Shave, Haircut and Child Porn … The Barber of St. Francis, Vernon C. Seitz, PART I
Vernon C. Seitz, 62, was found deceased in his home on December 15, 2008 by Milwaukee, WI police following a wellness check request by a friend. While it appeared Mr. Seitz died of natural causes, what police also found in his home was anything but natural.
Male Child Porn Slides, Photos, Videos, Paintings and Children’s Shoes
Milwaukee Police executed a Search warrant the following day, and seized over 500 pieces of evidence, including male child porn, bondage equipment, a book titled “Eat Thy Neighbor: A History of Cannibalism and children’s shoes. According to a search warrant obtained by TODAY’S TMJ4, “during an emergency sweep of Seitz’s residence officers noticed newly poured cement in Seitz’s basement” and “elevated dirt piles in the yard and bondage devices in the basement, hanging from the floor rafters.”
Also found, of unknown origin, were tufts of what appears to be human hair. Before anyone speculates it would be natural for a barber to have tufts of hair lying around his shop, Verns’ Barber Shop is located 10 miles away. At Seitz’s Packard Ave Barber shop he owned for 20 years, Police found a laminated poster of missing Minnesota Child Jacob Wetterling. Jacob Wetterling, abducted in October 1989 by a masked gunman while riding his bike to rent a movie with his brother and a friend, has never been found. Apparently that is not due to the fact that Mr. Seitz did not make the effort:
The boy’s mother, Patty Wetterling, told the St. Paul Pioneer Press that Seitz came to visit her twice soon after the abduction. He claimed to be a psychic wanting to help and had even given her a painting of Jacob.
“He seemed to care, and he shared that he had his own personal reason to care,” she said, noting that Seitz had had an abusive incident happen to him in the past, which she declined to speak of further. There were a number of not yet disclosed missing children 
posters among Mr. Seitz belongings. However, it appears Mr. Seitz’s concerns for missing young boys extends beyond the domestic. Creepy Barber Guy had a missing person’s poster of Michael Dunhee.
Michael Dunhee, aged 4 ½, disappeared from a park near his home in Victoria, BC in 1991 and has never been found. Michael’s Mother, Crystal Dunahee, told CBC News on Wednesday that she’s not sure whether Seitz ever contacted her family after Michael disappeared, but that the name Vernon Seitz does seem “familiar” to her.
Dust off the Rorschach, shrink needs a shrink
Seitz confessed to his psychiatrist of 11 years, Dr. Victoria Fetter: “He told me that although he liked little boys, he knew that you can’t touch little boys, so what he did was paint them nude,” Fetter said. “He didn’t tell me about kiddie porn or anything that he would get in boiling hot water if he did anything, then he can paint the pictures. That won’t hurt anybody.”
He also told her that he had used what he regarded as his psychic abilities to help the families of missing children across the Midwest but that he never mentioned Jacob Wetterling.
The story of the potential confessions of Vernon Seitz gets more bizarre when you talk with Seitz’s psychiatrist. She told TMJ4′s Charles Benson that the 62-year-old Seitz was on a mission of mercy.
She said Seitz wanted to put his mind at ease about killing a 14-year-boy in Racine back in the late 1950′s when Seitz was only 12-years-old. Fetter wouldn’t comment on whether Seitz ever confessed other crimes to her, citing doctor-patient confidentiality. She said she could only talk about the 1950s incident. Fetter said she was appalled when she found out what police found in Seitz’s house.
Is “boiling in hot water a psychiatric term for spending the rest of your life in the slammer where he becomes the little boy in the scenario? Sources inside the investigation indicate there are discrepancies in Dr. Fetter’s comments to MPD leading up to the passing of Seitz.
If that is true, it will not be the first time Dr. Fetter’s patient management skills have come under scrutiny. In 2000, Fetter was professionally reprimanded by the Wisconsin Medical Board for misconduct of confidentiality and unprofessionalism towards a patient and her family during 1996-1997. This would be right around the time Seitz began seeing her. I did not provide the reference to this information to protect the privacy of the patient involved in the sanction. It can be researched through her medical license, however.
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What did they find under the freshly poured cement ???
I voted for Coke on the advertisement !!! Any idea when I will receive my $50,000
Cases not connected? Seitz would not have acted out on his sick fantasies … are you joking???
He had missing children’s posters in his possessions. Don’t pedo’s take souvenirs of their conquests as a reminder?
This sicko is probably responsible for God knows how many MP cases and sexual assaults.
Thanks to the psychiatrist not thinking this guy was dangerous to those in his surroundings.
R
Where there is smoke there is fire..
I feel this man needs to be looked into in relation to past abductions, child porn cases, etc. You don’t have this amount of child porn, missing/abducted posters, and bondage equipment unless you are involved and using them.
DD
Courtesy of Nut44x4
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/37365524.html
What continues to cause me great concern, is that apparently this psychiatrist is unaware that child porn is illegal. She is shocked and appalled”" at what was found but still does not address the implications of that. Yeesh.”
Criminals love to revisit the scene of their crimes. Vernon C. Seitz, got off visiting the mothers of missing children. Or maybe he just felt guilty? I read a book years ago about the patterns of serial killers. It shocked me how most had so much in common. I had known two people that had some of the same background traits of a serial killer. Our they killers? Probably not. But I have never trusted them. Males also seem to out number female serial killers. Or maybe the females are smarter.
Greg- not touching the who is smarter question
But your right, by far, males outnumber females in the child molestation and serial killer cases.
I am really freaked out that his 20 year Business, was never registered as a Barber Shop in WI.. I am guesing there is random and unannounced inspections in that industry..
What kind of vehicle did this guy drive?
Lastly- A pic or memorial or obit has not been released, although his family feels he was a kind man with no issues.. Uh huh.
There’s a reason why there is so much violence, physical, emotional and sexual; perpetrated against children. But we have no control over it. All we can do is beware of the fact that there are real bogeymen out there that are preying on our children, ever day and in every way. Vernon Seitz took a lot of secrets with him when he died, but there will be justice for all the innocent ones that he abducted, tortured and killed. Jehovah, himself, has done an accounting and there is nothing done, even in secret, that He doesn’t see.
Hope, are you a Jehovah’s Witness? Just curious
You mention Jehovah”" in your comment above
I stand corrected on the obit…
Note that there is no mention of his Father, who is living, or his Mom’s name who was deceased.
Vernon C. Seitz
Seitz, Vernon C. Of Milwaukee and Racine, Monday, December 15, 2008, age 62 years. Beloved brother of Karl A. (Susan) Seitz of Fuquay Varina, NC Dear uncle of Carol (Walt) Bauer, Julie Carter, Theresa (Monty) Barber, and Katie (Chris) Britt. Great uncle of Cheryl Bauer, Lauren Seitz, Montgomery and Jackson Barber. Also survived by cousins other relatives and friends. Owner and operator of Vern’s Barber Shop in St. Francis. Mass of Christian Burial Saturday Dec. 20, 2008, at 10:30 AM in St. Joseph’s Catholic Church corner of St. Patrick and Erie Streets, Racine. Burial Holy Cross Cemetery, Hwy. 32 Racine. Visitation Saturday in church from 9 AM to time of Mass. Memorials in Vern’s name to your favorite charity.
Susan:
And…. Before the flood, there were demons that materialized into men and married women which produced very violent giants. Demons were no longer allowed to materialize and the ones that had violated the women of the earth were caged. In 1914, those demons were released and cast down to the earth along with the rest.
They, especially, target Christian children.
I was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, but am currently studying to be a dedicated servant.
Susan:
Their children, the Nephilim, were destroyed
in the flood… and they’ve had all this time
to think about it. Like the Bible say’s,
Satan is like a roaring lion, looking for
someone to devour.
I wonder what Nancy Disgrace will say about him on Monday ???
Respectfully, to all beliefs, I think the focus needs to be on the individual, and any potential crimes. I don’t think familes of missing children that may be related to this case, care who serves what master, I think they just want answers and to bring their babies home.
Again, submitted respectfully.
B
Absolutely, Blink34, but Susan is a friend.
Besides, who really cares? Everyone knows who my God is and if they ask, I’ll tell them…
Jehovah!
And to think, I used to say the rocks would cry out… and the sea would burp up its’ babies? Carcases under the broken bridge where the children play.
Aruba, The Sea of the Dead.
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Chao for Now.
Those were the days~
It feels good to say it…
Boycott Aruba!
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This guys BAD news.
I’m a Christian and I know that the god of the Jehovah’s Witnesses is Lucifer.
This just came to me. If this guy dies sitting in a chair from hypertensive heart issue-
How is it possible he dug up his backyard? Wouldn’t one assume that with such a serious heart condition digging up his backyard would pretty much kill him during the act?
Who was seen over there? What kind of vehicle did he have? Did somone dig up the backyard after they knew he was dead?
Given the volume of suggestive evidence, it seems strange to me that the police came out so quickly and said there is no reason to think that this guy is involved in anything criminal.
Of course, a cover-up is what we all think of first thing, these days. But doesn’t it seem odd?
At the very least, he seems to have had some lurid interests. That’s not proof of anything, of course.
#17, Heart failure could occur at anytime, maybe brought on by the exertion of digging. Sometimes people having heart attacks are merely temporarily functioning due to adreneline boosts.
There is widespread speculation that the cases of Jacob Wetterling and Johnny Gosch are intertwined.
Bob #16:
I suppose, as a Christian, you know how many
times the name Lucifer appears in the Bible?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer
Sorry, Charlie!
I was going to say that I knew this little boy who was in foster care with a very good friend of mine. He was the worst case of child abuse ever documented in the state of Washington Children’s Services Division. He was, deathly, afraid of movie theaters. His father used to take him to the bathroom and sell him to men at XXX rated theaters. To think about him and his life story, is saddening. He came to be mentally handicapped, for obvious reasons, and became an offender himself. No amount of therapy could cure him.
I don’t know what became of his father. But his adoptive parents had to relinquish him back to the state for they couldn’t afford to keep him in a home until the time he became an adult.
I believe this man was displaying those kind of movies in his ‘barber shop’ and marketing little boys.
Hopefully, Law Enforcement held back the
news to see who his customers were…
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OK, to take some of these points seperately.
The most serious pieces of evidence are the male child porn. This is just plain illegal as well as wrong and exploitation. Yet this does not automatically make him a murderer.
Bondage – not illegal. Not even immoral. There is no evidence that he abducted anyone. And I believe there is an “innocent until proven guilty” theme in the US, no? There is where I’m from, anyway.
Missing Children posters – Yes, these appear damning in combination with the above, especially the first. However, he appears to have believed he was psychic. Perhaps he even was, although there is no evidence he ever managed to find any of those children who were missing. Even morbid curiosity is not a crime. The person who created this website has detailed information carefully collected about dozens of crimes. I have to say that under this draconian outlook, he or she must have been a -very- busy little bunny to have committed -all- of them.
Cannibalism book – I currently have several books about programming. This does not (alas!) make me a programmer. I have read books on Islam, Judaisism, Druidism and various political outlooks. I’d be rather bewildered to be all of them. Also have read several books on black magic in interest. This does not make me a goat-worshipping demon-summoner. Am amazed that no-one insisted that he kidnapped and ate people yet. After the comment about the XXX movie theatre barbershop pimp theory, I’d believe people could come up with anything.
Dahmer connection – Rubbish. I live in Ireland. That does not mean I bombed Omagh.
Seitz abused as a child – Not a crime, although I do know the common view that abused children becoming abusing adults. Not all do.
Piles of dirt in the backyard, concrete in the basement – Piles of dirt happen. Let’s see if anything can be found before throwing comments around. I have not heard of anything being turned up yet.
Overall, this evidence is not damning. Human remains under the dirt piles and we have something to go on here. The neighbour witness mentioned about a jackhammer being brought in. Seemingly nothing was found; otherwise I am sure there would be more hits than just the man’s obit and this website in the past several months.
The evidence of the psychiatrist – This shows that this man knew he had unhealthy appetites and, equally, that he could and should do nothing on them because it was wrong. How well he could resist those temptations is not clear. He fell to some extent as the painting and porn shows. There is, however, no evidence that he ever physically touched a child. No evidence does not mean he categorically did not any more than it means he did.
The religion arguments – ….irrelevent to the entire issue, especially the anti-JW troll.
So. We can take the outlook that either, as some posters have suggested, this man was a homicidal paedophile who got away with abducting and murdering a number of children and presumably burying them in the basement.
We could also conclude that he was a rather simple man (hard to tell, just something I considered from his quotes) who was abused as a child, leading to him having a fixiation about other children missing and in danger that he wanted to save, by means of his “psychic abilities”. We can also consider that he either knew he had unhealthy appetites or was lead into them (if we take evidence of relatives convictions) and did his best to control them by talking regularly to a psychiatrist and playing out his fantasies in what he considered to be the most harmless way he could. I AM NOT CONDONING CHILD PORNOGRAPHY!! Get that right, please. It is wrong, disgusting, exploitative and abusive, even if the end user does not realise that last one. HOWEVER! It is ALSO not murder.
Either way, we can conclude that the matter was being looked into by the police. If there is something to be found under the cocrete and dirt piles, it will be. Until then, remember that this man is dead and cannot defend himself. Pass judgement on him if you (to bow to the Believers who have made their presense so thoroughly felt) have no guilt on your own souls. But do not charge him with murder until there is actual evidence for it. This man had a family who loved him. They are wondering things too. You do not have to make things harder for them.
And to the owner of this site: you have a responsibility to everyone you talk to and talk about, my friend. Do not abuse it. Perhaps your insinuations and ideas are correct. Perhaps they are not, in which case you have gravely wronged this man and his relatives and friends.
Relevent arguments and refutations welcome. But can we please stay off the religion?
Hey Aries, Instead of worrying about this dead guys rights why don’t you do a little investigating on your own instead of wasting so much space? You might find it interesting.Step
O my, Step, I guess I need to review old comments as I missed that.
B
Sorry Aries, sorry Blink, got out on the wrong side of bed! Step.
Hey Blink, Me again, I was just reviewing your articles on Seitz,and if I remember correctly one article states that a pair of children’s shoes were found somewhere in his house along with all that other weird crap they found in his basement torture chamber.How long can DNA last on some of these articles? Long enough to compare them with any of those posters they found in his bedroom? Step.
Hey Blink: I asked for forgiveness, I am down on my hands and knees, what do you want? Step.
?
B
Blink, If people want to get info to you how do they go about it? Step.
You can post here and I will keep it private.
B
Blink: You lost me! Computers are fairly new to me. Where do you put info? How do you keep it private? Step
comment here as usual, I am the only one who sees it, I will review and then delete.
B
Hey Blink, Any of those forensic reports back on Vernon Seitz? Thanx, Step.
Nobody is talking. Getting ready to open a can.
B
Blink, keep opening cans, I hope there is more to come but it looks like a beginning? Thanx. STEP.
Hey Blink, Open anymore cans on Seitz? There was some general stuff written, I just hope you got more? Step.
Any news on Vernon? I will never forget his creepy art and all of its implications.
Not current, but honestly, I have been too jammed to restart his case. Trust me when I tell you that I believe Mr. Vernon’s case is every bit as ominous as we think.
I received a very informative docier from someone who has worked on Mr. Vernon, before Mr. Vernon was known to us; we have plans to work on that soon.
B
I might be out to lunch, as usual…but…something about ‘step’ is very questionable. I hope this is the can you’re opening or at leasting looking into Blink.
I remember Michael’s story vividly. This is what changed the world for me. A boy taken within feet of his own family. Mr. Vernon sounds way too skilled for my liking.
~love~
Nope, Step is solid.
B
#26 Aries
QUOTE:
The religion arguments – ….irrelevent to the entire issue, especially the anti-JW troll
UNQUOTE
Agreed! I’m confused as to why that is brought into the picture but it’s peculiar as I’ll get out!
Thank ya Blink, Love ya! STEP
Just thought of Danny and said a prayer…I hope the mystery is solved someday. Prayers of continued strength for his family.
If I live to be 100 there are many aspects of this case and Mr. Seitz I intend to revisit with vigor.
B
I don’t know if you’re aware but Vernon’s shrink has had her medical license suspended for not following through with her continued education requirements which were part of her sanction for throwing pt personal info in a bathroom garbage can. I wonder whose chart she tossed in the can?n Now that Vernon’s deceased and she is retired maybe she would be more willing to talk about what else Vernon has told her.
Thank you Lacy, I am aware. Imo, she should not have been able to practice since the first mess.
B
I just got goosebumps Blink. Go for it!
Your work is greatly appreciated by myself and many others!
STEP
Thank you kindly.
B
#41 Lacy: What do you think is going to happen, your take on this whole thing? Do you really think she has a bunch to offer?
STEP
Hey Blink: Nice to see you back in the swing of things. This is your true calling!Unfortunately you have to take the good with the bad even in our personal lives as well.
STEP
Thank you STEP, agreed.
B
Blink: You mentioned last night on Scared Monkeys you will be working on an old cold case? Any idea when we will know something about it? STEP
It is not that one friend, but I do hope to write that.
B
Blink: Have you had the opportunity or the time to get hold of and read Vanished by Valerie Green. The new book on Michael Dunahee’s disappearence.
STEP
I received it as a gift but have not had the time- my caseload just got worse I am afraid.
I wish I could suspend time to get caught up or work on everything I would like.
B
Blink : Is there anything different at all about this Seitz-Dunahee-Barter-Wetterling situation that you could put on the website. Just dying to know!
STEP
Blink: I am about as fast as a turtle in reading. The book is rather short I finished in it one day’s time!
STEP
Blink: The author claims to have followed the Dunahee case from the get-go but she seems to have left out some things about the New Jersey sightings on purpose? This maybe to entice someone to call the tipline numbers she has listed in her book? That leaves a blank spot in my mind.
STEP