Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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Rose
I hope the eye surgery goes well. Normally, they will do one eye at a time with at least two weeks between them. Be careful of those you come in contact with to protect yourself from unwanted infections.
One of my musician friends wife just went through this for both eyes. She is in her second week after the second eye surgery was completed. She is doing well and the lenses are beginning to clear and become normal. Mrs. ATG had a single eye done ten years ago and needs the second one done. Her vision in that eye is 20/70.
Many people have a problems after the age of seventy. So far, I have escaped even though I am much more than a decade above that age.
XO
T. Ruth
Your investigations about cold cases points out the lack of standards for LEA to set a point in time for declaring a cold case. IMO any case that is a year old without a solution should be declared cold.
MCSO does not want Kyron’s case declared cold because it would reveal the poor performance of their agency.
The state of Oregon has a beautiful campus for the training of LE. However, a beautiful facility does not equate to competent teachers or a quality school. Thanks to the internet and people like out Blink, a lot of poor performance by LE is being exposed. One cannot fix a problem until it is properly identified. As long as a LEA and the criminal justice system hides details, the real problems cannot be identified and repaired.
Agreed ATG- I just wanted to add that not EVERY LEA attempts to hide mistakes or areas in need of improvement. Sometimes it takes a high profile case or a cold case to demonstrate “the need”. I have worked with several on cases- some begrudgingly and some who were happy to have progress regardless of the source because they checked their egos at the door. In my view the overall problem is the system and career path. Their is a reason the FBI is better suited for investigations like Kyron’s and should take over this case.
B
2017: is Sgt Krafve a liar? http://www.kgw.com/mobile/article/news/local/kyron-horman/new-details-in-the-search-for-kyron-horman/439863859 “the task force supervisor (Dec 2010) who was the night sgt when K went missing” Imo Staton should have left him on the night shift Skipper put him on. Btw in Stomps, Kubic (still in Investigations) was his partner.
Not sure of your question Rose, but it was a carefully worded affidavit.
Krafve retired from MCSO this past October.
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PPB’s cold case unit is not for fresh eyes imo. It’s for these are the ones we really didn’t investigate bcz
they’re not caucasian, or are gang-associated maybe, or come from That Kind of a neighborhood.
ot Not calling you out intentionally Blink, just wanted to read about it.
TY ATG. Glad you and the missus are fine. I wondered.
I spend too much time replying to the most Stable Genius in the world.
Now the whatever twitter master has the isp of my new phone,
I sink down to below 1,000 posts like with the
prior phone, but it makes me feel good.
having read Portland’s print presses for 7 yrs,
I will opine there are fewer uncheckable egos
than Reese. Agreed detective should not be
a promotion path from patrol or the river. mcso
has Corrections for thaf. Reese could advertise a
job specifically for a detective written in such a way
patrol and corrections could not qualify. ie tack on
specific post BA training courses and 2-3 years
experience in criminal investigations. And pay
commensurately. Of course then someone like
ODonnell could apply.
Your point about not all LEA fall into the category of hiding information and details is true B. However, one would think that all the research and development of techniques by the FBI and others would be examined by LE agencies all across the country in an effort to improve the teaching and direction of their officers who are assigned to the investigative functions.
I believe this is a multi-part problem that must be addressed at the selection of people level and then their proper training along with a method of accurate audits of their work.
The following article was snipped from Fox News today, 1-7-18, not saying this is Skyline Elementary, but our schools are full of people who should not be teaching children and gives me a lot to ponder in Kyron’s case.
“A former third-grade teacher from Las Vegas was arrested Thursday, accused of lewd acts with a child, authorities said.
Luis Busso, 38, who taught at Ira J. Earl Elementary School, was booked on charges including five counts of lewdness with a child under 14 and one count of attempted lewdness with a child under 14, FOX5 reported.
He became the third person linked to the school to be arrested in recent months on sexual misconduct charges, and seventh school employee arrested overall, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.
Busso was terminated May 25 after the school district conducted an investigation, a district spokeswoman said. The specific reason for his firing was unclear.
Busso is being held without bail at the Clark County Detention Center in Las Vegas, reports said.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/01/multnomah_county_needs_leaders.html#incart_river_mobile_home_pop O Ed Board mentions County Chair needs to check her ego at the door. imo Reese will not be held accountable for the Kyron investigation, or anything else, while this Chair is a Commissioner.
She recruited & appointed him to Office, behaving almost as if she had a crush in the process.
Unless he is convicted Cindy, we’ve learned he’ll just move to another State. He must be pretty disorganized to have been caught. I asked my dau today, wrt to a GP’s ability to prescribe certain meds, whether she’d let said GP do her knee surgery or see a Knee specialist orthopedic surgeon? Same with a homicide investigator (PPB obvs has a real personnel problem as well.) Asking patrol or corrections career path employees to solve a missing abducted child from a school is a ridiculous pairing. For difficult homicides, cases requiring sophisticated investigation, a parent should want a specialist, not a generalist. Why these bios don’t demand a specialist investigative team, but entrust the “surgery” to generalists, is simply sad.
Thank you for your poignant articulation of the issue- it is in no way personal to any individual professional- no doubt they all mean well. After seven and a half years it is clear well meaning and on the job training as they go is not going to solve this case and the only way that could be remotely acceptable to any parent I can think of is if they have resigned themselves to it not changing the outcome. Nobody will convince me either parent believes that this child, now teen, is being held against his will somewhere and yet allowing the investigation to be stagnant, and the second gj now dismissed.
One does not have to take my word for it any longer, and in this effort I wish to commend the State of Oregon (DPSST) for its attention and priority to transparency. The Oregon Criminal Justice Records System is online now and searchable by name or {badge} no. http://dpsstnet.state.or.us/PublicInquiry_CJ/smsgoperson.aspx
I remind anyone researching to pay attention to the sites disclaimers please.
erose if your reading this you may wish to start on the floor, instead of ending up there, lol.
Lastly Rose, I was apparently spot on with my assessment that the “new computer forensic evidence” Desiree mentioned was tied directly to training/ technology acquisition of Yandell. (see training 7/27/17 24 hours) Lots of HB 2776 training across the board in 2015)
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Cindy
The type of perverts described in your post are drawn to schools and other organizations where children are present.
The real solution is better background checking for hiring. However, due to federal discrimination laws passed in the early 1960′s, a previous employer is restricted in what they may say regarding a poor performing or potentially dangerous person when contacted for background information. This allows these people to move to another job and continue with their perversion or under performance.
We can thank the EEOC for much of these problems.
I agree with you in part ATG- because the EEOC does offer great protections to protected classes, etc, however, much of what is NOT being memorialized in files would be subject to mandatory reporting- that is negligent behavior that nobody can hide behind an agency, law or statute. It is simply covering up and in my view unlawful in a mandatory report situation.
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starting on the floor with erose.
Well, Yandell was a new, youngish hire, and had to be
given something for skill development. And IT training
is one path in LE and likely mollifies at least one bio.
Lol. Adviseable.
Very interesting on the former Roseburg and Lane County affiliations.
B
Exactly, employers cover up so how do any of us know when either sending our children to school or going to see a doctor in this case??? We are talking about a well respected hospital in this case. Of course it is allegations and out of court settlements, but 2 women? Article clipped from The Washington Post:
A top hospital knew this surgeon was accused of raping patients but kept him on staff, report says
By Lindsey Bever January 5
(iStock)
A Cleveland Clinic surgeon accused of sexually assaulting two patients was kept on staff at the prominent Ohio hospital during confidential settlement negotiations, according to a recent investigation by USA Today.
The newspaper reported Friday that Ryan Williams, a colorectal surgeon, was accused of anally raping two women during medical procedures in 2008 and 2009 — and that the hospital kept him on the payroll after the allegations, which Williams has “vehemently” denied.
Williams left the Cleveland Clinic in June, though the circumstances of his departure are unclear. A hospital spokeswoman said it “was unrelated” to the rape allegations, adding: “We don’t normally discuss personnel matters publicly.”
The surgeon now works at Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, where officials said Friday they did not know about the “disturbing allegations” when Williams was hired over the summer.
“The university takes these allegations of past misconduct seriously, and Dr. Williams was placed on administrative leave in December,” Andrew Thomas, the medical center’s chief clinical officer, said in a statement. “We are actively investigating to ensure that patient safety at Ohio State was never compromised.”
The USA Today report detailed one case in which a woman claimed that Williams put his penis in her rectum during a medical examination in April 2008.
According to a report filed by the Westlake Police Department and obtained by the newspaper, a medical assistant told investigators that the woman ran from the exam room without her pants, shouting, “Why did he do it?”
Williams reportedly replied at the time, “I don’t know.”
But USA Today reported that results from a rape kit and other tests did not show evidence of a crime, and a Cleveland Clinic spokeswoman told USA Today that Williams passed a polygraph, which was reviewed by a grand jury.
Williams was not prosecuted in criminal court.
The woman sued Williams, and that case was settled, though the terms of the agreement are confidential.
In February 2009, a woman who had gone in for a hemorrhoid procedure claimed Williams gave her two pills, then everything turned hazy. It wasn’t until 2014 that she told police she started to remember seeing him hold his penis.
Blink
It has been more than twenty years since I personally was involved in a management and hiring situation. Therefore, I need to reread the EEOC rules regarding a “protected class” and why the meet that classification. I do remember that in hiring a white male candidate for a job was given one point, a white female two points, a black or brown male three points and a black or brown female four points towards meeting the EEOC goal of a balanced work force. This meant that a company manager was sometimes forced to take a higher point person with less skills in order to be stay in balance with the EEOC requirement. That whole concept flies in the face of the second sentence of the Declaration of Independence.
There are People with physical handicaps are also included in the EEOC regulations. However, I never had to deal with that type of job candidate.
The color of one’s skin should not make one whit of difference regarding evaluating the ability of a candidate for a job to meet the performance requirements.
Agreed- and the EEOC and AEP provides for the protection from that. There are a few “schedule A” candidates that the US Govt allows to be eligible for positions and (floabw) work around the application process, but to my knowledge the candidate must still have the required job requirements as posted to be considered, and to my knowledge they are not given any preference past the ability to fast track (again, floabw) an application I am aware of. In certain hiring requirements veterans have an elevated status.
I think the overall concept is that if mutual candidates all meet the skill requirement, there are certain preferences in place- and of course the protected classes to be free from discrimination. https://www.archives.gov/eeo/policy/diversity-program.html
Of course currently the anti-harassment issue is top of mind for folks right now.
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iirc Levi was hired from patrol in the Eugene PD. He
went to U Oregon in Eugene (in Lane Cty).
Maybe he grew up in Roseburg. Roseburg would not be
on my list of hot spots to go to for training.
Discharged following probation from Roseburg PD after resigning from Lane Cty, then back to Lane briefly.
I was wondering if any relation to the former Sheriff David Yandell (retired OSP)
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Blink,
I’ve been trying to keep up lately, reading at least, work always has me busier end of year. What a great resource! Thank you. Always glad to have Rose on the floor with me. I know TRuth will be entering names too. The best way I found is to put in the name to search, click on the name, hit profile report, then hit it again. All the info shows that way. Gates, for example has until end of this year to certify for his job as Chief Deputy, as an example of why I’m planning on staying on the floor for this. Oh the names… Been missing you all.
erose dearest, thank you so much for outlining the best research process, I was definitely remiss in doing so- same issue, “real life” work stuff has me rushing constantly and I hate that.
Fwiw, to provide some context- I can tell you that in many jurisdictions I have worked (or some I am aware of) this personnel information is subject to discovery and not publicly available. I can’t discuss the case, but in the abstract I had one case where a LEO tainted evidence willingly and did not disclose it. I found it because no matter what computations I used- I COULD NOT prove out the prosecutions theory of the execution of the alleged crime (yes, intentionally vague) reminder here I had to take advanced algebra 3x but 4.0 in physics- talk about a thickhead, lol.
At any rate, it was literally the eve of trial when I did the “tap tap tap is this thing on to lead counsel and low and behold… the DA was forced to turn over evidence and then certify the background of the LEO. Otherwise, in that jurisdiction the defense was not entitled to the personnel file of the lead investigator. Footnote- the “jacket” ommitted prior discipline we found out after trial when the LEO was terminated. Public sector jobs (govt per se) have to be subject to public disclosure, period.
B
B
O’Donnell is but an error in the system, both literally and figuratively some might say.
http://dpsstnet.state.or.us/PublicInquiry_CJ/SMSGoPersonLkp.aspx?LkpBy=LN&LkpVal=O'Donnell
So.. I do NOT know why their search term (or key, whatevs) seems to NOT pick up on the apostrophe. What I did to gain that information was simply enter an O for the surname and scroll down. Not that it matters, (at least as far as I know) but generally employment records of public service jobs are required to be entered in one’s legal name?
That said, I find the publicly accessible information of these records very transparent and progressive-and I am not just saying that because it has supported my previous “points”.
B
Were at the same agency (at different times) at one point, but agreed no way to know for sure.
B
mentioned bcz with lds, same-name otherwise
distant relatives might feel close enough to aid
each other
http://www.wsiltv.com/story/37079201/human-remains-in-jefferson-county-may-be-tied-to-missing-woman
Blink this is off topic but I know there was past discussion about Beth Bentley. I just wanted to be sure that you saw this possible connection. Happy New Year y’all
I am told the probate case prompted conversation… with renewed interest thanks to a blogger.
I hope it is Beth, but I would be more than surprised if it is not.
B
Blink, Thanks for the tip. I do think this is uber transparent. I’m going to search whenever I have the time. BTW, my son had the exact same experience with algebra and physics and we have often wondered what that meant about his brain. Now I can assure him he’s ok.
Lol, that’s hysterical. Fwiw, it is my personal opinion initially algebra was difficult for me because I was undiagnosed ADD my first “college try”- and then I was so concerned I was terrible at it, I hated it, and therefore crammed it. It is interesting that both my kids are math advanced (in comparison) Blinkette does not care for anything math oriented, but she is 3.8 in advanced calc, Blink Jr 4.0. No mom jeans (genes) there LOL
B
ot Ahem, what about we brains that couldn’t do either one?
LOL LOL we are the lucky recipients of your other areas of brilliance of course
B
erose
Your post and Blinks reply had me laughing. The children all all ok. The major problem is the lack of teaching at the proper time. Math is difficult when the proper understanding is not conveyed during the basic phases of math. That means understanding number systems beginning in second or third grade.
The top performer in our high school plane geometry class was a girl. Her dad was a college level teacher in math. He grounded her well in how numbers work, making her advanced math easy to understand.
Good grades in calculus are dependent upon one’s understanding of algebra.
Kudos to Blink’s children for their grade averages.
@Rose says:
January 9, 2018 at 4:58 am
Great analogy Rose.
***********
@Blink says:
“Nobody will convince me either parent believes that this child, now teen, is being held against his will somewhere and yet allowing the investigation to be stagnant, and the second gj now dismissed. ”
*************
When was the second gj dismissed? I think that’s what Rose was asking about whether or not Krafve was accurate in May 2017. Since it appears he is now retired (interesting I never came across any “pomp or circumstance” in the MCSO tweets), then who is in charge of Kyron’s case? Has it finally been assigned to the cold case volunteers? Is he one of the volunteers? Because if all the retiree’s are volunteering for the ccsquad then, there will never be fresh eyes on this case there, that’s for sure.
I hope both KH and DY look at the profiles of these officers, there is much to think about in what their qualifications were in June 2010.
Is Yohe in charge now?
Thanks for the link Blink! I wish every state would do this, every parent/relative of missing persons deserves to know just who is handling their missing person’s (or murder whateva’)case and whether or not they have any experience in doing so.
That information will not be made public, I am presuming it because the Judge presiding over it retired and under Oregon law, the same empanelled gj must hear its entire case. A Judge retiring, to my knowledge, would make a gj either have to vote or dismiss.
B
Don’t know when your eye surgery is Rose, but I hope it goes as well as my MIL’s did a few years back. She had one done one month and the other two months later. Piece of cake. I even got to watch it on a television screen, not for the squeamish but fascinating.
Ot Actually, Blink, I hadn’t read yr answer yet & great answer. I subscribe to the add thing which I believe I had too & for that reason later in life was perfectly fine mastering thru precal when kids did it. Don’t underestimate my generation’s experience, & maybe yours, harmed by all those HS football coaches assigned to teach HS math who were thick as a plank themselves (oops reminding myself of an mcso deputy, now retired iirc, who was a HS football coach.
one of the Davidsons praised on FB the then new
detective for being “relentless, aggressive.”
Makes one wonder if Tony had access to the now
public background info.
@TRuth. My image of Yohe was positive iirc w/in his job description and attitudes. Iirc a couple years ago one of the Davidsons said on FB (Soldier’s I guess) a new detective had K as his primary assignment and he was “relentless, aggressive.” I’m dead sure of those 2 adjectives used by one of the sisters. So, he’s had it awhile now. I assume he reports to head of Investigations (unfilled) or Detectives (nowGossom), who is notfresh eyes but maybe sane eyes.
To my knowledge, at the time of the posting the comments were re Levi Yandell. I do not intend to sound disingenuous when I say that MCSO deputies to date (individually and collectively) do not have the training and experience (nor resources that go with same) to maintain Kyron’s cold case (as opposed to asking the FBI to take jurisdiction) when we can now review that certain training modules are utilized (and likely pay coded) to Kyron’s case. I applaud enhanced training and I further applaud what appears to be MCSO efforts to require updated agency manual best practice and its ensuing transparency. That said, as I am intimately aware of some of the other agencies utilized in this case and their abilities- there is nothing gained here unless something was withheld from them in the first place- which I do not believe it was (as far as using their technological resources). When a case of a missing child (from a school!) is about to enter its 8th year- it needs to be turned over to the FBI.
B
Sorry, left out that newly hired detective
from Eugene force that a sister
referred to was Yandell.
love the hat tip to “pay coded” to Kyron’s case. His cold case sure supports several functions in mcso: # of staff slot(s) in “investigations” deputies; training hours, & god knows what else. That is something a line level detective in say Medford would appreciate the need of. No way jose the mcso Chief Deputy in charge of Business will let this case go to his old agency. Alas, it seems Reese is running unopposed this May.
It still beguiles me how Rees intro of Bazilian included that ref to Kyron’s case. The only thing I can think of to use an old unsolved case of a still missing child as some sort of laudable reference is if one needs to explain or justify something that on the surface may not make sense. Nothing against Bazilian, he may be cracker jack and all that, but it doesn’t change the outcome so far and what has transpired at the agency since Kyron’s disappearance.
B
http://portlandtribune.com/bvt/15-news/383876-272664-police-man-in-van-attempted-to-pick-up-child-in-tigard
O/T
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/383935-270969-oft-jailed-special-ed-teacher-paid-by-pps-to-resign-from-job?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PortlandTribune+%28Portland+Tribune%29&utm_content=FeedBurner
Oft-jailed special-ed teacher paid by PPS to resign from job
Andrew Oshea also got paid during two years he didn’t work, and he was in jail for some of the time.
(snipped)
If this doesn’t royally pizzz-off the residents of Portlandia I don’t know what will. How can the citizens keep approving school bonds amidst this kind of uber-ridiculous handling of PPS $$? And why are these “teachers” (using the term loosely) getting special treatment, instead of the students? WTH?
A workman’s van makes a lot of sense.
Kyron couldn’t be seen. If there only briefly,
early, would likely blend and go unnoticed.
MCSO kept assuring the public they knew
every car on the lot. A van would be less
noticeable than a truck or suv and would
effectively conceal. parked in the right place
and nondescript. Investigatory
flaws go back to day of, at scene.
Fwiw, I have never seen MCSO assure the public they knew every car on the lot- how could they possibly when they had that honor system- “call in your license plate strategy.” They put out a flyer with Terri’s pic on it and a pic of Kaine’s truck which may as well have read on the bottom- “We are only interested in sightings of those depicted in this flyer, please keep any potentially exculpatory information, or any inculpatory sightings of any persons not pictured to yourself because it is a permission slip to YOUR suspect status (from potential witness).
Still the case, unfortunately. I am aware of LE agencies that actually use that entire debacle as a case study reference for what “agencies should never do” in an active investigation.
B
no one on the County Comm asked Reese why he hired a nondeputy who at that time did not qualify for LE Cert in Oregon in the job formerly always held by a Chief Deputy, and who had not been a business professional in his prior LE career, and why he was before the cameras in 2010 as a lead investigatory collaborator ploughing thru all that County Overtime and dough. Massive mgmt and accountability failure by Kafoury not to do so and by all Portland press not to care about how the new Sheriff was staffing up.
Nobody has asked the commission any thing, apparently, related to Kyron’s case.
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ot
shocking. not the negligent payments but the principal’s failure to call PPB at the time of the 10/29 incident and have him arrested for assault. The minor was in PPS’ care. https://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/383935-270969-oft-jailed-special-ed-teacher-paid-by-pps-to-resign-from-job
This SO just happened to be in Indiana in February 2017:
https://oregoncrimenews.com/lane-county-mugshots-feb-24-2017/
Maybe just me, but he looks a lot like the Delphi suspect to me:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/delphi-murders-indiana-sketch.html
https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/oregon-man-receives-24-month-federal-prison-sentence-failing-register-sex-offender
(Sorry about the subscribe thingy, but you can still read it if you scroll.):
http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/36221639-75/eugene-native-sent-to-federal-prison-for-failing-to-register-as-a-sex-offender.html.csp
“Authorities said Schmidt failed to complete a sex offender treatment program and fled Oregon while on post-prison supervision. He was arrested on a warrant in February as he exited a train that brought him back to Oregon from Indiana.”
https://crimeinformer.com/arrestArticle/Oregon/60048
I am not one to sound alarm bells at first glance, but I am going to send this on strictly as a precaution. Excellent “eyes” T.Ruth.
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O/T
Sorry, I forgot to put O/T on Schmidt,above:
http://www.themostwanted.net/images/counties/18/3/photos/834212-1.jpg
Thinking we noticed child abduction attempts in public spaces post Kyron, but if his abduction was a well-planned escalation, how about in the years before, leading up? Some OR site said no child abductions in OR in 2008-9, but how about attempts? Makes sense this was a local familiar with pps and with mcso/ppb jurisdictional divisions, but maybe like teachers he changed Stages in the year after K.
From memory only- following about 6 months from the date of Kyron’s disappearance, I recall a list of about 7 “attempts” that were unsolved. Fanno Creek in Aug comes to mind, but there were a few in Scappoose while school was still in session.
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States, that is
https://www.facebook.com/jvmtz33
Blink, have you talked with Terri? It looks like she is perhaps married again. I post the link above because I am wondering about the significance of the black ribbon that says in Spanish “You are in my heart.” Usually a black ribbon is in remembrance of someone deceased. I find it odd.
To my knowledge Terri is engaged. I have not asked her a single question about her fiancee nor do I intend to. As I am sure she would probably tell you herself if asked-, I am “all business” with her (to a fault) as it relates to Kyron’s disappearance.
That is not to say I do not care about her as a person, human being an child of God. I do. I just try to stay as focused as possible when it comes to the potential for answers here. Truth is the goal and the priority.
As you know, “T.Ruth” , lol.
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Balizan stars on mcso fb
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=518043005203717&id=309626772712009&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&_rdr
“if i had to use one word to describe public service, i’d use the word ‘excellence.’”
Personally I’d use the words “service to the public” characterized by apolitical and lower pay than private sector.
What he gets is a second full megapension.
He apparently was recruited from Hayward CA police patrol
by fbi bcz he spoke Spanish like a native, was dispatched
to train police in S America. Didn’t last long in Portland. Gone
to retirement 8 mos after abduction.
Anybody home? I hope you’re not suffering from the flu epidemic!
No ma’am, the rl too much work epidemic, lol, I am all caught up this morning though. Sorry about that.
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ot
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/384152-272725-violence-claims-didnt-cause-teacher-oshea-to-lose-license
Goodness knows what lurked in the past of Skyline staffers
or other pps employees who did business in the bldg.
Unreal.
B
@TRuth. I always figure flu or real
workload & probably the latter bcz
imo she’d crawl to the computer sick
she’s such a worker.
Yes ma’am.
B
Re the County Commission who dished all those OT $ w/o accountability. I
don’t recall the Chief Commissioner on 6/4/10, but the one Cogen not long after did illegal mj and coke per his supervisee mistress (& on the County travel dime) on the job. Gov Kitz was a prelegal user of mj too. No way any of these Execs were gonna call MCSO (with the power to arrest) to account on any wastefully expensive retirement-padding case.
TY TRuth for pic. He appears to me more attractive than husband
3 who imo put manufactured muscles (whether by steroids of yore or
boxing today) on an otherwise imo effete body frame.
@TRuth. Ribbon is on hus page, not hers? Wikipedia delineates the possibilities. Either he’s an anarchist, had melanoma, is displaying solidarity w/ say Barcelona or Las Vegas, or lost a loved one. I like this article; I forsee the black ribbon becoming popular amongst certain US political groupings. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/25083982.html
@T. Ruth says: January 17, 2018 at 1:54 pm
“I am wondering about the significance of the black ribbon that says in Spanish “You are in my heart.” Usually a black ribbon is in remembrance of someone deceased. I find it odd.”
T.Ruth, the comments indicate it’s in memory of his mother, who passed unexpectedly by the look of it.
Evie- I am told you are correct. The ribbon is reflective of the passing of the gentleman’s Mother.
B
@Rose says: January 16, 2018 at 12:42 pm
“Massive mgmt and accountability failure by Kafoury not to do so and by all Portland press not to care about how the new Sheriff was staffing up.
Nobody has asked the commission any thing, apparently, related to Kyron’s case.
B”
I looked back in my email to when I was calling and writing to the commissioners. From one message (me writing) ” I was reminded today by a staffer for Chair Cogen that the Sheriff is an elected official who does not answer to the Chair or the Board; I’m not asking that you tell the Sheriff what to do, but as you do partially hold the purse strings I hope you will not underestimate your influence. ”
Ii also found some reporter notes from Anita Kisee (KATU).. her FB page is no longer live but this is copied verbatim into an email. Most of it is detail already posted here, this is from 2/24/11 and the notes are on the county commissioner’s brief from Staon & Gates. (the numbers inline are timestamps for her video reports & mean nothing to this conversation). There is more but this seemed like the most interesting part.
Staton speaking:
PART-TIME SGT, TWO FULL TIME DETECTIVES, 1 PART TIME TECNICIAN, PART TIME SAR
OTHER –DEPART OF JUSTICE TECHNICIAN RESEARCH MATERIALS THROUGH SEARCH WARRANTS, 1 COMMUNICATION TECH EXPERT – CELL PHONES TOWERS, 1 BEHAVIOR PSYCHOLOGIST
433 The belief is that we are moving forward in this investigation and is continuing very strongly at this particular point in time. 39
WILL REASSESS IN JUNE – IF NO ARREST OR SUSPECT IDENTIFIED
Loretta Smith – Commissioner
THANKED
510 As a mother I can only imagine the horror the family is feeling at this point. But as a county commissioner I want to find out specifically, and this is directly to the DA, are we on the right track 25
Rod Underhill – Chief Deputy DA
528 The answer to the question commissioner, are we on the right track,
533 Short answer is yes, long answer is our obligation both as law enforcement investigators and district attorneys is to create a case that is provable in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. 49
REQUIRES TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND EVIDENCE
SOMEONE WILL BE THERE TO PICK EACH OF IT APART
ADVISING THEM AS THEY GO.
658 We will work and work and work until this matter is resolved03
711 Whether it’s Saturday at 10am, or Friday at 9pm, it’s not an eight to five. It is getting the job done. 22
FEEL DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO REACH CONCLUSION
825 Absolutely we’re on the right track, absolutely.
FBI INVOLVEMENT
GET THAT DON’T HAVE AT A LOCAL LEVEL
EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA
Sheriff
919 I’m very grateful they have offered this up to us and provided us with this opportunity. 26
Cpt. Jason Gates
BRIEFING – LET BOARD AND PEOPLE KNOW WHERE ARE IN INVESTIGATION
HOW FUNDS BEING SPENT
FBI PARTNER FROM DAY ONE
BEHAVIOR ANALYSIS, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, PROFILING SUSPECTS, WHENEVER NEEDED
420 DAYS OF TASK FORCE
NEW STRATEGIES FROM HERE ON OUT
1138 And… we need more people
1144 There are not many agencies that are able to provide six bodies by asking and the FBI is able to do that. 49
NATIONAL PROGRAMS THEY CAN USE, FORENSICS, EXPERTISE IN CHILD ABDUCTION
1226 That doesn’t hurt the already top notch investigators that we have involved in this investigation from several different agencies. 35
evie-
Thank you sincerely for your continued advocacy for Kyron. A bigger thank you for being a local inspired to action.
You better believe I take your point to heart- I am incorrect when I stated that “Nobody has asked the commission any thing, apparently, related to Kyron’s case.” You have.
If you don’t mind, I provided a link below for the Multnomah County Commission Site so anyone can review and/or download agendas or minutes – there are also videos of the meetings.
So.. click on this link:
http://multnomah.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=3
Scroll to the bottom and (if interested in the information evie was kind enough to excerpt)- click on year 2011, and then Feb 24, 2011 meeting. I recommend reviewing the agenda and the minutes prior to the video- and if you wish to ff the video portion, Sheriff Staton begins at 4:40. Interesting side note here, which is going to have me reviewing my doc file- Staton introduces Ned Walls as the lead investigator of Kyron’s investigation. By my math (LOL- you know you are) at the date of this presentation, that would have made him the “lead” for no more than three months.
You will note while viewing the req to appear docs are on your right. I have to say after watching it again, it continues to stupify me that at no time does anyone specifically acknowledge this child went missing from the school (although it def states that in the docs) or refers to the case as anything specific re the impetus to the investigation in the first place… ie: abduction, homicide, custodial interference, etc… How is it words like conclusion and resolution do not include words like recovery, reunite with family, or say, the fact that the first gj did not indict for anything? The commission was startled to learn the level of involvement the FBI was offering at no cost? How about the fact that Staton said openly that the FBI were the SME’s (subject matter experts) and possessed the correct resources that MCSO DID NOT HAVE? Yet, not one question- would it make sense then to turn the case over to the FBI?
B
The story in Rose’s link is wild. Here is a teacher who attacks a child in his care and investigation reveals that the teacher has several domestic assault events and they can’t or won’t remove him or charge for a crime nor will they cancel the teaching license. This teacher has put fear into the management of PPS.
This is a major problem across out nation’s schools. The only way out is to begin to limit new hires contracts to one school year for a period of years.
I am glad to know that Blink and family are ok. Not affected by the current flu season. This is a bad year and the flu shot turns out to be not effective. We received a call from Mrs. ATG’s health provider that they were not able to meet appointments on time because of the load of flu patients and the number of personnel that were off because they had it.