did not check the backgrounds thoroughly – employers can’t pass along a lot of detail now, but you can (I did) get a lot of information by researching on your own. If I had to point to one long term weakness of PPS, it would be hiring and realistically matching people to the right positions.
Here’s one report from Chicago that talks about hiring and turnover issues:
“A well-matched principal fosters positive school culture and supports high-quality teaching and learning in every classroom. A less-successful match can exacerbate the dips in school achievement that often accompany a principal transition.”
http://thefundchicago.org/rightmatch/
The Right Match: A Strong Principal in Every Public School
2016 School Leadership Report
Rose
If KH was teaching basic shooting posture(two hands),he had to either demonstrate or get behind the student to make corrections.
O/T
I am glad that you too will take a look at the referenced music material. Dyslexia can be overcome by developing an understanding of rhythm patterns. This material can be developed by you and your daughter. A counting system is given and explained in the material.
o/t: thank you for your kind musical contributions. If you don’t blog about your music and performances, you should
B
Write out the rhythms on a single line and mark all the beats with a down arrow or a beat number. Make as many combinations as you can think of, then repeat as many times as necessary so as to instantly recognize how they are counted. Then, play them on a single pitch on the instrument. She will be required to demonstrate a good skill level in sight reading. The above process usually produces good results. It will take months of daily work to make it happen. Learning to sing is of great benefit in the process.
Rose says:
December 3, 2016 at 9:04 am
An important reason to “solve” Kyron’s abductor is PPS practices just repeat themselves.
http://star-news.info/2016/10/12/vernon-rips-up-asphalt-to-improve-river-quality/
An eminently worthy and creative middle school project during school hours. Principal Keefer brings on campus: 1) Depave and its construction workers, 2) Openarchitecture and its employees, 3) Lower Columbia Estuary Partnership and its employees and volunteers to include teaching lessons directly in classrooms just like Bonneville Power, 4) “community members (work volunteers), and assorted volunteer parents.
@Rose – I doubt if this PPS policy has changed, but it’s possible of course.
You must have a fingerprint background check if your job, paid or volunteer, allows you to be with any students unsupervised by a PPS approved employee (teacher, VP, etc.) at any time before, during, after school – actually present with you in the location you are working. After retirement, when I volunteered to do office work, and later when I was paid to work on graduates’ cum files which had been water damaged, I was not required to be background checked and worked alone in an office area. At the time I helped with student scheduling in the same counseling office where I had worked over 15 years and was still a certified teacher and counselor, I had to get fingerprinted first because I met directly with students who needed schedule changes.
Can’t find it now, but I think I read somewhere that the PPS requirement for contracted companies doing work on school grounds was that the onsite supervisor(s) had to have background checks if they worked during school time and the workers were the responsibility of the supervisor. I’m sure there are many holes in the policy. My guess is that if a principal wanted to insist on background checks for all, it might happen, at least to some degree. Ultimately, the buck stops with the School Supt and Board.
@Blink. It is the relevant monetary cutoff UNLESS it is a firearm
which is on the excepted list and dips beloe $950.
And the cutoff actually begins above 950 (at 951).
at least that’s what the statute says.
I see upthread you self-corrected to include prop 47 adjustment. I do not know yet what 001 was unless records updates are retro as the case progresses. It “looks” to me like it was dropped due to no prob cause, we shall see.
B
you’re right as always Blink.
“To be more specific, an act of theft will be considered grand theft if the property taken is worth ****more than ****950…
So 950 was the highest amount still fitting misdemeanor.
I did assume 950 was an arbitrary value assignment.
Glad to hear Richards will be able to show valuation was much less.
http://www.shouselaw.com/grand-theft.html#3.1
But I read the firearm exception wrong…..that applied until Prop 47 in 11/14.
So in 2015, it was not an automatic felony. Whew.
@cd. DDY apparently confines herself to communal koolaid with kelly and stacey and followers. kinda like jim jones (where there were many who’d drink koolaid to their deaths) but on social media rather than in a rain forest. Tony either has no influence or he’s a Terri conspiracy theorist alongside her.
Due to DDY’s fixations and beliefs, I hope Tony
keeps his guns in a safe only he has access to and
inventories them every night. iirc he teaches at a gun range
to include one of those military assault type weapons.
now the Marysville paper update copies the Oregonian.
http://m.appeal-democrat.com/news/woman-connected-to-high-profile-oregon-case-due-in-yuba/article_3f6bc00c-bb58-11e6-85e5-930c98b9159d.html?mode=jqm
A weighty burden on those O reporters.
MBS
Your description of what happened to you in your hiring process and how those who did the hiring without knowledge is exactly what is wrong with our school system management.
When I was a young man, a manager was expected to have developed skills through experience to perform any of the jobs of those that they managed. Today that is not the case.
@A Texas Grandfather says:
December 6, 2016 at 7:56 pm
O/T Thanks for the link, I will check it out.
@Blink
One can absolutely end up with a FTA from an undelivered summons in a different county- and unless the county checks with the issuing county- they may not even know what the warrant is for.
B
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I’m confused, what “different county”? Yuba County issued the warrant and that is the county where she was booked for FTA.
She was stopped for speeding in Sacramento, which flagged the yuba warrant. She was transported to Yuba for processing.
B
The Pope has a great vocabulary. Wonder if any of Soldier’s troops are Catholic?
Pope Blasts ‘Sin’ Of Fake News, Compares It To Spreading Excrement
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pope-blasts-sin-of-fake-news_us_58484584e4b08c82e8892eb2
Thank you Blink
I tend to agree
but then realized I cant get past this thought-
How a perp would benefit at all-
with the message being known ? (recovery)
wouldn’t it just increase their own risk of being uncovered and prosecuted?
Thinking In the case of Papini, even with her release, Is the message definitely known?
For certain we know she returned-
evidence was recovered – A husband no longer lives under suspicion of her murder – the family have said: the healing can now begin..
Not so in Kyrons case w/ his absence, there is lack of evidence, yet an over abundance of suspicion
there can be no healing
all are still unable to know or move on from “Wheres Kyron?”
therefore doesnt a hateful “message” seem to resonate more without a recovery? idk
ps
Rose thanks nice to see you too
In this conversation it seems we were discussing a hateful message as the possible motivation (or at least component) of the crime- since we don’t know papini’s “brand” I don’t think I could say where I fall on that specifically. Personally, I do not believe the motivation for Kyron’s abduction was one of a public message, or frankly, pursuant to him as a vessel. I believe it was a sexually motivated crime of opportunity and until such time as I see evidence to the contrary, I have not changed that opinion (or moved my cheese, lol- now that GOES WAY back).
That said, I would agree that there is almost nothing but hateful messages coming from this poor little lads disappearance as a byproduct.
B