The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio – Tuesday, January 4, 2011 “A Year in Review” – Special Guests: Donna Simpson, Robin Sax & Blink from Blink on Crime
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- Donna Simpson - Most of us have New Year’s resolutions to lose weight, not Donna. She stated she her goal was to weigh 1000 lbs. Listen to her reasons why …
- Blink from Blink on Crime - Its a Year in Review and What Lies Ahead in 2011
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Blink, for tomorrow, here is Jordan’s lawyer’s response to the defense motion.
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26365873/detail.html
Going to be a busy week.
(missed your radio spot again, will catch up when the link is up, as I always do)
Jeez Blink my good luck did not hold- I missed last night’s radio show… I hope you will have a link to the podcast soon.
Until then- I will have to wait to comment on your wisdom and humor, otherwise it would just be misconstrued as misplaced admiration… LOL
Hi Blink..
I tried to download to listen and it says file too large. This doesn’t normally happen so I just thought I’d check. It could just be my computer but I don’t suppose there is a html link? Thanks
Duh Blink…….disregard my previous post as I don’t think the podcast has been added yet. User error!
Thank you for at least considering this. I love your site/blog!
JustJ, we are considering this, yes, but I must admit our caseload is at an all time backlog just after the Holidays.
You have my word if I think we can provide any insight or assisstance we will when we can.
B
Blink, this is a nostalgic moment, and there may even be suggestions that legal ethicists who watched the Anthony case and it’s bumbling lawyer Baez, shared a few moments of quiet time reading our humorous comments about My Cousin Vinny, Red Green and his duct tape instructional video, and more. We know that the Red Green duct tape video originating with comments here, spread around the grit eating— err– the Anthony case following blog world.
But now it seems that our jibes of the defense lead counsel Baez, comparing him to My Cousin Vinny and the amusing lawyerly clips, has not only reached one more level of comparison to the Baez bumbling by bloggers and blogger commentors, but by the legal community itself!
Article in tonight’s copy of the Orlando Sentinel
“Can José Baez rise to the challenge of the Casey Anthony case?”
Quote:
Sheaffer and other attorneys interviewed for this article say the verdict is still out on Baez. Legal-ethics scholar Bob Jarvis, a professor at Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale, said Baez might pull off a real-life “My Cousin Vinny.”
Unquote
What’s next?? Woolworthian Revival?
Cheese and Rice Kleat- I think I am most annoyed at Mr. Schaeffer, who I respect, using my “hubris” word. Google Jose Baez and Hubris, lol, jus sayin’…
At the end of the day, there is no doubt in my mind, that the blogging community will have served this case, and it’s ultimate outcome, well.
Grilled cheese, cut in quarters with a pickle down the middle so it looked like a butterfly. Sigh…
B
Deja Vous all over again as this smacks of the story of Baez and the inmate phone call, once recorded, Baez decided it should be off the record.
Again, the Orlando Sentinel article, but this time, was Baez asking for funding for his client and himself? Is he tired of being poor in this case after having access to so much wealth and control of it’s spending?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/os-jose-baez-outside-depth-20110107,0,6720421.story?page=2
“Mixed relations with media
When reached last week to respond to the criticism and the management of the case in light of Perry’s sanction, Baez said, “I don’t have to answer any questions. Who are you?”
He added, “Do you have something to offer my client? It’s a two-way street. … The door is open if you can assist me or my client.” He hung up the phone, called back minutes later and said that conversation was off the record. Told that the conversation was not, Baez responded by saying, “You’re lying and being unethical.”
Oye Vey.
Maybe he could do a fundraiser with Kid Finders.
Seriously, this baffoon.
B
Baez is having a good week, in the bumble department.
On Monday, Mr. Mason took over the podium, but for about two short comments during the entire afternoon’s proceedings, and one final question by Baez as he asked for a further 30 days to get the expert witness information finally (and completely in the form of reports) to the state.
The earliest of these comments, and thankfully for Mr. Baez, Judge Eaton (who had been present in the courtroom for some reason) decided to up and leave and was gone by the time Baez made his premier comment of the day regarding the classification of the ‘phantom heart sticker’ evidence.
There is quite an amusing moment, as Mason reacts to the nonsense coming from Baez’s mouth, about evidence that’s not evidence. In part three of the hearing found at wftv for Monday’s hearing, about 17 minute in or so, the judge asks the defense about the motion for some sort of evidentiary hearing about the admissability of the heart sticker evidence. Mason asks Baez to respond as it’s his motion, and Baez goes into some theory of theirs that this evidence isn’t evidence anyway. Mason’s reaction is fleeting, but he clearly looks to the sky as if in disbelief of what he is hearing, and breaks into a hearty chuckle to himself, unseen by Baez but probably not missed by the judge!
What must Mason be going through, dragged by Baez into the sanctions mess and having to stand at the podium to utter in his best double-talk and change the topic tactics, and get Baez out of the mess he caused for himself, his legal associates and his client.
Kleat- nice to see you adding so much to the conversation. I too noticed the wording ect- but I just figured that they all must be friends of Blink- and that she shared her insights… I guess its true that great minds sometimes think alike…or so it would seem.
Blink, I think that this is the first case where internet news sites/blogging has become such a factor. Afterall, the defense has actually gone after many bloggers- and both sides have sited internet sources in their motions ect. For pete’s sake, a judge recused himself, after a brief conversation with a local blogger.
It seems that if the defense had its way bloggers, and the sunshine law would be on trail here, and not their client.
I sincerely hope that you are right Blink when you wrote this insightful comment-
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“At the end of the day, there is no doubt in my mind, that the blogging community will have served this case, and it’s ultimate outcome, well.
Grilled cheese, cut in quarters with a pickle down the middle so it looked like a butterfly. Sigh…”
B
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I for one do not agree with those that say bloggers ect can not effect this case- positively or negatively- I believe they have- unfortunately, we have only heard about the negative side (MD, ect)
I sincerely thank you for having BOC up and running so that citizens can have a place to come and share their thoughts ect- hopefully effecting the cases in a positive manner-. Helping to shine a light on truth and justice.
I shudder to think what will happen to advocacy sites such as BOC, if it is determined that they and their contributors did nothing for the cause of justice. Or as the defense would have us believe actually thwarted it-
All JMO
I have a strong suspicion, that during this trial, we will learn the power of some blogs, and their impact on the case. Yes, negatively and positively I agree, but keep in mind, although he faced ridicule for “blogging”, the lead detective in this case took to the web to facilitate leads in his case, while looking for a missing baby.
Cpl Melich is a hero in my book, and I would welcome his clone, as well as other detectives within OCSO on every case we cover.
Pioneer in a case like this, imo, and if it was so “uneventful”, I doubt we would hear about bloggers in a National case at every hearing in the last 8 weeks.
Booya Baez.
B
I finally listened to the show Blink- many topics/cases were discussed. IMO it was worth the wait.
Here is the link-
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/
just scroll down to Jan 4th radio show-
I found your segment very informative and strangely enough, you and Dana actually discussed the impact of media/blogs ect. So, I appreciated the show more,as it seemed to underscore the recent posts here.
I won’t summarize the whole show this time, although I would like to, yet I think everyone should listen for themselves. You talked not only about Caylee’s case, but the George/Tracy case- as well as Morgan’s and Kyron’s and others.
Very interesting commentary on what you see in the new year…
What we will see on BOC in 2011?- More coverage of cold cases- more coverage of the Casey/Caylee Anthony case- You’ll see truecrime cases
but the ones that Blink & Co think they can make an impact covering, one’s in which Blink feels she can progress the case in a positive way. Also we will see Continued coverage of the cases BOC has been covering, Morgan Harrington, Kyron Horman ect. & Possibly, maybe a tv show??
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the compassion, insightfulness and intellect of your contributor’s Blink- I am honored to be a small part of The “Think Tank” that you hold in such high regard.
I would like to quote a statement from you that totally encompasses the reason why I chose to become a contributor here, and why I remain-
“I don’t want people to hate The Anthony’s and hate the defense team more than they care about justice for a little girl. That has always been my concern. There has to be a take away. How does a family prevent this from happening? How do you restore the legacy of a little girl, that basically everybody has made a living off of???….”
Hate- clouds our vision and our thinking, and in my opinion, does nothing to aid the victim- although sometimes, in certain cases, it is hard not to become hate-filled at the horror and injustice of it all… BOC- helps to focus on what is important- justice not vengeance. Opinions without venom. Snark without character assassination- All JMO
Great show, Blink, and as always, thank you for fighting the good fight.
Mom 3.0, today again, you hit my bullseye.
I could never presume to add a thing to what you said, I just offer my sincere thanks for your support on behalf of the Blinktank, and the families who you and our contributors support through your compassion and activism.
Caylee’s case is one I find myself on a rather short leash at times, and it is daunting.
I do not know how some of the great carriers of justice manage to spin their angers into patience at times, but I am doing my level best to mirror that strategy.
B
I have to wonder who pointed The Globe to Ricardo Moralez as a source of photos, or visa versa, who might have suggested to Ricardo to sell the photo of the baby in her crime-scene T, coincidence or no??
We have Cindy going on the Geraldo show to say “we know who has Caylee” then won’t tell him, there was Cindy putting out the June 9th weekend as the last day she saw Caylee, with a Ricardo link. And it was Cindy who had all the media numbers on speed dial, and they, hers.
Darn the woman would have made one heck of an orchestra leader.
Blink- thank you for your comments- I look forward to being around BOC in the new year. You are not the only one that finds themselves fighting to manage their feelings.
Kleat- interesting thoughts- Although I agree that much of what was orchestrated early on seemed to be at Cindy’s bidding- I now do not think so- at least not to the degree I once did. I now believe that Casey is the one that is pulling the strings and holds the title of master manipulator.
She is so good at it in my opinion, that she has Cindy and all believing that they themselves are calling the shots. Blink once called Casey the female Keyser Soze- I think this is spot on.
Casey is a people watcher, she incorporates details from elsewhere, others lives ect, into her lies and into her own persona ect-
If I remember correctly, she called Ricardo at one point, and nonchalantly asked about those pics… Essentially bringing them back -up in his consciousness-
It is not such a big stretch to think in the early days the tabloids were all over this case- pics equal money- Ricardo seemed to know exactly what he was doing- gosh, he even thought he had come up with the whole idea on his own… What would be the big deal in sharing the pics with the public? They were very nice pics, Ricardo actually made an effort to take photos of Casey with Caylee… not many boyfriends would do that, unless they genuinely cared about the child and the mother.
I think Ricardo, like everyone else in Female Keyser Soze’s life, was manipulated. I think Casey knows what she is doing, and has from the very beginning. She manipulates she controls. IMO she enjoys it. -”Ask mom about specific places I mentioned….she should remember specific places..”
All JMO- thanks for posting your thoughts Kleat- maybe at trial we will find out exactly what happened- Who made who-? Did Casey become Casey because of Cindy? Or did Casey being Casey make Cindy the way she is? If you can’t beat ‘em join them.
R E A D T H I S
R E A D I T A G A I N
B
Kleat- I have always believed that Casey made Cindy the way she is. No mother wants to believe her child is rotten to the core; she will make excuse after excuse for the lying and stealing, all in the hopes that some day that child would grow up. However, 99.999% would know when to call a halt and would accept that their child had to face the consequenses of their actions. Albeit, as a mother you probably would be the only one unconditionally there for them. But my problem lies with Cindy’s decision to protect Casey at all costs rather than seek justice for her beloved (and I do believe Cindy loved that little girl, how could you not) grandaughter.
1-11-11 Defense motion for reconsideration of Court’s order to compel discovery and sanctions:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26455761/detail.html
Jose Baez; pre-clarification order, Dec 10 hearing:
“Short of a script of what they’re going to testify to, I’d be more than happy to tell Mr Ashton whatever he needs to know.”
Cheney Mason; post-clarification order, Jan 3 hearing;
“One last thing I want to remind you about. Mr Baez filed a pleading (I’ve seen it, it’s on your file over on your conputer there) with respect to expert witnesses, telling who they are, where they are, what their field of expertise is, the subject matter they are going to testify to; but they have not provided a script, nor are they required to provide a script under any rule. How would we know what they’re going to testify to until the time comes to see what the State puts on.”
From Order for Sanctions & to Compel [Discovery], Jan 6, pages 3-4;
It is hereby ORDERED AND ADJUDGED:
1. The Court finds that defense council Jose Baez has committed a willful violation of the Order to provide additional discovery regarding expert witnesses.
2. The defense shall provide written reports to the state from all expert witnesses, which shall include the following information: a complete statement of opinions the witnesses will express and the reasons for those opinions, and any data or other information considered by the witnesses in forming their opinions or conclusions.
4. Opinions that are not expressed in a written report or at depositions taken during discovery will not be allowed at trial.
Cheney Mason; Jan 11 Defense motion for reconsideration of Court’s order to compel discovery and sanctions; on page 4;
8. The defense response to the “clarification” Order indeed subtantially complied with each of the five provisions ordered by the Court. [In the clairafication order]
9. Not withstanding the aforesaid substantial compliance, and being mindful of the entitlement/obligation of the defense to protect privileged matters (work product privilege), the Defendant submits the following supplemental information as to each of the expert witnesses: [what follows can be found in the link below]
Page 10, item 10. The Court has acknowledged, in fact in its Order of December 3, 2010 (Exhibit “B”), that “work product” privileged documents would not be included in any required discovery. To the extent that Orders have been interpreted as exceeding that, then said Orders would be outside the essential requirements of the law. Not withstanding, the defense has, because of the intervening actions, provided the above information in an effort to, not only fulfill the requirements of the Court, bit to show a good faith effort in complying with this court’s directions.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26455761/detail.html
The defense seems to disagree with the prosecution & the Judge (& Bill Sheaffer) as to the FL laws of criminal proceedure in the area of discovery. In their latest motion the defense is in effect asking to be NOT required to submit experts reports & data due to work product protections.
From uslegal.com;
Work product refers to the writings, notes, memoranda, reports on conversations with the client or witness, research and confidential materials that reflect an attorney’s impressions, conclusions, opinions, or legal research or theories.Work product materials are confidential and are not required to be submitted in answer to discovery requests or subpoenae.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/w/work-product/
Can anyone illuminate how work product protections relate to discovery in the Anthony case? I’m honestly confused.
It’s too bad the prosecutors didn’t also call the actaul Zenaida Gonzalez that visited the exact vacant Sawgrass apartments. Just another coincedence of a real person who’s name was dragged through the mud due to Casey’s lies. The one that police showed Casey a photo and Casey stated she did not know her, yet in jail house videos tells her parents police never showed her a photo of that woman, leaving the impression for her parents and the public that this person could be responsible.An innocent person involved in an accidental death would have no reason to sit in jail for 3 years, first maintaining a kidnapping the first 5 months, then after the body is found and through their lawyer blame everyone under the sun for the death and placement of the body. If it’s an accident, no need to cast blame on anyone or stand before the world in a press conference with your lawyer to maintain Caylee is still alive wearing a find Caylee t-shirt and your lawyer telling the public to continue looking for a live Caylee. Too bad the prosecutors didn’t show the jail house letter Casey wrote saying her brother tried to molest her and how she thought her father had done the same when she was much younger. How that hand written statement, through her attorney, esculated to a new and more graphic story of her father putting his penis in her mouth every morning before school. A girl who is molested by her father, is not going to continue staying in the house as an adult and allow that father to watch her child I know because I left home the day I turned 18 and I was molested by my step-father. Every person that I met in my support groups, left home at 18 or ran away from home prior, non of the allowed the abuse to watch their child. Not that these examples prove murder, but itdoes show her lies esculating when there is no necessity for it and she does it without regard even though she knows of the accident . YES, it makes not only reasonable sense but absolute perfect sense that a person involved in an accidental death, would over the coarse of 3 years sitting in protective custody, blame a fake nanny who happens to be a real person with the same name who just happened to looked at the exact vacant apartment, blame the ex-boyfriend and his family, blame the meter reader, then come full circle to blame her mom & dad. That’s exactly what a person who is present at the time of an accidental death does.NOW I too know exactly what the reasonable thing to do if my child dies accidentally, and if I dump his body in the woods with the trash I can save a lot of money on funeral costs. If my family and friends don’t understand too bad, then they’re just a Huge Waste. If it where a man defendant, with odd circumstantial evidence, he most likely would have been convicted .Oh yeah, he was Scott Peterson.