Disappearance And Deception Turns To Decomposition: Dogs Smell Death at Lisa Irwin’s Home
Kansas City, MO- For the first time since 10 month old Lisa Irwin was reported missing by her father Jeremy Irwin the morning of October 4, detectives with the Kansas City Police investigating her disappearance, together with the FBI, searched her home without the permission of her parents.
Through the execution of detailed search warrants and seizing the home temporarily, optimism for finding baby Lisa alive took a public nosedive.
Why?
An FBI cadaver canine, with permission from Lisa’s parents to enter the premises Monday, gave a positive alert to it’s handler, indicating the presence of decomposition in the area of Bradley’s bed, in a wide section of carpet which has since been removed for testing.
State Prosecutor for Clay County, Wes Rogers, was unsuccessful in his bid to have the warrants sealed from the public.
Upon the canines alert, Kansas City MO lead investigator Kimberly Shirley-Williams prepared affidavits and a search petition while the N. Lister St. home was sealed until a judge granted them a few hours later.
Beginning Tuesday and continuing through today, crime scene technicians in white hazmat suits could be seen removing substantial amounts of brown bags and items obviously concealed with brown paper. Officers could be seen in the rear of the property with small rakes, shovels and bags.
Detectives will not reveal what was removed from the home, or anything else about the progression of their investigation.
However, a source inside the investigation speaking to www.blinkoncrime.com on the condition of anonymity, says the clothing and a few belongings Deborah Bradley said Lisa was wearing when she was allegedly abducted from the front window of the family home, were discovered and taken into evidence.
The source went on to say that there is no doubt that prosecutors expect a grand jury to indict Deborah Bradley on charges she is responsible for the disappearance of her daughter Lisa, and circumstances surrounding her possible death.
Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley have refused to speak to police in order to answer questions from investigators which they feel are critical to the investigation, and only Deborah and Jeremy would be able to answer.
The couple has since hired high profile defense attorney Joe Tacopina.
Photo Credit Kansas City Star
Aside from perfecting the Full-Double Windsor knot to the envy of the media savvy legal set, Tacopina previously represented a suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance, Joran Van Der Sloot.
Late today, Tacopina’s office released a statement on the couples behalf.
Police continue to guard the Irwin residence, instructing neighbors to keep outside the marked perimeter.
Check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for updates to this story.
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Bringing this over from scaredmonkeys
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12213.860
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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/mother-of-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out
Mother of one of Lisa Irwin’s half brothers speaks out
Posted: 9:44 PM
By: Christina Medina
“Everyone remember what i said about Jeremy’s treatment of his account being strategic?”
B
Yep.
“That’s ridiculous. Somepin’s up.”
B
Yep.
@Kimberly says:
October 27, 2011 at 9:37 am
If the link I posted above is true, (and I’m assuming it is), re: the neighbor watching DB’s kids while DB went to the store to buy wine,
THEN, how in the world does this make sense,
SNIP* 5 p.m. – Deborah seen on surveillance video purchasing box of wine, baby food, and baby wipes (initial reports were that she was purchasing box of wine, paper plates, and napkins
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/10/timeline-of-baby-lisa-case-by-isabelle.html
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Didn’t JI , himself tell us that he left for work @5:20?
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News report stated JI was home with the kids while DB went to the store iirc.
Michael Thompson (4am baby spotter) picked out a picture of the man he saw with a naked baby. The man in the picture was someone that has already been interviewed by LE.
http://news.yahoo.com/baby-lisa-irwin-case-huge-break-false-alarm-202200617.html
I doubt it was Jeremy. I say this because the other ‘baby spotters’ couldn’t make a match on any pictures they were shown. They state ‘the man appeared to be balding’. Jeremy is balding…the man identified in the picture probably has a full head of hair.
I’m thinking it was either DB’s brother or the homeless man. However, LE said earlier that they cleared the homeless man…
Asked who might take baby, one of Jeremy’s responses was “someone who cheated on her husb –“
And Lisa Irwin shook her head, no.
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What the hell does that mean?
link? First I am hearing that. Sounds like an accusation.
B
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Blink, yes it sounds like an accusation but at who? Deborah is the only one cheating on her husband here that we know of.
I found the quite in the linked transcripts that are sub-linked within the link Kimberly posted above:
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/10/timeline-of-baby-lisa-case-by-isabelle.html
Also in those sub-links, I learned that the Irwins have a black lab that never once sounded at the presence of the so called intruder. Not characteristic of a black lab.
My head is spinning, lol, I did not know about the lab, and not only that, the neighbor has a loud dog and the fence practically butts up against the Irwin home-
B
Asked who might take baby, one of Jeremy’s responses was “someone who cheated on her husb –“
And Lisa Irwin shook her head, no.
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What the hell does that mean?
link? First I am hearing that. Sounds like an accusation.
B
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Blink, yes it sounds like an accusation but at whom? Deborah is the only one cheating on her husband here that we know of.
I found the quite in the linked transcripts that are sub-linked within the link Kimberly posted above:
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/10/timeline-of-baby-lisa-case-by-isabelle.html
Also in those sub-links, I learned that the Irwins have a black lab that never once sounded at the presence of the so called intruder. Not characteristic of a black lab.
Lol, I just got a screen that said, You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
*Chuckle*
I find it interesting that none of the talking heads on TV are bringing up the height of the crib mattress….I wonder if it ever crossed Short’s mind after her tv tour.
twinkletoes says:
October 27, 2011 at 9:23 am
The body language of Deborah in the vidoes reminds me so much of Terri Horman when Kyron first went missing. The way she folds in against her husband with that look of despair on her face, seeking protection.
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I felt the very same thing. I would love to see a picture of those to scenes side by side. I also can’t stand that her hair now looks red.
Blink – here is a link regarding JI’s statement ‘someone who cheated on her husband’. The statement is about halfway through the article under the heading ‘Police search Irwin/Bradley home again’. I haven’t found anything that states DB shook her head no when he said this.
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/missing-1-week-update-missing-baby-lisa-irwin-case
Article also states “Last week Debbi sobbed during her interviews but hardly ever mentioned Lisa’s name, something Statement Analyst Peter Hyatt thinks is of importance.”
If anyone runs across a source for that statement that is quotable, I would appreciate it. If JI said that, it has to be quoted somewhere
B
New search happening today in a nearby pond.
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old
3. lyla says:
October 27, 2011 at 10:56 am
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Apologies to you and others.
I apparently am having a communication issue today. LOL
RE:3. lyla says:
October 27, 2011 at 10:56 am
News report stated JI was home with the kids while DB went to the store iirc.
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yes, I agree, I should have said, “just wondering which spin is correct”?
O/T – I thought I posted this on Tuesday but it seems to have been “lost in translation”… everyone PLEASE say prayers for a local 9 year old autistic boy that has been missing since Sunday afternoon. He was in the North Anna Battlefield park with his family and then wandered off and they have not been able to find him, the worst part, he is non-verbal and if he gets wet, he’s been known to shed his clothing, well around here the evenings have been in the 40′s which is always cooler in the deep dark woods. I have MANY friends showing up daily at Kings Dominion to search all day for him. A lot of us locals are thinking maybe there is more to the story now that it has been so long and no sign of him BUT we’re holding out hope… just some prayers for little Robbie Wood in VA would be great!
It seems like Jeremy is reaching for a story of what he found when he got home
That will make sense
I find it hard to believe him
“Liz (NY) says:
October 27, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Blink – here is a link regarding JI’s statement ‘someone who cheated on her husband’. The . . .”
I recall seeing it, but can’t recall if it was a quote, or find it again. When I first saw it, I thought he was accusing his first wife, Rasleen Raim. I did find her initial reactions odd as well, which probably led me to interpret JI’s partial comment as such.
“NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.
Ryan asked, “What did you think when you heard about the baby?”
“I thought about my boy, I thought it was mine,” Raim said.”
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/mother-of-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out#ixzz1c0WRA6B5
Excerpt from Foxnews.com article…
Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, had been trying to find “a balance in terms of understanding the needs of these children … and the need for law enforcement to have as much info as they can possibly get.”
Deborah can just stop with the I’m a concerned, compassionate mother act. She didn’t care about the needs of the children the night she was getting tanked on wine instead of parenting three young children. Her continued lies turn my stomach. She is looking out for number one; Deborah Bradley!
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/27/police-search-pond-for-missing-11-month-old-missouri-baby/#ixzz1c0XDd67A
Blink – I think I found it. It was in an interview by Judge Jeanine Pirro. This link from Yahoo discusses inconsistencies with the case including JI’s statement about cheating spouses.
http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-inconsistencies-piling-174800193.html
I had to clear my mind, and engage in a little self-hypnosis, but my recall is now that this was the interview where JI said something about “someone who cheated” but this clip cuts off before then, and I can’t find a more complete version. (Of course, that’s only as good as my over-the-hill memory, lol.) Clip interesting to watch again for other reasons, however, especially regarding the sequence of events when JI came home, and who was in what bed.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1208764392001/exclusive-parents-of-missing-baby-lisa-speak-out
I also should have added in my above post that I cannot find a full transcipt of the Judge Jeanine Pirro interview. I’m on my work computer and cannot watch the interviews. Once I get home I will find the interview and post a link…unless there’s anyone else out there that found it.
Unfortunately, the pond search was unsuccessful:
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old
Liz (NY) says:
October 27, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Blink – here is a link regarding JI’s statement ‘someone who cheated on her husband’. The statement is about halfway through the article under the heading ‘Police search Irwin/Bradley home again’. I haven’t found anything that states DB shook her head no when he said this.
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/missing-1-week-update-missing-baby-lisa-irwin-case
Article also states “Last week Debbi sobbed during her interviews but hardly ever mentioned Lisa’s name, something Statement Analyst Peter Hyatt thinks is of importance.”
If anyone runs across a source for that statement that is quotable, I would appreciate it. If JI said that, it has to be quoted somewhere
B
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Here’s the link referencing the above remarks from JI and DB.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1213192088001
My aging memory is vindicated!
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1213192088001
lol, heart u
B
“If anyone runs across a source for that statement that is quotable, I would appreciate it. If JI said that, it has to be quoted somewhere
B”
Here you go:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1213192088001/who-abducts-a-baby/
imo, regarding the statemnt analysis, JI’s comment heard in it’s proper context (as in the above video) is not suspicious.
Also don’t agree with the analysis that DB’s movement was her shaking her head no at that particular comment by JI.
jmo’s
My thoughts are it may have something to do with JI’s ex wife. Maybe she is the person whom he is referring to when he said “someone who is cheating on her husband”.
It could also be the neighbor DB drank with, DB’s husband’s (she is not divorced) current SO, DB’s brother’s wife, etc. ………….there are more possibilities than just DB.
I would think JI would not staunchly, publicly support DB if he thought she was cheating.
JMOO
Liz (NY) says:
October 27, 2011 at 12:12 pm
New search happening today in a nearby pond.
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old
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What is the reasoning behind scheduling/cancelling a media search in Lisa’s home. It’s an active crime scene!!! What gives?
If it were an active crime scene, nobody would be allowed in it, including the lawyer that was in it, the day the search ended. If that has changed, I would look to see LE back out there. I think it may be something else.
B
FYI…I believe someone was trying to find a link to an article from People magazine and was having a hard time finding it. Found this on SM. Hope it works…honestly, I can’t remember what the poster was referencing from it, but here it is (scanned) if anyone is wants to read!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12213.680
twinkletoes says:
October 27, 2011 at 11:49 am
“Also in those sub-links, I learned that the Irwins have a black lab that never once sounded at the presence of the so called intruder. Not characteristic of a black lab.”
Completely agree on the non-barking dogs and on the black lab from personal experience.
twinkletoes, you were asking if the neighbor has publicly said anything.
Nope, not a public peep from the female neighbor.
Been waiting on this since the mother brought it forth.
I believe this is her seen quickly at the -00:38 second mark, blonde with gray pants, sitting down with legs folded up, upset, in front of house next door to the Irwin’s (think that’s the husband sitting with the sunglasses and white t-shirt).
The video link doesn’t want to post (or even go into moderation at all) for some reason – - – might be the “fox4c”, so the 2 dashes I put in between the fox letters need to be taken out for the correct address link:
http://www.f-o-x4kc.com/news/wdaf-nieghbors-concerned-by-babys-disapperance-20111004,0,2274242.story
“Neighbors Concerned by Baby’s Disappearance”
October 4, 2011
@If anyone runs across a source for that statement that is quotable, I would appreciate it. If JI said that, it has to be quoted somewhere
B
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Here it is its in one of the Judge Pirro interviews with D&J & its at the 1:48 mark in the video. Straight from J’s mouth..
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1213192088001/who-abducts-a-baby/?playlist_id=163706
Here is a link to another Judge Pirro interview with D&J and at the 3:17 mark D talks about where the boys were sleeping etc.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1208764392001/exclusive-parents-of-missing-baby-lisa-speak-out/?playlist_id=163706
P.S. I think it was in that same interview that they discussed the baby monitor, dogs, and that they didn’t think someone could fit through that window. But I can’t find those parts.
Anyone else remember those parts?
@twinkletoes
Yes it was mentioned in an early article about the Lab & Megyn Kelly & J. Pirro both mention it when they did onsite shows outside the Irwin home. It appears the Lab is a senior dog & stays in the backyard most of the time (that bothered me) & the neighbor has a dog that is quite a barker according to Megyn Kelly.
This may be a repeat but this article mentions the black Lab that the Irwins own.
http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-inconsistencies-piling-174800193.html
Was Jeremy Irwin working alone, and the documentation that he was at Starbucks was a security camera? He’s an electrician, right? Or do he have co-workers to vouch for him continuously until 3:30 a.m. or so?
I have read the comment JI made about his suggestions on who may have had a reason to take baby Lisa as have others.
I was able to find this- not a direct quote-
They explained they considered everyone, especially those they knew who were either having marital problems, recently had a miscarriage and even friends they knew were cheating.
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/lisa-irwin%27s-reveal-new-details-about-night-baby-went-missing-
I don’t know who Judge Jeanine is but it is from an interview she did with mom and dad.
@ lizzy… Not sure if this is what you are looking for..
Here is the video of LE re-enactment of trying to go thru the window felt to be the entry point. Black bags on Lisa’s bedroom window I believe were put there perhaps by LE to prevent people from looking in or taking pics
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-police-stage-break-familys-home/story?id=14702680
@nana2, Thanks for trying.
Eventually, Blink will work her way back in time to the original posts for which the postscript was intended.
I’m looking for the part of the Judge Jeanine video in which JI and DB themselves discuss the dogs. I saw it; I know it exists; I can’t find it. It aired on October 8; Jeremy had on a blue shirt; Deborah had on a gray shirt with the number 14. I can find other clips from it, as Blink will eventually show are linked above (lol), but not the part about the dogs.
I can find references, but I’m looking to hear the words from their own mouths again. Thanks again for trying.
As a resident of the “Show Me State” (Missouri) I am deeply befogged (it’s a transitive verb meaning, to cover or hide something from view with fog) by the continuing embellishment, I’m sorry, I guess I meant to say development of the details of the supposed crime, the kidnapping of little Lisa Erwin. I sadly believe little Lisa (note I did not say “her” or “she”) is no longer with us. It has just been too long a time since her reported disappearance to think anything different. There are no clear leads and a lot a lot of befogging. I am so saddened and angered by the lack of regard for her well-being by the very people who ought to have cherished her precious existence, sheltered her from harm, and given their own lives for hers. I want to say them, “Shame on you,” but that is just not nearly enough emotional expression and/or representation to describe the ache I feel in my own heart. When are we going to end the genocide of the innocent, the systematic destruction of what those who indicate by their selfish repulsive actions,deem as “throw away children,” and/or “sacrificial victims?” These are rhetorical questions sincerely needing action-orientated answers. Past behavior is indicative of present and future behavior. Has anything “good” come forth concerning the parents? Shalom, Sharai
Does it ever happen to you, where your pointing device goes haywire, and so you got to network “node” deux, and in the middle of moderating it does the same thing.
I am telling you, Adelaide has found my house now. Lovely.
Coming right up friend, sorry.
B
Now it’s between 5 and 10 glasses of wine she consumed. I’m beginning to think Lisa Irwin may have died before or during the wine drinking episode. Something drove DB to get “dead drunk” that evening. I also wonder if she medicated her daughter (ala CA) to keep her asleep and something went awry. After that many glasses of wine her denial is falling on deaf ears.
“Bradley admitted in several interviews that she drank between five and 10 glasses of wine Oct. 3, the night Baby Lisa vanished. She told FOX News Channel’s Megyn Kelly it was possible she blacked out after drinking, but denied that anything could have happened to her daughter while she was drunk”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/27/police-search-pond-for-missing-11-month-old-missouri-baby/
-snipped-
Jeremy Irwin seemed to hint at this very theory when, in an interview, he was responding to the question: “who could’ve done this?” He answered: “Someone who cheated on her husb…….” At that moment he cut himself off as the mother and grandmother of the child both turned away.
http://www.articlesbase.com/criminal-articles/the-abduction-of-little-lisa-irwin-the-investigation-and-possible-explanations-5303626.html
From what I’ve researched, the comment is possibly hearsay or just false altogether. I wouldn’t be surprised if mommy dearest was cheatin on JI but there’s nothing to back that up as fact. It didn’t come from the horse’s mouth.
Wow. So many questions. I can’t wait for the boys to be interviewed. I believe baby Lisa died or was found dead at 10:30. And that is just my opinion. I wonder if the man walking with the baby was disposing of her. A baby in only a diaper at that time of night in that temperature doesn’t make any sense. I am assuming that they have solid proof dad (JI) was at work but I still don’t understand why no poly. I don’t believe the parents for the simple fact that they haven’t told the story with one consistency yet! JI keeps changing his story as much as Deborah, which makes me pretty sure he knows a heck of a lot more than he’s letting on. Poly him already. Another precious baby gone at the hands of the ones supposed to protect her.
“Ragdoll says:
October 27, 2011 at 5:22 pm
-snipped-”
If you go to the video I’ve linked above (at 2:17 pm when Blink finds it), you’ll see JI saying those words, but I don’t see DB or grandma turning away.
That whole story at the site you’ve linked is interesting, but a little too “creatively embellished” for my taste. Not adequately labeled as containing fictional components, imo.
I so owe you, lol.
If you come to my door for trick or treat, I will give you an extra Kraft single and a boullion cube.
ROTFL
B
@ragdoll.. From the horses mouth
Here it is its in one of the Judge Pirro interviews with D&J & its at the 1:48 mark in the video. Straight from J’s mouth..
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1213192088001/who-abducts-a-baby/?playlist_id=163706
Blink, don’t you know it’s halloweek. A lot of us are lurking in your office. We know that when it is time you will let us know.
Blink,
Do you have any thoughts at this stage you can share in regard to the “man with a baby” seen in the early morning?
Only that they cannot all be the same guy, which weakens the sightings, but I DO believe the dumpster fire is related to the case.
B
lol, you gotta give me that I’m persistent! Here are the two stuck-in-moderation posts, in case you can’t find them.
13. lizzy says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
October 27, 2011 at 12:53 pm
“Liz (NY) says:
October 27, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Blink – here is a link regarding JI’s statement ‘someone who cheated on her husband’. The . . .”
I recall seeing it, but can’t recall if it was a quote, or find it again. When I first saw it, I thought he was accusing his first wife, Rasleen Raim. I did find her initial reactions odd as well, which probably led me to interpret JI’s partial comment as such.
“NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.
Ryan asked, “What did you think when you heard about the baby?”
“I thought about my boy, I thought it was mine,” Raim said.”
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/mother-of-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out#ixzz1c0WRA6B5
14. lizzy says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
October 27, 2011 at 1:55 pm
I had to clear my mind, and engage in a little self-hypnosis, but my recall is now that this was the interview where JI said something about “someone who cheated” but this clip cuts off before then, and I can’t find a more complete version. (Of course, that’s only as good as my over-the-hill memory, lol.) Clip interesting to watch again for other reasons, however, especially regarding the sequence of events when JI came home, and who was in what bed.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1208764392001/exclusive-parents-of-missing-baby-lisa-speak-out
They are all up, but now they are fresh, lol!
B
Thanks lizzy for the video- I thought I had seen it rather than just read it. One thing I note, DB certainly jumps at any opportunity anyone proposes as a possibility to the cause of baby Lisa’s abduction.
The entire family, imo, has a deer in the headlight look. That is one thing CMA never had- straight up mistruths without a blink of an eye.
No offense to you Blink.
NBCActionNews NBC Action News
JUST IN | Police say Lisa Irwin’s family attorney has canceled Friday’s interview with Lisa’s half-brothers pub.vitrue.com/61c
2 minutes ago
http://twitter.com/#!/NBCActionNews
Notice In the Fox video with judge Jeanine, DB states without hesitation and matter of fact, “I turned all the lights off before I went to bed’ in another Interview with Megan Kelly she said “well I may have of turned the lights off I’m not sure my neighbour said i did”,…. but basically admitting she had had 5 or so glasses so wasn’t sure if they were off. Such a change of tune. I can find that interview if anyone wants it.