Kyron Horman Case: Terri Horman Sexts Sent To Kaine Horman’s Phone…. WHAT?
HOLD THE PHONE
In what can only be considered the latest bombshell development in the case of missing Portland boy, 7 year old Kyron Horman, blinkoncrime.com has discovered that the recent sexually graphic text messages or sexts, allegedly exchanged between Terri Horman and mutual friend Michael Cook, may have been altered. Definitely, alter-able.
Blinkoncrime.com has confirmed that the phone number which Kaine hand-wrote on the originally sealed emergency restraining order dated June 28, 2010, matches the cell phone number he also alleges, through his attorney Laura Rackner, was used by Michael Cook to RECEIVE the “sext” messages in question.
What’s the issue?
Kaine Horman owns the phone and the account it is registered to, and unless the allegation is that Terri Horman, using her own phone as purported by Kaine, is herself posing as Michael Cook and sexting herself, which would seem like a physical impossibility given some of her *glamour shots*, we have a serious problem.
In Kaine’s own handwriting on the June 28th Restraining Order, he pens that is an alternative number for Terri Horman.
In the contempt order filed by Kaine Horman on July 12, Ms. Rackner states that she has personally seen the “work phone” records of Michael Cook, and goes on to say “a search” of his cell phone reflected that he took snapshots on June 28th of the earlier served restraining order, which had been sealed, and was the basis for the contempt motion in the first place. He took pictures of sealed documents on the phone belonging to the other person bound by the same order prohibiting Terri Horman from showing anyone. As there are no texts on the work number until July, it is the only logical conclusion.
I am going to go out on a limb here and assume that at some point it occurred to someone that using good faith information in your affidavit, which when not alerting the court that your client has complete ownership and access to the data on the phone account in question, can look like bad faith in a nano-second, thus the withdrawal.
However, not everyone is on the same the playbill because the 21 pages of texts, which were released in PDF format, and do not include any numbers for Terri Horman herself, were supplied in an electronically redacted format; which again indicates this was not an original file.
It was not until the unredacted pdf’s became available October 26th and we converted them to HTML files could we see that based on the file format, it is clear these records came from the account owners and were not subpoenaed from the carrier. Original files, also provided to the respondent, are the requirement of the court. We all know texts can be sent from our phone online accounts, and from our phones directly; I think I even have voice command to text widget thingie.
Anyone that had access to the account, which is registered to Kaine Horman, could clone, spoof, or manipulate those messages, period. That aside, let’s consider the possibility that Terri Horman HAD implicated herself even slightly in any messages on phones that may be utilized to illicit information by a woman who demonstrated her complete knowledge that she understood what expectation of privacy parameters she was under the impression she was operating under, and engaging in, with the “textee”.
Terri Horman was represented by counsel, it would not be difficult for Stephen Houze allege that Kaine Horman was in constant contact with MCSO, had already been provided case sensitive information by them, and as such, was acting as an agent in soliciting the text messages. You see where I am going with this?
The fruit of that poisonous tree is more like the fruit of the poisonous orchard.
The implications of this scenario are abysmal. While I completely understand the desperation of a Father wanting to locate his child, since I have yet to really see anywhere Cook attempts to engage Terrri Horman about Kyron’s whereabouts at any time; I do not get the point of the exercise.
Ms. Rackner is a first rate “Super Lawyer”, but she is not above the burden of her duty to insure that what is being provided to her as a “good faith basis” is just that.
Does this information make Terri Horman any less vulgarly inappropriate at best? Hell to the No.
While it is true on the surface because of this information one will be hard pressed to prove it was definitely Terri Horman who sent the electronic ipecac none of us will soon forget, her attorneys have not denied it was her, nor do I expect them to, at least not until they read this.
What it does, yet again, is potentially compromise the criminal case involving the disappearance of Desiree Young and Kaine Horman’s son Kyron.
This afternoon, blinkoncrime.com contributing editor and Legal Analyst, Lea Conner weighed in:
Kaine Horman claims that law enforcement provided the texts records to him, but that does not mean that the records came from the cell phone provider, nor does it mean that the conversations involve Michael Cook or Terri Horman.
In fact, there are indications that the text message transcripts filled by Mr. Horman are not as they appear. At least one of the phones purported to belong to “Michael Cook” is registered to Kaine Horman.
Just as important, none of these records indicate any information about the texts Mr. Horman alleges were sent by his wife. Mr. Horman does not list any cell phone number, not one message ID, not one cell record that indicates the identity of other party to the conversation let alone indicating Ms. Horman as the other party to the text message “conversations.” In the case of the phone with the “503″ prefix (503-XXX-XX76), Mr. Horman is the registered owner of the phone that was purportedly sending texts as “Michael Cook.”
More bizarre, Mr. Horman listed this number as belonging to Terri Horman in his application for a temporary restraining order. Was this a slip on the part of Mr. Horman? Mr. Horman claimed in a motion for remedial contempt that Ms. Horman showed a copy of the restraining order to Mr. Cook and allowed him to photograph the document.
Given that the phone Mr. Horman is the registered owner of the phone he purports was used by “Michael Cook,” it begs the question as to whether Ms. Horman ever allowed Mr. Cook access to the sealed restraining order. As a party to the action, Mr. Horman had the very same sealed documents. Mr. Horman, through Counsel Laura Rackner, claimed to have reviewed Mr. Cook’s “work cell phone records.”
It is not clear if the documents Ms. Rackner referenced as Mr. Cook’s “work” cell records are, in fact, for the phone registered to Mr. Horman. If the sealed documents referenced in Mr. Horman’s contempt motion were photographed with the phone registered to Mr Horman — the same phone that Mr. Horman claims was used by Mr. Cook — it might help explain why Mr. Horman withdrew his contempt motion.
Had he gone forward with the motion, he might have had to explain how it was the documents allegedly photographed by Mr. Cook were the same documents that he had in his possession, and that the phone used to photograph sealed court documents was registered to him, not Mr. Cook.
The records for the phone with a “971″ prefix (971-XXX-XX63) are unlisted. This phone also purported to send texts as “Michael Cook.” Due to the unavailability of any registration for this phone, it is impossible to tell to whom the phone belongs, or who was actually sending texts from this phone. The unredacted copy of the cell phone records filed on October 25, 2010, only identifies one caller on each set of cell phone records. This means that the records came from the phone, not the cell provider. Text records on pages 1 through 12 of Exhibit 1 are from (503) XXX-XX76 (“Cell Phone A”). These pages allegedly represent text messages sent between 10:17 pm on June 30, 2010 through 7:19 pm on July 1, 2010.
In separate court documents, “Michael Cook” is identified as the sender of text messages and the recipient of text messages is identified as “Terri Horman.” Cell Phone A is a Cingular/AT&T cell phone registered to Kaine Horman. It is also a phone number listed by Mr. Horman in his restraining order application as a phone number for Ms. Horman.
Pages 1 through 12 of Exhibit 1 does not list any phone number for the portion of the conversation attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (503) XXX-XX76. Text records on pages 13 through 17 of Exhibit 1 are from (971) XXX-XX63 (“Cell Phone B”).
These pages allegedly represent text messages sent between 6:49 pm on July 4, 2010 through 8:30 am on July 6, 2010. The bottom of page 17 has a partial text message sent on July 6, 2010, which purports to be sent after 8:30 am. Cell Phone B is an unlisted cell phone with AT&T (formerly Cingular).
In separate court documents, “Michael Cook” is identified as the sender of text messages and the recipient of text messages is identified as “Terri Horman.” Pages 13 through 17 of Exhibit 1 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (971) XXX-XX63. All texts in Exhibit 2 are from Cell phone A, and allegedly represent text messages sent between 2:29 pm on July 3, 2010 through 9:40 am on July 4, 2010.
Exhibit 2 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (503) XXX-XX76. All texts in Exhibit 3 are from Cell phone B, and allegedly represent text messages sent between 8:44 pm on July 6, 2010 through 8:41 am am on July 7, 2010. The top of page 1 of this exhibit has part of an undated message from 8:41 am., possibly on July 6, 2010, that states “I understand. I’m upset about kitty. I didn’t do [sic]”
Exhibit 3 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (971) XXX-XX63. Surely investigators working on this case must know that the cell records filed by Mr. Horman as coming from Michael Cook’s phone were not from Mr. Cook’s phone, but from a phone registered in his own name.
Someone in law enforcement must have noticed that the number Mr. Horman claims belong to Michael Cook is also the number he claimed belonged to his wife in his TRO application. Mr. Horman signed his application for temporary restraining order on Monday June 28, 2010, prior to its filing at 4:39 pm that afternoon.
This was two days after the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office conducted its failed sting operation at the Horman residence on Saturday June 26, 2010. MCSO was unable to confirm the murder-for-hire plot that had been alleged by the landscaper. As a result, MCSO was not able to arrest Ms. Horman.
As such, why did law enforcement then give the green light to Mr. Horman to obtain a restraining order on the basis that his wife had hired to hire a hit man? Or did Mr. Horman act unilaterally without the endorsement of law enforcement? Surely Mr. Horman must have known that law enforcement could not verify the landscaper’s story, yet he went ahead and filed a restraining order based on the very allegations that law enforcement could not verify. So why did he sign his name to allegations that he knew were not true?
The text messages don’t check out. The murder for hire allegations don’t check out. The only common thread here is a man whose son disappeared on June 4, 2010. As tragic and anguishing as Mr. Horman’s circumstances may be, that does not excuse misrepresenting information to the court.
Mr. Horman cannot claim that the phone registered in his name is Michael Cook’s work cell phone, nor can he claim that the phone allegedly used by Michael Cook was used by Ms. Horman. When Sheriff Dan Staton talked about knowing things that might surprise people, could he have been talking about cell phone records? Maybe Stephen Houze and Peter Bunch will force the sheriff to reveal its source for the records.
Although the answer would not bring Kyron home, it might at least alleviate some of the blame heaped on Ms. Horman, as unpopular as that may be.
Lea Conner, contributing editor, blinkoncrime.com
Madeline Tanner, copy and contributing editor, blinkoncrime.com
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Interesting photos of Skyline School inside and out posted on the web site below June 27th. There is a description of each photo. If you get a chance view them all. Wonder if LE has these. In particular look at the one with this description.
“From the soccer field
This is critical. This is taken from the soccer field area looking toward Skyline Blvd. The fence ends, and there is a narrow access road that leads to the street. There is NO FENCE to prevent students from exiting the soccer field down to the road, and the slope and tall grass makes it nearly impossible to view a child walking down here from the school”
http://forums.radionewz.net/index.php?topic=151.0
Turning our attention to the next arena in this three ring circus … the divorce hearing.
The significance I see in Kaine’s inconsistencies in his story of June 4th and after MFH is his effort to build a case against TH in the divorce. As the plaintiff, his attorney will set the adversarial tone and stage for their case. Remember, Kaine is the one who introduced elements of the criminal investigation as cause for an RO and divorce. And Terri will have to defend those accusations in a divorce hearing.
Now, what if, in the realm of possibilities … Kaine had already been preparing for divorce. Suppose he found out last December about the involvement between his wife and the landscaper … and the back and forth arguing went on for, say 5 months or so. During this time, is it possible Kaine was spying on his wife’s activities electronically to gather evidence of her misconduct to be used in not just getting a divorce, but sole custody as well?
Maybe TH’s sexting was with RS only … and someone else made it more public. Maybe someone with masterful IT skills opened the portal for the “vampire” to see into the Horman household electronically.
Is it possible … that Kaine was the one who inadvertently let the vampire in?
I just ran this by mt son who has a IT degree- He said its relatively easy to use a proxy IP adress. It’s founbd in the privacy settings and a hacker can use another computer’s IP address as a proxy so that their own is undetected but it can be found out. He went on to say that a better hacker will use several computers, going from one to the other to the other in a series and these computers can be in another country, making it more time consuming to find them out. But he said its relatively easy to do for someone who’s familiar with computers. Gee TH and KH knew people who worked at Intel and were in the computer realm. Terri was an avid game player and VERY familiar with computer use her husband probably taught her what she didn’t know. Not saying it was TH but they were entrenched in that world of users maybe hackers etc… My son also commented and lhao when I told him about the serial,super hacker, pedophile theory. He said noooo way. He said why don’t you just look at the facts! He said they just have to find that poor little boy. I agree
I really can’t pull together a post that is worthy of space here. Most of you are extremely well-written and eloquent, and that is certainly one of the reasons why this is such a highly-thought-of website. THANK YOU BLINK POSTERS for the intelligent way this dicussion is taking place. THANK YOU BLINK for setting the bar and holding us to such high standards.
My only 2 cents is that I am now thinking that SZ (the person Kyron left the school with) is indeed a MINOR, and a sibling of one of Ky’s friends/classmates at the school. When this case was hours old, I saw that explanation posed online somehwere, and relied on it at first since it was speculated that it would be revealed soon. But then I discarded this theory as time went on and no resolution. Now I’m going back to that thought. I have not been able to cull together the scenario once outside the school.
I’m reminded of the 2007 Haines family murder in PA. The killer was a high school friend of the murdered son, but if not for the perp’s father doing the unimaginable and turning his son in, it could have gone unsolved.
Re the multiple comments about Kaine putting the divorce information in front of the public and that being inappropriate –
are we assuming the copies of divorce documents are coming from Kaine?
Or his attorney? Or from the media requesting copies and printing the contents?
Looking at all Kaine has actually said and subtracting the documents the media has made available as well as the media reports from attending the court hearings, I wouldn’t personally know the divorce details such as the intention to ask for medical records, etc. (I also haven’t seen any public statement from Kaine’s attorney spelling out the details of what she’s doing regarding the divorce.)
I think it would be unreasonable to expect Kaine or his attorney to filter what they are doing by whether the public will find out. We are all smart enough to understand what happens in the divorce process whether we like it or not. Who among us can stand up and say, “If I were in Kaine’s shoes, I wouldn’t handle my divorce this way.” Or Terri’s shoes, for that matter.
I think it’s up to the judge to decide if anything that is requested by either side should be denied or is inappropriate. I read all the court documents that are made public just to see if there are any hints or clues that catch my attention. Other than that, I am not surprised, annoyed, shocked, overloaded, or anything else – I just don’t care.
I do care about Kiara, and the other children among the family and friends of Kyron. I wish them love, safety, security, stability, self-confidence, some laughter, and a healthy way to deal with what they are going through now and in 2011. I wish all of us more patience with our loved ones, an answer to what happened to Kyron, and a meaningful way to use the lessons we are learning.
The ban on the press coverage for the abduction of Tori Stafford (8 years old, in Canada) was partially lifted. The girl was abducted leaving school by an 18 year old woman who then took the girl to her older boyfriend. Tori was murdered within hours and discarded in a trash bag in a remote roadside area. The 18 year old woman plead guilty and got life in prison earlier this month; her boyfriend is awaiting trial. Tori’s mom understood LE’s need to investigate the family fully, but is angry that LE focused so long on her, Tori’s stepfather and Tori’s brother for so long. Canadian LE went so far as to tell the community that this was an “isolated and targeted incident”, sound familiar? Meanwhile, there were 2 abductors on the prowl and 2 reports of attempted abduction in the same area. While there is a loose connection between Tori’s mom and the female abductor, it appears by the abductor’s guilty plea and statement that it had no bearing on the abduction; she grabbed the first little girl who was alone outside the school – using her dog as bait.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/05/22/police-search-tori459.html
There are some that compare Terri Horman to Dianne Downs or Susan Smith. Maybe that’s accurate. But, I think it’s important to keep an open mind and also consider the many cases where parents and step-parents are suspected and subjected to public rumors and innuendo that are used to make them appear guilty. Tori’s female abductor was caught on grainy surveillance tape. Tori’s mom was suspected by some in the community of being the woman on the tape because of vague similarities in appearance. If not for scrutiny of the surveillance tape leading to the female abductor (and Tori’s body subsequently being found), her mom might well still be the only unofficial (but very public) suspect. The family faced months of rumors, “leaks” of twisted family details, and public scorn until the female abductor was apprehended and confessed.
RIP Tori / Peace to Kyron and all who love him…
NelMel says:
December 30, 2010 at 3:42 pm
“I did not kill my stepson, by the way. The awfulness of me is all about my relationship to a husband who has his own character flaws. Our relationship sucked. We had reached the point where we hated each other. Perhaps in the poison of our relationship, we knew people in our social lives who hated us for other reasons entirely, and Kyron was a victim of that.”
I appreciate your post and the way you presented it. I only differ on one small point – I do not believe that Kaine hated Terri. Not saying he was a great or good husband, but although he is far from the perfect husband, he did say he thought their problems were getting better, that he found out Terri talked to others about him but not to him, that he wishes she were still by his side and helping to find Kyron.
I think not only has he tried to keep his life private, I suspect he knows things about Terri’s personality and behavior that he has hoped others would find out and say so that he wouldn’t have to. You can see him as gullible and clueless and distracted by his own “wanderings” (which no one has proven that I know of), or you could see him as protective and private not only for himself, but for Terri.
Why did they make an agreement not to have a child together? Terri later said he thought they made an agreement and he was upset about her getting pregnant. Did the family situation and her parenting and possibly her history of drinking cause him to think another child would not be a good idea? Did he keep secrets in order to not raise questions about Kyron’s care (thinking he could “oversee” it) and custody? Did he not have anything to go on but his own observations which he couldn’t prove? Did he see all of her issues as temporary because he blamed other things such as bodybuilding drugs, insomnia, postpartum depression (she claimed), drinking, and others that we may not know about? Did she manipulate him into feeling she needed him to take care of her?
This is not an attempt to defend Kaine or to make him look “good”. Obviously, if she manipulated him, he fell for it. If he knew things that were serious red flags about her personality and behavior, he ignored, excused, and hid them. If he knew her parenting was inconsistent and sometimes inappropriate, he still allowed her to continue and therefore, put her welfare over that of the kids. He does not end up “smelling like a rose”, but if he thinks she knows bad things about his behavior that she can prove and bring out in court, he does not seem to be holding back because of it now.
private-
does this work to send Blink a private message?
I got it, thanks, his whereabouts were confirmed, however.
B
What if Terri has a contract to tell her story for a book and subsequent interviews but it depends on her keeping quiet unless she is under oath – which at the time of an actual trial could still leave time to go to press and beat the competition with her personal story? If it came out in a divorce argument (from investigation or from her under oath), by the time there was a criminal trial or it was decided there wouldn’t be, some of it, at least, would be old news. Maybe her story would be even more valuable if there were a plea agreement and most details were not made public. Maybe waiting is not just about Houze or self-incrimination, maybe it’s also about getting the most money? Just wondering.
~~It’s possible, even likely, that this case is bigger than one child’s disappearance. LE can’t risk that other perps will flee or destroy evidence prior to them making arrests. Just surmising here, but that would explain a lot of questions we have about the investigation.
~~Regarding the pants, Kyron probably had more than one pair of the same pants and LE used the pair still at home for the photos. The staining does look funny, though. Having raised three kids I know fading is natural, but that does not look like natural fading to me.
~~Terri took the photos of Kyron at the science fair with the two unknown people in the background (one of which resembles Neilsen, the blog writer
). Were either of these two unknown people her accomplices and, if so, was she planning on setting them up along with the school thereby intentionally placing them in the background of her photo?
I do not believe Kyron is in Mexico. I don’t believe he ever left Oregon, though that may have been the original plan.
@ 27. Braden. Your idea of attendee movement re-creation & mapping (say from 8-12)–and memory processing–could be a useful part of the LE pasta work session, say on a Saturday.
Not sure why I have not heard of any mention of why TH emailed as to when science project could be picked up and why it was not.I am assuming that the project was taken too Skyline same morning as SF if so did K bring his on the bus, and wht was his mon KH not in attendance.As for abductors,seems risky for pedofile (random) to enter school with so much activity. As for planned abduction more probable and possible.There seem to be alot of access for someone with school knowledge. Just feels like some regular envolved. The layout of the school and how to move from one end to the other. Still bothers me the comment “he probably went to bathroom” which was supposedly made by teacher. If this was real then she would have been aware of him not coming back from bathroom. Also while passing storage areas the other day,I thought someone could stash a child and maybe plan to get back or another party could pick up .All those usually have cameras right? The V family really scares esp.both the dark side advertisements and the need for money. I guess I am like everyone else just so distraught over a child vanishing in broad daylight that I am grasping at everything.
To our posters with legal expertise, what would it take to classify this as a (criminal investigation), which was done 10 days after KyH disappearance?
NelMel says: December 30, 2010 at 3:42 pm
“I believe that TH’s silence, her withdrawal from attempting to see her child, etc., is based on the fact that a child custody dispute must not be used as a criminal trial concerning another child’s kidnapping. It risks turning the non-custodial spouse into a criminal in Family Court, on trial for a separate issue/crime, and unable to experience the legal rights of an accused criminal in a criminal trial.”
By “another child,” you mean Kyron, correct?
I agree that Ms. Horman’s concern is that the dissolution will be used to litigate a crime that has not been charged.
Ms. Horman may not have done a single thing, but the minute law enforcement allegedly claimed she was somehow involved in a murder for hire plot, she had no choice but to invoke her right to silence. At that point, any statement indicating she was done with the marriage, that she was frustrated with anything, would have been misconstrued as indicative of the truth of the landscaper’s allegations.
NelMel says: December 30, 2010 at 3:42 pm
“Think of it this way: TH has not been arrested. She has not been accused of a crime. Yet ‘discovery’ in a child custody case, even muffled by the claim that it is only to determine her status as a fit mother, would then be revealed to LE who might already just be dying to nail you for that (unrelated to child custody) crime. And…that information, via discovery in a non-criminal Family Court case, will really be just an ikc-factor history of your lousy marriage and your estranged spouse’s conviction that you are a POS. Based on what? On his information from LE, which was, as far as I can tell so far, never absolutely proven as true.”
I’m not entirely sure that Ms. Horman’s silence refusal to litigate the dissolution action is solely based on criminal concerns. Yes, there is a real potential that law enforcement would use anything she says to find an inconsistency and charge her with giving false information to a police officer, or worse.
An email Ms. Horman sent a couple of days after Kyron disappeared stated her displeasure with statements others were making about her online. She is not someone who likes negative attention. She has been described as quiet by some who know her. Despite having competed in women’s bodybuilding, it may be that Ms. Horman is not comfortable with public scrutiny, good or bad.
Since that time, the strategy by law enforcement, and later, Kaine Horman, has been to keep Terri Horman under increasing pressure through flyers, questionnaires, escalating allegations, and public scrutiny. Law enforcement knew Ms. Horman’s Achilles’ heel early on, and its strategy aimed directly at hitting her where it hurt the worst.
On June 17, 2010, Willamette Week published an article noting that law enforcement was focused on cell phone records to determine Ms. Horman’s whereabouts on June 4.
On June 26, 2010, Willamette Week published “Troubled Family” which detailed the sordid details of Kyron’ family and extended family. That article revealed some pretty harsh facts about Kaine Horman and his family, and it also note the prior restraining order that Desiree Young obtained against Mr. Horman due to fear that he would remove our children from their residence.” The statements about Ms. Horman in the article were much more positive by compare. Did someone tip off the reporter as to the issues with Kaine Horman, his brother, and Desiree Young’s prior restraining order? If so, who?
Two days later, on June 28, 2010, Kaine Horman filed for divorce and obtained a restraining order granting him emergency custody of Kiara.
Is it possible that law enforcement pitted both Mr. and Ms. Horman against each other, to see what shook out? Did one or both of Kiara’s parents — or their friends — use the media to retaliate against the other parent?
I just wanted to say thanks to Blink and the blinksters for allowing a safe place for those with an open mind, I have never experienced a site that was so respectful of others opinions and appreciate finding one. I have been reading here for ages and just now decided to start posting, so Happy New Year and wishing everyone a healthy and happy 2011, and wishing Kyron is found tomorrow and justice prevails no matter who is responsible.
Thanks again
Ty and welcome to BOC.
B
http://special.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/news/cityregion/24988081-41/horman-terri-kyron-june-landscaper.csp
After Kyron disappeared June 4, investigators with the county’s Major Crimes Team tracked down the landscaper in the course of trying to interview everyone who had contact with the boy’s family, the newspaper said. They also found it odd that Terri Horman had hired a landscaper without her husband’s knowledge.
The landscaper, contacted by The Oregonian last week, confirmed that he was hired to do lawn work at the Horman home off Northwest Sheltered Nook Road. He said he’s talked with detectives and could not comment further. His name is being withheld, The Oregonian said, to protect his identity as a cooperating witness in an ongoing criminal investigation.
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Why? Why does this one guy get the consideration of not being named? Every single other Tom, Dick and Sally has certainly been named, chewed up and spit out through various media sources. So just why does Mr. Landscaper get this protection?
It really doesn’t make sense to me-anybody have ideas?
Happy New Year Blink, Blink Family, BOC poster’s, Silver, Kleat and Red Ranger where ever you are! You guys are such a part of my everyday life! I wake to see what you’ve come up with and I check in before going to bed each night! Thank you all for being you and for being here! Blink, thank you for continuing to seek justice for those who don’t have a voice anymore. You are an inspiration!!!!
Happy 2011 to Blink and all the Blinkers!
Love, hope and prayers for Kyron Richard Horman and all that love him. Godspeed, sweet angel.
Screwed up on previous comment. Forgot to indicate I was responding to a post from Cbickel.
Nancy says:
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December 31, 2010 at 11:24 am
Cbickel says:
With all due respect Nancy, what you wrote proves what I was saying, the “divorce” has taken on a life of it’s own and has indeed put Kyron on a back burner. KH does need to “get off the stage” with the divorce in order to keep the story of his missing son in the spot light.
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Cbickel. While we both agree the media surrounding the divorce is a bit much, I believe we are viewing Kaine’s role in Kyron’s disappearance (as it relates to the divorce) just a bit differently.
You would like Kaine to get off the stage about the divorce in order to keep the focus on Kyron.
I do not see it as either/or. My view is that Kaine is having to battle on two extremely important and inter-related fronts: searching for Kyron and protecting Kiara. I do not believe these issues can be separated, as Kaine (through the divorce) is protecting Kiara from the same person he believes is responsible for Kyron’s disappearance. These are his children and he is fighting for both.
From my vantage point Kaine and Desiree have indeed been the ones attempting to keep Kyron’s name in the spotlight – and without much backup, as the media and LE have gone pretty much silent on the investigation as of late.
At least where the media is concerned, unfortunately, the divorce seems to be the one thing keeping Kyron’s name out there.
I would also like to add, Cbickel, Happy New Year to you and yours.
To all:
I wish you a peaceful, happy, prosperous 2011 filled with the love of your family and friends.
Bless you Blink and posters for giving voice to, and seeking justice for, the innocent victims.
MockingbirdSings says:
December 31, 2010 at 1:45 am
Still wondering – why did the bus driver call the school? They were 5 minutes away, and both had cell phones.
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This was my thought from the first time Blink said she would have loved to have heard the conversation between TH and the bus driver.
TH knows full well the bus driver had no knowledge of if, or when, Kyron was in attendance that day – particularly because he did not ride the bus that morning.
In my opinion, a “normal” parent reaction would be to get in the car and drive to the school immediately (since it is so close) and/or call the school – because that’s where you would naturally assume your child was.
What was the point of chatting with the bus driver or asking the bus driver to call the school to inquire about Kyron’s whereabouts that day, since Kaine was already in the process of driving there to get Kyron?
Seems hinky – doing or saying too much – just like a certain email offering a too-detailed alibi for a specific time period just one day after one’s own seven-year-old step-child has gone missing.
Happy New Year everyone
I never thought we would be here looking for Kyron
this long
Prayers for Kyron and family
confused- my comment is waiting moderation while posts done afterward have already been posted???????
@Lea(Snipped)”If Mr. Horman truly believes there is evidence implicating Ms. Horman in Kyron’s disappearance, then why recasts events in order to portray Ms. Horman in a false light, and rely on fabricated allegations? Or is the law enforcement case so weak that the facts cannot speak for themselves?”
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I think you “hit the nail right on the head”. It’s a little bit of both. I hope and pray the DA can pick up the pieces to bring justice for Kyron. I appreciate your input.
Not exactly OT – notice the source of the news update -
by Jeff Thompson, kgw.com
Posted on January 1, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Updated today at 11:00 AM
PORTLAND – A 32-year-old man was shot outside a downtown Portland club early Saturday morning and later died from the gunshot wounds. The victim was one of the club’s bouncers, Mayor Sam Adams reported via Twitter later Saturday morning.
Just after 1:30 a.m. a Portland police officer was investigating a fight at Club 915, near SW 2nd Avenue and SW Taylor Street. Within seconds, he reported that shots were fired. A second officer soon found the victim on the ground nearby. Police said hundreds of people were exiting the club at the time.
“In the course of interacting with persons associated with the shooting,” said Sgt. Pete Simpson, “the second officer discharged his firearm.” There were no reports that anyone had been hit by shots fired from that weapon.
Several people were detained and interviewed as part of the investigation.
Officers from the East, Central and North Portland precincts, as well as the Traffic Division and Gang Enforcement units helped control the crowd at the scene.
Medical personnel transported victim to an area hospital where he died from his injuries.
A large area of Downtown Portland was closed off for several hours to all vehicular and pedestrian traffic while detectives began the investigation.
The officer who fired a weapon will be placed on paid administrative leave as the investigation continues.
familythx, It blows my mind, too, but because not everyone is sure there was a MFH plot, there is doubt. It is hard to believe that the sheriff would have KH remove his child and leave his home if they didn’t believe the landscaper, at least initially. It is also a stretch that the whole doctor’s appointment confusion was a coincidence. Again, people have doubt.
So, why the doubt? There is something about this case that says things are not what they seem, I guess. If this were a simple case of a stepmother murdering her stepchild, then unfortunately, we have been there done that and THIS doesn’t look like THAT. Consider, if it were just that simple, then why no arrest and no physical evidence thus far?
If we are to believe the MFH, then we have to believe the landscaper. If we do not believe the MFH, then what are the landscaper’s motivations for lying? In either scenario it would seem there is some involvement with RS and TH, not to mention the 911 call in May and the sexting, blackberry bushes aside.
I personally cannot get past the doctor’s appointment confusion. Why else would a teacher and, or the office attendance employee allow such an error in reporting? Even if the absence escaped the school during and after the science fair, wouldn’t the talent show raise a few red flags? They had to have thought he was an excused absence, or many mistakes were made on the part of the school.
The sheriff comments on the six hours lost before Ky was reported missing, and then says that it was initially treated as a search and rescue, all the while about 20 – 30 state and federal agencies are involved and it appears to insiders as though it is a ransom case is confusing, which is it? The sheriff is with the family, but maybe not 24/7, why? Did TH have the time to get in the white truck and cruise to Jim Kelley’s neighborhood twice during the “search and rescue/ransom” phase, or was it DDS, and why that neighborhood, given the close proximity to the family friends?
If TH is legitimately on SI, where it is reported her cell phone pings, why not say so? But then why has DDS gone missing at the farm during that same time frame? This implicates TH, but also implicates an accomplice, but an accomplice in what; selling, murder, trying to find him, or WHAT?
When the cops say they are looking for another suspect, then it implies that TH had help, but WHO and WHY? Who would help a crazed stepmother remove her shild from a public school? Why would they do this? We are missing something here, I don’t know what, but this just doesn’t make any sense.
You have given us so much insight into TH. I can see her planning this and her involvement, but we have yet to identify and prove what this is and who she got to help her. In your experience with her personality type, who would you profile to be involved with her and why?
25.familythx says:
December 30, 2010 at 9:10 pm
snip> Imagine someone you thought loved you and had your back really hated you and wanted you dead??!! That really just blows my frickin’ mind.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=129366054945675100
Top news stories of 2010 for Portland included Kyron’s story and a picture of TH and her lawyers outside the courthouse-I believe this was in November. This was a picture I had never seen, and TH certainly looks like she may be pregnant in this shot. She is holding her hand against her lower stomach with her fingers splayed out(cradling that area), like you do when you are pregnant. Either she is PG, or she had a hell of a stomach ache that day.
I wonder if she is pregnant, if that’s the reason she isn’t seen out and about(hiding mode), and part of the reason why she isn’t fighting for Kiara. Not that this would make her guilty or not guilty, just another interesting facet.
JMO.
Happy New Year to all. For Kyron, if Blink approves of this as a short break in the discussion, clear your minds for a few minutes.
This version of “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” by Israel “IZ” Kamakawiwoʻole, a musician revered in Hawaii who died in 1997, makes me always remember ever minute of my kid’s childhoods…all the mud, dead bugs, thunderstorms, lakes and the soaking wet dogs who protected them.
Kamakawiwo’ole, all his short life, believed in and honored childhood.
A little boy named Kryon, dabbling with dirt, with the sun on his face, hears this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I
Lea Conner said:
1) What annoys me is when people can’t simply own up to their inability to maintain a relationship, and instead must destroy the other person on their way out the door.
Funny how the same set of information is interpreted differently by each of us. To me, it appeared that Kaine was maintaining a relationship with Terri despite issues within their marriage and at the beginning of this whole debacle he was protecting and defending her – that is until her actions/reactions became clearly indefensible. None of us knows his motives for changing his public statements. My assumptions were at the beginning he was protecting Kiara and hoping there would be a familiar home for Kyron to come back to. Once he was aware of some sort of weird behavior that prompted LE to inform him of a MFH plot, the fact that she failed or walked out on polygraphs, or his own slowly dawning realization that Terri was NOT doing everything possible to help bring Kyron home might have had a little bit to do with it (SNARK). Also, a LARGE portion of ugly behaviors between divorcing parties happens the moment divorce attorneys get involved because there is no longer direct dialog between divorcing spouses and it becomes an emotionless financial/custody win at all costs transaction.
2) This was not some one-night stand that went sideways. This was a marriage. More important, these two people cared enough about each other to make a baby. Regardless of what they feel about each other in the present tense, they owe it to that little girl to act like adults, and allow Kiara the stability and love that she has had for the first two years of her life.
I don’t know who was having one-night stands – and don’t really care. It WAS a marriage with all of its challenges, personalities, blended kids, former spouses – like many marriages today. Assuming the reason they had Kiara was because they “cared enough about each other” is presumptuous. People get pregnant all of the time and have children but that doesn’t necessarily mean it was because they cared about each other enough LOL. And as far as what is owed to Kiara – I think finding out what happened to her big brother would go a lot further toward her well being as she grows up than creating a false atmosphere of denial and lies that she undoubtably will figure out early enough. You are picking apart Kaine’s growing distrust and fear that the woman he was married to was not who she portrayed – yet it is Terri that decided it was good for Kiara, James and Kyron to have a bizarre exchange of graphic digital sexting with a former classmate of their father when she HAD TO KNOW those messages had a very good chance of being intercepted and disseminated to the public domain. HUH?
With respect – Your interpretation of family dynamics doesn’t mirror real life experience or the clearly suspicious behavior of Terri Horman. What mother that loved her tiny baby daughter as much mothers do would not be screaming from the rooftops their innocence and the injustice of it all if the alternative is worse than the heart wrenching separation from that baby? I’ll answer – NO MOTHER would do that. Impossible.
zeus says:
January 1, 2011 at 9:03 pm
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=129366054945675100
Top news stories of 2010 for Portland included Kyron’s story and a picture of TH and her lawyers outside the courthouse-I believe this was in November. This was a picture I had never seen, and TH certainly looks like she may be pregnant in this shot. She is holding her hand against her lower stomach with her fingers splayed out(cradling that area), like you do when you are pregnant. Either she is PG, or she had a hell of a stomach ache that day.
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@zeus.
My mind went there too when I saw that particular pic.
That pic is one I’d not seen before, shows TMH at a different angle/pose.
Lord, I sure hope not.
All life is precious of course, but I just cannot imagine adding a new child into this turmoil.
On another note …
Wishing all here peace and good health in the New Year.
We’re near 5,000 posts on just this one article of the many BOC pieces about dear little Kyron.
Sometimes (well, most of the time), it seems we go in circles and really know no more than we did 7 months ago.
Praying that LE will put together the info they need in order to find Kyron and bring peace to Desiree, Tony, and Kaine soon.
MockingbirdSings says:
January 1, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Not exactly OT – notice the source of the news update -
by Jeff Thompson, kgw.com
Posted on January 1, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Updated today at 11:00 AM
PORTLAND – A 32-year-old man was shot outside a downtown Portland club early Saturday morning and later died from the gunshot wounds. The victim was one of the club’s bouncers, Mayor Sam Adams reported via Twitter later Saturday morning.
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@MockingbirdSings.
What is the deal with Mayor Sam Adams and his “johnny-on-the-spot” Twitter reporting?
I can’t say I’ve ever heard of a Mayor (or any public official) inserting himself in such unrelated/weird events.
Just odd.
Are the people of PDX (in general) happy with their Mayor?
enumclawrose says:
December 31, 2010 at 1:11 am
DReader, I have asked this very question on different threads of this blog. I agree. What do you think it means?
16.DReader says:
December 30, 2010 at 9:50 pm
snip> They used to do a trade off. The sheltered Nook would either have two boys there, or none. Why was this weekend different. Why would this be opposite?
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I thought it was probably because he was going to spend more weekend time with Tony to go fishing and Tony’s work schedule/on call/etc. is probably difficult to adjust. Since everybody involved seemed to work together to keep the visitations going, I assumed they were accommodating a change and not forcing the other visiting children to change what they usually do. Summer schedules were different so it isn’t like they were making a change that would have to continue on.
What we don’t know is how far in advance the decision to make this change was finalized, whether changes were frequent or rare, and whether the change made any difference regarding the abduction.
-snipped-zeus says:
January 1, 2011 at 9:03 pm
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=129366054945675100
Top news stories of 2010 for Portland included Kyron’s story and a picture of TH and her lawyers outside the courthouse-I believe this was in November. This was a picture I had never seen, and TH certainly looks like she may be pregnant in this shot. She is holding her hand against her lower stomach with her fingers splayed out(cradling that area), like you do when you are pregnant. Either she is PG, or she had a hell of a stomach ache that day.
I wonder if she is pregnant, if that’s the reason she isn’t seen out and about(hiding mode), and part of the reason why she isn’t fighting for Kiara. Not that this would make her guilty or not guilty, just another interesting facet.
JMO.
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Zeus – Thank you for this post. I have wondered about this a lot too. I strongly feel like, if true, it could answer the questions about why TH has ‘removed’ herself from the world since summer. If she is, who would be the father? And are those the medical records mentioned in the latest paperwork? Also backing off of the custody issues could be about protecting a new baby b/c of stress related complications. At least she knows Kiara is safe and well taken care of, therefore concentrating all her energy on a healthy pregnancy.
Of course without confirmation of any kind of pregnancy it’s all just MOO about why she might have put herself into confinement.
One more thought, a baby conceived in the spring would be due oh, about now. Another reason the divorce proceedings were pushed into January? Again MOO.
Was there an official order to reporters NOT to publish pictures of TH or has no one been able to catch her out and about? I can’t imagine she hasn’t left the house AT ALL. Especially if MOO pregnant, she’d need medical care at least.
All my MOO, but what another facet, indeed.
my MO– had my child not been on bus– would also be to have driver immediately walkie talkie to school as being the most direct, expeditious way to get an answer.
I think our drivers would have recommended it too if confronted by a puzzled parent.
you get a reliable immediate response. If a parent called on a cell, maybe you get the run around from sch secr or the pta phone volunteer receptionist(at least or local schools have that), if sch phones were even still on for the day. my point of view would be “you’re supposed to have my kid, where is he?” and expect an answe from the school system via channels.
Nancy says:
January 1, 2011 at 12:10 pm
MockingbirdSings says:
December 31, 2010 at 1:45 am
Still wondering – why did the bus driver call the school? They were 5 minutes away, and both had cell phones.
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This was my thought from the first time Blink said she would have loved to have heard the conversation between TH and the bus driver.
TH knows full well the bus driver had no knowledge of if, or when, Kyron was in attendance that day – particularly because he did not ride the bus that morning.
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Why does EVERY question lead to another question instead of an answer? Or back to one we already had? Here’s another one I had but tabled because there was no way to answer it: Why didn’t Kyron ride the bus that morning?
I know Terri was going there anyway, but most kids like to ride the bus with their friends and she could easily have met him when she got there. She left it for him to ride the bus home when she could easily have picked him up along with the SF exhibit at the end of the day – IF she had thought he’d be there in the afternoon. You don’t need the teacher’s permission to go in the building and take home a cardboard exhibit when school is ending. If she was going to show it to Desiree, she would have had to get it that day – unless she wanted to say she couldn’t and make Desiree wait along with a disappointed Kyron.
Was Terri in a hurry to get them both there? Did she want someone to see Kyron coming in with her to be sure that person knew that he was there, which kid he was, and what he was wearing? If he rode the bus, Kyron would have gotten there as much as a half hour later. Was there someone SHE wanted to see and didn’t want to be walking around without a “SF child” and appear to be looking for/at that person?
If he had ridden the bus, the morning bus driver would have known he had gone to school that day, and legally, the school would be responsible for him since he left the supervision of a parent when he got on the bus. Good part of the plan if she wanted the school to be responsible – unless something else didn’t fit.
Everything else she did (that we know of) could have been done even if Kyron rode the bus, except Terri being ready to leave school by 8:45 or earlier. HOWEVER, the early visitation time for parents would be ending about the time the buses arrived, so fewer adults would be expected in the building. This would not have been a personal problem for Terri since she was known by the teacher, and could easily have stayed as long as she wanted, but perhaps someone else she knew would not have blended in so well?
Or she could have just taken a notion to drive Kyron to school, of course.
about the stained pants discussion – didn’t Kaine say Kyron had wanted to learn to do his own laundry, and did?
Maybe he had trouble with the bleach bottle or removing stains. Or maybe Terri did, and he wanted to do it himself and have his favorite clothes ready when he wanted to wear them.
Sammy says – @MockingbirdSings.
What is the deal with Mayor Sam Adams and his “johnny-on-the-spot” Twitter reporting?
I can’t say I’ve ever heard of a Mayor (or any public official) inserting himself in such unrelated/weird events.
Just odd.
Are the people of PDX (in general) happy with their Mayor?
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The Mayor put himself in charge of the police (the mayor and Council divide up city departments to supervise). I’d hate to be the PR person for the police dept. and be wondering what the Mayor would report and whether it would compromise anything we were investigating, however.
The mayor has done some good and some controversial things, but also may be a bit lacking in good judgment about his personal life, to put it tactfully. I dearly loved the mayor he worked for many years ago. She was one of the best, and that may have helped to get him elected. I can tell you she would be on top of this investigation and doing everything she could to help, including investigating the school’s role herself. Many anti-gang, anti-crime measures as well as school improvements began with her planning, pressure, and support. Mayor Adams does not measure up, IMO, but time will tell, I suppose.
@Sammy.
@MockingbirdSings.
What is the deal with Mayor Sam Adams and his “johnny-on-the-spot” Twitter reporting?
I can’t say I’ve ever heard of a Mayor (or any public official) inserting himself in such unrelated/weird events.
Just odd.
Are the people of PDX (in general) happy with their Mayor?
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H No!!!
@ Nancy says:
January 1, 2011 at 12:10 pm
MockingbirdSings says:
December 31, 2010 at 1:45 am
Still wondering – why did the bus driver call the school? They were 5 minutes away, and both had cell phones.
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This was my thought from the first time Blink said she would have loved to have heard the conversation between TH and the bus driver.
TH knows full well the bus driver had no knowledge of if, or when, Kyron was in attendance that day – particularly because he did not ride the bus that morning.
In my opinion, a “normal” parent reaction would be to get in the car and drive to the school immediately (since it is so close) and/or call the school – because that’s where you would naturally assume your child was.
What was the point of chatting with the bus driver or asking the bus driver to call the school to inquire about Kyron’s whereabouts that day, (snip)
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In my school district, since 1989, all bus drivers in my district are required to radio the school transportation office and the school if a child does not get off a school bus in the afternoon.
They have no choice. They have to do that. It does not even matter if the parent stands there at the bus drop, has a sudden attack of memory, and says “oh, never mind, Jimmy probably went home with his friend Tommy.” The bus driver HAS TO radio the school and the school tranportation office.
It’s possible that the Horman’s school district has the same policy.
@TrixiePA
One more thought, a baby conceived in the spring would be due oh, about now. Another reason the divorce proceedings were pushed into January? Again MOO
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I think a baby conceived in June would be due in March. A baby conceived in July might be due in April. That is a very interesting theory IMO. That would make her 4 or 5 months in November.
Ive seen that pic of Th before and the video of her walking in- she’s holding her jacket shut and she looks like she has lost a good bit of weight since those first public photos
Thanks for the replies MockingbirdSings and Lyla.
PDX politics are interesting to say the least.
Yeah, I’d hate to be the PR spokesperson for the police dept – never knowing what info Mayor Sam may decide leak via Twitter to the masses.
I wonder as well if it was really Kyron who wanted to learn to do his laundry or TH would not do it so he had to learn if he wanted clean clothes ….
MockingbirdSings says:
December 31, 2010 at 3:39 pm
What if Terri has a contract to tell her story for a book and subsequent interviews but it depends on her keeping quiet unless she is under oath –
@ Mockingbird: I’m so glad you said this – I brought it up months ago and it wasn’t picked up on. I’d thought that perhaps she paid for Houze with money she got by selling exclusive rights to her story. I guessed Diane Diamond paid her already. I’m not a lawyer, but I believe you cannot make money from a crime you commited. If she’s been paid already before any conviction, it would be legal. I always like what you have to say. You are a voice of reason and don’t seem to filter this case through your own life, feelings and experiences as much as critical analysis. I sometimes am guilty of letting my feelings squeak in – I try not to let them talk for me.
MockingbirdSings says:
December 31, 2010 at 1:45 am
Still wondering – why did the bus driver call the school? They were 5 minutes away, and both had cell phones.
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@MBS- IMHO, any bus driver would immediately call the school. I know mine would, just out of decent genuine concern. And the bus drivers are responsible for the kids too, so if there was a chance that KyH missed the bus or there was some mix up and he was left at school inadvertently. Seems like SOP and policy for most bus companies to me.
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RE: The clothes displayed by MCSO…They appear to be the same pants KyH was wearing a few days prior at the fun center/bowling place. Maybe they were just pulled out of the dirty laundry bin for MCSO? As for the stains and bleachy appearance, maybe someone sucks at doing laundry, maybe KyH did his own laundry on occassion, who knows? I don’t for one second believe that his clothes have been recovered. They would most certainly be physical evidence in a bag in lock up at MCSO lab, and undergoing tests for DNA, etc., etc.
@MockingbirdSings
“Why does EVERY question lead to another question instead of an answer? Or back to one we already had? Here’s another one I had but tabled because there was no way to answer it: Why didn’t Kyron ride the bus that morning?”
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That was one of the first questions I asked early on in the case. He normally took the bus to and from school. It was a “red flag” for me along with all the other seemingly coincidences regarding the events on June 4th. I believe TH was thoroughly involved in “setting up” his disappearance..jmo.
@Nancy, thank you for responding to my post. I think your right about the publicity of the divorce keeping Kyron’s name visible to the public. I think that’s a shame though, I guess it’s true that society in general has a short attention span and it takes something like the spectacle that the adults have turned this case into to keep people interested. I guess having people interested in the sordid affairs of these people is a good thing?
I wish you and yours a happy and prosperous New Year as well! Happy New to everyone here at BOC!
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers, sister, friends and classmates.
5.Jackie Bauer
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December 31, 2010 at 12:51 pm
@Jackie Bauer- Great post, well said.
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@Malty – Don’t you dare leave here, I would miss you terribly! I can’t believe it is 2011 and still no Kyron, either. So sad.
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RE: Mayor Sam Adams… for those asking: No, the majority of people in Portland are not happy with him. IMHO he is a TWIT that tweets too much. I don’t live in Portland so I did not vote for him. IMO lots of folks will be thrilled when he leaves office and the door hits him in the arse.
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Have you all noticed that since Sheriff Staton asked KH, DY and TY not to make any statements there has been next to zero coverage of Kyron in the media? Pizzes me off. It seems the only way to get any attention for him is when his parents go rogue and talk to the press OR the press swarms on the divorce proceedings and has a field day. I’ll bet there will be another big media run this Thursday at the court house. I’m beyond disappointed in the local media for not showing more backbone in pursuing some answers and keeping this story alive. The mere fact that we are this far down the road without answers is worth a new write up and mention on the news. Why isn’t anyone in the media getting tough and asking if there is a chance that this wasn’t an isolated incident?! All just IMOO.
I don’t think Ky will be found until someone confesses and tells where he is. I’m so damn sad and frustrated that so many people have let this little boy down. Thank you, Blink, for trying to give a voice to those that no longer have one.
Hoping all the Blinkster’s are enjoying new year prosperity, and I do mean that, but I need help to sort this out. I have a very hard time laying my head down at night thinking of Where is Kyron?? Blink has told us it is certain he did not leave with TH and there are so many WTHs could and should she have been doing.The point is: if there is a credible witness, placing Ky leaving with SZ, then the TH trail needs to be connected, so if he is alive he can be found and if he is no longer with us they can prosecute. What SO were in play: KH brother?/a Vittreal cousin/uncle,and how can they be connected. It would not be a difficult conversation to imagine, for me, TH having to KH about childrens behavior (good or bad perceived) and within whos ear shot,as well as where Uncle K might be privy. Also Blink says in reference to KH leaving the house and fighting for custody where Kiara is concerned (I’m summorizing that until the implied TH may have something to do with Ky dissappearance is cleared she would do the same protect Kiara)then IMO I get the impression just to much info to ignore. Now my next query to toss out Alot seems to be referenced about Money … Ever heard follow the money trail. Money can hinder any investigation and /or perhaps solve it. Blink says
please forgive the summary style of account)If superior IT skills there may be no electronic trail) OK what if they have NO IT skills then they also would have no trail. Would need to meet , hand off, and speak note to person , etc. Just a thought. A recent movie I saw brought this to mind .The Movie: If our enemy stopped using email, cell phone,and did everything face to face then he would be very hard to find in our world of computors ,smart phones, and tecnology.(Again not verbatim) Maybe SZ is horrifying a inity with no skills whatsoever,referencing technology.What sort of notes may be on local bulletin boards? Storage facilities ?I also can not get pass How did he go unreported at school. Something is very very wrong there.IMO
Blink, is there any issue/link we lessor mortals can research while the esteemed beejay is in connectivity wilderness? Just to help out. PS I am a fan of L Conner’s reflections.