Fugitive Cop Shooter David Durham’s House Located In NEW Kyron Horman Search Grid
Officer Steve Dodds was alledgedly shot more than once at close range while the incident was recorded on his patrol car dash cam. Dodds is in critical but stable condition. Dodd’s stopped David Anthony Durham for speeding Sunday evening after he left a co-worker’s party without his date, but not without his dog, Huckleberry.
Huckleberry has been recovered by police with only a minor leg injury.
It is not known what prompted the attempt on Officer Dodd’s life, but according to Durham’s own family members, he has been suffering from delusions and instability following a shoulder injury he sustained in June, 2010, for which he was taking prescription painkillers.
Michael Durham, David’s older brother and a Wildlife Photographer, pleads for his younger brother to turn himself in peacefully:
“I wouldn’t say that was a catalyst for anything,” he said. “You know, my brother has been having some issues with a shoulder injury and he had been on pain medication for the past few months. And we noticed that his ability to perceive what was real and what was not real seemed to diminish.” “My sister, Laurie, my brother Willie, myself and my mother, we love David and we want him to peacefully turn himself into the police,” said Michael Durham. “They assured us that he won’t be harmed if he’s not armed and doesn’t act in a threatening manner.”
David Anthony Durham, a resident of Sauvie Island, for the past six years, was a Sauvie Island Volunteer Firefighter, and nominated himself for director in 2007. Six months ago he was removed from active duty for erratic behavior. Durham is also reported to be an avid landscaper and outdoorsman.
Durham’s home on Sauvie Island, is directly adjacent to a highly publicized sighting from a tipster in the Kyron Horman disappearance investigation named “Chas” who claimed to have seen a woman with long red hair the morning of his disappearance at approximately 9:15AM on his way to work, in a white truck.
Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office has cordoned off Durham’s Sauvie Island home and access is blocked by a MCSO patrol car.
There has been a 25 person SWAT team stationed at the base of the street since Monday, as well as a second team at a vacation home in Waldport.
A co-worker of Durham’s at Willamette Blueprint & Printing described her friend as a happy go lucky guy with no emotional problems and has worked there for at least 5 years.
However, Durham failed to show up for work on Friday, indicating perhaps he had concerns prior to the Sunday shooting. In a financial document obtained exclusively by blinkoncrime.com, In September 2005 David Durham claimed he left Willamette to become a full-time college student and that he was receiving unemployment compensation directly to his Portland Teachers Credit Union Account, while seeking financial aid.
It also showed that Mr. Durham was a previous resident on Sauvie Island at another address 2.5 miles South, and directly adjacent to Logie Rd across the channel. New Intelligence Leads To New Search Efforts Today Specifics have not been released, but new intelligence, the first in 9 months, is responsible for today’s new search efforts.
Today, Newly-tasked search teams are concentrated on NW Skyline Rd, south of Rocky Point.
Desiree Young, Kyron’s Mother:
“I have been waiting for this search to happen for some time now,” said Desiree Young, Kyron’s biological mother. “The Kyron Horman Task Force has shared the intelligence information with me, but unfortunately I can’t share that information with the media. I’m excited that today’s search will hopefully bring some closure to this case.”
www.blinkoncrime.com editor Madeline Tanner contributed to this report
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IIRC there was a mail pick up business near one of the FM stores. I thought there was a poster that had a daughter or her friend’s daughter that worked at or near that business and witnessed TH and possibly DDS going into that place and then TH making a call from a pay phone. All from memory, so I could be way off.
@M Harris
Also, does anyone remember a mention of TH making a phone call from a pay phone (I think from one of the FM stores)? I always wandered who witnessed that but I’ve never heard it mentioned again.
Thinking about the glasses—taking away a child’s glasses–makes me think of what the one gentleman saw : a young boy in the pick up with a frightened look–so wrenching to think of.
Where is Kyron? Still praying for the needed evidence to be found soon, praying for a resolution, soon—-and peace for Ky and his mother especially.
So Let it Be.
I “two” have typed the wrong “shit” on occasion, so your post cracked me up. If you want to feel better, go back a week or two, to the great grammar debate we had on this site. I think you are in the right place here.
sticky says:
April 1, 2011 at 11:32 pm
I really don’t think DAD did this
I do hope he witnessed something
And comes on in
@TBZ
Being a local that shops in the area it makes no sense that TH went from FM #1 to FM #2 looking for children’s medication. Between these stores are lot closer and easier options – Walgren’s near Cornelius Pass and Cornell Road, Tanansbourne area (Target, Rite-Aide, Safeway, Haggen’s), Albertson’s on 185th and West Union. All of these are between the 2nd Fred Meyer. As a mother, if I had gone to FM #1 and I couldn’t find what I was looking for I would have driven to the next exit from Hwy 26 (185th) and gone to Rite Aid or even Target.
I still believe that perhaps she was suppose to meet someone at Fred Meyer and went to the wrong one.
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You are right, so many other places to get the medicine that were more convenient. Had to be a reason she traveled the way she did that morning. You aren’t alone in wondering if she went to the “wrong” Fred Meyer.
Remains Of Adult Found In Pacific County
http://www.kptv.com/news/27406729/detail.html
I remember a post on BOC from someone claiming that they Were the person who photo shopped the pic of Kyron without his glasses, for MCSO. They asked if we saw a birthmark or a mole(something like that) under one of his eyes. I don’t think anyone replied back. I Always wondered what it would mean if there was?
30.Sheila says:
April 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm
A perfect example of why LE needs to make sure their i’s are dotted & their t’s are crossed. This is a case that has haunted our town for years. Stephanie Condons family has still not gotten the closure that they deserve. Our town is in shock that this man got away with murder. Less than a day of deliberations & he walks…My heart breaks for the Condon family.
http://www.kpic.com/news/local/119093899.html
http://www.kpic.com/news/local/119076709.html
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From what I have read:
The defendant, Dale Wayne Hill, went to the home where the 14 year old victim was babysitting shortly before she went missing. He was the last person to see her alive. Her remains were found on a rural road where Dale Hill had previously lived which was 40 miles from where she went missing. He changed his story several times when being questioned by police about the girl’s disappearance. Only one month after the disappearance of Stephanie Condon, Dale Hill was charged and later convicted of breaking into a home and stealing a woman’s panties.
The jury deliberated for only one day before finding him innocent. I believe the jury did not hear evidence that Dale Hill was convicted of breaking into a home and stealing the woman’s panties. This evidence was not permitted during the trial.
In this case, IMO, justice was not served and now a predator is free to harm again.
M Harris says: Also, does anyone remember a mention of TH making a phone call from a pay phone (I think from one of the FM stores)? I always wandered who witnessed that but I’ve never heard it mentioned again.
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I also recall reading something to that effect but I do not remember the source so cannot say if it is questionable information. I remember Terri being described and quite agitated as she was talking on the phone.
Malty says:
April 1, 2011 at 11:33 pm
@neighbor
What was going on at the school on the 3rd
Why was Kaine and Terri there
Why were you there
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I think that the students science projects were set up on the June 3 the evening before the Science Fair and not carried into the school on june 4. I believe TH had ask for Kaines truck on june 4 to bring the KY’s science project home. There has been a lot of discussion here on why TH did not pick up KY’s science project on june 4 after the science fair since she had Kaines truck that day for the purpose of picking up said science project. According to TH she did send an email to Ms porter asking when it would be a good time to pick up the science project.
@ccane wrote “when I look at the list of the “Minor child” of I notice that Kaine is the only parent who was not at the science fair yet his name is listed as a parent of Kitty..”
Thank you for pointing this out!! I mentioned this about a month or two ago and nothing else was said about it (you definitely worded this thought much better than I did).
I find this incredibly strange, especially because list of names follows a very specific pattern.
@Mockingbird- Yes, Kaine and Terri both have children from other marriages, but (imo) I dont see that as the reason for Kaine’s name being listed. Before this list was released many people had questioned whether kitty was with Terri inside the school that morning or outside in the truck, possibly with another person. Given that this was the question on so many peoples minds, I would be surprised if anyone assumed/or questioned whether the minor child listed was james and not kitty, regardless of whether Kaine is listed as being the parent.
hmmm.. makes me wonder:
1) Were there other stepparents who were at the school that morning without their spouse but with their stepchild?
2) If there was more than one minor child with a parent, how does the list depict that? This may not have been a point investigators found important if listing who had minor children with them was only to show that kitty was definitely with Terri in the school (or if there is more meaning to kaine’s name being listed)
wonder if the remains found are DAD?
never heard the pay phone thing either! I thought I had read almost every article I could find. wow interesting so there IS a witness that saw TH and DS together that morning?
Malty says:
April 1, 2011 at 4:56 pm
@Carol
Very interesting post
As far as marijuana goes we do have a lot of
People concerned about medical issue
If marijuana is a life style then yes it could be
a large clan strange use of terms
That morgellons is new to me and I found
You post interesting
Thank you
@Malty, you are welcome but my point had less to do with the ‘marijuana’ life-style and more to do with the clans/cults
surrounding certain health issues. There are unscrupulous
people- vendors that prey on those groups and market a wide range of snake oil products, services and more via forums and via
IP harvesting. Therein lies the key, IMO.
It struck me that Kyron had certain symptoms that, when Googled, could lead a concerned party to the aforementioned
groups via internet. David Durham as well.
Because working with plants/soil is thought to be a common connection to some emerging diseases, those working in related professions
would likely be lead to those sources as well.
Unexplained weight gain, mood swings (brain fog-focus issues/Kyron) are symptoms that could lead via an internet search to these groups.
I am not saying the people in the health related groups are unscrupulous. Just mislead in certain areas , victimized via
IP harvesters and brainwashed on certain forums.
There are many well known people and Celebs with Lyme disease.
Bush was treated for Lyme disease: White House:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2007/08/08/bush-lyme.html
Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates, Richard Gere, author Amy Tan, supermodel Christy Turlington, singer Pete Seeger,
and many other Celebs have been diagnosed with Lyme disease.
http://www.lymeinfo.net/darylhalllyme.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/category?cat=251
http://www.slate.com/id/2201017/pagenum/2
http://www.amytan.net/
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/779932/Folk-singer-Seeger-has-Lyme-disease.html
Lyme checklist:
http://www.lymedisease.org/resources/pdf/Symptomchecklist%20burrascano.pdf
To list a few with Morgellons: Joni Mitchell, Billy Koch, Louise Mandrell’s husband. She sits on the board of a Morgellons Foundation. Her husband diagnosed with the condition:
http://mandrell.weebly.com/3/post/2008/11/post-title-click-and-type-to-edit.html
http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1996
http://www.ktvu.com/news/9264350/detail.html
Because those with the money to buy good health care are diagnosed and treated, it is unlikely you would
find them surfing the web for symptoms or as a member of any health related group. Morgellons is, IMO, a
co-infection of Lyme disease. The symptoms are much the same (Lyme/Morgellons) but for the fibers/specks found on/in the skin
of those with Morgellons. A microscope is needed to see the very tiny fibers in most cases. Both are systemic.
Others who may not have a doctor that can diagnose/test/treat a myriad of symptoms may be left to their own devices and perhaps a
misdiagnoses?
I been here trying to sort out my confused mind
As usual
Why were people at the school on the 3rd and
If not to set up the SF early
Was there some activity going on
Also I think Kyron had a small birth mark on his forehead
Just stuff I thought I read
It is easy to get confused
neighbor says:
March 28, 2011 at 8:12 pm
I second. It seems very odd. Many locals and parents have been held under the microscope. Some lost their security clearance to volunteer at school. One got arrested on an out-of-state felon warrant, and a drugs operation was busted. These are word of mouth from a well respected/informed other local. Meanwhile the trespassing and gasoline siphon are up as well. But again, it seems very odd that all this crime is suddenly popping up.
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I find neighbor’s post above very interesting. Have we discussed any drug operation’s busted directly in the scope of the Skyline community? I do not think so or I missed it. Hmmm
I also keep thinking back to TH taking the Truck June 4th. Did she want someone to think that Kaine was at the SF that morning? Was she hiding from someone? I also have never seen it stated that TH and KH did not trade cars back sometime that day. She could have been in the mustang later perhaps on SI. Are any of the places such as the FM’s, Albertson’s or Gym close to INTEL? If I had to drive around looking for a stolen little boy I would think I would feel more comfortable in my own car. The look on TH’s face at the first Press Conference always looked like fear to me. Who took Kyron, where is Kyron.
@Sammy and Carol: interesting blog reading. The second one posted makes mention of DAD being into alternative lifestyles and I am curious as to what that means.
Both seem to paint a picture of a man who was on the edge after finding out he has cancer and lost a job. This doesnt sound like a guy who just had some random shoulder injury.
MOO
Googling to find the List (not yet), I see this matter of Kaine’s name was posted at BOC on Nov 2, tho I don’t know how to get there either. Couples attending with different last names are listed. IMO if his name is there, MCSO was calling for comment on if he attended or not, just like the letter said.
@ Sheila says:
April 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm
My heart broke for your community last night when I saw the news. I know this is going to be difficult all around.
Even the worst of “coolers” have redacted that list, but, finding one, it is impossible to say the competence or intent of the draftor IMO w/o more info wrt single parents & prior marriages. It does appear minor children have both parents when both attended, but we dont know in other cases if it was a single parent.
And, for example, BLev & CV, a couple, attended per list, but the minor child follows only his name & cites only him as parent. This could just be draftor ineptness.
this topic was discussed 12/10-11 on SM
Birthmark
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/anna_griffin/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_has_gone_from_tra.html?mobRedir=false
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_search_family_mem.html?mobRedir=false
7.Miss Bri says:
April 2, 2011 at 8:56 am
@ccane wrote “when I look at the list of the “Minor child” of I notice that Kaine is the only parent who was not at the science fair yet his name is listed as a parent of Kitty..”
yes I did see ur earlier post on this as well..
It begs the question on where was Kitty.. and surprisingly still
only posting photos of Kyron with project , project alone and Curtis with project.. seems miss kitty missed out on the photo op that morning altogether. Per Andrea Leckey Kitty was not feeling well and “I knew that the day before”. Was she Sleeping in the truck after a ruff night of feeling ill and Terri ran in long enough to get the photos. Was Kyron left in the truck to babysit at any point so Terri could talk to the teacher. Was Terri even at the school after the 8:30 photo witnessed by Gina Z.. or did Terri leave dropping off Kyron at 8:45 (somewhere) and return to the school closer to 9am… then out running errands?? Has any searches ever been done at any of the locations she ran errands or the gym areas? LE seems to think Kyron is very near to the location he was last seen.. why such a small area? did LE think Kyron was alive and well when Terri went to 2 the two fred meyers stores so no need to look at those locations.. or do they think he was already dropped off? My guess is they think she did see him last at 8:45.. just not at the school walking down a hall. As far as her going to the gym she must have picked up a ton of DNA and whatever anyone else tracked in from where they had all been that day not to mention Gyms usually provide disinfectant spray.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/99146044.html?m=y&smobile=y&c=y
Review Dede and other friends
@E-Rose
I can’t seem to find about that room or the cinder
block on a news site either
are these just stuff people said I wonder
But I really think it was on the news
Still digging
Blink says:
I am stating as a fact, to be disregarded without a named source if you will, that there were witnesses that saw Kyron, or a child matching his description they believed to be him, exit the building with an individual that was NOT Terri Horman
Were the credible witness(es) that saw the person who exited the building with KY able to identify this person as a male or female? I have also always wondered about KH’s name being on the list of attendees at the school. Could it be that the person that exited the school with Ky been someone who was similar in appearance to KH?
Comparisons — this case is how some murders play out:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/04/search_efforts_continue_saturd.html
Did the suspect confess to murdering this girl? Otherwise, as they are searching for her remains — if he did NOT confess to killing her — what evidence did LE find that convinced them she was murdered?
In Kyron’s case, the school is the crime scene only for the abduction itself.
Every case is unique — sort of. In Kyron’s case, what is different concerning lack of evidence, lack of a trail, lack of..??? How can a child just evaporate?
Thus far, but IMO it’s not worth more time, I’ve located 2 women, WH & JK, on the list whose minor children were in attendance and listed with mother’s name only, yet father shares the same last name, was not in attendance, yet is active as a couple in the school commumity (couples jointly listed in auction brochure). I don’t think Kaine was listed to distinguish Kiara from James as a minor. James was no longer a part of the community the letter targeted.
I don’t know but as a parent and a teacher, if I saw and child/student leave the school building with someone other than their parent,I would be going over and asking (in a nice way) what was going on. As a parent and a teacher especially at a function like this I would continuously be watching for “situations”. Maybe I’m just that kind of person but I would go find out to be safe. Especially if it was a 7 year old. In some way, knowing only what we know and not what LE may know, I kinda see the school as somewhat responsible. When you drop your child off at school, you expect every measure of safety to be taken to make sure your child is safe. IMO
Human remains washed up near Fort Stevens State Park, Oregon–no gender identified yet. Just posted today. DAD?
Remains wash up on Oregon’s north coast
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OR_REMAINS_FOUND_OROL-?SITE=OREUG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
@magyargirl58 says:
April 1, 2011 at 1:20 pm
@carol methinks you have a very vivid imagination and led a pretty sheltered life. Not meant to be insulting just mildly amusing concerning a non amusing situation. IMO
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Thank you magyargirl58, you worded it nicely, I’m glad you said something, I agree with you.
@NelMel says:
April 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Comparisons — this case is how some murders play out:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/04/search_efforts_continue_saturd.html
Did the suspect confess to murdering this girl? Otherwise, as they are searching for her remains — if he did NOT confess to killing her — what evidence did LE find that convinced them she was murdered?
In Kyron’s case, the school is the crime scene only for the abduction itself.
Every case is unique — sort of. In Kyron’s case, what is different concerning lack of evidence, lack of a trail, lack of..??? How can a child just evaporate?
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I heard this on the news last night, the victim’s DNA/Blood was found in the boy’s home. He has not confessed. Yet.
http://www.kgw.com/news/14-year-old-119025529.html
Interesting article with quote from DY regarding LE …
(snipped)
By Chris Conrad
Mail Tribune
It’s been a brutal nine months for the parents of Kyron Horman, the boy who disappeared from his Portland school last spring, but they are determined to keep the case fresh in the minds of Southern Oregon residents.
Desiree Young, Kyron’s mother, likes to remind folks that her boy has strong ties to Medford, even though most of the media coverage has focused on the Portland area.
“He spent as much time (in Medford) as Portland,” Young said from her west Medford home. “Which is why I believe it’s important to get the word out down here.”
To do this Young helped organize a women’s roller derby bout at Roller Odyssey tonight in Medford.
The bout will feature skaters with the local Sis-Q Rollerz, the Mt. Shasta Rollers and the North Coast Roller Derby Tsunami Sirens.
A portion of the proceeds from the event will go to the Multnomah County Sheriff Department’s Kyron Horman Search Fund.
Kyron very much enjoyed the roller derby bouts he attended in Medford.
“It was one of our favorite things to do together,” Young said.
Young said she and her husband, Tony Young, who is a Medford police detective, keep in regular contact with authorities in Multnomah County.
“They are still working very hard up there,” Young said. “The mood is very positive.”
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20110326%2FNEWS%2F103260303
Re: The List. My interpretation is that TH was at the science fair and Kitty was with her. If the Horman name was treated like every other name, the list would have read TH and minor child, but since their family information was already out there, the list further explained that the minor child was TH’s and KH’s. It did not read as though KH was at the SF. JMO.
Re: June 3. TH and KH were at the school presumably when the projects were being set up for the next day. I remember Neighbor telling us this way back and IIRC some projects were still being brought in the day of the fair. Did TH make a point for KH and the white pickup to be seen together at school for a reason? IIRC, a Skyline poster stated KH was not readily ID’d at school.
@Ode
I think it is interesting to explore the implications of TH having traded vehicles with KH after the SF. What to make of all the posters of red headed women and white trucks.
I assume not ALL vehicles were searched, however, if someone was planning to abduct him, the Horman’s truck would be the only vehicle (other than the mustang) that a live Ky could be taken away in and no forensic evidence of his abduction would be found.
It is very interesting that a working Dad and his truck were brought to the school the day before his son was abducted. This may have been the only way for KH to participate in the SF, but why not just KH and Ky go set up the project if the goal was to demonstrate KH’s participation? Did someone want white truck + KH + Ky + TH to be on the minds of potential witnesses?
@Malty
I’m still digging, too. I am re-reading a lot of articles. I had forgotten all about the birthmark until you found it. I wondered why it hasn’t gotten more attention until I read that it has pretty much disappeared until he gets upset.
From my previous thought…
Assume that LE started searching vehicles for evidence that Ky had been in them. Obviously the truck and the mustang would have his forensics. What other vehicles in the circle of Horman associates transported Ky, so that in the event they were searched, the vehicles owner could honestly state that they had just (for example) had him in the car when they went on an outing.
@Rose
You have got to love those monkeys.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9183.0
Just an FYI- Could be the guy that washed away in the tsunami down in
Brookings, OR., or DAD, or….will keep an eye on the story.
ASTORIA — Human remains have washed up on a beach in Clatsop County, and authorities are trying to identify them.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/04/human_remains_wash_up_on_a_beach_near_astoria.html
DAD?? …the remains they found??
@enumclawrose says:
April 2, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Re: June 3. TH and KH were at the school presumably when the projects were being set up for the next day. I remember Neighbor telling us this way back and IIRC some projects were still being brought in the day of the fair. Did TH make a point for KH and the white pickup to be seen together at school for a reason? IIRC, a Skyline poster stated KH was not readily ID’d at school.
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I remember Kaine saying in an interview TH asked him if she could take the truck instead of the Mustang to the school to set up Ky’s SF project on June 3rd. He said he thought it was reasonable for her to use the truck on June 4th also to pick up Ky’s project. I’m not convinced KH was with Terri to set up the project on June 3rd. I was given the impression it was easier for her to take the truck on both days because the truck had more room for the project. I will try to locate the link.
I think most teachers would agree with you, which makes me think the witness was not a teacher, and the witness did not know what they were witnessing, until after the fact. Then again, lots of parents and kids in and out that day, how would a 6th grade teacher know who 2nd graders parents are? Maybe a child alone would raise a red flag, not a child with an adult, unless they were kicking and screaming. If someone is seen leaving, that could imply the back of their head. JMO. Wish you had been there asking questions.
magyargirl says:
April 2, 2011 at 3:30 pm
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I don’t know but as a parent and a teacher, if I saw and child/student leave the school building with someone other than their parent,I would be going over and asking (in a nice way) what was going on.
@ Idahogal says:
April 2, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Just an FYI- Could be the guy that washed away in the tsunami down in
Brookings, OR., or DAD, or….will keep an eye on the story.
ASTORIA — Human remains have washed up on a beach in Clatsop County, and authorities are trying to identify them.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/04/human_remains_wash_up_on_a_beach_near_astoria.html
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No indication in the article if the remains are adult or child, btw.
“Desiree Young, Kyron’s mother, likes to remind folks that her boy has strong ties to Medford, even though most of the media coverage has focused on the Portland area.He spent as much time (in Medford) as Portland,” Young said from her west Medford home. “Which is why I believe it’s important to get the word out down here.”
I am curious as to why this is stated as face if the Horman’s had physical custody of Kyron. Commons sense says that Kyron would not have spent “equal” time in this town.
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers, sister, friends and classmates.
sorry….face = fact. geeze
Thanks Idahogal for posting the newest found body story. Hmmmm…in the water a long time (they could not even determine the gender), no mention of adult or child, and where it was found is where the Columbia River enters the ocean? Am I reading that correctly? Hmmm…
Miss Bri says:
April 2, 2011 at 8:56 am
@ccane wrote “when I look at the list of the “Minor child” of I notice that Kaine is the only parent who was not at the science fair yet his name is listed as a parent of Kitty..”
Thank you for pointing this out!! I mentioned this about a month or two ago and nothing else was said about it (you definitely worded this thought much better than I did).
I find this incredibly strange, especially because list of names follows a very specific pattern.
@Mockingbird- Yes, Kaine and Terri both have children from other marriages, but (imo) I dont see that as the reason for Kaine’s name being listed. Before this list was released many people had questioned whether kitty was with Terri inside the school that morning or outside in the truck, possibly with another person. Given that this was the question on so many peoples minds, I would be surprised if anyone assumed/or questioned whether the minor child listed was james and not kitty, regardless of whether Kaine is listed as being the parent.
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Early on, there was a lot of speculation about whether James was in town on the 4th. Even though it was resolved, the question continued to come up off and on, as many of our other questions have and do. It might have been worth being absolutely clear since James didn’t attend Skyline and someone may have assumed a teen boy walking with Kyron was James. The list went to people who knew the Horman’s, some who knew a little about the Horman’s, and some who didn’t know them at all. IF someone tried to add James’ name to the list, LE would know Kyron was seen walking with a male teenager incorrectly identified. It’s a stretch, but a very detail oriented person might have thought it important.
It’s also quite possible that Kaine’s name WAS on the list when first created, then someone realized the error (perhaps Kaine saw the list before it was sent out) and removed Kaine’s name but didn’t correct the “minor child of” part.
The first thought I had about seeing Kaine’s name listed along with Terri’s for Kiara was that whoever finalized the list had an emotional moment of sympathy for Kaine and didn’t have the heart to list Kiara as the minor child of Terri (only) when Kaine was already in such pain over losing Kyron. It is why I would have done it, because words can hurt even when we know we “shouldn’t” feel that way – especially when every word and every action is under a microscope every day during a crisis. It’s accurate, it doesn’t imply anything, and we know this case has been very close to the hearts of many in LE. This is only MY thought based on MY feeling. Not saying it happened that way or that there isn’t some important hidden meaning in the listing that people should continue trying to figure out.
Just a thought – this list, on its own, really didn’t completely clarify whether Kiara was inside the school or spent some or all of the time in the truck “at” the SF (which would be illegal in Oregon and not something I hope a parent would do). I’ve always thought it odd that Terri didn’t post an additional picture that included Kiara in front of the exhibit since she generally posted so many of Kiara, but I’ve also assumed she took other pictures we’ve never seen.
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Two thoughts about why Terri emailed the teacher about a time to pick up the SF exhibit even though Terri could simply have gone to the school at the end of the day and picked it up (apparently a 5 minute drive and she still had the truck):
After it was said that they were supposed to take the SF exhibit south to meet his mother so she could see it too, I thought this was (1) Terri’s passive aggressive way of not allowing him to show it to her and blaming the teacher whom she knew would not get back to her in time on a Friday afternoon, or (2) Terri sent the email “for show” since she knew the Talent Show was going on, and she didn’t really care because she knew he wouldn’t be headed south to meet anyone after all. MOO
I know these ideas have been around the block in one way or another before, but I see them continuing to surface. Unless Terri speaks truthfully, we are never going to know the answers to questions like emailing the teacher because there is no secondary way to figure out what she was thinking.
@E-Rose
I am reading old stuff to
and I can’t understand why Dede seems to get a free pass
lots of stuff looks not so great about her
@NelMel-interesting and sad article about Vaughn. The interesting and surprising part for me was the use of Harry Oakes.
@42.Rich M says:
April 3, 2011 at 9:50 am
@NelMel-interesting and sad article about Vaughn. The interesting and surprising part for me was the use of Harry Oakes.
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What does this mean? I missed it completely!
I too have been reading June-August. So many wonderful writers I no longer see. Am thinking there are many patiently waiting.
@ Mockingbird. 46.
The attendance list was represented as a veracious, detailed document, true on its four corners, representing to the public MCSO’s full knowledge of persons at the school.
On the stand at Terri’s trial, H may say: no name of any parent not in attendance was listed as parent of a minor child,isnt that true? Staton: No. H: the only exception is KH, isnt that true? Staton; Yes. H: MCSO wanted to get feedback because there was a slim possibility that he, like others, might have attended, so his name was listed, iisnt that true? Staton: no. H: Then, Kaine was the only exception out of —- parents of minors not attending because the MCSO detective drafting it felt emotional about kaine or negative about Terri. Which is it Sheriff Staton?
45.Rose says:
April 1, 2011 at 11:38 pm
@justice4kyron. Can u share those urls for Javier Myspace & Washington Cty Wanted you refer to? Thanks
Rose, here you go…
Javier http://www.myspace.com/soyesecreeper
http://www.co.washington.or.us/Sheriff/FightingCrime/MostWanted/wanted-persons.cfm
Lucia is significant other.
Prayers for Kyron.
My thoughts exactly.
Malty says:
April 3, 2011 at 2:43 am
@E-Rose
I am reading old stuff to
and I can’t understand why Dede seems to get a free pass
lots of stuff looks not so great about her