Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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I also wonder if there is an investigatory reason that keeps putting her name out there.
I wonder and then wonder some more.
B
Blink, hope you recover quickly, but also nature has a way of forcing us to slow down sometimes!
Regarding license plates in California: I live in California and in 1977 my husband bought personalized plates MKYMOUS for our motorhome. I transferred the personalized plates over the years to vehicles I purchased. Last year I bought a Chrysler Van from Mobility Works and could transfer the plates Tom bought in 1977 to my new van.
Thank you
B
traffic stops this year are not kind to Terri:
speeding 7/4 garnered an arrest.
car maintenance issue garnered this week’s.
is it possible she’s followed from time to time?
and a brake light could’ve been loosened.
press said her plates were run after a routine stop for the car’s functional violation.
Since it was 1 pm, we know it wasn’t head or tail lites.
other option is brake light. or a broken light cover. or broken mirror.
at 1:30 pm Police have to want to maje a stop to write something like that up.
I’ve had a van brake light written up at 2 am in a bad neighborhood–
police want to see who’s out at that hour and use any functional violation to stop..
A white female in a good neighborhood at noon is a different matter.
Just feels fishy.
I hope her pic demeanor is due to crying, not a substance.
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Blink, if you can’t publish her interview, can you explain why you
said Logan Storm was “a factor”?
I don’t disagree I see red flags within this flurry of LE activity. Not just because of the obvious ( I think I mentioned the dates for the 12/16 hearings at the same time did not line up- AND TH was never served (how is one getting around a DV TRO leaked to media in different state, lol) but because in my source interviews, I can state with certainty that current MCSO investigators continually tap certain db resources to check on TH status (intentionally vague). What would possibly prompt a conversation with MCSO if Cristobal was unaware of who “TM” was. I am not sure if it is present in CA, but is everyone aware that when one files a DV (FAPA) in OR they are immediately entitled to up to a $1200 rent/mtg/housing voucher ? For some, they receive a few of these. That blew me away. Before anyone asks, I do not know if Kaine sought one, but I do know he would not qualify due to his income so I doubt it.
A mechanical failure as the reason for someone being pulled over resulting in an arrest of a person who (on paper I verified) owns this vehicle- does not mean there aren’t records out there that conflict- I just haven’t seen any and I am aware they can take months to update. Does this go back to a tag issue from her previous vehicle? In my view there is a past history of undisputed misuse and absuse of LE power and the color of law against this woman. Do I really think any LEA is dumb enough to follow up MCSO acts here, most certainly in a climate where throughout the US LE is taking a bath in nearly every high profile case? No. Do I think a desperate person can make bad decisions, especially when it is probably true she has a history of them? Yes. We will all have to wait it out-
Sorry Rose, I would prefer to discuss “Storm” as a factor in context in the piece as it is a pertinent chronology issue.
B
http://www.kptv.com/story/34124837/terri-horman-arrested-for-taking-car-in-california
Im sorry, is that correct, Terri posted $25K bail? As in, not 10%, but a cash bond?
The correct answer might sway my opinion on what’s going on. Yeesh.
B
Rose
Apple was a pioneer in using computers for the technical side of music production. Nearly all of the early work was by people working on Apple machines.
The pads are perfect for using to display sheet music for performance. A whole concert can be performed by storing the music in the pad. It also only requires a single screen touch to turn the page. This is helpful because some page turns a placed in difficult places on the music. Professional level music is often multiple pages long. Especially is this true of classical music such as a symphony. Some of the arrangements for Broadway shows are between 12 and 20 pages.
The music testing program was developed by Finale a music software company that produces software for composition and arrangement. The test music is loaded into the pad and the person doing the audition or test plays into the microphone. The program then scores the results by comparing the accuracy of time and pitches. The one drawback is it cannot, at the present time, examine the quality of tone an important aspect for young musicians nor is it capable of testing for proper articulation (use of the tongue) for wind instruments. It is a good practice tool for what it does, but I would never use it in an audition. It was first released in 2005.
There is something rotten going on with the multiple arrests of TH. This appears to be too coordinated to be simply a breakdown in behavior.
Could Tony Young be using his LE contacts to harass Terri? If so, then all participating in this activity should face criminal charges.
Art Balizan’s leadership fbi jobs before Portland were Sacramento and San Francisco field offices.
imo he stays in touch with mcso chief reese, having connected his son there as head of Business.
I would not be surprised if fbi field agents out of Sac and SF were tailing Terri and looking for stop issues.
Imo they’re working on 3 felony strikes and you’re jailed for life in Calif.
Except for returns for Court appearances, imo she needs to live back over the Oregon line. I don’t think
bcz she believes she’s innocent she’s taken her jeopardy seriously.
Tamara M btw is no longer a Sacramento deputy per her book promo.
Imo one problem was when Terri emerged, she managed her own media choices and PR. She shoukd’ve gotten a PR professional’s mgmt. Dr Phil was a h u g e mistake. Now she needs PR mgmt more than ever.
About driving a car with a stolen license plate.
This is what happened to my husband and I. We had dinner at a local restaurant. When we went to get into our vehicle the drivers side door had damage as though someone was trying to open the door heard us coming and left. We didn’t call police or anything because my husband was just going to file an insurance claim to get the door/lock damage fixed. When my husband went out to the garage to take the car to the dealer to get an estimate of the damage he noticed that the license plates had been replaced with some other license plates then ours.
My husband originally thought that someone just stole our license plates replacing them with plates from a stolen car or something. I told him I thought car thieves were putting different plates on our car because they planned to steal the car and if we reported it stolen then LE would not be able identify the stolen car by the license plates.
But where did the plates they replaced our plates with come from and what didi the thieves plan to do with the plates they stole from our car.
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I think maybe some car thief could have stolen a car and needed some plates that were not reported stolen they may have switched the plates with plates from a car they stole and Terri did not notice the change
or
Terri bought a car from a shady dealer and the plates were actually stolen plates all along.
I have heard that car theft rings steal cars up and down on I5 and sell them in Mexico so all they have to do is get the car past the border.
CD
Your story about the license plates is very plausible. You probably interrupted the thieves before they could complete the job of stealing your vehicle.
Plate swapping or stealing appears to be one of the tricks that criminals use to help them move vehicles from one state to another.
While attending a seminar at the University Of British Columbia in 1999,we had the rear plate stolen from our car. We immediately drove to the nearby Canadian Mountie facility and reported the theft. The plate had been issued in 1995 as the 150 year celebration of Texas becoming a state. We figured that it may have been some student at the University who took it to make a wall mount in a dorm room. The front plate remained on the car. We had a letter prepared to present to any LE that stopped us explaining the missing plate.
We crossed back into the US and traveled down I-5 through Washington state and all the way to the parking lot about five miles from crater lake in Oregon before we were stopped for no plate on the back. The letter was shown to the officer with the Canadian phone number to call for verification. That was the only time we were stopped. Drove all the way back to Texas with no other stops.
This whole thing about Terri and the recent LE activities is disturbing. Is Rose correct in her assessment of what is going on? Very possible.
cd says:
December 26, 2016 at 3:37 am
About driving a car with a stolen license plate.
Or
Maybe DY/TY has hired or encouraged someone to set TH up. This is how they finally got OJ in jail he just kept getting in trouble for one legal incident after another. To bad TH did not move further away from Oregon where she would be harder to find and stalk.
We have a vehicle that stays in the garage a lot. In WA, up until last year, plates had to be replaced every 3 years (to generate revenue). We put our new plates in the garage with the vehicle, not on it and someone (probably a friend of a friend of one of the kids) snagged them.
We found out they were missing when we got a toll bill for several hundred dollars. It was a fight to prove the car on the bridge was not the vehicle the plates were registered to. Even though we had photo proof, the only way to legally get out of the bill was to go to DMV and report the plates stolen.
Right. A fairly cumbersome process- although the 3 year life span on plates is news to me- wow.
B
I believe it was 10% of the bail amt of 25,000, or $2,500.
I agree- but that is an important article error if correct, imo.
B
@ATG. You are a fount of wisdom. ty for sharing background info.
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this olde conspiracy theorist tries deductive reasoning, probably syllogisms tho:
Soldier sez on FB “I am hearing” a new bf of TMH pd the bail %age.
Soldier has NO contacts in LE in OR or CA. She has no rational contacts of any kind related to the Court system in Marin Cty. Her only contact is Desiree or the mouthpiece sister. So, imo Desiree personally, or thru Kelly, told Soldier a BF pd the bail %.
Deductio: Desiree was on tenderhooks as to whether TMH would weekend in jail or be bailed, and was informed toot sweet by Master Planner that bail had occurred and who paid it.
Desiree has some source who informed her it was a bf. Who could that be? No one other than the “Investigatory” (lightly said) Master Planner keeping tabs on TMH’s ins and outs. If Master Planner knew it was a male name on the bail payment doc, how did Master Planner know it was a new BF? Master Planner is after micro information about any supports of any kind TMH has.
Terri’s defense atty needs to find out.
I do not think Desiree makes this “inside information” up; I think her flaw is gossiping to Soldier what some LE insider is feeding her.
Because, Soldier’s postings, if accurate, are a defense attorney’s dream. If TMH were in Oregon with Houze that is. Now she is rolling the dice with possible defense dodos.
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I always try to put myself in the target’s shoes to see what the Planner’s objective is.
My daughter called me hysterial recently on a Sat am after her car had been towed. She had played a “gig” making %300 Fri night, and drove her employer home. Leaving the car briefly in the employer’s apt lot, it was gone on return. Bailing it cost $225 of the $300.
And she was emotionally distraught at just the injustice (in her mind) of being towed.
So, what was even worse, in my mind, than the charge of stolen whatever, and a very brief period in jail, is the loss of the car.
She was far from “home”, whether Roseberg or Sacramento. Her car was impounded as evidence. She was on foot. No way to get anywhere. And she cannot contest this until Jan l0. Until Jan l0 she is guaranteed wheeless. To find someone to drive to Marin Cty jail to pick you up (humiliatingly), to pay the bill, to drive you around, etc. would make her as hysterical as my adult kid. For a poor person without a job, being also without wheels for 3 weeks is appalling. And there is no way around it but waiting for that Court hearing, even if You Own the Car. It would be so easy to lure her to a wealthy suburb of SF on the pretext of interviewing for an inhome caregiver l to l job. What an easy peasey sting. No idea if that happened, but to the extent she keeps biting on personal caregiver jobs of any kind, imo she is beyond bad judgment and just writing her own tickets to jail.
Wth was dau car towed? Poor thing.
I cant shake the feeling this all looks like a bad breakup fallout- or is it me?
B
I think these activities, taking advantage of an admitted bad judgment naif who thinks innocence (of the abduction) is any kind of a shield, moreover one in poverty without resources, are most likely not MCSO, but MCSO tapping friendly resources in the Sacramento and/or SF FBI field offices as arranged by Baltizan, former head of those offices as well as Portland at the time of the abduction, prior to his retirement. After all, if Reese hired his son–a relatively newly minted college grad with just a few yrs of experience– with a great job, Baltizan owes Reese one. After all previously the job was held by a Deputy, not a civilian.
Soldier keeps trumpeting the $50,000 reward.
I wonder if whoever in mcso spoke with Cristobal mentioned it?
Wonder if Terri’s defense atty is so competent as to ask Cristobal under oath,
You were aware there is a $50,000 reward if your action (filing an RO) in part
led to kyron’s return, weren’t you?
I had not thought of that angle Rose, have you revisited the terms of claiming such an award?
B
Comey shines.
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/sacramento/news/press-releases/fbi-opens-new-sacramento-field-office-building-construction-in-roseville-features-enhanced-security-safety
And they gotta tip line.
California was the first state that I learned about that used multiple year plates. That began in the 1940′s to save metal for the war effort in WWII. Most Southern states had one year plates until the late 1970′s.
Texas began to issue multi-year plates with a sticker to be placed on the plate itself. One could pay extra for a new metal plate at plate change time. That is how we had the special plate on the vehicle that was stolen in Canada. The present method in Texas is to issue metal plates at the time a car is purchased and use a windshield sticker to show the current year. The life of metal plates is now 10 years in Texas. After that time you are forced to accept new metal plates and start the process of stickers for that plate.
With the loss of steel and aluminum production in the U.S., this makes sense.
Thank you, I consider same or other permutation.
B
CD
O.J. Simpson moved to Florida to escape payments of the civil case. His problem is that he kept moving around the country hanging out with some of his friends. They finally got him in Nevada for the robbery where he tried to recover some of the things that were seized by the court and sold.
I think TH was trying to stay reasonably close in hopes that she would be given an opportunity to have visitation with her child. Your supposition about her activities being tracked by Federal agents could well be happening.
People swap license plates for a variety of reasons. So we consider if TH did it or someone swapped them without her knowledge. One of the articles said they were swapped in Sacramento.
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When the car’s license plates were checked, police say they came back reported stolen out of Sacramento.
http://www.kptv.com/story/34124837/terri-horman-arrested-for-taking-car-in-california
Either TH took them and they were reported stolen, so we consider why she didn’t want her car identified, or someone placed them on her car and then reported them stolen. The latter seems to make the most sense.
Stolen or incorrect plates is def a different charge though, no?
If she possesses a valid registration and maintains insurance I am just not seeing the basis for the charge. Me wonders if someone might be on the title or maybe in a position from a legal/financial issue to assert it is stolen?
B
Horman, whose legal name is Terri Moulton…
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2016/12/23/terri-horman-arrested-for-third-time-in-2016/
Do we have clarity on whether the car or just the plates were stolen? Headlines say ‘stolen car’ but the stories seem to suggest with the use of the word “they” that it is the plates that are stolen.
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When the car’s license plates were checked, police say they came back reported stolen out of Sacramento,” according to the report.
http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/?t=News_inside_display&nid=2709521&nhr10000309=5&nhc10000309=5
Not that I am aware of, running a plate could result in either issue, and neither possibility on its face constitutes driving a vehicle without permission vs stealing one so I am at a loss like y’all. The only thing I do know from a source is that TH was in the location on a work-related assignment AND she was not charged with anything related to a mechanical failure.
This seems like a good opportunity to provide a (maybe) off topic link of a case I continue to be absolutely fascinated with, which occurs “pretty close” to this one.
Note the contrast in LE actions and procedure over MCSO, and remains to be seen of the recent entanglements TM finds herself in. It is also a pristine journalistic effort combining interactive media (imo) http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-framed/
Moral of this story above all else- lock your residence, lock your car without exception and believe any person is capable of anything.
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-framed/
B
Marin Cty Sheriff has ONE vehicle with this technology
(which LE agency is listed as making the arrest?)
http://www.marinij (dot) com/general-news/20120811/police-use-of-automobile-license-plate-scanning-on-the-rise-in-marin-nation
I wonder if this tech was used on
July 4 to prescreen Terri’s plates
before the speeding stop?
I wonder what changed wrt her
car plates between July 4 and Dec 23?
“….records on drivers and feeding them to intelligence fusion centers operated by local, state and federal law enforcement”
http://cironline.org/reports/license-plate-readers-let-police-collect-millions-records-drivers-4883
I feel my Ws about tracking of Terri and her movements are answered by this article.
from a civil liberties perspective, this sucks.
It’s Guaranteed TH’s every vehicular move has been tracked.
So are other citizens’.
“A year ago, the Northern California Regional Intelligence Center – one of dozens of law enforcement intelligence-sharing centers set up after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 – signed a $340,000 agreement with the Silicon Valley firm Palantir to construct a database of license-plate records flowing in from police using the devices across 14 counties, documents and interviews show.
The extent of the center’s data collection has never been revealed. Neither has the involvement of Palantir, a Silicon Valley firm with extensive ties to the Pentagon and intelligence agencies. The CIA’s venture capital fund, In-Q-Tel, has invested $2 million in the firm.
The jurisdictions supplying license-plate data to the intelligence center stretch from Monterey County to the Oregon border. According to contract documents, the database will be capable of handling at least 100 million records and be accessible to local and state law enforcement across the region.”
There is no excuse for this, but imo it will worsen with the new Nat’l Sec appointees.
W’s meant Questions.
OT
https://www.palantir.com/products/ not public
there was a rush to buy defense contractor stocks post m-election and
Vought / Boeing buyers got creamed.
Imo this is the one to own, but who owns it?
oh gosh Peter Thiel.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies
Answers the Q of his skin in the game this election.
imo Terri needs to move back N of the OR border asap bcz
her Calif counties’ use of Palantir’s
technology means Big Brother knows and records her
moment to moment whereabouts.
Baltizan would have known in 2010-11 of this and other
palo alto-centric LE technology.
Remember when MCSO contracted out for a Calif tech analysis
supposedly of pings? Bet the consultant’s locus might’ve been with
the diverse products offered to LE agencies.
This company was up & running quite well in 2010..
Baltizan from FBI’s SF Office knew it’s capabilities well imo. I wonder
if Staton capitalized on the abduction to buy for a car with his
big budget requests, disguised by agreement with Commissioners
as Something Else as this would not fly in Portland. L Yankee woukd
know. Great reason for a winner take all speed settlement.
http://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/2607214-151/oregon-mulling-limits-on-license-plate-reading-surveillance-cameras
@Blink. TY for the reading suggestion. I coukd use more.
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-framed/#chapter6
Note in Part II Peters mentioned her fear police would know her hx of speeding–likely 45 in a 35 zone.
On reflection, I assumed TH’s 7/4 speed ticket was say @0 on a hwy.
It woukd be EASY if tracing her vehicle with this hit shot lic plate technology to pick her ordinary route and choose a low mileage street, say 25 or 35, and nap her as soon as she showed 36 moh.
Blink, I hope she informs you ALL the curcumstances of that stop (where, how fast vs posted limit, etc). Tho if she was given a ticket maybe that’s on record. Maybe sge was never ticketed to keep the stop out if Richards’ defense hands. Imo incident 1 is not a gun case, whatever it is.
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I am sure you noticed Blink in the article I posted onthis 14 Calif county collaboration on pooling of licplate data amongst all Federal and local (county and city) LE, that the Stationary cameras are at the only 2 entrances to Tiburon–the area where TH was stopped? That her caregiver job was in the only regional area with the 2 stationary cameras capturing all vehicles which come and go fromTiburon suggests to me that “work” was a sting element.
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It’s her business, but if she were my ***cooperative*** daughter, to stop the momentum before further arrests accrue, and they will, she’d be inside my 4 walls and escorted by me to appear at all hearings. The momentum must be stopped.
Rose, until the legal issues are adjudicated fully, I have zero plans of asking her anything about them. No way to verify or refute an active case pending litigation, imo.
B
oh bloody typos, I gotta stop being frightened of the ipad and try it.
what do you need help with- I’ll allow a little off topic on it if someone can (maybe me, I use it)help?
B
hot dog–can’t you reveal yr and Sharon’s permutations?
wrt erose says:
December 27, 2016 at 1:59 am
I am wondering if she had a car note cosignor, say Cristobal?
Unlike DDS who declined a sting, with $50,000 dangled
under his nose, he seems a patsy for “stings”–both RO and lic plate.
Whoever reported stolen plates (or maybe they were just in the LE data
systems by happenstance) knew she traveled out of Sac Cty for work.
One wonders Cristobal’s immigration status.
I can find nothing about him really so wondering
if it’s an alias and he’s a regular informant, or a DEA under cover type.
She needs someone way betond Richards’ skill set–a Houze–an ex Federal prosecutor
skilled at defending entrapment cases.
I would generalize it as a thought about the Pygmalion effect as a possible issue.
B
@Blink. College town police told me it’s a regular private firm scam.
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I don’t see this as a bad breakup. They were not roommates long enough for any emotional attachment on either part. Imo it was a functional mutual arrangement like Kaine’s initially: I suspect he had kids and needed care and she neededkids and housing.
I suggest the weight of public information tips this to the 51 ft yard line towards a sting, utilizing some
incentive flowing to Cristobal. Although today I’m thinking (without evidence), it is very possible whatever agency’s LE lead (I posit SF Office FBI) visited RightatHome (a national chain but local franchisees) and asked for cooperation well before TH resigned.
@Blink. imo nothing O publishes is trustworthy,
& no quote marks are used, but O
says “information that leads to the discovery of…”
One can see LE (whoever) tell Christobal: We believe your
info or actions could “lead to the discovery of”…. for
which there is a $50k reward.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.oregonlive.com/articles/16138017/sheriffs_office_offers_50000_r.amp?client=safari
2015:
“A $50,000 has been offered in the case, and now the sheriff’s office has added it to Kyron’s official missing child flier in hopes of generating new leads.”
multiple new publications of the reward in every Portland media venue.
http://www.kptv.com/story/29182919/50k-reward-highlighted-as-kyron-horman-disappearance-nears-5-years
2 mos later, there’s the gun w/o permission report.
The story in Blinks link about the one in Irvine is one that everyone needs to read. Not locking a vehicle or one’s residence is a dangerous practice and has been one for fifty years or more.
I remember arriving a my paternal grandmother’s house one afternoon in the summer of 1957 to find her all upset because she could not find her keys to the front and back doors. A radio announcement about some escaped prisoners from a facility forty miles away had requested everyone to lock their doors. Thinking she had simply put them in a place that was different from normal I began to question her in ways that might jog her memory. She stopped me after the third question and told me she had not locked the doors since 1935. Then I really looked at the locks. They were skelton key types that anyone could pick with a thin screwdriver or a small blade on a pocket knife.
I was not planning to spend the night, but did so and jammed an oak dinning room chair under the knob for the night. The next day I went to the hardware store and bought double cylinder dead bolt locks and installed them.
Everyone should develop the habit of locking vehicle doors immediately when exiting. The moral habits of the current times are far different than those I experienced as a youth. Thieves and others of questionable character are walking the streets of every size community just waiting for a careless mistake on your part.
You are one resourceful and loyal Grandson, and G-Grandfather (duh). I just felt like I was watching a Paul Newman movie with your personal story.
Still sitting in a chair with my foot in traction, in case anyone wondered if these are the mutterings of a woman about to undergo ass-fuse-recliner syndrome. It is.
B
In regards to the license plate readers. Society is in a position of technological advancements that make possible things that impinge on our personal privacy rights. While these things may help LE and our criminal justice system in some ways, there is also the area of abuse by those that have access.
Where do we draw the line for control? It is going to be a difficult process to have laws and regulations that both allow their use and protect our privacy rights.
I am finding in my work LPRs are going the way of Stingray. It will be abused, and Judges will figure out it is impeding the 4 corners doctrine (kind description) and they will react.
B
http://www.ocweekly.com/news/jill-easter-lays-an-egg-on-national-tv-7200775
Do you ever just look at someone and KNOW they will spend eternity being sent back to learn the same lessons, lol. She Cray.
B
I read the story, so interesting. Dateline or someone did it as well but this was more detailed. Parents with a vendetta on something so trivial give food for thought on what a parent may do if their thought someone murdered their child. KH and DY have many LE ties, and MCSO is more scheming than detecting or investigating. Will an overzealous cop shoot her and claim resisting, or the like. What is the end game and whose game is it and how does this help Kyron?
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-framed/
Rose, I thought the cops up here in WA all used those license plate detectors. In WA we have optional chips (RFID) in our drivers licenses, called “enhanced,” for ease in crossing the Canadian border, they say. Boarder Patrol knows who we are before our car reaches the gate shack.
http://www.offthegridnews.com/privacy/drivers-license-chips-soon-will-allow-government-to-track-you/
interesting. or golem:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_effect
Yeah. I could buy either potentially.
B
I wonder why the 1-1 Caregiver self identity?
Not RN pay or status.
you know, Blink, Soldier’s site pairs the reward notice with the Davidsons’ private tip eaddress misleadingly imo as tho it’s an official LE tipline paired with the reward. Does not disclose it is not LE. (Well, maybe Tony takes these contacts.) So if Cristobal googled Kyron and landed on Soldier’s site, his first outreach would be to Tips4Kyron aka the Davidsons, who then might have referred him on to “our LE team.” Good question for defense attorney: Tell me what contacts you had with this Xxxx tip address or phone nimber…. Who you spoke to at mcso …. who you spoke to in Calif LE and was that before or after mcso? And was that before or after speaking to tips4 kyron by email or phone? get into any reward discussions… who advised you about filing an RO, etc? However defense lawyers structure it.
wrt “Judges will figure out it is impeding the 4 corners doctrine (kind description) and they will react.”
Factor inthe 100 Federal Judges the New King is going to nominate.
Apparently erose the unique feature of TMH’s geographic location is the metadata sharing in real time within and amongst was it 14 northern Calif counties– all branches of Federal (like fbi, Homeland Sec, CIA (tho its not supposed to do domestic), DEA, and so on), State, County, and City LE agencies — metadata mining as run and mediated by Palantir located in palo alto. Palantir invested in by the cia, other intelligence agencies ie DIA in the pentagon etc.
imo this 14 Cty thing is a pilot. It not only does plates, but takes pics of people withtheir children in their driveway per that article. These cameras are quite expensive. Marin Cty Sheriff has only one. Cities in Marin have 1-2, Tiburon has 2 stationary at entrances and exits. This is not yet widely disseminated. Look for funding flowing to Palantir buried in Defense, CIA, DHS, etc budgets. I thot I knew the Beltway Bandits, but who’d a thunk a very major cia nsa software metadata miner contractor would be in California not Virginia? Imo evading the VA located rocket docket Federal appellate court.
OT & to erose. over 35 yrs ago I was the first AA to the Dir of the newly formed Space group in the Congressional Office of Tech Assessment. Had to set up recording for a top secret round table with heads of industry and within govt (ie nasa) featuring Wm Colby briefing them on capabilities wrt satelitte resolution of intel ground targets which was then seen as amazing. The recording came out as white noise to the Congessional agency Dir’s distress, and we both blamed me. Now of course imo Colby had a jamming gizmo.
However today these capabilities are much advanced, well-known to the public, used for commercial purposes (gps navigators, google geospace etc). The interesting thing will be when Thiel’s products move out of govt secrecy, LE and defensive applications, and into the commercial applications mainstream. His stuff is like satellite pics only from ground locations (which google has now) but enhanced with data mining and sharing capabilities. Oh the revenue streams after ad agencies harness for targeting.
wrt “Do you ever just look at someone and KNOW they will spend eternity being sent back to learn the same lessons, lol. She Cray.”
yeah. what was that personal body sculpture someone carved out of her hair on her head pictured on a car rally site?
Missed that
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Missed that or purged it from memory to the deleted trash?
https://m.facebook.com/kyronscarshow/photos/a.1113815158679688.1073741834.671472942913914/1113816235346247/?type=3&source=54&ref=page_internal
green tree frog carving.
interestingly nw cars site has an august 13 pic of a young boy Hayden frequenting their shows in a car pic.
I wonder if Kaine attended any of NW shows with Kyron?
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if kyron was the sexual object target, not merely a boy of say 5-8 (Matthews was a K room after all)
he had to come to perp’s attention somewhere.
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TH’s 3 Court cases have disenfranchised and interrupted her fromgetting her story out,
apparently her 2016 goal. Started up when she started talking.
She btw needs to return to Houze’s no electronics proscriptions.
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Imo Deputy Sgt Krafve’s MO has always been pressure and entrapment per his press, NOT
investigation. That Reese kept him as Supv Investigations with his public easily googled hx
tells one Reese’s capabilities.
Rose, You and your experiences are fascinating.
Ikr. In my view, the ability to learn from others in as many circumstances as one can in a day is invaluable. Very grateful for that.
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