Morgan Harrington Murder Update: DNA Links WANTED SUSPECT
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Hi everyone,
Thanks for the welcome!
Hello its me Ginger! I’m so sad the about the forum breaking. I was posting when it went down.. I will miss everyone. The last thing I could say was, he is speckled amoung goats,. Like that helped. Dude is going to stick out for sure. I tried to leave a coment on Gils new blog no go. I will always think of Dan and Gil BIG HUGS!! LOVE!!!! AND PRAYERS!
checking to see if I can post first one isnt showing
Your Up Ginger, you might have to click on older or newer posts my friend.
B
It is very sad to see/hear of anybody who is lacking even basic human compassion, people, do not forget this:
A young girl went to a rock concert with her pals and was murdered.
Is there too much emphasis on Anchorage farm?
Could it just be a random location?
Why haven`t the BB players been disected here?
Not one feasible explaination has been put forward as to why they were initially reluctant to come forward and lay aside the athlete protection crap that is so prevalent in American society, that is exactly the attitude that gave OJ a pass on a double homicide.
That attitude was motivation for Harris, Klebold and Cho.
A news story about the Harringtons’ visit to Copley Bridge today:
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/98660944.html
I am so, so happy to see they already have a meeting set with incoming UVa President Sullivan. Excellent.
Write your letters, everyone; welcome the new UVa president and ask to her to demand answers from University and City law enforcement regarding student safety AND Morgan’s case, to require transparency from all administration regarding same, and to advocate for greater awareness within the Charlottesville community at large–its students, locals, and workers who must travel from surrounding counties for work. It’s a huge issue but President Sullivan must get the message and attack it. I have this feeling she will.
(I wish John Casteen all the best; I admire the man despite my desire for a new openness regarding women’s safety and zero tolerance for any threats to it.)
I do owe the many members of the forum an explanation and an apology for the rapidity of closing the forum down withour explanation. Threats had been made towards members of the administration of the forum and this on top of the enormoud stress Gil and I are living under was the straw that broke the camel’s back – so to speak.
I agree that when I reopen the forum, some members may not return, while a few will not be allowed back on. Gil and I are deeply grateful for all that people have done to help solve this case and give us support. My abrupt closing was needed for my own mental health.
In my naivete I have such a hard time understanding people who are evil and want to hurt others. Some, like the Morgan’s murderer, are overtly evil but people can also be evil with their words and actions. The forum, Blink’s forum and HFMH facebook are not intended to be used as a vendetta against others.
I am sorry my skin is so thin and again I deeply am appreciative and am so sorry for my abrupt actions.
Dan Harrington
I do not want to dilute Dr. Harrington’s words in any way, but this makes me furious.
It is revictimization, pure and simple.
Dr. H does not owe a soul an apology. His daughter was murdered. Idiots have attempted to use that horror to spend their day. There are times when that reality has made me wish to throw in the towel.
Then I realize, it is not about me. This child was left to rot in a field, what the hell is wrong with people?
This is THEIR CHILD. Morgan could be any one of our daughters, yes. But she was not.
She is theirs. Respect People.
B
FYI:
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12826804
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/harringtons_suspect_2_were_involved_in_daughters_death/58293/
“The parents of Morgan D. Harrington, the 20-year-old who vanished after a Metallica concert in Oc-tober, said Saturday that they believe two people were involved in their daughter’s disappearance.
…
“How does a person from Northern Virginia know about 15th Street?” Dan Harrington asked. “It’s not a place you happen to find.””
http://www.virginiasports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17800&SPID=10616&SPSID=88842
The above is the UVA Men’s Basketball Website.
On it you will find the team roster dating back to 2007-08 season. Players have left for a myriad of reasons. Graduation, academics, conduct unbecoming, and such.
Do I think that the UVA players that have been let go by Coach Bennett had anything to do with Morgan’s disappearance/murder.
I don’t know.
What I do know is that someone is walking around a free man.
And, while the players may have just run into her and talked with or even ignored Morgan for whatever reasons. In the end, they were in the same lot as she.
What did they see, what did she say, was there anyone else that made their own “hinkey meter” go off? Maybe looking back they remembered something or someone.
Where are they now?
http://www.virginiasports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17800&SPID=10616&SPSID=88842
In this article, Ms. Wood, UVA spokesperson said that,
“They cooperated fully with law enforcement investigators”
Ok, I’ll accept that but since we have no one yet behind bars for murdering her, then, I guess I will take this all at face value. Afterall, did they come forward volutarily or not? I hope that the ones released from the team have gone on and found some kind of productivity.
I would imagine it would be difficult to have the knowledge that within a few short hours of speaking or interacting with Morgan Harrington, she’s murdered. Then, I would think that they might be a little retrospective. Then again, I saw their facebooks, their VCS records, and it just seems to me that a few of them needed some guidance.
I almost find myself thinking cutting them loose was not such a good thing. Where was the support from their university, their coach? Maybe it truly was three strikes and you’re out! (wrong sport, I know)
I hope that puts us all on the same page. I remember Observer thought that she truly believed that they had nothing to do with Morgan’s disappearance.
Do you still believe that O?
Were they just scared, misguided, floundering kids even as collegiate-level athletes?
Or do you think that they managed to outwit, outlast, outplay LE??
Someone put an end to this speculation of these guys.
How about UVA taking part in this. Your smart people and can figure out a way to say it without saying it. Although, Coach Bennett always says what he means. hmmmmmm I read that somewhere.
Please, they need to be productive members of whatever university they are now at and if not there, then how about society in general.
I believe that UVA should have had a more proactive approach in the decision not only of “cutting them loose” but the statement made by UVA after, in light of Morgan Harrington missing and then found murdered.
If these guys had and have nothing to do with the murder of Morgan then UVA certainly did not do these guys a favor. They left them blowing in the wind for the VA community to dissect.
Which, I agree with. They were afterall, the last ones to see her.
But, how about the unbelievable speculation those guys must have been under. I know Blink, even knowing their “raunchy FB’s”. Remember, college sports is big money and UVA was more than willing to let these guys work for them. I’m thinking if you have a winning season or maybe not, 4 years scholarship still doesn’t equal what a team brings in to the unversity. I could be wrong.
So, to end this Liam, yes, we dissected them here. Loads! I’m game to go over it with you, if you want. Maybe we should be back to going over and over from the beginning? Maybe?
And, about Anchorage Farm, well, we have all seen TDBone’s work product. No way random, no way. Look where they would have trekked out to. Is this some place that one just drives around and around and then hauls out to a creekbed and in the dark?
No, I’m going with Lt. Rader on this one. Knew the farm or the area around the farm. This guy is/was a local.
“The streams, fences and rugged landscape of Anchorage Farm, where the 20-year-old Roanoke County woman’s body was found last week, would have deterred anyone who did not know the farm or surrounding land, said state police Lt. Joe Rader on Thursday.”
“We don’t believe those are challenges someone unfamiliar with the area would confront,” Rader said, adding that the body’s location is the “most significant” aspect of the investigation so far.
“Investigators believe the person may have traveled, worked, recreated, visited or periodically passed through the farm or nearby area,” Rader said. “You could not have just walked in there without having to be able to negotiate things. You had to be familiar with the layout.”
o.k., I’m back
Actually, I really am going to take a little break in preparation for ALL the reading there will no doubt be to catch up on once FM comes back up, which I personally believe will be soon.
I did want to pop in and offer my opinion, fwiw, re; the basketball players and their family members ~ imo, not involved in ANY way. jmo, of course.
Back to researching quietly in the background.
And, taking a break
I’m so sad that Find Morgan had to close due to death threats to mods not cool and yes very evil. I’ll never understand people but I so do understand why Dan felt the need to take a break. I did for a month then Morgan went and got me, I know sounds nuts and my daughters are still alive, so I can only imagine how Dan feels. They want justice for their daughter not threats to people around them. I want the Harringtons to take care of themselves, I do tend to forget how stress can affect a person. Cant they stop the evil poster? That should be against the law, undue stress?
You guys break for as long as needed!! Enough of the rant but I was hopeing that they were getting somewhere with the perp. I hope that is still possible. I get some wild ideas about stuff sometimes lol.
I’d like to take time to thank all of the posters of FM, your a wonderful bunch of people!! I also had a few good ideas from them! Kudos to Questioner for keeping it going!! I did miss what site it was just so she knows.
I’m psychic and do bible codes so if your not into that dont read the below stuff, its only my opinion.
About the perp, Dan says northern VA is that because of where the DNA connection was made? I did keep seeing the word NOVA, still think its some temp place has to do with birds, goats, Roanoke, Salem, seeds, Mr Oaty or Oatter, sun, bow and maybe not the rug store? Someone who stays at motel and hotels goes to day camp area’s or like Old Rag mountain? I should throw in king and prince and ties to a church or priest. Oh and then there is the horse and cart I’m still hanging on to that one just incase. I was thinking a kick boxer guy? He would be a little older and probably not very good lol. Also has something to do with and ER or RN, emt? Somehow someway. It was brought to my attention that the hospital in Salem had the medical snake light, it reminded them of a tattoo. I have thought of construction also. It could be a vet to that travels. I do get BIRDS FOREMAN, HIRED HAND, LEFT HAND there is going to be something about his left hand IDK what, snake tattoo?? he is also speckled amoung goats, what ever that means. Lots of animal stuff has always come up. Clues that could mean anything.
Sorry Blink I couldn’t help myself lol
Prayers and thoughts of well being to ALL!!!!God bless!!
Two Cents!
You go, University of Virginia President, Theresa Sullivan, you go!
Make your voice be heard for every young girl on your campus and in your city. We all need to hear it.
Support that family with everything you got and if you don’t have enough then call us…
…there in a heartbeat!
I would simply like to know which players were in the RV lot and what Morgan said to them. What is wrong with asking that?
TO: Justice: You have email.
TO: acho: It is very encouraging that Dr. Sullivan will be meeting with Dan and Gil Harrington. Her tenure at the University begins officially on August 1. I remain hopeful that she will effect positive change in a myriad of ways.
RE: Dan’s words at Copeley this past weekend, as seen in the Newsplex article: “They think it can’t be them,” says Dan Harrington of young people’s feelings of invincibility. “That this is not something that can happen.”
Dan echos the very thing I have preached–admittedly ad nauseuam–for many years; that is, the very nature of young people is that they often have little sense of their own mortality. They are generally carefree, vibrant, and free–including free from fear. Through no fault of their own, they lack the sense that they can indeed be–and often are–quite vulnerable. Vulnerable to bad things happening at the hands of BGs.
And BGs–especially and particularly serial BGs–are attracted to a university community. Why? Because it is what is referred to as a “target rich” environment: students living (for the most part) carefree with little regard for and/or knowledge of their own, personal safety and security. They leave their doors unlocked, their windows open, and think nothing of walking alone at night, under full control of their faculties or not. This is sadly the rule rather than the exception.
Note: This should in no way to be construed as an indictment of students or young people for this seemingly carefree attitude. Part of the joyfulness of youth is this very nature. This is instead an objective observation of an attitude that is endemic to almost any youthful population in this country.
The sad reality: students–especially students in any college/university environment, and especially with this particular BG still at large–must be vigilant. It is incumbent upon them to maintain full awareness of their surroundings. They must be made aware of the fragility of their own, pesonal security, and be an active participant in doing whatever possible or necessary to maintain that security.
For a young person there is a fine line between walking in fear, afraid that your every step may bring you one step closer to a face-to-face encounter with this (or any other) BG…and allowing yourself to experience the joys and freedom of being a young adult. As adults, we must help young people learn to strike that all-important balance by giving them the tools necessary to do so.
To my mind, it comes down to one word: awareness. Awareness of your surroundings. Awareness of your vulnerabilities. Awareness of the measures you can take to ensure your personal safety. Awareness that not everyone is nice. Awareness that BGs are drawn to university communities like bees to honey. Awareness that a BG will capitalize on your sense of invulnerability. Awareness of what you can do to minimize the chances that a BG will perceive you as his next, easiest target.
Awareness, ladies (and gentlemen). This is one of the greatest keys to your personal security.
Use it, and use it well.
It’s really sad to read Dan Harrington’s ‘apology’ for wanting only some sense of sanity in the life of his family and protection for all. The grieving father of a dead child being further tormented by unthinking, insensitive, uncaring, self-centered, mean-spirited people is unbelievable and despicable. Shame on them!!!
Are not “threats” illegal and prosecutable? It makes one wonder of what else are people like this capable? Unbelievable!
I want to thank Blink’s forum for maintaining support, caring and dignity toward the Harringtons throughout this extremely perplexing case.
They most definitely are, among other actions. There are some really sick people out there.
B
Dear Dan and Gil Harrington:
We know what you’ve lost. How precious she was. We have come to know and love you through this tragedy. Morgan is on my mind most of the day. I cry with you. I do not understand evil either. I am hoping that maybe together we can make a difference. We are here, and here we will remain with you, until we can have justice for your beautiful daughter Morgan.
Dr Harrington:
You do whatever you have to do, and please do NOT pressure yourself now, when you need that break, to figure a way of re-opening that forum. The vast majority of people on FM and here at BOC (where those folks are welcome!) are kind-hearted and support you unconditionally, and would never feel anger that you had to make an abrupt decision. The few people who would are the very bitter souls who caused the closing to happen, and you owe them nothing.
How to preserve and protect your kind soul in the face of the skin-thickening, heart-hardening experiences your family is having? I wish we knew. I think we all believe getting this guy off the streets would be a first step, and that is why most of us are here.
As for you, I just hope you’ll take time and relieve yourself of ownership and pressure.
acho
Fish — none of the suspended players were cut loose. None had their scholarships taken away from them or were expelled from school or even asked to leave. They were simply not allowed to play basketball anymore because they were not keeping up their end of the academic deal. The university said in a press release that the suspensions had nothing to do with morgan. Not sure what else they could say that would not insert themselves into VSP’s investigation or unfairly impact the players.
And liam, as for your suggestion that some athletic shield or privilege is protecting these players (and the absurd statement that a similar privilege somehow enabled cho, the virginia tech non-athlete who murdered 30 plus of his classmates a few years ago), name one witness other than the basketball players who has been identified by LE. Except for norma parsons who insisted on identifying herself repeatedly and who does not appear to be an actual witness, you can’t. Rather than some athletic shield protecting these players from examination, it appears that their “fame” has resulted int hem being the only ones that have been identified to the public in the entire investigation. And yet people keep on posting the same mistruths over and over again about them — and still manage to wonder why they don’t come forward even more.
Hi -
Does anybody have the link to the photos of Copley Bridge. Thanks
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, there were NO death threats made to anyone affiliated with the fm forum. I believe that imaginations have run wild. We all miss you all very much…but Amanda, Kenny, Dan and I are all taking a much needed rest as a result of this break. We are looking forward to Justice For Morgan and safety for our girls out there! Peace
Thanks for clearing that up, I thought that was bizarre.
B
There is no longer a link to the FM forum, thus, Blink may choose not to post this since this is ‘secondhand’ info.
Kenny explained on FM that the “threats” were relative to character assassination and which were targeted at jeopardizing his job (paraphrasing).
No other type of threat was noted by Kenny.
My previous question of potential litigation (prosecution?) was in reference to this.
@ Mom3.0
No, I didn’t mean to criticize you in any way!! My rant was just aimed at the system, and you happened to have been someone who mentioned it, this is why I linked to your post! Apologies for that I should have made this clear!!
At some point I just had to explode, having filled out quite a number of these racial profiling forms in my life… any time I saw one I was actually tempted to select “other” as a race and when prompted specify it as “none of your business”, or alternatively start a very learned discussion about migration in prehistoric Eurasia…
Apologies also for the delay – limited internet access, and when I was online there usually happened to be a system upgrade.
@ Dr Harrington
Moderating a forum is tough for an outside person (there are so many nasty people around who don’t have anything else to do but to harass others, hiding behind a mask of anonymity on the internet). It is heroic for someone who is actually involved in the case.
To all those who don’t have anything else to do but to troll on a website dedicated to a murdered girl – get a life. Learn to play the guitar, do voluntary work, take your grandparents out to a nice cafe. Read a book or get a windowbox and plant some flowers.
Bravo
B
To Observer (RE: Post – July 18, 2010 at 9:55 am)
I want to thank you for your post of caution to all of our young women (and men) out there. I know my granddaughter, who is now attending her freshman year of college, thinks I ‘preach’ to her about the need to stay alert and safe. I petitioned her patience, once again, and asked her to read the exert from Observer’s post, which I emailed to her. I think it was well stated, with just enough caution of safety, while embracing their wonderful youthful spirit and joy during these special college years.
Thank you, Observer!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn
This is one of the cases of “ghost DNA” that made the headlines in Europe over the past years. The first two murders were very similar, and it made sense that the DNA profile found on the scene was from a female. They are, as far as I know, still unsolved. The current working hypothesis is that they were committed by two people posing as door to door vendors, one of them being a woman (or a little girl), to gain trust. Both victims were also robbed.
After that the whole affair grew more and more bizarre, police denied it could be down to a contamination of lab equipment (which was suggested by quite a number of geneticists). They acknowledged the possibility that the person they are looking for could appear male (which is in fact true, two X chromosomes do not necessarily equal female, there are many very common variants – the person could present either as intersexed, male or female, mosaic or not; in any given small town there are on average two people with such a variant) but never really did anything about it. They kept looking for this one woman, even though it would have been the first female assassin in the history of the country. By the way, most of the cases are still unsolved.
Obviously, I have no idea whatsoever about the amount or type of sample that was used for DNA testing. If there were only minute traces to be found in either case, a “Heilbronn Scenario” should at least be considered. It does happen, and as the above case shows, lab equipment is handled by a lot of people before it actually makes it to the crime scene.
You are more than welcome, counselor4u. If my words of cautious admonition can help to persuade even one young person of the need to be attendant to and cognizant of their personal security, then I’ll consider years of work not for naught.
My fervent wish is that, as adults and parents, we can embrace the joy we witness in children and, at the same time, share wisdom borne of experience that might allow these young people to ripen safely into adulthood.
American culture can sometimes be baffling to an outsider but i think you can learn a lot from peoples reactions, as well as their actions.
I tend to spout some rubbish from time to time, dont take much notice, i come from a small city where this type of crime never happens, thankfully, i have no knowledge of how these things play out. If i take up valuable screen space then for that i will apoligise, i thought regular folk could give an opinion without looking silly or maybe it`s just me! I`ll refrain from commenting anymore because i cant be objective or open-minded enough for it, im a fish out of water!. Unfortunately there is no happy ending.
Will be still here reading and keeping up to date though, this site, its cause and its contributors are a credit to the American people.
Catch this monster….
Hi Liam, are you Irish by any chance? My mother’s family were Brennans and my father was Scots – Brodies no less. I think they hung out with some guy named MacBeth….way back…it did not end well. And don’t even mention Campbells….I love Campbell soups – but not Papa – we had to hide the cans – it was something that happened back in the 12th century. It’s said that elephants never forget…. nor do Scots.
Another transplant from FM, here. Thanks so much for welcoming us, Blink! I hope you don’t mind if I just get some messages out real quickly.
Observer-I echo Counselor4you’s thoughts. I also emailed your words of caution to my daughter who seems to be favoring choosing a city university over a rural one that is closer to home.
Gil- I have thought of you a million times this week as we begin the process of choosing schools, then I read your 7/16 blog and was struck that your sentiments were along the same lines as mine, though from the worst possible perspective. Gil- Your strength is an inspiration.
Dan- I respect and was not surprised at all at your decision in light of what had been going on (thankfully, I did not read the hurtful words). Know that the ones who really care are still with you in thought and spirit.
To the ‘New Nine’ [ohmigosh, I just forgot who it was that started that thread before FM was closed] I did remember to start my novena last night and will continue for the next 8 nights.
Liam: You were unduly slammed for a reasonable idea… I believe you may have hit a nerve in our friend Redly. All ideas are welcome as long as respect is upheld.
Redly: Might sound lame to you, but I still wonder why the BBall players did not come forth and clear their names? Or even contact the Harringtons to let them know they are concerned? I don’t necessarily agree with the “academic shield of protection” theory, but I do find it unsettling that there has been no (public) statement from them. It seems just a little odd that they kinda slid out of the equation, albeit ligit. Would have been nice to hear from them.
As always, I remain hopeful that there is some private information being shared with LE that would explain the mystery.
Liam, don’t worry. People feel protective of the atheletes, that is a known. Kharma took care of OJ. Stick around, all opinions are needed to bring about change.
Blink— I will not say for one minute that what you have done here on this website- has been done in vain. You and your followers have done an excellent job of trying to find this piece of crap of a person. I know with everything in me that Dan and GIL and Alex are hurt beyond words. They are grabbing at straws, just as any of us would do if it were our daughter. Having said that– when do you get to a point where you simply let this young lady REST IN PEACE ?? When do you stop putting her name all over the internet ?? Not just you Blink– all websites ? When the killer or killers are caught ??? Where is the respect for Morgan ??? We want her name out here — we want this for Morgan and that for Morgan– maybe Morgan wants to simply rest in peace. Let the cops and investigators do their job. One day this person or these people will be caught. I really believe that. Look at how many people that have been on the find Morgan site that have tried sooooooooo much to help here and have been hurt or threatened !!! From what we have been told by her family– Morgan was not the kind of person that would want all of this scrolled over the internet. Lets just let her rest. The people will be caught– they will pay— right now I think poor Morgan is paying !!!
I have never met Morgan, but from what I have learned from her parents she was an original, beautiful soul.
She deserves justice, and the good people of the community deserve to be safe.
Our work here, without question, has assisted LE in this case, and many other cases and it will continue in Morgan’s case until there is resolution, and Morgan’s family can begin to heal.
This lovely young woman was tossed in a hayfield and left to rot, maybe you can let that go, I cannot.
B
Observer:
What a wonderful post. As a parent and grandparent, I have sat and held a discussion similar to what you posted with all of them, especially the girls.
My oldest daughter was one of those young women who could not believe that there were people out there that had bad behavior by choice. It took her a long time to come to understand that this created a danger to herself and her friends. Fortunately, she had two older brothers that were close enough in age to go do some checking about the type of people she hung out with and take action when appropriate.
We all love our children and want them to be successful young people by experiencing the joy of living. They often do not get the connection that our world has become a dangerous place and that they should be cautious about their surroundings and their behavior.
Thanks for expressing your concens so elequently.
Boy I wish they would arrest somebody already. I don’t know how much longer the Harrington’s or anyone else for that matter can take it.
I have no idea who this perp is. I also do not understand what they are doing with the information they have. I have periodically looked at the VSP website, they dont have this sketch there asking for an ID. Why not? What don’t I understand about that?
I also agree there is nothing wrong with having a questioning attitude regarding persons that peak our interest. What else do we have? I mean it is either someone random in that area that night who came upon poor Morgan, or someone who was there with UVA or JPJ business that night. The random folks are the hard ones to come up with.
We all just need some new leads. But if VSP knows who this guy is as Blink suspects, is he missing? Why hasn’t he been arrested for the 2005 assault?
Dr. Harrington, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Take this time to try and regroup with your family. Only you all know what feels right for you at this time. We all remain in support of you, Gil and Alex throughout the process and whatever may come in the future.
Ok BOCer’s, what should we look at next?
Liam please continue to post. I agree with American culture can sometimes be baffling to the outsider.
I have lived in the USA for over half my life and still get stumped at times.
I often find your observations and ideas refreshing and full of common sense and will miss your ideas and observations…so don’t just read please offer your thoughts and opinions.
Afterall you have been here with us for a very long time now, and you are a respected BOC family member in my opinion.
We all need to keep talking, especially now when so much water has gone under the bridge and Morgans’ murderer is still on the loose, and so little information about her disappearance and murder has ever come to light. It is disheartening, defeating, and devastating to so many of us who have committed to sticking around until there is justice for Morgan. I cannot even imagine how much more heartbreaking and soul destroying it is daily for Morgans’ family.
So the core of us who have been here from the beginning, need to stand together and help hold each other up and in turn the Harringtons’ and on particularly long, brutal and terribly sad days, our very own dear Blink. You are needed Liam. All of us here are together, attempting to fight for something that is right, and to give some hope and completion to the stand up family of a shiny unforgettable girl named Morgan who could have been our sister, daughter, friend.
My grandmother was irish, a Cavanagh in New Zealand originally from County Clare. Pop Lindsay was Scottish. Some of us somewhere were a border pirates, will have to ask my old mum tonight when I talk to her on the phone. She will be 93 in August and is still as sharp as a tack.
I look forward to our nightly chats, and feel lucky that she is still alive, even though we are so far apart geographically. it makes me so sad and so b…y mad that Gil and Morgan have been torn apart in this life and I pray there is an afterlife where they can be together again.
I do feel Morgan very strongly as a presence on my life and do my best to honor her , her life and her family. Love to all my friends and any new comers here at BOC.
Peace and blessings to one and all.
Hummingbird.
Welcome to all the Find Morgan people – glad to have you join us!!!
Re: The basketball players–we will eventually hear from them when they’re called to testify at trial.
Re: Whether to keep posting or not. There have been many, many times I have said to myself, that’s it. I’m done. But then I think about the times Dr. Harrington has reached out here and I think, what if it was my daughter? I would want people to keep it going — keep her name out there until justice is done. The Harringtons are trying to keep someone else from being the next victim — and I think Morgan would agree with that.
Hi Debbie,
You said “one day this person or these people will be caught.”
I cannot speak for Blink, much as I suspect she shares my view.
It is my strong opinion that the perp(s) will be caught indeed. The issue for me is this: I do not want another person harmed before it happens. I think a lot of people and property have been harmed by the perp(s), and I view it as my duty as a citizen to share what information I know, in hopes it aids law enforcement. I support them, but I think they need the public’s help; they have said as much.
For what it’s worth, it is also my strong belief that Morgan Harrington would desire this tenacity to protect her friends and the rights of all young women to attend events without harm. I do not believe she could, or would want to, “rest in peace” until the people who did this to her are removed from society.
I respect your opinion and know it feels odd and perhaps disrespectful to Morgan’s memory, but I have given it much thought, and I am here, with undying respect and support for this family, for the duration.
Perhaps more important, though, I respect the rights of all citizens to walk a community’s streets–sober, drunk, happy, sad, angry, in a burqa, half dressed, or naked, for that matter–with the expectation that no one will kill them; I do not want to wait for it to happen again.
To Liam: I hope you will stick around. I like your perspective.
I do echo your sentiments strongly, acho-
Although you stated it much more eloquently than I could have.
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debbie, i disagree.
The Harringtons find comfort in the support of the community.
We are concerned citizens, it is our community. Morgan was one of us.
This type of discussion is new and is a valuable way to bring about change. Morgan would be comforted in knowing we are here for her grieving parents and her brother. I would want this kind of discussion if something similar happened to one of my children. Wouldn’t you?
I was so sad that Find Morgan was shut down, but understand 100% why the Harringtons did it. Those people making threats are monsters.
Good morning all. I am still here and will continue to be. Best wishes and continued prayers to the Harringtons. Time to move forward and stay focased. We all just need to continue and follow Blink’s rules and we will see this to the end. Notebook out. Ode…
Did someone post that they felt the BG might have military training (or have I confused it with another case) maybe he’s not in country now? I’m sure he could be tracked down. Maybe that’s what is going on. MP’s may be on their way right now. We likely won’t know a thing til he’s in country and and in custody.
A very warm welcome to all who have come over from the findmorgan.com forum. What a shame what happened. We are all here to help support the Harringtons and find justice for Morgan, we have one mission, one goal, we should be united, working together, not fighting amongst ourselves and/or giving the Harrington’s something else to worry about or deal with. I just don’t understand some people.
I am disheartened by the decreasing number of posts. I fear that the interest is fading away and we cannot let that happen!! We must stay focused and determined and see this through – for Morgan, for the Harringtons, and for other women and their families who may become future victims of this monster if he is not caught and stopped.
It is time for us to re-group, re-focus, and carry on with what we all are committed to do – supporting the Harringtons and finding Morgan’s killer(s). The killer didn’t quit, he didn’t stop, until he ended precious Morgan’s life, neither will we stop until we end HIS killing and freedom. Morgan is now in heaven, it is time for him (or them) to be in jail!
Debbie, if you do not agree with our cause, that’s fine, that’s your right, don’t come here then. We are following our hearts, which bleed with sorrow over what has happened here. No one should ever be told they are wrong for doing what they believe in their heart and soul is right and where the heart leads them to.
Liam, please do not stop posting.
Can we all stop fighting with each other and unite as one in the fight against this monster, please?
I completely understand why Dr. Harrington would place the Forum on hiatus. The Hook article and the disgusting comments on there should have been closed FAR sooner than it was. The personal slanders were really ridiculous and out of control. ALL the comments should be removed immediately, but they still remain, why is that? Interesting to say the least…
AnotherB- Thank you for letting me know it wasn’t about me.
Liam- Its alright-Stay.
Debbie, Hello, I agree with much of what you said. Morgan’s killers will be caught. Morgan would not want her family, her friends,or those trying to help her and her parents thrown in the mud and hurt.
Dr. Harrington, made the decision to take down FM. He wrote:
“I agree that when I reopen the forum, some members may not return, while a few will not be allowed back on. Gil and I are deeply grateful for all that people have done to help solve this case and give us support. My abrupt closing was needed for my own mental health.”
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Debbie,you wrote:
“when do you get to a point where you simply let this young lady REST IN PEACE ?? When do you stop putting her name all over the internet ?? Not just you Blink– all websites ? When the killer or killers are caught ??? Where is the respect for Morgan ??? We want her name out here — we want this for Morgan and that for Morgan– maybe Morgan wants to simply rest in peace. Let the cops and investigators do their job.”
I am sorry Debbie, but it is not because of FM or BOC or any other news article that printed Morgan”s name that Morgan can’t rest in peace. If Morgan can’t rest in peace, it is because she was abducted and killed, then thrown in a desolate hayfield to rot.
Where was the respect for Morgan in any of that Debbie? How would all conversation about Morgan, all articles being written, and all prayers for the Harringtons stopping, help in giving Morgan respect or aid in the search for her killers?
I said it before and I’ll say it again, Dr. Harrington came here to BOC and asked why noone was posting as much- He lamented his daughter’s death and begged us all not to forget and please, help him find the person/s who did this.
We have tried. Many of us will continue to try as long as we can, or at least until Dr. Harrington and his family ask us to stop.
We are not having fun Debbie- We are not doing this to hurt The Harrington’s, or stop LE from doing their job. We certainly aren’t doing this to prevent Morgan from resting in peace, or to subject ourselves and our online names/reputations to constant ramblings from mean, hateful internet trolls.(not you)
The BG’s would like nothing more than for us to quietly let life return to normal in Charlottesville. Cant you hear ‘em saying- Yeah when are you all gonna give it a rest?
I think the people who harmed Morgan Harrington and other women, would like nothing more than for everyone to stop talking about Morgan and these other cases. I think these people are hoping for the day when they can cross Copley bridge without seeing Morgan’s rocks. I think they are holding out for the day when they can open their newspapers and turn on their computers and be free from seeing Morgan’s name in print.
I want Morgan Harrington to rest in peace Debbie. I want her killers caught. I want her friends to be safe and free from all of this. I want her family to find peace. I want others in Virginia to be safe. That is what I want.
There will come a time when each of us will need to move on and let the investigation play out, many of us have already done that. But I just wanted to let you know that I think your questioning when will Blink stop printing Morgan’s name, and when are we all gonna let Morgan rest in peace was rather callous, and I don’t think that was your intent at all.
I know you are trying to get across that maybe it is time to let it be- maybe it is, I don’t know.
I wrote earlier that with FM closing we are all at a crossroads- some will choose to continue, others will choose to let it be- I think we must all make this decision ourselves. But we must be free to make it with out judgment.
We all want this person stopped and we all care.
To Blink and all Avid Posters and Especially, the Harrington Family,
We will ALL be here until there is justice for Morgan! There may be many like me who are wholeheartedly with all of you, but who have nothing but our best wishes and encouragement to offer.
If not for the tenacity of the people of this site and FM, this case may have already been dropped. With the continuing interest of you all, perhaps soon there will be justice!
NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP!
Mom3.0 – Once again, right to the heart of the matter. Thank you for your post.
Liam – Listen to Mom3 please? Stay.
Dr. Harrington, it’s not thin skinned to feel that your energy is drained by mean, petty and even devastating attacks. Who could ever imagine that people would use your discussion site to attempt to degrade you, your family, and those who moderate a discussion? Those anonymous attacks are made by cowards. The world is full of people walking around with unresolved grief and some of them are these very cowards.
We marvel at your abilities to keep going in the face of your devastating loss. We also realize that there is a need to take time out to reclaim your strength as you walk the road of grief yourselves. It’s said that we each work through grief in our own way and that’s true. Even the same grief “maze” may present a new and different set of challenges on any given day.
Please take your time and recoup your energy.
My husband and I can’t express how much we admire all of you, Dan, Gil, and Alex. It could never be a disappointment to any of us when you need a break. Truly.
Oh crap, I have added to the stress of things. I want to make it very clear when I hear that someone has made a threat against your job and then against you, is intent for bodily harm.
Where I got that from was one of the FM mods posts where it is stated that threats were made against his job and now themselves, I can’t take that any other way. The latter does mean bodily harm when its said like that.
I am so sorry for making anything worse for anyone that is not my intentions.
So correction, Threats were made against one, details of this threat are not known to me. I also know who it was know or supposedly.
Again I am so sorry if anyone stressed over it, I deeply apologize to them!
Back to the hidey hole.