Ending The Nittany Nightmare: Penn State Pre-Game Plea, An Open Letter To President Rodney Erickson
An Open Letter to Penn State University President Rodney Erickson
With much respect -Do what I say, and do it today.
Hire the best Public Relations firm in the country for PSU’s needs. I am redacting that recommendation for the publication of this open letter, but it is included in my email to you. Don’t spend the time or manpower to run through the approved vendor lists and bid it out- not that kind of gig. The Board of Trustees can WebEx if necessary and this is the kind of emergency proxy was invented for.
Once retained, have the agency facilitate meetings through their agents with Bill Parcells and Bill Cowher immediately. Specify no leaks to the press until after they occur and by mutual agreement. Cowher may be the low hanging fruit on this one, he is returning to CBS next year.
If neither is interested in a head coach commitment of an 8-1 Big Ten team, follow their recommendations about who to contact next and ask them; beg if necessary, if they would be willing to consider a consulting gig for the recruitment process. Urban Myer is a fine coach and leader, but regardless of who PSU ultimately chooses, efforts to rebuild the PSU brand must start with a nationally recognizable face of a trusted and respected winner, like yesterday.
Champions attract champions and without that, it is like asking collegiate coaching candidates to walk into the lion’s den (pun intended) wearing a raw steak necklace. You will not even get one to tour Lasche, trust me on this.
This strategy would likely also include a public facing spokesperson effort, and worth every penny if that is all you can get a commitment for from either coach.
Pay them to sit in the lobby. Pay them to ride the elevator a few times, but get them on grounds. Pay them to have a motivational meeting with the team.
If you have some strong players they could attach to quickly and produce an “I remember when I was a young fig on the tree” memory synapses, it couldn’t hurt.
Instruct all team members never to roll the eyes should the phrase “When I was your age we played ball with pads made of glass and never wore cleats in the snow”; if they told me that I would believe it.
This is the kind of benchmarking that will revitalize wilting spirits of a young athlete, and the parents with the trembling hand over the eject button.
Half the free world is digging old milk cartons out of the recyclables to see if they recognize any kids they may have seen with Sandusky or on the sidelines of a game- they need a new visual association.
As you already know, if you are lucky enough to get this far, they will advise you to release every staffer from the interim athletic director to the water boys that were ever part of Paterno’s camp or rolled up his pants before the game. Do it.
This might be a good time to allow a try before they buy scenario if either are willing, as “guest coaches” to finish the season.
While I am at it, I might suggest a reality miniseries of the process- I know some folks from HBO familiar with the Hard Knocks of football, I would be glad to make a connection.
Donate those proceeds to Coach Parcells or Coach Cowher’s disadvantaged children’s charity of choice which is vetted in advance by a specially appointed member chosen by the new Ethics officer.
Point is, you need immediate public support and that will require immediate damage control or your Titanic does not even have the measly lifeboat option.
The public perception is that there is more to this horror movie after the commercial, and the commercials are disappearing as well.
Your job is to employ the resources that can change the channel when the public is not looking, and forget what they were watching in favor of the new programming, which includes sponsors aligned with that audience.
It is about as transparent of a plan as I can offer- with hope and promise to the innocent victims of this tragedy.
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http://www.freehsporkinsullivan.com/leaders?leader=10#leader
stanley sporkin imo was the most aggressive & ethical Dir of Enforcement the SEC’s ever had. Top judge.
Note on website (left side blurb) of Freeh site his working relationship with Tom Ridge.
Whatever he does, I feel it should take back seat to criminal case.
You read Omar mcneill’s CV?
http://www.freehsporkinsullivan.com/leaders?leader=11#leader
I have only found these three issues of Milestones. Fall ’08 has some pictures of events that might prove useful. Wonder where the other issues are?
http://www.thesecondmile.org/pdf/MilestonesFall05.pdf
http://www.thesecondmile.org/pdf/MilestonesFall08.pdf
http://www.thesecondmile.org/pdf/MilestonesSummer08.pdf
Brilliant timeline at this link:
http://standardspeaker.com/news/ex-coach-led-two-lives-that-often-intersected-1.1234946#axzz1eOp5FFn4
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Spanier also made time to perform magic tricks for students and run around sporting events in the Nittany Lions mascot uniform.
“Graham, I mean President Spanier, likes to be really active with students,” said Kyle Harris, 21, a senior public relations major who is a percussionist in the Blue Band. “He was always coming and playing with us.”
Schultz was called out of retirement this summer, when his successor left for a job elsewhere. In September, he and his wife attended the opening of the Gary Schultz Child Care Center, an environmentally friendly building. This week, the letters spelling out the name of the child care center had been removed.
In June, the National Football Foundation named Curley the country’s top athletic director. At the time, the foundation’s president said, “Tim Curley is a great leader with unparalleled vision.” That honor was rescinded last week.
Curley is also charged with perjury and failure to report child abuse to authorities. Curley’s attorney, Caroline Roberto of Pittsburgh, told a group of reporters that he is innocent, and the charges are the equivalent of getting a traffic ticket. She declined to comment to the Post. Curley was put on leave from the university.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/campus-overload/post/penn-states-lesser-known-fallen-icons-spanier-curley-and-schultz/2011/11/21/gIQA6ZhniN_blog.html
This looks like 1 degree of separation. Penn State has replaced people “in house” and Second Mile hasn’t done any better. To put Freeh in charge of an internal investigation, however highly credentialed he might be, makes no sense when the trust of the BOT is under question with it’s ties to Second Mile. This makes no sense. This does not seem like a “let the chips fall where they may” decision IMO.
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Freeh served as general counsel of the former MBNA credit card company in Wilmington along with top bank executive Ric Struthers. A Penn State graduate and major contributor still affiliated with the university, Struthers is on the board of directors of The Second Mile charity.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20111122/NEWS01/111220338/Penn-State-investigator-has-ties-Second-Mile-charity-s-board?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CHome
I agree, however, I do wish to add that it is my understanding that every single committee member polled, and no I am not naming which, was asked to provide input. 100 % of THAT input received, and apparently not taken seriously enough, was that the investigation should be ENTIRELY free of any involvement of ANYONE not absolutely independent of PSU, period.
I wonder if this leads to a faculty mutiny- there are some of the best educators in the country on staff at PSU.
B
I am so angry right now, words escape me!!! Victim #1 has withdrawn from school (senior year of HS) because he is being bullied. As if he hasn’t been through enough!!! Despicable, to say the least!!!
http://www.wnep.com/wnep-alleged-sandusky-victim-bullied-leaves-school-20111121,0,4362200.story
It is times like this that I really wonder if we are all truly of the same species.
@erose, just change the dates in your pdf links to bring up other issues. I only tried a few such as Fall06 and Fall07 and Spring07, but it worked.
Never hurts to try that!
This is the other side of sexual abuse that enrages me to the core. The victim is harrassing, bullied and even blamed for what happened (and the perp is usually someone popular within the community, then some).
I pray these young men and boys keep the faith!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=ju_c2#/video/bestoftv/2011/11/21/erin-ganim-sandusky-student-bullied.cnn
I’ve just been looking at names in everything I read. Names, names. Who will eventually tie together?
Anyone who wants the other 2 men that McLaughlin sued in civil court can find them at the link below. (be sure to read page 2 there to see exactly what an alledged victim of abuse can expect to face when he finally gains the courage to name his abusers)
http://www.morrisdailyherald.com/2011/11/18/man-says-he-tried-to-report-sex-abuse-by-penn-state-professor/a631lu5/
@erode
That lawyer would be promptly fired. Clearly in need of a mitigation strategist. Wow.
Traffic ticket?
i knew i’d find a connection to anti era,i didnt know it would be so easy ,first search,havent even begun to dig deeper, http://open.salon.com/blog/laura_wilkerson/2011/11/21/eagle_forum_advocates_child_rape http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/eagle-forum-derides-penn-state-witch-hunt (family has banking connections also)
Moving from the other thread w/updates, since it’s stuck in moderation there since yesterday, lol:
@ATG,
No,the Faculty Senate are not responsible for the hire of Freeh (at least not even close to directly). The Faculty Senate has no hiring authority whatsoever. Here’s the resolution passed by the Faculty Senate on Friday:
http://www.senate.psu.edu/senate-resolution_11-18-11.pdf
Note what the Faculty Senate recommended for the special committee composition. Also, note the final phrase of the last sentence does not mention Erickson by name, which was a deliberate omission.
Call me crazy, but how can anyone hired by the university and/or it’s trustees be deemed as “independent” in the investigation of itself? Am I missing something? Shouldn’t the FBI be doing their own investigation of what’s going on in that university? I would say the AG, but in this case, I guess that’s not independent either. Maybe I just don’t know how things *work* anymore.
T Ruth, you don’t know how things work just like the majority of us because we’re not criminals and we’re not child molesters. If this thing is as deep and widespread as my suspicions are telling me, there should and could be BIG heads rolling. I suppose that all depends on how well Sandusky has covered his ass. I wouldn’t doubt he has a closet full of evidence against his co-conspirators/molesters just so he won’t get his ass killed. It would have happend by now if he didn’t. Don’t you think?
I think I have serious concerns that he and Amendola are not appropriately nervous enough for my taste.
I saw Curley or Schultz’s lawyer compare their charges to a parking ticket yesterday.
For this to stay relevant and provide the distillations necessary to understand the “size and scope” true investigative work must be done. I am proud to see a bunch of that is going on here- beejay, erose, lizzy, and several behind the scenes on my team.
Sadly, this has not even broken the surface yet, and there are many that are hoping it never does.
B
Thanks for the link Lizzy. The last part of the resolution is a co-operation agreement with the presidents five part plan. I suppose that is in the resolution to sooth some feathers.
So who did hire Freeh?
And for those who may not be in the know, Freeh was the head of the FBI under the Clinton administration and was in office during the Waco fiasco. I personally would not trust this guy as far as I could throw my house. He is a Clinton crook IMO and will do nothing but eat up time and money and the product he produces will be worthless.
The Governor of the state should find an out-of-state special prosecutor to put together a team for an independent investigation of this whole affair. The “fox guarding the henhouse” approach will not get it done.
This story might fly if it weren’t for the fact that the guy assaulted in quasi public showers. He is bold, and has proved as much since his arrest.
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“Jerry tells me his house was like a hotel, particularly on football weekends, which is when this young guy… says that he was at Jerry’s house,” Amendola said. “The house was filled with people. At any given time, probably when this activity was allegedly going on, there might have been 25 to 50 people at Jerry’s house.”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-suspects-lawyer-victim-lied-felt-important/story?id=15007125
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Thanks, I should have tried that.
lizzy says:
November 22, 2011 at 8:34 am
I doubt his shower is that large- what an assanine thing to say.
B
Freeh has no subpoena power. He will have access to only those records made available to him. His position is essentially that of any hired consultant who is called in, and paid by a company to make recommendations (laughter all around from everyone who ever called in a consultant in this capacity!)
Not a reflection on him personally. He was a good PR choice. Maybe there will be sacrificial lambs. The end zone is far, far away.
BTW, who do you know on Wall Street? Spending time with family in GA this week, I remembered someone who spent years as a stockbroker with a major Wall St firm. We chatted about this case. She told stories about friends there who found out shocking things and, of course, told each other. One was a gay male who ran into his female roommate’s father with his young lover. He was devastated, and told his friends in confidence. The father was high up major corp exec, who had a series of older adolescent males come in from out of country and stay IN HIS HOME, wife present but seemingly unaware.
Interesting conversation. She’ll get back to me after chatting with her Wall St friends during the holidays.
Oh, my point is: I’d never have realized I have a contact with Wall St. connections, except that she mentioned it last time I bought furniture from her. She & hubby now run a furniture store in GA. So, start talking to people. “I’ve been following the Penn State case…”
Somebody knows who else, besides Jerry.
Absolutely. In particular, any profession dealing with children of disadvantage.
B
By 2000, did Second Mile have any information as to the allegations of the 1998 assault, because if they did, why on earth would Ric Struthers agree for MBNA to be the lead sponsor of a testimonal dinner for Sandusky?
MBNA To Sponsor Sandusky Testimonial Dinner And Roast
February 28, 2000
University Park, Pa. — MBNA America has agreed to be the lead sponsor for the MBNA Jerry Sandusky Testimonial Dinner and Roast, scheduled for Friday, April 14, 2000.
Hosted by Penn State Intercollegiate Athletics, the event will be held at the Bryce Jordan Center and will kickoff the annual Blue/White Weekend in University Park. The dinner and roast will be attended by an impressive lineup of past players, coaches, Penn State administrators, and others who wish to share their thoughts and some untold stories about the retired Penn State Nittany Lion football coach.
“MBNA is proud to support Jerry Sandusky and a quality organization such as The Second Mile,” said Ric Struthers, senior vice chairman of MBNA America.
http://www.psu.edu/ur/2000/sanduskydinner.html
Spanier says he told Courtney, Courtney says he did not.
Records are missing, go figure.
There is a mid-level strain of folks we have not seen identified yet, imo. The top-down effect here is very incredible.
B
Struthers with ties to both Penn State and Second Mile
http://alumni.psu.edu/awards/individual/daa/docs/2002-distinguished/Struthers.pdf
erose- before I post your last one, are you cacheing the construction stuff?
At this level, I continue to be shocked at how overt this is- do we know the bid process both submission and evaluation for these contracts at PSU- what is the decision making protocol for incumbant vendors, etc?
B
A missed opportunity for a long term ringside seat: the various buildings on the Boal Estate are now fully rented out. I didn’t realize they were available for rent to the public.
http://rentpfe.com/boal_estate.htm
(Update as of 11-22-11 says they’re fully rented)
http://www.boalmuseum.com/real-estate.html
(In July some of the rentals were still available)
Curley and Schultz are both Boalsburg residents
Wonder what the chat in that barber shop across from Penn State is?
This article from last Thursday is one of the best that I’ve seen at highlighting the nature of the inter-relationships between Penn State and Second Mile, and showing well how and why it is so hard to tell the innocent from the not-so-innocent.
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/patriot-news_special_report_th.html
This is the top positions of The Second Mile Board pre-scandal. I wanted to see just how tied into PSU they are. Not saying my results are through, but surprising, especially Sullivan that just started the business of destroying records. Just a few names, and so many more to go.
Second Mile Board
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Robert Poole – Chairman of the State Board of Directors
S & A Homes and Poole Anderson Construction
Contracts Included:
PSU Softball Stadium 2011, PSU Freshman Housing 2010, PSU Henderson School of Nursing 2009, PSU Johnston Commons 2009, PSU North Residence Hall 2009, PSU Capital Campus – Olmstead Bldg 2008, PSU ADA Renovations 2002, PSU Mt Alto Campus – Food Service Bldg 2001, PSU Mt Alto Campus – General Studies Building 2001, PSU Schreyers Honors College 2000, PSU East Locker Rooms 2000
http://www.pooleanderson.com/projects/prj_project.asp?CategoryID=13&OrderBy=ProjectName&PageNumber=1
This month they are bidding on the PSU Cedar Building and the PSU Moore Building
http://www.pooleanderson.com/bidding/index.asp
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Jack Raykovitz, Ph D – President, Ex-Officio
Psychologist at Midstep Centers for Child Development
Psychologist at Scenery Park Psychology Group
Dr. Raykovitz is a licensed psychologist and certified school psychologist. He received his Ph.D. in school psychology from the Pennsylvania State University in 1985. Dr. Raykovitz is currently inactive at Midstep. He is no longer seeing patients here.
http://www.midstep.com/raykovitz/
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Linda Gall – Vice Chairperson of Administration
PSU Honorary Alumna 2006
PSU The Pink Zone, For the Future Campaign PSU, Palmer Museum of Art PSU
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/linda-gall/31/302/473
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Renee Marks – Vice Chariperson of Programs
** Renee Marks is alumni director for Penn State’s Smeal College of Business Administration.
http://news.smeal.psu.edu/news-release-archives/2001/may01/network.html
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Mike Sullivan – Vice Chairperson of Development
President & CEO Automated Records Centre
(storage of business records)
Founder & CEO at ShredPLUS
PSU – BA Marketing & Management
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mike-sullivan/7/8a6/a75
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Steven Seltzer – Secretary
Amy Seltzer is owner of Seltzer Financial Strategies, LLC in Altoona. Selected as a recipient of the 2008 Best 50 Women in Business Award by the Department of Community and Economic Development and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, she serves on a variety of boards that contribute to economic vitality and promote social, cultural, and educational advancement. A member of the college’s Campaign Council, she began her undergraduate studies at Penn State Altoona and earned her bachelor’s degree in Education from University Park in 1978.
Steve Seltzer attended Penn State’s Altoona and University Park campuses, earning a business degree in 1977. He is owner of Steve Seltzer Honda.
http://www.aa.psu.edu/ivyleaf/sp09/alumni4.htm
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John Sheridan Ed. D. – Assistant Secretary
State College Friends School Board
John joined the Board as an at large member in 2009. He looks forward to involvement with the other Trustees in the daily operations of the school. A recent retiree after a 37 year career as an educator John hopes to use his experience as he approaches issues with which the Friends School must deal.
John has served in roles from teacher to coach, counselor to administrator and confidant to colleague in public and private school settings. Over the last 23 years he has served as the Director of Learning Enrichment and Gifted Support and Student Services for the State College Area School District.
Beyond his work life John has been active in a number of community organizations focused on youth. His work with The Second Mile for over 30 years has allowed him exposure to many ongoing youth issues which impact our students regularly. John believes this experience will also support him in his role on the Board.
http://www.statecollegefriendsschool.org/generalinfo/boardMembers.html
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Ralph Licastro – Treasurer
PSU Professor, Senior Lecturer in Accounting
http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/r/d/rdl2/
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Bill Martin – Assistant Treasurer
Managing Partner at Wienken & Associates (Financial Planning)
District Manager Wienken & Associates – State College
‘77 PSU Grad Finance & Accounting
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:JEpodUBEaKYJ:www.personal.psu.edu/jcm364/blogs/liberal_arts_200_-_spring_2011/media_and_press/Profile%2520-%2520Bill%2520Martin%2520-%2520Personal%2520Bio.doc+bill+martin+%2B+penn+state&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg8UpC63Mo7buuKueZwlzY1ryDwDezuulMjvjoSHFxfq-ckZJYhBseQNV_p2nDGP8tyUv4UnUQLeaG7sEMOEQpNgDDG4u5Jea1u3LUIPTLRiG77Zi83Gtffy4-BhUPqlbItY_3t&sig=AHIEtbRI-GtgPsMgSxnjbmnVKwCM0-k8SA
beejay says:
November 19, 2011 at 7:42 am
It’s gonna take a Philadelphia lawyer, as the old timers say, to inform us of how Paterno and others could protect their assets. Bankruptcy is one area. But also civil money judgments and marital assets. Hard to imagine someone in Paterno’s position wasn’t well-advised long ago on how to hold title to his assets just in the eventuality that somebody got a judgment against him.
I do not believe Paterno has done anything to shield assets to date, or at least I have not seen any evidence of that. When I start seeing living trusts and LLC’s cropping up, I would change my opinion.
I am by no means a forensic accountant, in fact, one might make the argument that my math skills are not on par with some of my others, lol, but I can read 4 pages out of the IRS filings and tell you it is utter BS.
B
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Blink, is Joe Paterno’s lack of shielding assest up until now due to his blantant arrogance and God-like opinion that he and his Penn State status is above the law and criminal charges?
No. I think it is clear he never really grasped the gravity of the situation- by choice or other, I cannot say.
Was he aware of his deity status? of course.
B
Does anybody have a fraternity for Sandusky, class of ’66? I’d like to round up frat brother names for a few years before and after that.
BTW, I’m not keeping much of my research; I’m posting it here, or Blink has off-screen. (Because, ya know, I’m not working on this.)
Have we noted John Surma’s brother, Vic, living in Sandusky’s basement?
“Vic Surma, 61, a starting offensive tackle in college, played from 1968 to 1970 for the Nittany Lions under Paterno. One semester, he said, he lived in a spare bedroom in Sandusky’s basement. He has kept in touch with his former coach through annual golf outings to benefit The Second Mile, the charity for troubled boys that Sandusky created. It’s how Sandusky found his victims, prosecutors said.”
And John Surma:
“…met his wife, Becky, at Penn State. She was a “little sister” of Kappa Sigma, Surma’s fraternity, said friend Geoff Wright, a Mount Lebanon attorney.”
http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/15/2986884/surma-leads-psu-response.html
Penn State selection process for DESIGN professionals on major construction projects:
http://www.opp.psu.edu/planning-construction/design-professional-selection
And here is the bidding for construction.
http://www.opp.psu.edu/planning-construction/Projects%20Out%20to%20Bid/bids
Increasing, they’ve been doing design/build or other contracting variations. Not sure where that would fall in their process.
The requirements for the process might vary with the source of funds. If a single private donor gives $84 million for a hockey program, I’d expect they can say who gets to build it. If, on the other hand, state funds are in the mix for a project, it’s probably a low-bid process after qualification.
Thanks, excellent information.
B
Reading up on the posts and B’s responses. My thoughts lead to the possibility of a child porn ring as well.
7 degrees of seperation, rumor mills, etc….and not 1 person came forward to expose the truth. How can that be?
My fear is that this isn’t being taken seriously enough. We’d be foolish to think this exact systematic form of abuse isn’t going down elsewhere. I also fear Sandusky will croak of natural causes before the full investigation is complete.
Drudge is carrying a link to an article written by Ian Simpson Of Reuters regarding an interview with former Vice-President of Student Affairs Vicky Triponey.
In the interview Triponey speaks of her reasons for leaving PSU. It was primarily because of the special treatment of football players when they committed acts that were outside the allowed rules of the student guidelines. She addresses how Joe Paterno and the former President of PSU would make up new rules on the spot to protect the football players from being penalized for their middeeds.
This is not the only school who behaves in this manner regarding protecting athletics from bad deeds. This lady could probably give some very good testimony about the corruption that existed within the PSU administration during her time on the job (2003-2007).
Disgusted beyond belief it appears there a recent victims still under the age of 18…
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/22/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-new-allegations/index.html?hpt=us_c2
Snipped from link:
The investigations were opened by Children and Youth Services in Pennsylvania, the sources said. In Pennsylvania, cases of alleged child abuse reported by an alleged victim who is an adult are strictly police matters, even if the alleged offenses occurred when that person was a child. Children and Youth Services participates in the investigation only if the alleged victim is still under 18.
erose: you’re also looking under “State College Electrical and Mechanicals, Inc.”:?
State of PA found intentional violation of minimum wage laws awhile back. I didn’t gather anything other than this:
http://www.aopc.org/OpPosting/CWealth/out/1743CD06_5-8-07.pdf
@Beejay
Not sure about his frat brothers, but here is a ’65 roster.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/penn-state/1965-roster.html
Wiki shows:
Player
1963-1965 Penn State Defensive End
Coaching
1966 Penn State Grad Assistamt
1967 Juniata assistant
1968 Boston University assistant
1969 Penn State defensive line
1970 – 1976 Penn State linebackers
1977 – 1999 Penn State defensive coordinator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Sandusky
Terriers recall Sandusky’s BU days
1968 season had drama, but nobody saw scandal coming
http://articles.boston.com/2011-11-21/yourtown/30425893_1_bu-players-jerry-sandusky-bu-football
The information I gathered on Poole’s construction jobs were strictly off of his site, I didn’t cache, but I did copy to word doc. Thank you Lizzy for the bid process info. I am flabbergasted at how overt this is, too. Arrogance? Status Quo?
This is such low hanging fruit, I wonder what we will find when we get the ladder out?
One of the greatest things about online research today is that people trying to hide chit back then never planned on it.
B
Ragdoll, I saw a news story last night that said it’s down to 4 degrees of seperation now with all the social media and stuff.
Blink and others. I wish to HELL I had the time, resources and energy to help in your investigative processes. As you can tell, I can only pop in and out.
I’d give anything to research if and/or how many children have gone missing during this war on them.
Can you imagine the threats to some of these young men/children, “You know what happened to that Gricar guy, wink, right?”
ATG:
What if the governor is one of “them”? and Freeh?
I’m sorry, at this point I find it very hard to trust anyone.
29. landlmom says:
November 23, 2011 at 11:46 am
Disgusted beyond belief it appears there a recent victims still under the age of 18…
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Agreed! This case gets more disgusting by the day! Unfortunately I feel it’s only the tip of the iceberg. I continue to keep all of the victims, known and unknown, in my prayers.
I’m trying to figure the governor out, too. At first glance it seems that things are finally coming out under his administration, but then, there was that stall in the investigation, and this is the first time he is not in the DA’s office for a while.
Boz says:
November 23, 2011 at 1:30 pm
ATG:
What if the governor is one of “them”? and Freeh?
I’m sorry, at this point I find it very hard to trust anyone.
You guys ability to research and dig up all this information is just amazing. I certainly pray it is a step in the right direction towards finding out exactly what was going on and who was involved. What a horrible feeling to think how many vulnerable children were put in harms way and made to feel totally helpless. May each of these young men know we do care and continue to pray for their strength and well being.
Oh, no.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57330819/sandusky-accuser-seeks-to-stop-charity-from-folding/
I hope he really didn’t do anything to a grandchild. But I also really hope that the in-law is telling the truth, so the credibility of others isn’t harmed. No win. A lose, lose situation, unfortunately.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
I think Sandusky is the low-hanging fruit, too. Erose, thanks for the roster; good source. Maybe JS was never in a fraternity.
Wanted to make sure everybody saw this quote, from a lengthy article. I just loved it; wish I could’ve heard it, for all the intonation you miss just reading it:
“Matt Hahn, who played for Penn State from 2004 to 2007, recalls seeing Sandusky around a lot, though the coach had retired in 1999. He usually had young boys with him but nobody suspected a thing. Hahn had a strong reaction to a suggestion by Sandusky’s attorney that hugging in the shower was what “jocks do.”
“Let me make one thing clear,” Hahn says. “There’s no hugging in the shower between any guys, and nobody is rubbing my back and I’m not rubbing anybody’s back, I can tell you that. You hear a 60-year-old man is showering with a 10-year-old boy, that’s enough for me to say, ‘Whoa, that’s not a good thing.’”"
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/19/us/sandusky-memoir-profile/index.html
Just want to make sure you guys working in the background have already figured out that it’s easy to confuse University of PA with Penn State University. I got confused early on when references to “Penn” were made and I couldn’t track down that stuff at Penn State U. “Penn”, to those authors, meant Univ of PA.
Now I see why Second Mile reversed its earlier statements about closing down:
“In a separate legal dispute, a lawyer says Sandusky’s charity, The Second Mile, shouldn’t be allowed to dissolve its assets.
Harrisburg lawyer Ben Andreozzi represents someone who claims to be a victim of Sandusky. The Legal Intelligencer newspaper reported Wednesday that Andreozzi filed a lawsuit seeking an injunction against The Second Mile.
A spokesman for the charity says it received the filing and will adhere to its legal responsibilities.”
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7274012/penn-state-nittany-lions-scandal-one-new-allegations-jerry-sandusky-came-family-member-attorney-says
@erose-
Follow the money back in the 90′s to Tom Ridge. ANd doncha know, they’re thinking of him as Spanier’s replacement. With Freeh (a deputy LE Keep-A-Lid-On-It) and Ridge (political KALOI), they hope to make this go away. But, Penna victims are all over the national map, and are biding their time to speak out. Or, “act out”, as the defense lawyers like to characterize uncomfortable truths being revealed. Let them go right ahead and put these two KALOI’s in place, and watch a new batch of low hanging fruit come out in 2012.
The FBI Link Between Penn State and UC Davis
I’m feeling a bit uncomfortable about former FBI director Freeh at the helm of this independent investigation after reading this article.
http://www.pacificfreepress.com/news/1/10250-the-fbi-link-between-penn-state-and-uc-davis.html
erose and Boz
A very good point about the possibility of the governor and Freeh are tied into this mess. One has to ask the question of why did it take the Governor over three years when he was AG to get to this point?
I will postulate that perhaps as AG he could not get the former Governor to co-operate and had to wait until he could win an election to put himself in the Governors office.
That is why I suggested to have the Governor find an out-of-state attorney to run an independent investigation.
I stated early on that there was corruption everywhere related to this schools athletic programs, administration and the associated non-profit organizations. It now appears that some of the companies doing constrution and other tasks under contract may have some problems too.
IMO Joe Paterno stayed about twenty years too long. Someone made a comment that he had become an old man and allowed things to get out of hand. Some people do get to be old at age sixty-five or sometimes less. That doesn’t mean that everyone fits that pattern.
If you compromise your moral values and just “go along to get along”, things like this can happen.
On that $3 million construction grant to Second Mile, we need to look back into the state legislature:
“According to correspondence from Mr. Corbett’s budget secretary, Charles B. Zogby, the $3 million was first budgeted by the Legislature in 2010 and approved for release by former Gov. Ed Rendell a year ago….”
[Gov Corbett took office, reviewed & approved it]
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11320/1190145-454-0.stm?cmpid=news.xml#ixzz1eebjJ2uP
If anyone needed technology to tell you JS might have been deceptive in his “not a pedophile” interview with Costas, well, technology was applied. I’ll snip some results below for your amusement or edification.
T.J.Ward (yes, the Aruba one) and Lynn Robbins, thru their joint venture, Voice Analysis Technologies, have a gadget that revealed some interesting things. Robbins performed the work in the 11 Alive TV studios (local, Atlanta, GA):
“Robbins says voice analysis showed, “Snapping the towel is high risk, there’s more there.”
High risk means false statement. Low risk would be truthful.”
Robbins analyzed, as reported in this 11 Alive story, JS’ other answers to Costa’s questions. I’ll summarize her finding here:
Medium to high risk on the ‘horsing around’ question.
High risk to the Oral sex seen by the janitor question.
Now another snip:
“Then she analyzed Sandusky’s answer to Costas’ question,”Are you a pedophile?” Sandusky answered, “No.”
Robbins says voice analysis showed “His answer about not being a pedophile ‘no,’ is high risk with an exclamation mark which means say or stop, so he’s holding something back. That’s one of the most deceptive statements he has in the interview.”
link:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&gbv=2&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=2531l2531l0l3632l1l1l0l0l0l0l155l155l0.1l1l0&q=cache:d3bwtR8XMOkJ:http://www.11alive.com/news/article/213029/40/Sandusky-Truth-Test+ATLANTA+–+Jerry+Sandusky+was+not+telling+the+truth&ct=clnk
This is cached. If you want to read the full story, but can’t pull up that one, it was widely picked up. You can find it elsewhere with a keyword search.
Joe Paterno should have initiated an investigation into this whole sordid affair along with his retirement when his assistant reported the incident to him.
He was all about his number of wins and that has been obvious to most observers for years. When coaches become figureheads but stay on to pad their records, the records become invalid IMO. That includes Bobby Bowden who I happen to like a lot as a coach. Like Joe, he seems to be a good person but these guys would not get to where they were without a tough, even ruthless, side.
NBC 10 Philadelphia : Family Member Accuses Sandusky of Abuse http://m.nbcphiladelphia.com/nbcphilly/pm_108054/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=bbtSs5HL
Tip of the iceberg. Follow the money. A lot of innuendo floating around. I have followed some of the money into PSU, politics, campaign contributions, BOT’s, charities, the NCAA, etc.
Thank you Swweetie_Pi for being more specific. I ran across this, OMG another conspiracy theory, ’60′s radical article. Thing is, it has some credible links. Had no idea we are going through a rerun of sorts. Interesting that Corbett and Ridge have been a team before.
I keep waiting for THE story, the actual iceberg, where we find Sandusky pimped and finding THE money, the incriminating money that puts the right guys under the spot light of truth I keep reading about. I’m just trying to straighten out a pot of spaghetti. Thanks for the tip. It helps.
I read an interesting comment about how Second Mile and Penn State (and I will add the State) were in a perpetual Cold War detente. Would love to know what changed that.
https://thegeeman.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/the-sixties-radical-42/
Swweetie_Pi says:
November 24, 2011 at 11:56 am
@erose-
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Follow the money back in the 90′s to Tom Ridge.
Don’t forget Corbett and Zimmerman
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