Kyron Horman Case: Uncle Kristian Horman Is Convicted Of Child Molestation Charges
Seattle, WA– Kristian S Horman, Uncle to missing 7 year old Kyron Horman, was sentenced yesterday for his conviction on charges of child molestation. He was incarcerated immediately.
| Book Number | CIN | Book Date | Race | Sex |
| 2010011682 | 552430 | 6/16/2010 14:25:00 | W | M |
| Charge Description | Disposition | |
| CHILD MOLESTATION 3 (0084030) | COMM | |
| RCW/Code | Bail Amount | Court |
| 9A.44.089(2) | $0 | |
| Charging Agency | Charge Date | Arrest Type |
| SNOHOMISH COUNTY SHERIFF | 6/16/2010 14:25:00 | CM |
Kristian Horman is being held without bail in Snohomish County, WA. He was arrested in January 2009, and although his trial was delayed due to several continuances, there appears to be multiple arrests on his record, some of which are unaccessible to the public.
It is unclear if Horman’s arrest is related to Kyron Horman’s disappearance.
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Thanks, Blink. I feel so much better now
the statement from the family read in the press conference? Ummm, they say they are preparing to [celebrate][observe][whatever] father’s day but without Kyron this year. How do they know he won’t be home? some may directions to take that…
Anyone know what kind of vehicle Uncle Kristian drives?
Is anyone else concerned by the family’s statement the Captain read aloud today – the family said “for the first time in seven years we will not have Kyron around on fathers day.” Isn’t that two days away?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-rather/pornland-oregon-child-pro_b_580035.html
Sadly enough there are more detectives investigating drug offenses than child porn! This article by Dan Rather, written on May 18, 2010 is very chilling. Here’s a snip.
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>>There is, and has been for a long time, a national “War on Drugs.” There isn’t one on child prostitution and what amounts to a slave trade. Only feeble efforts at best.
Justus is frustrated that the Portland police have only two full-time vice investigators, compared to dozens of drug investigators.
“I’m not a politician. I’m just a cop. But if I’m a criminal and I got busted for drugs and I had a regional (drug) task force over here. And there’s another task force over there, and there, and then I know there’s only two vice investigators in the city of Portland, let me think. I think I’ll sell women because what are the chances of me being caught?”<<
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They talk mainly about girls, but I’m sure that boys are included in this. What if Kyron was sold, and is actually still out there?
I really want death sentences for the people who are into any type of endangerment to children. I’m sorry to those who disagree, but this problem is bigger than most people can imagine, and it has to be stopped. They CAN NOT be rehabilitated-stop pretending it’s possible, because it’s not! I say that death sentences to child molesters and killers and all people who prey on our precious kids in so many horrific ways, has got to happen, because what we are doing now for punishment IS NOT WORKING! It’s just not working.
The pics of the man and woman on blinks site are not the same people in this flickr site. Whether or not this scott person is using actual pics of himself or is using fake pics is another thing. As far as the pics tough? not the same people.
The focus on the stepmom is heating up and I’m wondering if this is a calculated move by LE.
I offer two different scenarios (in my opinion only) on why they are turning up the heat on TMH.
1) She is their prime suspect and is expected to cave under the pressure. Or…
2) She is not their prime suspect but someone very close to her is. They are gambling that the scrutiny and pressure they put on her will “smoke out” this other person.
My question: Do we think a person could allow someone they care about to be falsely accused for a horrendous crime they committed themselves?
Kristian Scott Horman is 33 years old and the Scottie Horman on myspace/flickr/the boats etc is 31.
Not the same person.
Going along with what you’ve said is that some (maybe the same posters?) were trying to tell others they saw the DATE stamp on the original sci-fair pic that step-mom had uploaded to her facebook. Taken on the 3rd, not the 4th. They were posting the info during the hoopla over the facebook games & postings & TIME zones and all, and that info was lost in the fray. And as you say, dismissed. By the time the zone info was all sorted out, step-mom had yanked her pics down, then deleted her facebook acct.
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I’m not sure I have this right, as most of the info out there seems to be secondhand, but I think the buzz had been not about a timestamp on the picture, but rather the blackboard having the previous day’s date on it. In that case, it might just be a matter of school wasn’t officially in session at that point, and so the date wasn’t yet changed to the 4th. Not sure.
As for the SM’s facebook account, I’m kinda iffy on that as well; again secondhand info. It seems that it wasn’t taken down, but made private when her posts were criticized (like going to the gym, or not having Kyron’s pic up when all her friends did). AFAIK, the account itself was still there, just not accessible to the general public. I don’t have facebook and didn’t see the account itself, I think the timestamp issues were in reference to the idea that she was online before/after Kyron’s disappearance, playing games; but I think that was debunked by the timestamp thing. Someone in a different time zone saw the posts displayed in their time zone, not the SM’s time zone.
One other thing, with regards to the uncle. Again, everything is so closed-off and secretive, so nothing really but rumors out there. But, its been said that Kristian Horman had a consensual relationship with a teen girl, but was prosecuted because she was underage and not able to give consent (ie statutory rape). I have no idea if that is truly the case, but if so, it would make it less likely, imo, that the uncle was a danger to Kyron.
I just read something in the Oregonian about a flier with step-mom’s pics, and a pic of the white truck being newly circulated. Any more info? Seems indicative of her being a POI…what do you think, Blink?
Re: marketingscott. There’s no way that’s the same person as Kristian. Even if Kristian lost a lot of weight and dyed his hair– compare their hairlines and skin coloring; completely different. Not to mention the wife. Kristian’s has very close-set eyes and the other one has very wide-set ones among other things. Someone should probably take down that link.
I read that Kristian was sentenced to 3 months. THREE MONTHS. For molesting a child. A family member. It makes me want to throw up. We put people who smoke pot in jail for longer than that. Mind you, I don’t do drugs but still if I had to rank crimes child molestation would deserve a hell of a lot longer sentence then growing weed in your backyard.
Well wow again. I had to pop out for some prior planned activities.
I just reviewed the press conference. My take is they want witnesses to come forward to discuss what they saw of SM on June 4th. Could it be no-one has stated they saw her besides the little boy? Might he be unsure now? Also, did the students bring their projects the afternoon before and that is why they are asking about June 3rd? That might coincide with the possible theory Kyron & SM weren’t there on the 4th. Maybe she snapped the photo at setup time on the 3rd for preparation for the posting on the 4th? Since we know she has spent ample time there at the school, might she have left his back pack on his desk the PM before? Being familiar with the routine and grounds?
I am worried they have not found him yet. Does anyone think he may have been transported to Washington? Like someone else mentioned, do we think the plots in the storybook could be real live places that the family has visited?
Also, yes Mom3, his left arm is not visible. Could be way behind his back? Or, doctored in some way?
They need to find him!
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/friend_says_terry_moulton_horm.html
It seems like the SM did have a conversation with the teacher that morning, so I’d say there should be no doubt she was at the school the morning of the Science Fair. The claim is there that the SM told the teacher that Kyron had an appt. to go to; but that she meant for the following week and the teacher somehow misunderstood. That would explain why the teacher didn’t think it was odd that Kyron was absent from class.
I’m not sure why the info is coming out now; I don’t think it helps the SM at all. Sure it proves she was at the school with Kyron that morning; but it could also be looked at as setting up a crime/alibi. She tells the teacher Kyron has an appt., so that would buy time to do something to him because the teacher would think he was with the SM and no need to sound the alarms that he’s missing. The fact that the SM says the appt. was for the following Friday could be an honest mistake, but it could also be part of the plan, by saying the teacher misunderstood. It still buys her time and shifts the blame.
I really don’t now what to think. Except I would say this squashes any rumors that SM and Kyron weren’t at the school the morning of the SF. And it helps the teacher imo. Not that I’ve ever thought the teacher suspicious, but some blame has been assigned to her for not raising a red flag on Kyron’s absence when she knew he had been there earlier.
@ TJ June 19, 2010 at 12:03 am
“I read that Kristian was sentenced to 3 months. THREE MONTHS. For molesting a child. A family member. It makes me want to throw up. We put people who smoke pot in jail for longer than that. Mind you, I don’t do drugs but still if I had to rank crimes child molestation would deserve a hell of a lot longer sentence then growing weed in your backyard.”
I nominate this for post of the day.
Blink, I posted a comment late in the morning to Crime Writer.
I don’t see it anywhere and I’m wondering…..did I cross a line (pretty sad if I have to ask….but I really am not sure)? I sincerely apologize if I did. xo
I really think this all boils down to the Stepmother being severely jealous of the relationship of the Bio Mother and Kyron as well as a possible friendly relationship of the Bio Mother with her husband.
Maybe there were certain parenting ideas that were being suggested or implemented by the Father and Bio Mother together without step Mom approval, Making Step Mom very agitated with interfence of Bio Mom.
So what does Step Mom Do? She takes Kyron out of the picture and Now the Bio Mom will be out of the picture too. Therefore, Step Mom can feel like she has a life with her husband now.
Sad , but this is my theory.
Looks like Kaine’s brother actually got 6 months, and the accusation was that he groped a 14-year-old relative. Thankfully it wasn’t rape, but a grown man taking a young girl to sleep in his bed because his gf is away surely doesn’t have innocent intentions.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_paternal_uncle_s.html
Sadly, predators rarely offend victims of both sexes. He abused his girls from what I can gather of the SO. He isn’t into little boys.
TMH (or REDSQRL) has attempted online to make many exuces for her behavior, things like her Teachers Cert not being valid at this time, making excuses that the “media has it wrong” “don’t listen to them”.
I have suspected Ms Horman from the get go, and don’t have much better feelings about Kaine; exactly what were his movements that morning and who was watching Kitty?
Where was Kitty when Terri was helping Kyron set up his science fair project? Was she left in the car?
What was Terri doing at Sauvie Island that morning?
Her facebook writings are a huge heads up into the life of this woman and what she is all about. She cannot hide her narcissim one bit, and she also then took down her profile and page, people with nothing to hide, hide nothing.
You only have to look past the threshold of their own front door, to find little Kyron.
Kathleen
Sadly, Kristian’s 6 months is far more than the typical sentence for such an offense. If he hadn’t admitted it (even though he gave an excuse), it might not even have been prosecuted. It is unfortunate that the likely identify of the victim is obvious, and that this has received so much publicity because of the timing. What a wreck for the poor teenager. There may be many reasons that SG married him anyway–one might be that she believed his excuse, and the other that she saw the girl as being used as a pawn by her mother. The whole thing is just sad all around.
All of my speculations about what may have happened to Kyron are even more depressing. I’m almost hoping that the SM did it, because that is probably LESS tragic than most of the other scenarios that I have imagined. Somehow, I think Walsh is wrong and it won’t be the media or blogs that solve this one . . .
If Terri took the picture of Kyron’s project at school, then it’s pretty sure that she also took and posted on FB the one of his friend with his project also on the Red-Eyed Tree Frog. That project can be seen in the left rear of the Kyron photo. So the date/time of the pics can absolutely be pinned down by his friend, right? Musings about photo oddities then become irrelevant, I think.
Interesting to see how many are Monday morning quarterbacking, but a lot of it makes sense IMO. As far as Kyron being “an expert on the red-eyed tree frog,” I’d sure like to know what the feeling of the school staff was on that take from The Oregonian the other day–actually a week ago, today. And, the SMs comment that she only helped him with the laminating. Oh, woe! What about the background? Looks awfully professional for a 2nd grader, even if he was good. Thus, comparing it to his other drawings and such in the classroom would be neat to know about.
And, how does one become an expert on tree frogs if you don’t have them in your display? Only book learning went on here??? Seems odd doesn’t it?
after watching the video of the parents speaking at news conference, It seems as seems as though the step dad & real bio mom are the only ones noticeably upset..anyone else see this>? The real dad seems to be numb & step mom seems too busy consoling real mom. I know everyone reacts different but it seemed odd to me
Here are my “missing” posts as I last saw them, just in case some by others were lost, too. Unless you had to delete them for some reason.
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Sadly, Kristian’s 6 months is far more than the typical sentence for such an offense. If he hadn’t admitted it (even though he gave an excuse), it might not even have been prosecuted. It is unfortunate that the likely identify of the victim is obvious, and that this has received so much publicity because of the timing. What a wreck for the poor teenager. There may be many reasons that SG married him anyway–one might be that she believed his excuse, and the other that she saw the girl as being used as a pawn by her mother. The whole thing is just sad all around.
All of my speculations about what may have happened to Kyron are even more depressing. I’m almost hoping that the SM did it, because that is probably LESS tragic than most of the other scenarios that I have imagined. Somehow, I think Walsh is wrong and it won’t be the media or blogs that solve this one . . .
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June 20, 2010 at 1:56 pm
If Terri took the picture of Kyron’s project at school, then it’s pretty sure that she also took and posted on FB the one of his friend with his project also on the Red-Eyed Tree Frog. That project can be seen in the left rear of the Kyron photo. So the date/time of the pics can absolutely be pinned down by his friend, right? Musings about photo oddities then become irrelevant, I think.
Oh, great, never mind. I posted to the wrong thread, and then didn’t refresh. Forgive me!!!!
I have also been totally bewildered by this case, the pieces I thought to be missing from what the public should be told to help find this beautiful boy with a contagious smile, yet a deep sadness in his eyes in the Science Fair pic, yet the secrets are so wide spread. It seems to me with all the missings pieces its hard to tell the good guys from the bad. I felt so frustrated by what has been released to the public, I go back to having to believe the police etc. know what they are doing, As a parent I would have to know to a certainty that is the case or I certainly would have my pleas heard, read, seen to find my child on every media source available. I like everyone out there hope and pray for a “fairy tale” ending to this,like someone out there is hiding this precious boy from the monsters out there. It is heartbreaking to see the most emotional statements for his wellbeing have come from from a member of law enforcement and not a parent, family member or even a close friend of the family friend. In my frustration I ask “who loves this boy and why arent they showing it dammit”.I so want to believe a custody issue has Dad & SM so desparately not wanting to lose him that they staged this whole nightmare and he his off having the time of his life, without a care in the world !. I know maybe I should write childrens books.
The 14-y-o girl who was molested after allegedly consenting to getting into Uncle K’s bed and having him massage her – have we confirmed that this is now his stepdaughter? If so, this is extremely suspicious to me as all reports indicate that Uncle K and this girl’s mother are now married. Where does this girl live now? Does she still have contact with him? Was this indeed a nonconsensual situation? (Obviously from a legal standpoint, that doesn’t matter – but for the theory developing in my head regarding how this might involve Kyron’s disappearance, it absolutely does.) Who actually reported the attempted molestation to LE?
I would be very interested in knowing more about this family. I can’t put my finger on it, but I’m getting some super-hinky vibes.
I think the fact that this is a relative is all I am comfortable with on here, as the charge itself reflects that.
B
Eloise says:
June 19, 2010 at 12:23 am
Does anyone think he may have been transported to Washington? Like someone else mentioned, do we think the plots in the storybook could be real live places that the family has visited?
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the mountain loop highway and Sauk river is infact a real place. Located in the Mt Baker-Snoqualmie national forest is eastern Snohomish county, WA. This area is roughly an hour east of Edmonds and / or Everett, an hour and change out of Seattle, 4 1/2 +/- from the Portland area. There are two river drainages from this area along the loop highway, seperated by Barlow pass near the abandoned mining town of Monte Cristo. The Sauk river flows north toward Darrington, the Stillaguamish flows west into Puget sound north of Everett. The loop highway isn’t much of a highway. It is a national forest road, paved nearly to Barlow pass from Granite falls, continuing as dirt most of the way to Darrington. It is both desolate and well-travelled, as this is greater Seattle’s backyard. There are probably a dozen official campgrounds, many many more unofficial as this is national forest land with camping anywhere unless it is posted that you can’t. Note that this is resource exploitive tree-farm area as well. There are hundreds of forest service roads that criss-cross this wilderness. This area is not far, in relative terms, from Uncle K and seems to be the area where the dad centered his stories. The family is likely very familiar.
does Kristian have a son named Kurtis? Im not sure if there is anything to the man in the background ‘theory’ but i would be interested to know if Uncle Kristian was there that morning at the school….
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/06/22/kyron-horman-update-man-spotted-in-photo-from-stepmoms-facebook-page/
http://wweek.com/editorial/3633/14183/
part of article at above link:
That same year, Kaine Horman’s brother, Kristian Horman, was arrested for child molestation.
Snohomish County Superior Court records say Kristian Horman, 32, was living with his girlfriend, her mother and his 1-year-old son in Bothell, Wash. On Oct. 24, 2008, the daughter of Kristian Horman’s ex-wife stayed at his house while his girlfriend was out of town. The records say Kristian Horman invited the girl, who was 15, to sleep in his bed. He massaged her back, then began rubbing her crotch. The girl left the bed and called her mother, and Kristian Horman apologized.
When police interviewed him, Kristian Horman at first said he was asleep and couldn’t remember what had happened. Finally he confessed, according to court records, saying he was trying to “arouse and initiate relations” with the girl.
Police asked Kristian Horman what he was thinking about after the girl pulled away. He then revealed there was a history of abuse in the Horman family, court records show, and said his grandfather had abused him.
“He indicated that he was thinking about all the stuff his grandfather had done to him,” the court records say, “and remembering how he felt during the time.” Kristian Horman was sentenced June 16 to six months in jail.
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