Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes

I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010.    Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past,  I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another.   This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases.    I am proud of that.  I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.

Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom,  Terri Horman.   Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey.    Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child.    There are dozens of sources,  collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.

Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did.  I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping.  Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode.    When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her,   I most certainly respected that.  I still do.

While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure,   I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth.  There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions.     Not what I signed on for.   A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience.   He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.

I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil.   I appreciate your patience and your understanding.   Feel free to discuss the show below.

 

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  1. erose says:

    Bobby O was essentially stalking sitting in that cul-de-sac without jurisdiction. Wasn’t there a sheriff living across the street for a time?

    I am aware of an elderly person that TMH assisted regularly, not sure about former vocation- maybe someone with better knowledge on that issue can address? I don’t know why MCSO did not request Roseburg PD assistance if this was a surveillance gig- it is common.

    There are a few stories as reported to me involving MCSO assets far out of their jurisdiction and I daresay many, many more I may not be aware of. If and when I publish my series on this case I will allow those affected to tell their encounters themselves.

    B
    B

  2. erose says:

    Is it possible that EM didn’t know who the paras and spec ed staff were? Otherwise IDK how these people could be involved. Could it be that she thought it was a staff member and once that staff member had an alibi, he was incorrectly ruled out.

    All I know is she is on record multiple times (one depo I know of) that she did not know the ID of SZ.
    B

  3. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose
    O/T
    Good to learn that your child has found a school and been accepted into a program and in Texas no less. There are many good music programs in the state. North Texas is the top school for performance. Texas Women’s University is situated on an adjacent campus. Both are located at Denton.

    The department head for elementary music programs at Texas Women’s is a friend of mine-Known him for close to 30 years. We played a duet program together in the year 2000. He was elected President of the TMEA (Texas Music Educators Association) a few years later.

  4. Rose says:

    @TRuth re ” T. Ruth says:
    April 23, 2017 at 12:25 pm”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-49/#comments

    Gofundme no longer advertises the justice4kyron email tip line?

    I noticed this on BKH awhile ago because it looked like Kaine had set up his own dueling privateemail tip line whose address is there in the write up. I haven’t read all the verbiage bcz it seems illiterate as to procedure. Not written by Kaine. I speculated by Kristin, or iirc he had some rural PD employee volunteering on the KHF Board.

    Imo the dueling bio tip lines trolling America fir look alikes eoukd’ve wasted a lot of LE time, if mcso used time productively, which they don’t.

  5. Rose says:

    “outside of their jurisdiction (I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS For a Minute) ”

    yes. sounds like bobby loved joy rides.

  6. Rose says:

    re “If Rod Underhill is not a raging alcoholic over this chronic
    fiasco he has my full compliments. With a pepcid chaser.”

    Teflon Rod does not deserve a pass. Anyway he runs in lieu of alcohol.

    His wife earns big bucks as a lawyer ethicist. Ironic.

    On 6/5 he assigned kyron a fulltime ada & dispatched
    her to work that and overtime, sited with mcso, Supervised her.
    was Rees’ supervisor. Painting Frink as the bad guy and
    Rod as the goid guy split does not work for me. Rod is
    culpable for every bit of Rees’ grand jury mgmt as Rees and Moawad’s supervisor.

    I don’t (and can’t) disagree, the fish rots from the head and all that. The only thing I will say is that I have had a few off the record conversations with former ADA’s who know him, and worked under Schrunk/Fink. We have seen some of the cases profiled here- there is no love lost between MCSO and MCDA- in fact, the ADA in “their” jurisdiction REQUIRED their LE investigators to undergo enhanced training before they would file cases they were pretty sure were headed to trial. I also note that some of the verbiage in the Horman matter “briefs” that were penned via the DA office hints at the fact that (in particular) O’Donnell’s work is out of scope- a classic example of distance but intended immunity.

    One of the things I wish to remind folks is that while we all agree (and I include those that may or may not be sure of TH involvement) there is no prosecutable case against TMH and based on the hot mess that is Kyron’s investigation to date, never will be- I am Very concerned that MCSO laser pointer Terri file will erode the possibility of a successful prosecution of a culpable person here as well.
    B

  7. Rose says:

    ot @atg she’ll be nowhere near my idea of civilization. by a fluke, w/one of the top performing/teaching in the country. He’s never heard or met dau, and I fear she won’t last a year. TA, inState tuition, 10,000, & opportunity. but will have to work like never before. Sunday I almost died hearing his Schelomo with a full orchestra.
    apparently Ernest Bloch composed and died in Oregon.

  8. Rose says:

    ok is this the one whose wife killed herself c 2004?

    If this is to me, I am not following the question unfortunately, Rose.
    B

  9. Rose says:

    what or who coukd’ve brought story to mcso if it didn’t originate internally? Ode’s Q is great! ie did it originate in Medford’s jail? or Fed prison? (reminds me of Rudy–maybe a jailed illegal.) Come from some defense attorney?
    The “prisoner” if existing coukd’t be credible as HE didn’t testify at the GJ, and a hiree/perpetrator’s testimony is far better than an ostensible target.

  10. Rose says:

    Desiree has been vigilante from the day she led a chalk and
    stalk group to the Moulton’s front lawn.

    And in my view, the recipient of bad advice.
    B

  11. Rose says:

    “few stories as reported to me involving MCSO assets far out of their jurisdiction”

    this mcso investigative shop is still run by the same giusto deputies krafve, walls etc.
    i figure levi was put there because he came from out of town & looks naive.
    ——-
    you’ve hit the nail on the head Blink. If SZ is ever id’d and brought to prosecution, mcso’s case investigative files must all be turned over. Probably take a decade to begin a trial, and mcso, Desiree, Kaine, Tony will have handed him his defense. trial will take months (all those Terri did it Young videos to play) and I defy anyone to say they could convict SZ beyond a reasonable doubt since mathews can’t id him. onlypossibility is a plea bargain.

    I think a great deal of that has to do with the circumstances in play at the time. I hope to be wrong and I do not think we are talking about the same amount of time elapse- but I do believe Kyron’s case will resolve similarly to that of Jacob Wetterling in many aspects.
    B

  12. T. Ruth says:

    @Rose,

    According to this list on SM’s, RS was listed as para at Skyline beginning 2009-2010 year.

    http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9317.200

  13. T. Ruth says:

    @ erose says:
    April 23, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    Is it possible that EM didn’t know who the paras and spec ed staff were? Otherwise IDK how these people could be involved.

    (snipped)
    ************

    IMO until SZ is identified (which may never happen, particularly the way LE & PPS have chosen to handle thiings), it is impossible to know whether or not SZ is connected to anyone in Kyron’s circle, whether immediate or outreaching.

    Anyone who had been grooming or sexually abusing Kyron (if that were the scenario, and which TMH implied in her interview), could have motive to hire or otherwise coerce someone into abducting that child.

    This is why it bugs the F out of me that LE has never released any kind of description of SZ. I don’t think we’ll find Kyron first, without first finding SZ. They have exhausted his potential connection to TMH; the time to look for other connections is long overdue. I’m thinking now, almost 7 years later, that it’s never going to happen, or maybe in 30-40 years, when everyone involved with the PPS cover-up is dead and gone.

    I hate LE’s silence and I hate they felt compelled to release other information to Kyron’s circle, that perhaps should not have been released to them at all.

  14. T. Ruth says:

    http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9183.0

    Refresher of list of sf attendees ^^. No RS, no LT

    The para’s listed as being there on June 4, 2010, were females.

  15. Rose says:

    pity in 2010-11 DY didnt use her $30,000 GFM $ to fund this former MCSO preGuisto era Commander to reconstruct the crime scene at the school with as many present as possible there that day and supervise interviews, debriefing afterwards
    http://englertforensics.com/bio/

    Looks like she would not have had to- he volunteers or volunteered for MCSO cold case unit:

    http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs011/1102356663680/archive/1102361937905.html#LETTER.BLOCK15

    Super Interesting a reporter from the O- also on the team.
    B

  16. A Texas Grandfather says:

    If LE out of another district or jurisdiction were sitting in a vehicle that is unmarked for a period of time, they would be challenged if I were to spot them. The first thing would be to call the local Sheriff and inform them of the presence of a car and request assistance to find out why they were sitting there.

    If they had no clearance to be out of jurisdiction, they would likely have me insist that they be held in the local jail until the matter was cleared. Some investigators are so bold as to use their own time to do surveillance outside of jurisdiction without local permission.

    With a messed up group like MCSO, I am not surprised that such an act took place.

  17. Rose says:

    EM was elderly therefore senses attenuated imo, a chaotic day with no reason to pay attention to a breezy breeze- thru. K-1 unlikely to involve paras or even the Sped but fir parent-requested prescreening ARDs. Unkess a child was really regressed, would not come in with an iep. So it was unlinely much exposure to the hiree from the previous school year Terrones, but more unlikely she knew paras who woukd not have observed in her room.

    I go back to K’s separate math class. I know Kaine & the world want to think he was math advanced. What if he wasn’t? Or, what if his behavioral card whatever meant a bit of coteaching might aid his focus, even treat the hapless Porter by giving her an hour break from what she thought was one of her challenging kids?

    Maybe he was put in a math class where a para was working due to an iep’d kid, just for overflow support due either to math weakness as a 7 yo placed in Porter with 2nd graders or due to behavioral whatever? And Salvia was the plugin? While paras are assigned to one kid by iep, they integrate into the classroom.

  18. Rose says:

    @Blink. the one in coos bay apparently moved for
    awhile to ca when initiating a divorce.
    Wife went there, shot him, then killed herself.
    I wondered if Terri’s accuser from Roseburg
    was that one.

    I see. I apologize because you were trying to be cryptic, lol, and I missed it. I have been advised not to publicly discuss Mr. Rea’s “background” outside of the acknowledgement of a publicly available criminal record. He has never given a public interview and has no attributable quotes to verify- Iboshi is on his own.
    B

  19. Rose says:

    that is amazing he volunteers to mcso free and
    they didn’t use him in 2010 to restage a walkthru of
    the crime scene with fair attendees the day after school released
    with everyone doing what they did that day to trigger memories.

    The only individual I am aware of that did an actual “walk through” as to steps taken on June 4th, 2010 was Terri Horman- and that was in front of staff and students during the school day- if you can believe that idiocy.
    B

  20. Rose says:

    I guess the problem with using the retired mcso
    operation commander in his area of private practice
    expertise (crime scene reconstruction) is in 2010 K
    was neither a homicide nor a cold case thus not a
    fit in the minds of Staton, Reiser, krafve, or ODonnell.

    Um, your going to love this (snark alert)
    http://www.mcso.us/profiles/

    Click on Sheriffs video Message.
    Not former FBI field office head’s kid at MCSO, its “the dude”. Sheriff Reese actually mentions the FBI “assisting” in Kyron’s investigation specifically.

    I have to say- that is an impressive option to head off an FBI investigation for potential corruption of an agency who booted ALL of their former Sheriffs alleging same (dunno about prior to Giusto).

    B

  21. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose may be onto something regarding Kyron and math problems. Too many primary grade teachers today do not understand math themselves and therefore are unable to teach it. Sometimes a child’s inability is covered up by political correctness so their feelings are not hurt.
    The “everybody gets a trophy” syndrome.

    This is certainly not new. In 1959, I was making copies of teacher transcripts for the local school board to review for possible new hires. The school did not have a copy machine as commercial xerox machines cost too much and they were new to the market place.

    Some of those transcripts for teachers across the full range from kindergarten to high school indicated a degree with as little substance as possible. I referred to them as degrees in basket weaving.

  22. Rose says:

    somewhat prior to guisto was terry shrunk
    same allegations, or worse, about him

  23. Rose says:

    “The only individual I am aware of that did an actual “walk through” as to steps taken on June 4th, 2010 was Terri Horman- and that was in front of staff and students during the school day- if you can believe that idiocy.
    B”

    not just incompetent but way evil

    again mcso was squelching and silencing
    public memories of attendees as to SZ by
    a “public hanging” in the Skyline town square.

    in that walk thru, mcso did not want to find kyron but to
    ensure silencing of any school witnesses’ volunteering
    facts and details about SZ to peers or the school community.

  24. Rose says:

    ” has no attributable quotes to verify- Iboshi is on his own.
    B” LOL not on his own. there are
    his kgw-published interviews with desiree about same.
    And 6 mo and 1 mo tipsters. whose name I’m sure he
    knows he’d have to give in a depo. So if Rea or whoever sues,
    defendants would be Kyle, kgw, Desiree and tipster Does 1 and 2.

    To my knowledge DY has never said his name publicly and unfortunately Iboshi has zero credibility with me.
    B

  25. Rose says:

    oh–I forgot mcso as a defendant party.

  26. erose says:

    Then the walk thru didn’t take place until 3+ days!

    If EM was unaware of Skyline support staff, I would hope to think she was given photos of all known males on the premises on June 4. SF pictures Blink has already said have not been gathered, so at the very least has EM been shown photos of support staff, or did she negligently endanger a child by not even getting a look at the guy? I though she thought he was so and so and later found out he was not whom she assumed, but now I’m wondering if she paid any attention.

    On the subject of coos, how many people have multiple gun incidents like that?

  27. Rose says:

    Well, Blink, aren’t you way smart, which we always knew. But what a find! I remember sarcastically saying if it was Balizan Sr, what a hoot!

    I didn’t find it on the link at first, so googling came upon a cache of monthly youtubes. with about 36 subscribers. Skimmed a bit of Jan Feb and March 2017. Self righteous Reese is a bit hard for me to take. Feb featured Vera Pool at length, black hx month opportunist. Pool sued (and lost) mcso way back iirc in the 80s. She was the one admin who refused to sign Staton’s “loyalty oath.” She’s been a national leader in corrections iirc and president of this and that.

    So, I went back to the site and found the videos and figured you must mean the first one, Sept 2016. Sure enough. Reese starts out untruthfully. Said he had a new management structure, 3 divisions, with business now the third. Business was always the third division, tho Research was in it, it just had a third Chief Deputy as head, the position eliminated after that Linda who sued Staton’s settlement that gave her the possibility of return to the position. So, he just eliminated that deputy job and made the head civilian. And who what mcso Lt is going to file a personnel action against the former regional FBI Director? So, I figure ol Art is transitional to another civilian Reese has in the offing. Reese belabors Art’s credentials with the FBI. The only problem is for that job, Art has no educational or work credentials. Managing some FBI offices does not cut it. He was primarily a narcs officer in his career. At that pay and status Reese should’ve hired an MBA with private sector business management experience.

    It is really funny Reese points out his key role in the Kyron Horman investigation. Since that investigation went awry really really fast and stayed there. So, Art and his buddy Reese will never ever want an external agency to evaluate the investigation. In fact, Art is probably in a position to block the FBI agreeing to take it on. to do so would expose his 2010-11 incompetence and mcso’s. Remember Art is the one who designed the sting that made headlines for him for months to entice and entrap that muslim teenager into participating in the fbi designed (nonexistent) bomb plot.

    Well, Reese just lost his last shred of potential credibility in my eyes with this dude. Poor Kyron; poor parents. I guess he doesn’t want to be questioned much by Kafoury either. I figure Art will stick around until the next Sheriff election which is not too far away, then Reese will execute his real personnel plan. Funny if his running buddy Marshman retires until the next Chief and comes over to grab some more PERS.

    Unfortunately Kafoury praised Reese to the heavens in this month’s yearly State of the County speech. The voters need a new County Chair.

  28. Rose says:

    I didn’t mean vera P was the opportunist. She’s great, and knows mcso hx inside out. I meant the Sheriff and his PR man were opportunist to use her politically in black hx month after years of how she’s been treated in the organization. Should’ve been a chief deputy long ago.

  29. Rose says:

    I didn’t read yr snark alert far enough Blink. Paragr 3:
    “I have to say- that is an impressive option to head off an FBI investigation for potential corruption of an agency who booted ALL of their former Sheriffs alleging same (dunno about prior to Giusto).
    B”

    Right, Art will not only head of a corruption investigation of mcso’s work on Horman if it threatens (which it won’t. imo Kafoury has a crush on this Sheriff.) but he will argue justifications as a seasoned LE business manager and as part of that investigationa] and “its needs” for the agency on all that OT spending!!!

    Moreover, he’s in a position to call his FBI “friends” and block a case transfer there imo. Not that the parents will ever zealously, publically advocate for same.

    I think tho he’s also a 2 year placeholder for a friend of Reese, most likely = marshman if he does not become “Chief.”

  30. Rose says:

    and despite that youtube video (what’s on the mcso site is also on an mcso youtube channel)has not been written up by any reporter on any press in Portland nor TV media despite the fact such a hire should have been major local news. I thought crime and courts was Maxine’s area of “connection” and expertise. The media’s complete silence since last summer smacks of collusion at Reese’s request.

  31. Rose says:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/04/logan_kitzhaber_apologizes_to.html#incart_river_home

    no wonder Kitz father checked him out of the hospital fast. likely managed his withdrawal at home. why has no one investigated where son got those prescription pills? If father, could cost his med license.

  32. Rose says:

    Did Art and Reese work together on that notorious entrapment and sting of the teenager?
    I always thought the Rudy sting was Art’s idea given his predominant LE background over the years was
    managing drug dealor cases.

  33. MCSO sting 100%. FBI ops know who the friendlies are, have enough gas in their vehicles and know how to use a designated private radio channel.

  34. Rose says:

    true, Blink. But Art is fluent in Spanish,
    and I’d like whether he had a chat with Rudy,
    and evaluated his story to mcso, on record.


    Typically the field office head has no direct contact investigatively- I know the identity and basic creds of the FBI field assets assigned directly to Kyron’s case (male and female). I think the decision to call in CARD by Staton was one of the best decisions he made on the case. The second was probably his public commentary re he was not sure they were going down the right path investigatively or (words to that effect) followed by the statement re Kyron had actually been seen later in the morning than they thought he had been originally. It is my personal opinion at this point it caused the rift between Gossen and his reports. Exit Gossen, stage left.

    Have trained in their protocol in both investigative and profiling ares, one of the things I can say without reservation is that they do not deviate from process- my work on this case seems to support that as well. In assist mode, it is my opinion RSE had no direct contact with any FBI assets and most definitely not the Portland Field office director.

    B

  35. Rose says:

    and Art could suggest a sting of Terri without
    being involved in its planning or execution.
    that is, idea, not operations.

  36. Rose says:

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/arthur-balizan-named-special-agent-in-charge-of-portland-division
    note: balizan had a period embedded in the DEA. He worked 2000-2002 in Sacramento.
    His long runs were in San Jose CA. A phone call from him onbehalf of MCSO to LE in
    Sacramento or Counties abutting Santa Clara re the only Kyron suspect would carry real weight.
    imo Reese did not mention his involvement in the Kyron investigation in 2010 randomly when
    introducing Balizan to his public via youtube in Sept 2016. I expect Balizan even
    then was making next move suggestions (not operations).

    I do not intend to disrespect in any way- but Balizan’s civilian post is considered pretty low level for a former SAC.

    http://www.opb.org/news/article/new-portland-fbi-leader-impressed-local-cooperation/

    B

  37. Rose says:

    Reese was the only person in all of Portland govts that Balizan informed of his longterm sting of the boy who’d either just turned 18 or was 17 in Aug 2009. Reese logistically supported Aug 2009-Nov 2010. Sting purpose for FBI appears to have been dramatic publicity (Xmas tree crowd bombing) to ensure Portland rejoined its JTTF.
    https://www.google.com/amp/www.oregonlive.com/articles/5343320/commissioner_saltzman_urges_po.amp

    I feel like I can’t accurately portray my opinion on the JTTF concept in a comment reply so I will simply say in my work I have seen its outcome as a rousing success and I have seen it result in the incarceration of ranking officers and serious criminals avoided prosecution as a result.
    B

  38. Rose says:

    @That’s why I think he’s transitional as a
    favor to Reese whom he obviously kept
    an ongoing relationship with. A placeholder,
    but more. This is the same old 3rd division
    but a change from a chief deputy promotional
    position to civilian. And it was the promotional
    path out if Corectolns of the 3 Divs. In fact that’s who had
    gotten the job after Linda was made to retire.
    Can you imagine the Union complaints to State agencies
    and the public if anyone other than Baltizan was the gurst
    civilian Div head? Art’s interest? If you retire from a Fed govt job,
    imo in 5 yrs you can retire from a second different govt agency
    with a second pension.

    The FBI investigates corrupt LE. It can’t be disputed from Giusto to Staton MCSO is absolutely ripe for that allegation, investigation and oversight. The immigration (ICE) issues and Reese’s position on them are on the record. The best way I know of to both prevent and if one cannot, “navigate” such a Federal probe is to hire one of theirs.

    I don’t know how much Balizan or Reese know about the content of Kyron’s abduction investigative files but I doubt it is substantive. It would probably shock you (or not) to learn how much latitude to investigators a “need to know” only classification grants superiors. It is common in high profile. Not advised, but with an agency with zero field experience for comparison, it floats.

    B

  39. Rose says:

    from yr link just above Blink: “But the top of the FBI’s priority list is investigating threats to national security. These cases pose thorny challenges for the Portland Division.” His method of investigating was designing a sting of a 17-18 old after enticing him themselves. His mandate was to get Portland back in the JTTF.
    Says he’s an “avid cyclist”. Articles have called Underhill an avid cyclist.
    I bet he wants to cap his career by bringing Terri to justice. Most likely thru running a long
    range sting of some sort.

    I can only speak to my research, interviews and sources on that- it is my position that not even the “Terri must be involved (with SZ)” hold outs believe there is any evidence against her or leads to SZ. As Tony Young said- “If not Terri, than who ?” Except we know about SZ or the “who” and so does he, so there’s that.

    It continues to stupify me that if LE (and Young) are so convinced she is involved, What was ever the harm in divulging (even if only for public safety concerns and further negligence/liability to Skyline) SZ in the first place? Isn’t it feasible under that premise it could produce leads to her? How can one claim LE exemption from public information due to open investigation if one does not his identity?

    B

  40. Rose says:

    one wonders then who was rse’s translator within
    mcso as he was initially interviewed, as the sting was
    planned, and the sting unfolded?

    My guess is the undercover DEA agent for all. Most definitely prior to and during the sting- as I recall from the transcript RSE introduced him as a cousin (to the best of my recollection).

    A bigger issue I wonder is who was his counsel when he signed his immunity deal for his grand jury testimony which included the agreement not to deport him. I can’t imagine that going over well as a discovery item in the current climate for sure. Engel did not indicate he used an interpreter in his conversation with Sanchez Estrada, but RSE certainly did for his deposition (Houze). By law, any US citizen must be provided counsel if an action before the court could result in their incarceration (loss of liberty) I don’t know how that works for a non US citizen ( well, I do, but I don’t know his technical classification status).

    B

  41. Rose says:

    originally Baltizan appeared at the
    church fairly regularly side by side
    with mcso spokesmen early on.

  42. Rose says:

    Reese was sworn in on Aug 17
    https://www.google.com/amp/www.oregonlive.com/articles/19117482/former_portland_police_chief_m.amp

    Business Div had been redesigned and Art
    physically in Portland at work by two weeks later in early Sept.
    One suspects Art was a significant consultant
    to Reese at least from the time Staton “designated”
    him as interim and Commissioners approved him–
    April 21: https://www.google.com/amp/www.oregonlive.com/articles/18420505/mike_reese_approved_as_sheriff_dan_staton.amp

  43. T. Ruth says:

    So why is it a secret as to who was Kyron’s first period math teacher?

    I don’t know that it is?
    B

  44. T. Ruth says:

    Was para RS working for Kumon when he was listed as a Skyline teacher in 2009-2010. The only conclusion I can draw is that he must have been since his own Kumon instructor profile says he’s been with Kumon for 8 years. https://www.kumon.com/portland-hollywood/instructor

    In 2012/2013 he was a Kumon instructor teaching at Progress Ridge (Beaverton), according to this, (used to have his photo there).

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NYsl8kEsPVIJ:gramor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Discover_Progress-Ridge_TownSquare_November2012.pdf+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
    ***********

    My question is do these Kumon instructors farm themselves out to schools during the mornings as tutors or special instructors and then go to their own after-school classrooms at the Kumon centers at 3:00 pm?

    I see there are quite a few of these centers around Ptown, one is located on Laidlaw, which if one was traveling from Skyline El to that center, it would happen to include many of the roads that LE was initially looking at. (e.g., germantown, kaiser, laidlaw). (And of course Laidlaw was all the road that Storm’s school was on.)

    Anywho, Kumon is a worldwide network of independent franchisees, so it makes me wonder just exactly what sort of vetting process is given (if any) to these owners and instructors. Or do they just “buy” their way in?

  45. Rose says:

    @Blink. what was the name of that hotshot gun
    attorney Terri initially had, and where did he go?
    what is the posture of that case?

    Adam Richards is currently her counsel of record in the misdemeanor gun case. To refresh, the original charges against her were dismissed due to lack of probable cause and were refiled by the ADA directly.

    If by posture you mean current disposition it is pending trial. I am not an attorney although I do practice in the criminal defense litigation field for Attorney clients on occasion AND nobody asked me, lol, but I wonder if the matter isn’t best suited for a bench trial based on the facts as I understand them. No doubt its a fair assumption the ADA is well aware Moulton will not testify in her defense (and that no negative inferences can result )and Judges do not like the concept of spiking the jury pool. In my view, that was absolutely the impetus for Iboshi’s latest misfire (Rea).
    To me, that is telling.

    Overall, and I have shared this with Ms. Moulton, it is my firm belief that at the behest of MCSO/MCDA and those ultimately acting as “their agents” through some means, she will continue to be the target of LE for arrest until something “sticks” with the goal being either incarceration whereby they can use the ole inmate snitch ruse, inmate snitch is actually an undercover agent, outgoing inmate mfh (lol), recorded conversations or simply the appearance to the public that they can justify a few million spent on the rabbit hole excursions that are now longer and deeper than Trump’s intended wall. If there were any evidence to implicate this woman in her son’s abduction none of this would be happening. Is it me or does anyone else think it is as effed up as the day is long the attempts that have been executed to get this woman alone without her attorney instead of just picking up the damn phone and scheduling an interview with her attorney?

    What an insult to proper, professional and effective investigators and LEA’s all over the US.

    B

  46. A Texas Grandfather says:

    LOL at the link regarding Balizan’s remarks about the spanish language. What this guy knows about language and its variants could be hidden in the bottom of a thimble.

    If that is the type of person heading the FBI unit in Portland, they are no better off than what they had previously.

    Mexican, Columbian and Spain all speak and write different dialects of Spanish. The Central American versions of Spanish contain a lot of Indian words that are never found in true Spanish.

  47. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose
    O/T

    I am concerned about your daughter’s understanding of music theory that she will definitely need for her new assignment. If I understood you correctly on a previous post, she does not read, but plays by ear. I hope I miss-understood and she does read. There is a site on the web(LearnMusicTheory.net) with 31 Pdf files on music theory which includes clefs and counting methods. This one is good,but it does not have a good explanation of common and compound time signatures.

    This may be helpful to T. Ruth as well.

  48. Rose says:

    So getting a misdemeanor conviction is the first step. next one will permit incarceration.
    she’s making a mistake staying in Art’s CA professional LE stomping grounds.
    Needs to get to Seattle or ilk asap after this. (btw imo he’s a hangin’
    judge seeking to make a name.)When they sent to CA for their ping stuff,
    Art formerly handled cybercrime in San Jose. I bet he suggested the forensic asset used.
    ——
    As to RSE, aren’t we glad Trump/Sessions honor no prior “deals” with illegals?

  49. Rose says:

    imo lady should’ve stayed in Portland in
    2010 and applied for a pps para job and
    sued pps (reputation damage tort) when denied.
    and then gone in portland for any govt secretarial job.

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