Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Terri Horman Leaves The House
Portland, OR– Late today, prior to a previously scheduled hearing at 3PM PST, an agreement was reached between the attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman.
KOIN reports:The dispute between Terri Horman and Kaine Horman has been settled and she will move out of the couple’s Northwest Sheltered Nook Road home Saturday by 3 p.m.
Also on Koin6, via email from Kaine Horman-
When asked via email by KOIN if he believes Terri had something to do with Kyron’s disappearance, he wrote: “I believe at some point she will be arrested.”
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I have been thinking about Kiara. I think she should be able to see her Mommy during supervised visits. Kiara did nothing wrong, yet she is getting the ultimate punishment, being taken from her Mom. This is an important time during her growth both developmental and emotional. Where are her rights in all of this? She is an innocent. She must be crying for her Mommy. That is so sad, it makes me sick.
I am only thinking of this precious little baby girl.
Kyron, we will not give up brave guy!
Just a thought, I’ve since figured out Kyron’s glasses weren’t actually mailed or sent home after Kyron disappeared,I’ve learned that speculation and deduction have quickly become “fact” to certain people, having said that, does anyone know for FACT that the science fair project wasn’t picked up?
The issue over why take the truck instead of the mustang for the project for me is simple, I have a mustang, I also have a grand daughter the same age as Kiara. There’s barely enough room for one more person in the back of my car with just the carseat in there. Add the baby and it seems even more crowded as she tends to wanna play with whomever is back there with her. We also have a truck, if I were transporting a baby with all her gear, a 7 yr old with a project and a back pack I’d take my truck simply because it has more leg room.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-relocates-Oregon-roseburg-kyron-horman-missing-portland-98764869.html
What does this mean, please?
Are they looking for Kyron in Roseburg? TIA.
Blink I don’t know if you believe in psychics, I was reading a forum with a psychic that is Jacqui O’Reilly and her visions where Kyron is and who is responsible. This is a link to the page where she names names. Also she has pin pointed an area where he will be found that is right off Hwy 30 at the end of Rocky Point Rd.
Here is that link. Do you know anything about this psychic?
If link is direct to page it is on page 346 in this blog/forum.
http://missingpersons.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=3450
Mystarz writes: “You comments only prove your ignorance regarding matters you obviously do not understand nor honestly know anything about. I found the amazon.com reader’s review in which you regurgitated someone else’s comments regarding the Matt Riley book as your own. Not hard to find – perhaps you should have changed more than just the word “purports”. However as I stated you are a commendable comedian. A fraud, but an amusing character non the less…”
Two things: 1. C’mon dude. I didn’t lift anything from Amazon. My complaint about MR is not at all uncommon. But I’m happy to know that an amazon reviewer has (according to you) the same assessment of MR as I (and others) do. If you wish to disagree with me, fine. But don’t make stuff up. *rolls eyes*
2. Blink, can I retract my apology to this shallowpate? I made a sincere effort to shake and make nice, but s/he spit once my hand once I extended it. I promise no more hitting, so long as this person doesn’t throw one across the plate.
In fairness I dont think Starz saw your polly before the lob back over the net-
Alright, both of you, no personal attacks and get back to focusing on Kyron please.
We all know the wit runs like gravy around here, but it does not serve to locate our little dude, K?
B
B writes: “Alright, both of you, no personal attacks and get back to focusing on Kyron please.”
Done. Deal. But can I please post pictures of the Andy Williams concert I attended in Branson, Missouri?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lSHZ1uVyHw&feature=related
lol.
B
Oh, MyStarz! Comedy relief welcome, snarkiness good when needed, picking fellow posters apart not so good. Let’s all be nice even when you don’t find their humor tastful or just don’t like what they have written. He and Blink make me so nostalgic sometime I have to laugh…when I am asked who is my fave movie character my answer is Long Duc Duong! People don’t laugh usually but I bet Blink can remember. Oh, such sweet innocent times!
Back to the topic…Cassie I too wonder about the sighting in a truck by a gentleman. Now that we are sure TH had the truck that morn and the poss sighting of her in diff areas in stores (unverified as most all things in this case) and could it be why they want any surveillance photo/video from passers by and stores on certain routes? So much is unknown in this case and it’s driving me crazy. Blink, care to share anything else with us? I’m saying pweeeeeze? If you can’t I understand why.
Sorry bout my comment above. I was posting and walked away for a few and then hit send without looking up. You were addressing same.
Did I get lost in the anti-Spam/new server thing, too? Haven’t been able to post since around that time?
meliiab,
“Dong, where is my automobile?”
“Oto-mo-biiiiiile???”
To Cathy Bickel, Glad to know those weren’t Kyron’s actual glasses mailed. Regarding picking up the project, I unfortunately can’t remember where I saw it but I absolutely DID see a photo of Kyron’s 3-sided poster on the floor of his classroom leaning against another child’s desk after all the other projects had been removed and after he had been reported missing so it would have been that evening or the next day or two after. There also is the simple fact that Terri and Kaine walked to the bus to pick him up after school that day rather than drive to school in the truck to pick up him and the project. This is primarily why Kaine’s statement of why they switched vehicles doesn’t make sense. Regarding the lack of space in a Mustang, what’s wrong with the trunk? Or leaning it up in the front seat? I had a grade school boy at the same time as a baby and took them both to school every day in a small car. Never had to change cars just for a poster and a shoe box.
Just a thought on the left behind backpack. IF I were family: intending to abduct a child/stepchild; to distance myself from suspicion; was well-known within the school; and knew firsthand the school had basically no security, a “School Abduction” would be the ticket. I would make sure at least one of the child’s possessions were left in his/her classroom to “prove” he/she was actually there. Just saying. IMO, it’s the Dr. appt that’s tripping Terri up. If she’s guilty, she or her cohort(s) would need to have time to get Kyron away before he was missed and a search launched. Judging the tight time frame schools run on and the distance from the school to Sauvie Island, someone needed to buy time before Kyron’s absence was noticed. IMO, that’s where Terri and the Dr. appt that Kaine (an otherwise pretty hands-on dad)knew nothing about, come in. Therein lies the rub. In order to make the “school abduction” work suspicion-wise, Kyron had to disappear from school. Also, the school may have had to be the location to accommodate the landscaper(s), so as not to arouse suspicion. In order to make the time frame work though, some excuse had to be given to the teacher who would have reported Kyron’s disappearance. All MOO
To Futureman @ July 19, 2010 at 10:57 pm: “I’m a suet processing specialist. After all, it’s not just for breakfast anymore.” I’m with the crowd that thinks you are hilarious. We need some comic relief when dealing with such a grim subject. And I did know that suet was an actual word, so, not sure what that says about my level of “redneck-ness”
To Monkeybunny @ July 19, 2010 at 10:57 pm: Please let me know once you start that 12-step group, I need to join as well.
I am also waiting for new info on the Haleigh case, I can’t believe that it has gone on for so long with no resolution and Haleigh not found. It makes me worry so much more about Kyron not being found.
How is it that children can just disappear and then there is nothing else, they are just gone? It is unspeakable. They are just children, sweet and innocent little babies. I will never understand it. For me, the sun rises and sets on my children, how is it that other people do not value them and see them as disposable? Why is it that children do not seem to have rights? They are people with lives, hopes, dreams and futures ahead of them. How dare someone take that from them. I don’t know why there is not a higher priority in our nation over missing children, because to me it is the worst thing that happens. I live in one of the areas that is directly affected by the oil leak in the Gulf. And I believe that missing and murdered children should take precedence at all times over that as a news item and as a matter before Government. But the oil leak will always get more mainstream news time and more attention from lawmakers. And I don’t buy that the oil leak affects more people. Just one missing or murdered child should affect everyone to an outrage that stops it in its tracks. So why doesn’t it happen? (sorry, feeling a bit angry)
Cathy Bickel says:
July 20, 2010 at 6:30 am
Just a thought, I’ve since figured out Kyron’s glasses weren’t actually mailed or sent home after Kyron disappeared,I’ve learned that speculation and deduction have quickly become “fact” to certain people
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Cathy Bickel: You do not know for fact that the glasses are not Kyron’s, unless you are working with LE/FBI on this case–only they know for sure. If you are working with them, then at least this bit about the glasses has been resolved for us. Otherwise, you do not know for fact that the glasses are not Kyron’s. It could go either way.
I think that I made my point badly before when answering your question, so let me try again: *IF* these are Kyron’s glasses, and there is reason to believe that they might be (not just rumor, not just speculation, but other reasons), then this is an important bit of evidence. I do not consider it to be “fact” that they are Kyron’s glasses, but I think it is a possibility that should be considered, and there is good reason to believe that they might be Kyron’s. If I could find the exchange with Blink, I would post it here, but I do not know which post it was in. Blink, can you help?
My sources tell me those glasses are Kyron’s.
B
OMG, Futureman! You knowing that is like handing me flowers! Stay with us I really do enjoy your humor and insight. Okay back to reality…Superhero cape on, check, Batmobile gassed up, check yep off to work I go. Ya’ll please have some encouraging news about Ky when I get back. You know after seeing thos pics of him with the box and then the Easter basket truck on his head I know he must’ve been one of the funniest little boys around. Bet he has one hell of a sense of humor! Humor far beyond that of another 7 year old. Maybe he’s in a beautiful forest discovering a new breed of tree frogs! Who knows? It’s possible! I hope where he is they are letting him be him.
Lazydog1
Maybe TH had a sexual fling with AV. AV is young……..maybe he impulsively took Kyron to get back a TH for breaking off their affair? There was a white truck with a woman in it spotted near AV’s home……..maybe TH was hoping to get Kyron back before Kaine came home?
At first I found the website interesting but this whole bit with the adulation of Futureman and then the war with Futureman and Mystarz is getting pretty sickening. WAY OFF TOPIC.
And you Blink, you answer those two every time, so no matter what you say you’re encouraging them, while you ignore the rest of us and our legitimate questions about Kyron and the whole crime. IMO this takes away from your credibility. I have read countless comments where the readers ask you questions, and you don’t answer, claiming you’re swamped or whatever. Yet you have time for these two people listed above with their humor and philosophizing that contributes NOTHING to helping find this little boy.
Geez. Go ahead. Put me in my place for commenting.
I shall.
I do not and cannot answer every poster or question. The biggest reason is, that if I have answered it already, it is incumbant upon the poster to research the answer rather than repeat myself.
The second reason I may not, is because for reasons that should be obvious, I cannot.
If you spent your day analyzing morbid details of murders, missing people, and the shady ass backgrounds of a bunch of folks surrounding them, just so that it can progress a case, you would take the opportunity to have a necessary moment of levity too.
What I have designed here, is a community where many times posters will answer or address things I may not have time to, and I count on that. And yes, even bitch and moan on occasion.
The goal is to constructively progress dialog; it has been very effective in a variety of cases.
Also, that is an excellent suggestion, I wish I had thought of that, thanks for the tip.
B
@Jackie. Your statement is true, especially about the possibility those glasses MAY be Kyron’s but for us, the general public, we do NOT know this as fact and that was all I was trying to find out. Maybe I didn’t state my post correctly, what I meant to say is that while LE may and should know more about those glasses than we do, that just because there is a possibility they are Kyron’s doesn’t mean someone has said they absolutely are.
My original question was just that, was there knowledge or a link stating that they were his.
@Blink, thanks for inserting your comment under Jackies
@Dee for clearing up the project question for me, I appreciate it.
Regarding Anselmo Sanchez…
http://a056-crimestoppers.nyc.gov/crimestoppers/public/publicmwViewfelon.cfm?mwID=474
Blink:
“My sources tell me those glasses are Kyron’s. B” – This is big, esp if they came from anywhere outside the home or the backpack, yes? If your sources can back that, too?
Baby Sweet, you’re brave to bring the subject of the photos up again and risk ridicule. Some of those photos, including the logo as AG’s Mom pointed out, whether completely innocent or contrived, are compelling to some of us. Fascinating, not in the sense of grasping at straws in a case with no publicly known evidence, but in the sense of simply observing, in what is actually there, oddities that either add up to mere coincidence or something relevant. It is feasible that the internet (school website) could be used as a means of communicating a message of control. I think maybe words like “spooky” and “creepy” evoked some ridicule, but I don’t believe anyone using them was suggesting demonic messages. Those loosely-used adjectives easily describe anyone who would harm a child or an adult, in my book. I would think anything some people find odd would be worth looking into before being ruled out. That’s the time to laugh. No one is omniscient.
I also find the observation of the poster (sorry, I don’t remember her name) who pointed out the resemblance of the photo of Terri looking up at Desiree to the painting of Judas. Fascinating resemblance. Pointing it out does not mean the poster would build a case on it. Not one of us knows whether Terri’s classic body language is a relevant piece of the puzzle or not. Isn’t it better to express an observation that no one else might have picked up on just in case? No one knows with certainty what is and what is not relevant and so I would think the more observations shared, the better – if only to eliminate possibilities to hone in on Kyron. If there was a molehill of evidence, we would have something by which to gauge our own observations, instincts, intuitions, logical analysis. Maybe evidence exists privately, maybe some of you are privy to it, and so are legitimate judges of what is and is not a piece of this puzzle. If that is the case, transparency would let the rest of us in, and spare us the embarrassment of sharing irrelevant observations.
I also find AG’s Mom’s observations about the culture that surrounds the area interesting, knowing nothing about it myself. What is the atmosphere, what are the underlying pressures, what is the attitude, who is beholden to whom, who has the power – I would think important factors to take into consideration around any crime and investigation, no? Anyone who has worked with domestic violence or child abuse and neglect victims knows that surrounding factors have a direct effect on how cases are handled and outcome. It is not a disparagement, I hold people in authority in high esteem unless they prove otherwise. It’s just reality that facts can walk up and bite an investigator or judge or guardian ad litem on the nose, but whether he or she acknowledges or dismisses them depends on lots of things. The cultural atmosphere affects perception of evidence.
I would hope that our shared desire to come together around this darling missing child, who disappeared in a world I hate to think exists, of no empathy, compassion, self-control, concern for the law, would heighten our awareness of the need to be compassionate toward each other. I have never followed the world of crime before. I’m brand new. From where I sit, I don’t believe logic could have anything to do with harming a child, and so I see more possibilities in trying to put logic aside, and trying to use my imagination in order to enter the illogical thought patterns behind such a crime. That’s why out-of-the-box observations catch my eye. Maybe Blink will say, “thank God she’s not an investigator!” and rightfully so. All I do know is that when I think about what Kyron faced or is facing, it makes me want to tiptoe, to whisper, to try and emanate gentleness, blatantly, stupidly hoping that it will reach him.
It’s possible I just don’t understand blog culture. You who have been doing this for a while may have developed a tougher skin out of necessity. I respect that. I enjoy banter and understand the necessity of even gallows humor just to lighten up once in a while because none of us can live in tragedy. Kyron caught my heart and I felt compelled to join in but am finding it difficult only because of my thin skin around this subject. I’ll keep reading and learning.
@kim, Lazydog1
Who is AV?
For some Kyron Horman is merely an intriguing disappearance case. Online community sites such as these, provide many a vessel for their curiosity and personal entertainment. For some Kyron Horman is our everyday waking reality and is not a comical matter on any level.
I came to this site to continue the search for Kyron and yes I do have vested emotions. Kyron is a child of our community, that we have spent hours, upon days, upon weeks trying to find with tears streaming down our faces. My heart feels as if it literally is stuck in my throat every time I walk along the river hoping to find/or not find something, anything that is Kyron. Many of the flyers that we hung over a month ago are now faded and worn. So today the children and I will stop by Kinkos to retrieve more and alas =( start replacing the old ones with new.
Harry Oakes has been asking for search volunteers if anyone is interested.
Thank goodness for sites such as Blink for providing an extension of the actual search for Kyron Horman.
Blink says, “My sources tell me those glasses are Kyron’s.”
SAD. Can you reveal where they were found? I am so sad.
OMG Blink, if those glasses are Kyron’s then why does LE think that he is still alive? Is he stumbling around somewhere blind? Is he in a closet? This must then be connected to some kind of ransom scheme.
It has been mentioned on this forum a good while back that if a body is buried deeply enough dogs will not be able to detect the scent. Someone also suggested that if Terri Horman had planned this crime in advance she might have had a prepared grave waiting somewhere not too far from the school, like on Sauvie Island where the search is ongoing. Maybe she had been working on this for a long time, digging a little deeper each time she visited the site. Some on this forum have confirmed that there are very remote sections of the island where no one would detect this activity. But with the newer information about a landscape lover being somehow linked to Terri, isn’t it possible that such a grave could be very efficiently and easily created by a person with the appropriate heavy equipment? Consider that this someone might be the owner/operator of a landscaping concern who would have no trouble “fudging” accounts of where equipment had been and how it had been used. Consider also that a good landscaper knows how to leave an area looking perfectly undisturbed and natural to the surrounding environment, as though nothing had ever happened there.
Cathy Bickel: Here’s some of Blink’s earlier comments about Kyron’s glasses being his:
3. melissab says:
June 17, 2010 at 9:07 am
Okay, dummy me googled the glasses but all I can find are articles and pics of what they say are replicas of the glasses. B, you think these are actually Kyron’s? Do you have an idea of where they were found? Maybe the Sauvie Island area? Poor little baby, if these are his now I have several scenarios running through my head of how they were dropped/left and I didn’t want to see all that yet.
I believe they are Kyron’s and I have no info on where they may have been found.
B
Here’s the link:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/15/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-john-walsh-on-today-show-media-will-solve-this-case/comment-page-4/#comments
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What does that tell us? Without knowing when/where they were found, we’re still in the dark. Hopefully LE is not.
Although it’s late in terms of human scents, I do wish Harry Oakes would be allowed into the school with his dogs. That IS the last place Kyron was known (by us) to be. Follow the scent. As Mr. Oakes says, humans release diff. scents when under attack.
Well, I wasted 15 minutes tracking down the discussion below since Blink & Cathy B commented after. But I’ll go ahead and post the comments here for glasses comments/questions that may follow:
(the following is from the Fact or Fiction post)
Melissa says:
June 26, 2010 at 1:21 am
I’m sorry if this was explained somewhere in here and I missed it…I tried to find the answer but didn’t have any luck. That said…
I get your theory of the glasses. They do look worn. LE putting out a photo of Kyron without glasses. Desiree mentioning how much he needs his glasses. But what I can’t understand is why the police would go to the point of hiding the fact that they are really Kyron’s glasses.
Even if someone gave the family the glasses as proof of having Kyron, LE wouldn’t have to lie about the fact that they found the glasses, right? They could say they found them but couldn’t say where. In fact, it seems to me that it would be more beneficial for the public to KNOW that Kyron doesn’t have his glasses.
I just don’t understand why LE would go to the point of releasing a picture of a “replica” of Kyron’s glasses…what exactly would that do? I’m sure I’m not getting something…would you mind explaining? Thanks!
Blink replied: Because that would be info only the perp would know.
Because the perception would be that Kyron may be deceased and possibly escalate a bad situation, or make someone panic, putting themselves or others at risk.
B
TR says:
June 25, 2010 at 1:56 pm
… Listening to his mother talk about his fear of losing his glasses brought tears to my eyes. I share that fear and it’s very real, but I’m a big girl.
I REALLY feel for Desiree and hope she makes it through this in one piece. It sounds like she has already had her share of troubles.
Blink replied: You heard me say the day the pic of the glasses came out- I believed they were Kyron’s.
I said it again, when they showed him without the glasses.
It is my belief the glasses were received by someone in this family from whoever is responsible for what happened to him, and the entire questionaire is designed to produce exemplars to match a writing sample, as contained in my notes in the piece. This action, by someone thinking they are smarter than LE is what will ultimately catch them.
B
Jackie Bauer
says:
June 25, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Blink, you said: “You heard me say the day the pic of the glasses came out- I believed they were Kyron’s….” I replied: At that time I took the glasses and blew them up on my mac. The white wording was all rubbed off on the stem, just the way mine are from wear and tear. I knew then that you were right and these were his, but was hoping against hope…
Blink said: Of everything that I have seen to date in this case that has turned my blood cold. It was his little glasses sitting there. To me, which was confirmed today by his Mother, they were his lifeline.
I will never understand the evil that can befall a human being to harm a child. Never.
B
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@Cathy Bickel: glad we were both on the same page. I think that it is important to differentiate between fact (for example: Kyron was at school the morning of 6/4), rumor (Kaine is a cross-dressing gay man who had an affair with a pregnant man named Phyllis… that’s actually a mish-mash of rumors I’ve read) and the ambiguous areas up for rumination/discussion/theory within the realm of possibility (the glasses, the doctor’s appt, etc.) and that’s why I wanted to clarify your statement because I saw that right after your comment, I saw that Dee says:
July 20, 2010 at 11:22 am
To Cathy Bickel, Glad to know those weren’t Kyron’s actual glasses mailed.”
So, whew, that’s over
Blink, as I was searching for the glasses discussion, I found two comments you made. One was to me, and I’d never seen it, so I’ll reply now: Thank you, nice words coming from you, since I think you do a superlative job of expressing yourself. The other was that you and ScaredMonkeys are related by a mother. If that’s true, does this mean you have Canada connections? If so, I want to share something with you.
Question…If the glasses were Kyron’s were they mailed to the parents or LE? How long ago did they receive them and was there a note with them??????????
RE KYRON’S Found eye glasses: Blink posted earlier on in the investigation that they were put in the Horman’s mail box and I think she mentioned a note with it.
Full discloser: Novice and I used to date. It didn’t end well.
@Teri –
Sadly, I have envisioned a very similar scenario to what you describe. I’m not a big believer in psychic “premonitions” or vision, but I do have a sense that TH & any accomplices has taken a leaf from the book “The Lovely Bones” where a body was disposed of in such a final irretrievable manner that it simply could not be found through any normal means.
Like you, Blink — I feel tremendously protective toward this and any innocent child. Every child should have parents who place their well-being above all else; who feel loved and cherished beyond all measure. But I have a terrible sense of foreboding that this case won’t be solved. I fervently hope I am wrong.
@beejay, thank you for giving me that link. I have worn glasses since I was 2 years old, so for me it means that if they were found on the ground Kyron is probably no longer with us, if they were mailed then there’s at least an element of hope.
Prayers and thoughts are with Kyron, his brothers and sister.
@Teri: re the dogs and scent: a great SAR dog can detect scent under feet of concrete. I looked it up when I found out what “hardscaper” is and wanted to know the grim answer. If you’re up for it, here’s some info on just how far:
http://www.searchdogs.org/articles/Decomp%20Odor%20Analysis%20Database.pdf
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-csi-death-dogs-sniffing-out-the-truth-behind-the-crimescene-canines-835047.html
Dogs can follow old scent, it’s just not as easy or efficient. But some of them are amazing with the schnozz. I live with a dog who has the ability to dig up old dog treats buried in much and mud, dissolved into relative nothingness. It’s gross, but amazing. He’s a real hit at the dog park. He also has an eery sense of direction and memory. Not all dogs are like that, though. I live with an example of that kind, too
@LPB: AV= Avery Villareal. He is the older brother of Kyron’s friend, Curtis (who also had a Red Eyed Tree Frog display at the SF.
@Teri: AV’s occupation is listed as contruction. He may also have had access to heavy equipment.
Doesn’t it make sense (if the glasses actually are Kyron’s) that wherever they were found is an area that’s been searched. That would explain the radius of search either around the school or on SI? Meaning that if they are his, they were found near the school or on SI? And that if they’d been found on TH’s kitchen table they’d have been searching around their property instead?
That also leaves open the possibility the glasses were planted in order to throw the search area off.
It would be helpful to know if Kyron had a backup pair of glasses. I’ve never worn glasses, by my cousin did, and I remember she always had a beat-up taped together old pair to use when she misplaced her new ones. It’s hard to believe someone has been ‘holding’ a child for this long that supposedly can’t see-
Thank you all for bringing me up to speed on the glasses. Sad. “…received by someone in his family…”
Do we know whether or not LE has received all of the questionnaires from Skyline parents/staff/etc by this point?
Have not
B
lyla says:
July 20, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Regarding Anselmo Sanchez…
http://a056-crimestoppers.nyc.gov/crimestoppers/public/publicmwViewfelon.cfm?mwID=474
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The man in the post above is 5 ft. 10 in. tall. The Anselmo Sanchez being held in Portland is 5 ft. 4 in and doesn’t appear to have the same facial scars. People don’t generally shrink that much over time so not the same guy.
Sometimes it seems to me that if LE would let go of a little more information, we bloggers and/or the media might be able to help solve this. But I realize they have their reasons. I mean, it would be interesting to know if there was any unidentified DNA found on the glasses. And it would be CRUCIAL to know when they were placed in the mailbox, if in fact that’s what happened (DNA on the mailbox handle also?). If they were placed there the same day, TH herself would have been able to do that before the whole deed was discovered. If they were placed there later, wow someone was really taking a chance at being spotted, even at night, even in a remote area, given all the LE and media that were driving around. If there was no DNA other than, say, Kyron’s and Teri’s, that would tell one something also. And IF there was a note with the glasses, well that’s a possible goldmine of info too – possible DNA, handwriting analysis for spelling, content and letter style (unless typed), and paper source. Makes one wonder yet again about the true purpose of the questionnaire. The whole thing about the glasses just makes you wonder – why would someone do that? No ransom has been demanded as far as we know (but who knows?) So what other reason could there be for doing this, other than just plain taunting? Would someone really take the chance of placing the glasses there JUST to taunt? Or is absolutely everything done just to throw LE off? (the glasses, the cell phone pings, not to mention everything carefully orchestrated at the school that day (photo, bookbag, dr. excuse, etc.) I just wish we knew more on these tidbits as we are all anxious to solve this.
1. I hate to read that the photos are, in fact, of Kyron’s actual glasses. I’ve always thought the “replica” pants look dirty and warn, also–especially compared to the obviously crisp newness of the CSI shirt, socks, and the sneakers displayed–and wondered if these pants were found during the search for the poor little guy.
http://www.katu.com/news/photos/96353964.html
2. MyStarz July 20, 2010 at 12:52 p.m.
Struck a chord. Thanks for posting.
30.snapoutofit says:
July 20, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RE KYRON’S Found eye glasses: Blink posted earlier on in the investigation that they were put in the Horman’s mail box and I think she mentioned a note with it.
I believe the comment above you refer to was posted by someone other than “blink”.
I have always thought that the glasses were at least one key as to why this case was handled from the start as more of an abduction for ransom scenario than a typical missing child situation, i.e., no Amber Alert, no early media blitz, delayed public appearance of the parents, and LE’s proviso that Kyron’s disappearance was an isolated incident that should not arouse the concern of Skyline School parents for the safety of their children. Surely LE have known from the beginning that this was the work of an insider w/accomplices. And surely, sooner or later, they will assemble the evidence needed to mete out justice. Just my thoughts…
Another thought just popped into my head from nowhere. Not a good one. I was thinking of where LS could stash Kyron if LS is the perp and of course I thought of dirt. I know LS is being looked at for jobs he may have been involved with in that June 4th time frame when he could have buried something. But what if it’s just a random burial site he could have had access to or knowledge of? Like, let’s say, the site of someone’s funeral not too far away who was being buried June 5th? It would be easy to put something into an already-dug hole and just cover it up somewhat, then the service happens the next day, casket is lowered in and buried….dogs would never be able to accurately “hit” on a site like that because everything in the area would be a hit. Terrible thought I know but we can leave no stone unturned. I wonder if LS’s exact movements can be accounted for on that day or that night?
Thank you very much snapoutofit for the info. I missed reading that part somehow. Sure is a difficult case and a very sad one. I pray for the little one every night.
@Kim:
Thanks, I figured it out. How are AV and BPumala linked? I can’t keep all of these relationships linked. TIA!
Lots of places here sell 2 pair of glasses
for the price of one
I have 4 pair myself
If I had a child ,for sure I would have more
than one pair
nothing is as awful as tearing the house
apart looking for your glasses
this case is slowing down
I wish I could see the FB page by Terri supporters
with out signing up
just see what they are saying
I understand they helped her hire Houze
So, the questionnaires were meant to produce writing samples to match with the note put in the Horman’s mailbox along with the eyeglasses. (And to elicit other info, too, maybe.) I remember LE giving the instructions that questionnaires could be emailed back–no writing samples?? A lot were emailed back to MCSO:
http://www.examiner.com/x-52289-Portland-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m6d20-BREAKING-NEWS-Kyron-Horman-investigation-receives-questionnaires-for-possible-new-leads
QUESTION: Did the questionnaires go out to school staff as well as parents? I can’t find the answer. To Landscapers?? Janitors??
And who is the school staffer rumored to be missing since 6/4?
Coleen and justanothermom discussed that missing staffer and I found no answer here to that either.
Coleen says:
July 18, 2010 at 2:07 am
#6. justanothermom:
nervous to offer this, b/c I don’t know how true this is, but I was told by a teacher in the portland public school district the same piece of info you ask about. This was within the first week after Kyron’s disappearance & I’ve heard nothing since.
5. Justanothermom says:
July 18, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Interesting that it is a real possibility that a staff or faculty member from Skyline has been MIA since 6/4 – anyone hear a rumor as to who it could be? I remember LE saying they had accounted for 98% of the people at the science fair.
I think its still possible that Terri acted alone. Which is why she’s not talking. She could have mailed the glasses herself so it looked like a kidnapping. Maybe bought the envelope or envelopes at the store that morning. It seems when perps act alone they tend to not talk. We all know of a few examples of that don’t we? I think she planned it all out ahead of time. Unlike casey anthony. But I feel she did it alone. JMO
Coleen: If you’re here/when you’re here, what did you mean when you said parents had been pulling their kids out of Kyron’s school district all spring? Before 6/4?? If so, why? (I quoted your post in part below)
15. Coleen says:
July 16, 2010 at 9:52 pm
…LE does not allow Portlanders to help at all, they do not communicate with their community, emotions are brittle here, parents removed their kids from school throughout the district this spring….