Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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pps was typo for ppb
sorry all the typos. In a Conf today.
plus those darn cataracts….
but it is importants locals know this was a preplanned JTTF enterprise directed by Marshman, not Hales, and the First or Fourth (I forget my numbers) Estate is on Board.
ot @kewl, if the City Auditor says it needs changes, imo it does.
http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/326303-205969-with-police-contract-in-the-balance-mayor-hales-urging-public-to-help-line-up-votes
I don’t think the controvesy is in the salary inceases, but what accountability measures the Unions are accepting in return. Ideally, the 2 issues are separate. But the City will never get yes Union votes for accountability measures unless raises are held hostage.
Thanks Quizzi. Does anyone know what the little room(s) off the library is used for marked 105A & 105B? Just curious. And the little red dots there, is that another set of stairs that lead outside to the back?
Someone on the older thread I linked earlier asked a good question. Most of the kids in that picture Blink posted have their jackets on and the poster wondered why. Made me wonder if this room is 109 and if this is the same room where the kids went out the door to release butterflies and check their little garden, that Stenson said he saw kids outside of?
Do both of those rooms, 109 and 110 have doors within the actual room that lead to outside? If these rooms are in the basement, then they each have a stairwell that leads up from the room to the ground level?
I always had thought Kyron exited 109 with SZ into the hall and then the went outside, is that incorrect?
So if SZ exists the room, with Kyron in tow as soon as the door is shut behind them, Kyron could have been incapacitated in a sunken stairwell, put into a container and taken away? No one inside or out would have been able to see this, unless they were standing right there, not even Stenson because the stairwell is sunken, would that be correct? (Similar to the photo here in Quizzi’s collection: http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/quizzi1/media/School%20Video%20Image%20Captures/08_zpsea83b4db.jpg.html?sort=3&o=45) Just noodling.
I know I’ve seen photos of that side of the school before, but I’m having trouble finding them.
And is 112 a service room, boiler/electrical whatever?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/
(photo of classroom with some of the kids in jackets ^^, is this 109?)
A Texas Grandfather says:
October 6, 2016 at 11:32 pm
MBS
In regard to Kyron’s size. If I remember correctly, his height was reported to be 43″ which is very small for his age.
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Sizes –
Before I became a counselor, I taught grades 3-6. Then I did an internship in middle school. The smallest middle school boys constantly wore jackets, even on very warm days. Many boys would tell me privately they did it to look bigger so no one would bother them.
I’m fairly tall, but when I moved to high school, it was quite different to be surrounded by students as big as or much bigger than I was – AND who were supposed to pay attention to me. It was a loud place, filled with energy and conflicts of ideas and wills. I quickly (and fearfully, at first) realized that staff was way outnumbered by the students and definitely didn’t match up in physical power. I had to ask myself why DID they do what I said and how DID we keep control (in general). (I couldn’t wear a big jacket all day.)
We did it together – by offering respect, making students and families our partners to reach goals we agreed on, and believing in the best while being prepared for the unpredictable that often occurred. As long as we conducted business that way, I had great confidence and pride in the students and staff of my school. I strongly believe any agency, city government, business, or other group (even families) can succeed with this kind of thinking.
I had a grandson Kyron’s age and height in 2010. I now have another small grandson the age and size Kyron was in 2010. I’ve watched them, and other children, play so many times. What always grabs my attention is when they play hide and seek inside the house. They find the smallest of places and manage to bend their neck and wrap their arms and legs up into a ball or rectangle shape in order to fit in and not be seen. I don’t like to think about it, but I’m certain someone could have hidden Kyron in a space much smaller than the average person (or inexperienced detective) would guess, particularly if the one being hidden was not conscious.
I don’t see any doors coming out of that side of the building except the one that leads to the hallway, just windows.
(Am I looking at the correct side of the building for room 109?)
http://s780.photobucket.com/user/gwenabob/media/Skyline%20School/SkylineSchool027.jpg.html
T. Ruth
In regards to your question about the number and placement of stairs to the outside go out to google earth and search on Skyline School at Portland, Oregon. When you get the school site up on your screen you will see that the back of the school is facing North with the main parking lot on the East side and to the West is the soccer field on a lower elevation.
The original building is the section running East to West or West to East. Some additions have been made with classrooms extending from the West side towards the North. Use the plus sign on the Google navigation to move you eye level down to around 1300 ft.to get more detail. Then use the ground view icon to the roadway (skyline blvd.)to view the front of the school. The little Google ground car has been in the area taking photos at ground elevation and even in the North parking lot at the rear of the school. By using the compass arrows at the top of the Google control panel, one can rotate a complete circle and experience standing and viewing at any place the little man icon is moved on the ground.
You will be able to see the outside staircase from the West edition from a position in the North parking lot. By rotation, you will also be able to see the rear of the main building and the gym extending North above the cafeteria. Alongside the gym on its West side is a covered area that has a slope going down to the basement area and a chimney extending above the roof of the gym. On a drawing of the building, I found that the sloped area is actually a ramp that connects to the boiler room. There isn’t enough light for the camera to produce details at the bottom of the slope.
In 1938, the year of the original construction of Skyline, the Bonneville Dam was still under construction. Portland had a population of near 100,000. Electricity was probably generated by steam turbines somewhere near the river. The boilers to produce the steam were either fired by coal or fuel oil delivered to the plant via barge or ship. It takes a lot of electrical energy to produce steam heat in a building and because of that fact, most school buildings built during the era between 1900 and 1950 used coal for heating until sufficient oil supplies were found in California to ship it to other states by barge or ship. My take is that the ramp down to the boiler room was first used for coal and later fuel oil.
There was no large natural gas pipeline in the Pacific Northwest until the Northwest Pipeline from West Texas was completed in the fall of 1958. I did not see a meter run for natural gas on the property which makes me believe that fuel oil is used to fire the boilers for heat. If electrical heat were to be used, there would be a small electrical substation containing transformers and capacitors to provide sufficient current for heating the boiler. Electrical current is like water in a pipe while voltage is analogous to the water pressure. Volts x amps equal watts. 1000 watts equals one kilowatt. One horsepower is 768 watts. (physics class is closing for today).
If one wants to see the wind turbine, move the little man icon down to the roadway near the soccer field and rotate the compass towards the front of the school. It is a very small generator located on a tall mono-pole tower. The blades are not long, but the tower is tall to get it above the trees North of the school. Wind turbines require unobstructed air flow to work efficiently.
If one wants to know about the early days of Portland, go to Wikipedia and read the article. Corruption in a city often begins early and Portland is no exception.
@T. Ruth says:
October 8, 2016 at 2:22 pm
If the question is do Rooms 109 and 110 have direct doors to the outside, the answer appears to be yes, if they are functional. This view from Bing shows doors to the left of a series of five windows in each room. The doors seem to open directly to the sidewalk by the classrooms.
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Bing%20School%20Images/01b%20From%20West%20Closer_zpsofuud6fo.jpg
@T. Ruth says:
October 7, 2016 at 1:00 pm
It looks like 105b, 106, and 106b are used as base rooms for Special Ed and IB staffs.
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/Staff-2010-2011-03_zpsflkyomkk.jpg
The School layout we have been using is not particularly current. The last date on it is 1977. Although there probably haven’t been major changes since then, walls have probably been moved, added and removed since then. It appears in the layout there is no direct hall from the 104/cafeteria end to the 106/109/110 end of the basement. The red dashes seem to indicate modifications made in 1977. The black dots may indicate an added hall to connect the basement ends or a removal of a wall (and hall) to enlarge the library. It would be good to know the June, 2010 state of the basement with regard to a connecting hall.
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/Skyline%20Layout%20Staff%2023_zps31mwnmkf.jpg
@Quizzi. Are you saying one of the three 10– numbered rooms you listed was the spec ed pullout room with bathroom? SPED Resources maintain their desks in their pullout room. If so, whatca bet in K-1 Kyron used that bathroom at times? Teri would know. @MBS, If George MS was temporary Purgatory for Keefer, it was temporary Hell for Terrones, SPED. He was not on the 6/4 List, but there was a para sub, iirc a female.
I assumed these K exterior doors were like all
eled classroom exterior doors: opens out to egress,
but must be opened by someone inside to get back in.
A County with worse SPED mgmt than Multnomah:
http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2016/10/video_of_special_needs_student.html#incart_river_mobile_home
What’s a theraputic staff member or any school staff doing calling a student “girlfriend.”
Thanks ATG, now I know where the wind turbine sits.
& Thanks Quizzi, that is my question. So rooms 110 and 109 appear to have doors that go directly outside, so technically those rooms are not in the basement, as I see no stairwell, right? I was thinking, since it was called a “basement” that those windows must up quite high in the classrooms.
Blink has told us that SZ came in and went out of the same door, so yes, my question is which door? The door that leads out to the hallway or the door that leads directly outside of 109 toward the soccer field. Are there separate doors to the outside of all the classrooms? If not, why those rooms and would they remain unlocked from the outside for someone to just enter the classroom from outside the school?
To add, I guess there could be a stairwell going down from the outside behind the door into the classroom? IDK, strange to call it a basement if it’s on ground level.
Thanks too for the info on the little rooms 105B, I was just wondering if they were perhaps empty that day. It appears 105B would have been being used as some of the people who use it were there that day. However what is 105A, looks like it has a door into the library as well. Storage maybe? IDK
Anywho, thanks, I’m just noodling what rooms may have been empty.
http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/quizzi1/media/Skyline%20School/SkylineClassrooms.jpg.html
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9183.0;wap2
Terri told us that Kyron returned his library books that morning first thing, did she go in with him?
Especially when you consider TH and Kyron were on opposite ends of the upstairs hallway, near different stairwells, if I understand correctly. Did they both come up the same stairwell together? So which is it, I wonder?
One stairwell goes up to the gym, which makes more sense the way TH has described their parting. So they came up on the cafeteria side of the building, but if they would have maybe gone thru the library or the hall by the library, depending on those dots.
If they came up thru the other stair well, their parting would be TH dropping him off at his room and continuing on.
They came up separate stairwells, but does that mean they weren’t together downstairs? and if there is no real hallway, how would they have come up at the same time?
Someone said TH was in the gym (without Kyron, I thought), so did he go downstairs without her, and maybe met her in the gym?
Quizzical says:
October 9, 2016 at 2:00 am
snip>
The black dots may indicate an added hall to connect the basement ends or a removal of a wall (and hall) to enlarge the library. It would be good to know the June, 2010 state of the basement with regard to a connecting hall.
per Entrix (no mention of the ’77 remodel)
The interior layout of the main section of the school consists of a single loaded hallway plan. The original school building was rectangular. In 1948 two classrooms were added to the northwest side of the building, and in 1949 the gymnasium wing was added on the northeast side of the school. Flooring consists of a mixture of 12″x12″ linoleum tile, hardwood, and concrete. Tubular fluorescent light fixtures provide illumination for the classrooms and the corridors.
The classrooms are primarily rectangular. The door to the classrooms in the original portion of the building is set within an arched opening. Some of the classrooms feature wooden built-ins including book cases, cabinets, and closets. The finishes in the remodeled classrooms are simpler than in the main portion of the school and consist of birch cabinets and minimal molding.
The double height gymnasium space is lined with birch panels. A stage located on the northwest end of the room facilitates its use as an auditorium. Built-in bleachers are located on the south side of the room.
Alterations/Integrity
The most significant alterations to Skyline School occurred in 1948 and 1949 when the gymnasium and classroom wings were added to the west and east side of the school. In 1956 a mechanical room was added to the north side of the west wing. Other alterations include the installation of ceiling tiles (1964), library remodels (1966), and replacement of windows in 1994. Other spaces including the principal’s office, kitchen, multi-purpose room were remodeled and enlarged in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
http://www.pps.net/cms/lib8/OR01913224/Centricity/Domain/58/Historic%20Building%20Assessment/Skyline_ILS.pdf
@atg. If Skyline ES is heated by fuel oil in this era, rather than
natural gas, imo that is shockingly expensive.
large old drafty uninsulated bldg.
BOE should have torn it down &
rebuilt awhile ago.
T. Ruth
In looking at the drawing from your link, my first question is the drawing is likely not to scale. The red dots can only indicate an area to be changed. We have no indication of walls being removed or built.
The references to the numbers and the years of construction indicate a project identification. These drawings are primarily used for showing the room assignments for personnel across several years.
Sorry to stray from the room number thing, but I am personally only interested if the SPED pullout room with bathroom was adjacent or proximate to MacBeth’s K/l room which Kyron was in previously and visited on 6/4 with Teri.
I found an interesting site I cannot get to load on my “omputer from hell” it seems even more shitty software has autodownloaded like something called corona purporting to track yr every keystoke and read yr mind.
So the url has intlharbor & one can google that. it is a nonprofit composed of former spec ops personnel going after human trafficking and abducted persons.
I have posted episodically this abduction execution has the feel of a trained former spec ops person. it was so fluid and effective.
OR and WA forests have played host over the years to both military and private contractor spec ops training sites, and perhaps some residual trainees remained in state.
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This comment is not intended politically, but is intended to comment on innovative investigative methodology. Never envisioned by Pitkin, but surely in retrospect useful. Blink said a few times, and I agreed, a Town Hall meeting would have been useful to progress the investigation through collaborative (bricks and mortar) crowdsourcing. And today I’ve learned the bricks and mortar are not necessary, in fact imo may be a hindrance.
I have been pondering for several days the application of the crowdsourcing Twitter success on the WAPo front wrt Trump expenditures (or not) to abduction investigations such as Kyron’s. I have been lightly interested. skimmed Fahrenthold who first sought to ascertain Trump giving, then he moved on to Foundation giving, and there having stumbled on anomalies, he proceeded to crowd sourcing the whereabouts of individual Fdtn purchases.
First a purchased pic he sought whereabouts of was found by a FL reporter in a bar in a golf resort he had to check in to to find, and so on, until a couple days ago Farenthold was in hot pursuit of a painting no 3′s location, a $1,000 pic the charity paid for at an event in his rental Trump tower space (you rent me and pay mega bucks for wine and food and space and I’ll throw in a thou for a shitty pic from my Fdtn). And so, when I read the WAPo got a video, I immediately knew it was Fahrenthold crowdsourcing.
It seems when people see results, and they know something along the same lines, it is irresistible apparently to put the next tidbit out there to the reporter.
So it came to me what if Pitkin (not that O, WW, or PT managing editors or owners would have allowed such journalism) had Twitter crowdsourced this abduction perp?
The first issue would be ruling out spurious reports on line by cranks. Well, the mcso tip line, and Kelly’s tipline justice4kyron undoubtedly got those, so what’s the diff?
Second issue, fear by witnesses. SZ will come after me. Solution, just use an unidentifying twitter handle.
Third issue, “integrity of the investigation.” This LE argument would be crap. First, it would take credible evidence to charge. If the evidence that came in by Twitter crowdsourcing proved credible, hooray. If not, just like the tipline, discarded.
If the evidence was solid, it would have to be given to Defendant when charged anyway. So what the heck.
With Fahrenthold one solid tip success begat more. Drew in relevant information. that is what was desirable in Horman. One person sees a credible tip gets results, knows “I got something similar,” so puts it up there. These significant bits of info, going public, function like badges of honor to the contributors.
It seems to me it must be a print reporter who does the crowdsourcing, then uses the usual levers of journalism to confirm, to double source if possible, and to ask for comment from other principals like PPS or MCSO.
Would O, WW, or PT back a reporter crowdsourcing tips on Kyron’s abduction on Twitter, heck no. but as we have seen with Fahrenthold it would be a very effective method to further an investigation imo.
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@ATG. try as I might, I cannot connect this reporter to Sissy. Here is some background:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/fashion/weddings/elizabeth-lewis-and-david-fahrenthold.html?_r=0
I apologise for my post-debate uses above of the
adjectival potty words S…. and C….
Watched too many reruns of The Pacer
stalking to be in a good mood. Actually, my poor language reflected
lazy thinking. I’d been thinking about Twitter crowdsourcing a
child abduction being the modern equivalent of an Amber Alert
for a few days and finally just wanted to post something quickly.
The construction of Skyline school indicates the end of an era for school construction. This school was built during the Great Depression. Money was tight or non-existant. Heating the building was by steam radiators with steam feeds and returns to the boiler room. Fuel oil at the time was cheap. A barrel of oil was less than three dollars.
The Depression was a double dip action. First there was the stock market crash in 1929. Next because of the federal government actions,the economy began to slowly climb upward only to be hit again in 1937 where it fell back to a level not seen since 1913.
Skyline was a typical rural school design of the time. The district needed a school in the area and built what they could afford. The original building probably could accommodate a student population of 100 to 150 students. The hallways were designed too narrow and were never improved. Ingress and egress is available at the front door, the East side and West side in the original construction. The additions over time added other outside access points.
I agree with Rose. Instead of making additions to a poorly designed building, the District should have acquired land and built a new modern building. The land where the soccer field is located is a much better site.
erose, thanks for finding that entrix report again. I can clearly see the two doors off those rooms, 109 & 110, but it’s weird that their drawing, doesn’t show them as being there. Makes me wonder if they weren’t functional anymore.
@Blink, which door did SZ enter and exit 109 from? Hallway or outside?
If I recall correctly without reviewing my notes, hallway, past Susan Hall area.
B
@T. Ruth,
Millie the librarian was going around to all the classrooms to check with kids to see if they were returning their library books. Kyron handed his to her directly in front of myself and Porter
@erose,
We went down the stairs together that are by his classroom to go visit McBeth. When we went up the stairs he went up the ones by the office, I went up the ones by the cafeteria which tops out at the gym. I was not in the gym that day. I did see keeper at the threshold of the gym and spoke to him momentarily he was rather busy.
Correction. Keefer.
was Susan Hall in main office?
Yes.
B
T. Ruth says: October 10, 2016 at 12:32 pm
“@Blink, which door did SZ enter and exit 109 from? Hallway or outside?
If I recall correctly without reviewing my notes, hallway, past Susan Hall area.”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-9/#comment-2256625
Pardon my wont of attention to detail but I thot S Hall was in the Main Office at the South elevation front door, the floor K’s classroom was on, and from which T waved goodbye. I thought 109, the SZ pickup site, was down one floor on what would be the lower level of the 2 story addition. Are you saying SZ entered and exited (with K I presume) on the upper level thru the main South entrance?
no, office on first floor down hall
B
anyone know the useage of stand alone one story addition D?
presumeably 1st Flr elevation.
http://www.pps.net/cms/lib8/OR01913224/Centricity/Domain/58/Historic%20Building%20Assessment/Skyline_ILS.pdf
I wonder this too as Entrix never made mention of a ’77 remodel, though they noted a window upgrade.
A Texas Grandfather says:
October 9, 2016 at 10:30 pm
snip>
The red dots can only indicate an area to be changed. We have no indication of walls being removed or built.
looks like brad avakian, now running for Sec of State, shows leadership and bankrupted Sweet Cakes when an LGBT couple felt emotionally distressed when their order was rejected on religious grounds, but he flips off an older Muslim woman with imo a far better case:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/10/islamic_woman_who_wouldnt_shak.html#incart_river_mobileshort_home Iirc he is from a faith with a history of religious conflict with Islam.
wrt “no, office on first floor down hall
B”
I gather the level which
housed 109 was also S Hall’s & the
Main Office location level then.
So which exact door did SZ egress the
bldg from with Kyron after they departed 109?
And, on the upper elevation, the original old bldg South Elevation Entrance, which pictures as the Main Entrance, what rooms abut that entrance inside? Classrooms if not an Office? That is weird to me that the Keefer-Hall location is downstairs in the after-added portion of this property.
Rose
You and I know about “Sissy” Fahrenthold and her prominent family in Texas politics, but few of the other posters would likely know. The article gives little information regarding family connections. He could be a cousin or other connection to the family.
erose
The window upgrade could have been the replacement of wood-framed single pane windows with metal-framed double pane glass for somewhat better insulation in an effort to save energy for heating and possibly air-conditioning. Wood frames were all that was likely available when the school was initially constructed. Wood frames with proper construction and sealing are actually more efficient than metal as far as blocking heat transfer.
One of my school buddies father had a contract with Anderson windows to construct two window designs in his workshop. At 10 years of age we got an opportunity to help him build the windows. He had a motorized table saw, but all the rest was done by hand. The frames were built with A grade yellow pine with zero knots or other defects. We began with doing the sanding and then helping with the assembly. We were not allowed to use the table saw.
I think I’m all messed up. I thot ya’ll were discussing 109 as
Mathews’ room, but it’s dawning on me that was K’s classroom no. upstairs?
T. Ruth
Look at the floor plan again. The doors are in the East wall of the hallway. The google photos show the doors. They do have locks and likely a panic bar style of opening mechanism. That is likely a U-shaped round bar across the interior of the door that connects to the lock. The push-bars that we see on exterior doors built after 1970 could be there, but I doubt it. I would think that safety codes would require all exterior doors to be operational.
note Hank & Skyline.
http://www.pdxmonthly.com/articles/2014/11/5/is-this-the-best-way-to-educate-portlands-autistic-kids-october-2014
no pullout room.
Inclusion for all at all times.
Overcrowded classes with overwhelmed teachers.
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Imo this is sort of school Terri coukd’ve enjoyed if the bios
hadn’t disabled her and Rivera-Green didnt stalk her.
Rose, Good question on room 112. If you look on your map @ your link designated D, it states it is a classroom addition from 1956. If you look at what is downstairs underneath it on Quizzicals photobucket map, it says mechanical. Wonder how loud the mechanical room is and if they would put a classroom directly above it.
o/t ATG, You reminded me of a commercial building I restored. It was a 1919 lodge and had lots of wooden windows. My friend and former shop teacher built wooden windows (to replace a few damaged ones) that match the original windows, but in my neck of the woods we use fir, vertical cut, no knots. There was a lot of sanding and he used a few different jigs. Once stained, they looked identical to the old style (which swung out on hinges) other than the energy efficient glass.
Didn’t TH say Kyron went to see his old teacher McBeth (rm 104 downstairs)? If so I think he/they would have used the gym stairs and he would have gone down the hall to Porters (rm 213 upstairs) then after she left, he would have gone down the stairs near Porters room and ended up in Matthews room (109 downstairs).
Room 112 (D on map) does not look like it has inside access to the rest of the school. It looks like it has one exterior door and solid walls around it.
http://www.pps.net/cms/lib8/OR01913224/Centricity/Domain/58/Historic%20Building%20Assessment/Skyline_ILS.pdf
@TRuth.
Per Quizzi, Mathews’ room was 110, not 109.
“T. Ruth says:
October 5, 2016 at 3:34 pm
@quizzical says:
August 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm”
floorplan
http://s231.photobucket.com/user/acreesefamily/media/Photos/SkylineElem.jpg.html
Mathews 110 was next to weird afterthot room 112.
On this level are Library, Music, Cafeteria–all candidates for something carried in.
Porter had 213 on the main level, last room on South side to the west stairs?
(I think TH said that on Phil?)
Main Office is on Main Level by front south elevation door and presumeably that was Hall’s station.
TRuth asked what door SZ entered and exited 109 from?
Maybe she meant 110 Mathews.
Thank You Rose, are we all clear on logistics or do I need to dive in the archive at first chance?
B
How could that be on Hall’s hall upstairs?
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T. Ruth says: October 10, 2016 at 12:32 pm
“@Blink, which door did SZ enter and exit 109 from? Hallway or outside?
If I recall correctly without reviewing my notes, hallway, past Susan Hall area.”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-9/#comment-2256625
excellent post by quizzi, worth review.
she too is talking 108.
quizzical says:
August 16, 2013 at 12:49 am
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-9/#comments
excuse my typo meant
she too talked 109 for Matthew.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-4/
Rose, click on the above link. We are assuming that Matthews taught in room 109, in 2009-10 school year, as no one has ever found the actual school handbook for that year. Matthews taught in that room in 2008-09 school year, so the assumption is she did not change classrooms and this is from Blink:
VW: Porter was no longer at the school when Kyron was discovered missing.
I posted links to the maps of the doors and classrooms. K-1 is not in the basement. CR109 is the room Kyron left with SZ.
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@TRuth. TY. I see. 2009-10 was missing from yr repost of Quizzi’/ 2013 post yesterday.
T. Ruth says:
October 5, 2016 at 3:34 pm
@quizzical says:
August 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm
109 it is.
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I better quit posting til after 11/8; I’m a basket case but don’t have Malty’s sister to call.
Each morning I google Trump to see the latest; my phone history is overwhelmed by
my frantic pacing.
LOL clear your temp files just like your PC
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@erose. Actually this shows Mech is upstairs and an unlabelled Room is down.
Perhaps electrical up.
Perhaps janitorial down.
http://s231.photobucket.com/user/acreesefamily/media/Photos/SkylineElem.jpg.html
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9000.385;wap2
This poster said the teacher list here was from the 09-10 school handbook, but it shows no classrooms #’s.
I wonder if maybe they were changing classrooms again in 09-10, so that’s why there’s no room numbers. ???
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2008-09 handbook:
Interesting how the student safety section of this has been redacted, if anyone out there has the 2008-09 and can tell us what this used to say, that would be nice.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UctNmkgrRZkJ:www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/sunnyside/files/school-sunnyside/Parent_Handbook_2008-Final.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
This poster on WS said they had the 2009-10 handbook and what little they posted shows only a few second floor room number assignments. Too bad. (So we do know one did at least exist.)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9sfhTM7rNf4J:www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3F106904-Does-Skyline-school-bear-any-responsibility/page29+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us