Read If You Have The Stomach For It: Johnathan Ramsey’s Hell On Earth And Why The Ramseys Better Be Charged With Murder
Dallas, Tx- Home of The Cowboys! Death knell of 11 year old Johnathan Ramsey.
Johnathan Ramsey was the apple of nobody’s eye. In fact, he likely would have killed to have an actual apple.
His Father Aaron and stepmother Elizabeth starved the young boy by feeding him military rations until he was so gaunt he could not even eat that. He began eating his own feces.
According to police records, Aaron Ramsey confessed to limiting the boy’s meals to bread, water and sometimes milk, and confining him to his bedroom in the family’s Dallas home, the Dallas Morning News reported. The boy eventually stopped being able to walk and began to eat his own feces, police said.
It was not until his paternal grandfather, Edward Ramsey, who regularly called to speak to Johnathan and request to see him, began calling police out of concern that ANYONE bothered to look into this child’s whereabouts.
By March he was pretty clear he was getting the runaround and called detectives for help.
Detectives think Johnathan has been dead since August after being slowly starved to death for about a year.
Aaron Ramsey admitted finding his son lying “unresponsive” on the floor of his bedroom but denies causing his death.
He said he placed his body in a sleeping bag and dumped it in the storm shelter of an empty house nearby. He later buried it in a wooded area.
Aaron allegedly put him in his favorite t shirt and stuffed a dryer sheet in the sleeping bag to hide the smell.
What a guy.
Aaron Ramsey is a veteran. He does not appear to have missed many meals, nor does his wife.
I imagine a lifetime of three hots and a cot will cure the both of them of their ability to take from anyone ever again.
What is believed to the remains of young Johnathan Ramsey have been discovered and sent for autopsy.
Police searching for the body of missing 11-year-old Johnathan Ramsey have found skeletal remains that appear to be those of a child or small adult in a rural creek south of Dallas.
Johnathan had a brother, whom his Mother took to live with him in New Mexico when she divorced his Father in 2006.
Talk about drawing the short straw. This kid did nothing but, it seems.
Judy Ramsey Williams remarried and has not seen Johnathan in several years. Williams step mom Starla said it was not economically feasible given the 14 hour drive and Aaron was unwilling.
Aaron and Elizabeth Ramsey are currently facing felony injury to a child charges.
If they are not upgraded to murder I know a few Texans.
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I see Johnathan in heaven with the puppy he always wanted. God bless this little boy. I can’t imagine what he endured. WTH is wrong with all of these people?
Hello Blink and Blinksters. It is so hard in fact to read this report, but for the love to this little boy the word has to know
how much he had to endure. Poor Johnathan.. No words can express this cruelty.
So the Ramsey are only charged with felony injury to a child. How can that be??? Why does the district attorney not charge them with murder? Did their attorney handle out a deal?
At the time, Johnathan had not been recovered and they had no way to know for certain or corroborate he was in fact deceased. I expect the charges to be upgraded as soon as a positive ID is made.
Jail is a resort compared to what I think these two deserve, God forgive me for my anger.
B
These kind of stories make me sick and question humanity. Bless this child and all others enduring suffering as a result of the people who are supposed to be caring and loving them. Johnathan is no longer suffering; the only consolation to this horrid story.
Agreed. I am so heartbroken this child and his situation seemed to have gone unnoticed by all for so long.
B
How do these people sit and eat, knowing they are starving a child in the next room? Hell does not burn hot enough for these two. I would love to be on the jury.(or the firing squad)
I wonder if Johnathan was in regular school the year prior and if teachers or school administrators observed any neglect during that time. I can’t imagine what these vile human beings have been doing with their lives since they murdered this precious boy. To discard of his body this way and just go on is hard to comprehend.
How is it no one else, including the mother, but friends, neighbors, etc. could have not noticed something was amiss.
So sad to think of the horrible days, weeks and months of torture this child endured…agree with Blink, charges need to be upgraded to murder.
IMO – We really need a national initiative, like the Bullying issue campaigns, to put a stop to the mistreatment of innocent children. If we had PSA’s running that informs parents of an outlet or counseling/assistance in giving up their children. Calling out to parents that do these things and asking questions to the masses may tap into the consciences of some of these parents. So many of these kids could be saved, even after neglect and abuse, by being allowed to live with other relatives or foster families BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
Un freaking believable. These two just bypassed the C word on my list of most wasted space on this earth. If they are not charged with murder and locked away for life, as the death penalty would be too easy, i’ll volunteer to re-locate to Texas for a few days.
I did not include the info in the piece because I did not believe it, but his father actually told police that he began punishing him because he punched his stepmom in the gut forcing a miscarriage.
What an utter crock. When they were separated by police and interviewed, this woman continued on the “he was very naturally thin and did not eat much, what could we do?
Kudos to law enforcement for getting this one right, and God rest his little soul.
B
Right on Blink – clearly these pigs haven’t missed a square meal once in their lives. Why, why, why do that to a child?
“Judy Ramsey Williams remarried and has not seen Johnathan in several years. Williams step mom Starla said it was not economically feasible given the 14 hour drive and Aaron was unwilling.”
Unwilling to do what? To meet her halfway? To let her see him at all?
You mean to tell me that a mother couldn’t find SOME WAY in several YEARS???? to MAKE it feasible to see her child? YEARS???? I find that hard to believe. As far as Aaron unwilling …if he was UNWILLING to arrange visits to his son from his ex-wife- the court should have been contacted. And IF they were contacted – this is where this little boy was failed. Our child support/services needs to do more to protect children.
As far as this poor little boy resorting to eating his own feces. God willing – his step mother and father will be eating their own sh*t one day too. It’s called Karma. What goes around comes back around.
<3 May you rest in peace Johnathan <3
OOOh what an update it will be when we are able to learn that these two evil beings are tried, convicted and put in jail and the inmates learn exactly what they did to this poor child! Don’t always believe in “an eye for an eye” but where a child is concerned I really wish that whatever someone does to a child to harm/kill one that it could be done back to them!
Blink – I read the father’s accusation as well regarding the punching Elizabeth in the stomach and causing the miscarriage. I was going to mention it in an earlier post and decided against it as I, too, do not believe it. The picture shown above is not one of a child able to inflict that type of harm. I believe the father is lying! If he believes this to be true and this was “just” punishment, then he should endure the same for what he did to Johnathan!!!
I tripped and fell hard flat on my stomach while pregnant for my youngest son and even though I was terrified for him, an immediate ultrasound proved he was safe. The technician told me it happens all the time and rarely is there any damage to an unborn child.
The father is trying to provide an excuse as justification for his cruetly — what a sick man he is!
Kudos to Grandpop Edward for coming forward. I cannot imagine how it must feel to know your son killed your grandbaby. God Bless him for trying and ultimately exposing this mess so Johnathan could be recovered and given a proper burial.
B
I can not believe that grown adults can eat and feed themselves without thinking of others (their own childrens needs first) And most responsible men that care anything about their flesh and blood child would only look to a woemn that would take better care of his child than he could, most woemn i know would feel obligated to take a child of a mans as her own if she was interested in thew man to begin with…Hell on earth is right…this must truly be what we ar eexperiencing here….i am ashamed that i call Texas my home along side these two varments…they are worse than the varments of our state. What a disgrace to society…if they didnt want the child they could have simply given him to placement agency or adoption agency…dropped him off at a fire station….as horrible as that sounds…a child isnt really that much of an expense if you think about all the other expenses family units have…especially if it is already in existance…the parents looke dlike they have not missed many meals…but that is just it…they were not putting their childs needs above their own and to admit they couldnt care for the child ( or mor elike they didnt want to) it would have had to have them persoanlly admit faults of their own and having them admit they just didnt want to deal with accepting resposibility, they cared more about what people would think of them giving them up to someone else than, the premeditated this to the point they THOUGHT they wouldnt get caught so no one would think less of them for not having him…they cared more about appearances then they did about respsosibility…Poor child….this baby had no chance with those two….even in a hard ass for a father case, usually a female will take up and nurture the needs a child…back when i didnt have children….I always stood up for the kiddos and always tended to them…..i didnt understand them becasue i wasnt around much…but if a child needs something…YOU get it for them. they are blessings from GOD, not toys or accessories for our entertainmnet and enjoyment…they are a resposibility….I really wish GOD doesnt show mercy on their soules….these two horrible creatures of whatever it is they are, dont deserve to share earth with me and the rest of us GOD fearing souls let alone to be called a mother or a father, THEY ARE NOT! GOD bless this sweet little boy..i am truly sorry your family let you down…..RIP Little man.
It occured to me the other morning that Casey Anthony can still reproduce. We have a long way to go in terms of giving our vulnerable-citizens equal rights with other citizens. As we speak there are about thirty protesters outside my office building because Planned Parenthood is downstairs and it happens to be Tuesday (abortion day). While I respect their constitutional rights to do so, it turns my stomach that no one is outside of the legislative buildings holding signs showing the faces of these murdered children, demanding greater protection for those children who are here, who are unwanted, who are tortured by the very people who are supposed to care for them.
Twinkle I could not agree more. Just one person stepping in before it was too late could have saved this child.
I recall a few years ago a birthday party for Blinkette. It was large and people were inside and out running around. My Dad pulled me aside and asked me how well we knew the neighbors to one side- that the kids just came out to play in their backyard and he felt they looked very pale and unhealthy.
The young son would play ball outside on occasion, but I rarely saw the little girl and he was right.
He asked Blinkette to go over to the fence and ask her if they wanted to come over and have a bite to eat or some cake and play water balloons with the other kids. They politely declined saying they were leaving shortly but she insisted they have some cake so she brought them 2 slices over the fence, lol.
My Dad was up in my room (best view) watching the whole thing, he wanted a better look.
My point. My neighbors kids are perfectly healthy, but pale and the little girl reflected her Mom’s coloring which was somewhat albino in appearance. My Father, took the time to research his concern for what appeared to be a sickly child who turned out to be fine, but at his granddaughters birthday party with our entire families all over the joint, kids running everywhere, he got involved.
Is the issue that as a society there are not enough people paying attention and willing to show concern for strangers kids?
I am very proud of my Father, he is the best man I will ever know, but I am not sharing this as an ode to him, I am giving an example of what I think is lacking overall.
I remember a conversation with Blink Jr one time where a parent was loudly verbally abusing their child, and once they hit the parking lot, she smacked him on the back, then butt and pulled him up and into the cart by the arm. It is a family giggle at how much I hate going to Sam’s and yet I am there at least once a week out of necessity. I pay the extra fee so I can go at 7:30AM with virtually nobody around, lol. I have issues, I know.
Blink Jr asked me why I did not say something to the lady that was mean to her kid and tell her to stop hurting him.
I explained to him that confronting a parent in that situation could make things worse for the child immediately, so I wrote down the license plate and reported the matter to CPS privately.
He was right, I vacillated between intervening directly and just standing there with a clearly astonished and disapproving posture.
I am going to recommend the new show with Kiefer Sutherland Touched for people that need further examples of what a difference life’s intersections can make.
I am sorry Johnathan was not my neighbor.
I would have took this little boy into my home…doesnt take much to entertain a 11 year old…go to the movies, join a church (there is always activities in church groups) go to a water park or SIX flags in Dallas….travel to San Antonio and go see the alamo, go see the caves and ride the river of new brunsfel…or just take the kid and a friend or two to the movies or the mall or something cool and fun…boat show, car show, festivals….there are so many low cost things to do with kids…it is ashame these two (whatever they are) could not take time or a little money out of the funds to care for this child…and IF this child did (highly unlikely) cause the miscarriage of a unborn fetus..there were probably problems in the home to begin with ….how on earth does one bring a child in to this world when they dont even care for the one they have….he obviously was suffering from some kind of behavior or mental abuse.. the dad admits he was abusing him by punishing him for a year for something the child obviously would have never understood, he is a child….DADDY DEAREST, your excuse is not going to work, so what if he did…hypathetically in theory lets just say he did cause a miscarriage…DOES STARVING A CHILD CONSTITUTE that kind of punishment… in this theory, you just opened up the possibility of a mental health issue with a child that was a 11 you just openly admited you ignored..that is denying a child medical treatment and then punishing a child for your mistake, i say it is all your fault for neglecting this child and denying this child. Premeditated murder, you think by starving a child to death makes it less of a crime then shooting him in cold blood.. no it just makes you more of a monster! YOU CREDANT DISGUST OF THE HUMAN RACE.
If Johnathan did cause a miscarriage,(again highly unlikely)with what we see now this little boy was dealing with here on earth…. he was probably doing this unborn child/fetus a favor…how would he have known he would have been the sacrificial offering in the process. This little boy saved that unborn child of the hell he was experiencing and not even knowing it…He sacrificed himself.. this boy is an Angel. RIP little sweet Cherub, you were before your time in so many ways…..you are beautiful in the eyes of the Lord and in heaven where you belong!
Based on the father’s statement that this was punishment for what he alleges Johnathan did, this should be 1st Degree Murder as it was not a single act of overpunishing a child with a whipping or throwing him into a wall, etc, it waslong term torture. These monsters chose every day for months to torture this child…how can that not be premeditated and intentional?
Do you know when this alleged miscarriage occured?
Kudos to the Grandpop for sure!
I don’t but I expect to see the divide and save your hide defense from the woman that she was battered and just doing what she was told. Effers.
B
These so called parents take the cake, and from the looks of them they did not miss a meal. Oh my heart weeps for the way this little fellow was treated. Those low-life scanks-I hope they suffer!
There is no excuse for these creatures-
What is wrong with these people and people like them who have no trouble in reproducing and then do everything in their power to kill their children??!!!
Birth control has never been more reasily available …but rather than an abortion or giving up a child for adoption, they choose an unbelievably cruel way to starve this child to death.
While the grandfather deserves praise for his efforts …the child is still dead. Didn’t Jonathan go to school? Why did no one have a sense of urgency about finding this little boy before we’re just looking for his corpse.
It’s beyond disgusting …and I don’t know if the appropriate, – printable on this site – word exists to describe this case.
As always, Blink, thanks for reporting on this case and making sure that Jonathan is not just a statistic.
Another little angel to add to the prayer list!
After a few days of our 8 year old (daughter) coming home from school starving, upon a little prying we have discovered that she has been giving away most if not all of the lunch we send her with to a classmate who is always “starving”…My wife actually started nearly doubling my daughters lunch(to feed this little girl) before I found out(and I was furious) and we went to the school to report that this little girls home situation had to be investigated…sad world!
I am all for child advocacy. Not getting involved is the worse offense if you suspect something is not right. It’s better to err on the side of caution. It takes a license to get married, drive a car, hunt, fish, on and on. But, the most important job in the world, being a parent, there are no licenses to be had. It is disgusting that two people could treat their own child in this sick demented manner. Keep your eyes and ears open and as Blink recommends if you don’t confront them head-on then make the call to your local Children’s Services office to report what you see. BTW, this type of abuse doesn’t just happen to our children, but to the disabled and elderly, they need advocates, too.
In respect to the police and local officials, i ask one question…why is it that local agencies do not have the resoruces filtered down fromt he state to help find thise children alive oppose the Federal government has the resoruces to try and convict these cases when they reach federal court systems… are our syastems that ar emeant to come together…divided…all levels of government needs to collectively come together for the common welfare of our future generations…too many children are suffering at the expense of their parents… and worse Sex offenders that have no business onthe streets to begin with..why are they walking and roaming our streets waiting on opportunity to reoffend…Double conviction rates for prosecutioners and a waste of resources…we know criminals will reoffend…I say stiffer penalties for crimes against family and children.
I have military and police in my family….i cant say there are good cops are bad cops..i just cant formthe words to state the phrase….it is wrong to say some are good and some are bad….in reality we know there are both…but in respectful terms i would like to say….our local police departments and the true advocates in those departments usually are beating dead horses when it comes to criminals…most of them know who the reoffenders are inthe community but because of our laws and the way the laws work , they get a too many chances…it overworks the cops and drains resources….hats off to our heros out there fighting crime with the white hats on….My children are never scared of the police…YOU will never hear me telling my kids the cops will get you if you dont sit down and behave…i want my children to know the police are our friends!! I only want them to fear them if they do something criminal as it should be…
Thanks to Blink Junior for the excellent question!
Why can we not signal each other, if there are other witnesses to child abuse, group up, and say “Let’s Roll,” like Todd Beamer on Flight 93, internally praying for guidance. The “Roll” is not to personally confront anyone, ever.
Naturally, there are safety issues to consider. But what if a woman and her son witnessed an event, went to the manager and gathered several employees, including loss prevention/security, who could observe the perpetrator’s whereabouts while police were en route?
Surely there are security cameras inside and outside a high-volume, discount warehouse store. (I know for a fact that spotters with binoculars are posted outside those stores at pre-opening (no customers in store) and closing, while tills and high-ticket items are being secured.) If they go to that much trouble, there is definite video surveillance in place.
If the store doesn’t cooperate, call 911. A crime has occurred.
And how I wish I had done exactly that during several experiences of the same sort of crime. I’m ashamed I didn’t.
For me, it’s time to make a change and make a plan. Thank you, Mr. Blink Junior. I needed that.
Jonathon,
I am so sorry this happened to you. You were a very, very brave boy to suffer what Daddy and Elizabeth did to you. This is not the way it is other families and it was very wrong. I hope all the angels are giving you lots of hugs and puppies and kittens and all the healthy food you want to eat. You are free now, Sweet Jonathon. I love you.
Another fail, by his family and the system. A child Johnathan’s age should have been in school or have a homeschool document on file with the state. Someone, somewhere in the educational system should have known a child was in that home and was not in school. After absenteeism the system should have been at the home asking where the child was and why he wasn’t in school. Even if the family was moving around there should have been documentation about his existence somewhere. This is so, so sad. Three hots and a cot are too luxurious for the two adults. They are pathetic pieces of crap. IMO the tale of the little boy making the woman miscarry is a complete lie.
Good fathers and grandfathers are always on the alert for things that go on in families that are not good. Blink’s father was instantly on the alert in the story she told.
It is just too bad that this little one’s grandfather was not able to or chose not to intervene and save this child.
Children from good homes are also alert to the behavior of poor parents in how they interact with children. Lifting a child by a single arm or shoulder in anger is a good way to permanently injure them. Kudos to Blink Jr. for noticing and making a comment. Also to Blink and family for teaching him properly.
There may be one or two times in a childs life that physical punishment as a swat on the backside is appropriate, but love and understanding along with examples of good behavior are far more effective.
These biological creators and non-parents, these destructive torturers of a child, need to have the strongest charges that the DA can support applied to this case.
Blink,
Don’t kill me but I do not understand the kudos for Grandpop.
Where was HE??? He is Johnathan’s Grandfather. Why didn’t he go to
his son’s house and demand to see his Grandson??? I KNOW my son’s grandfather would
be over here in a heartbeat if he had not seen him for a period of time. Grandpop waited how long?
Almost a year? I do not understand. He let his Grandson down also. You don’t keep calling and asking
for Johnathan and never see him. He should have gone over there to find out what
was going on. Didn’t he want to see Johnathan? My son’s Grandfather would not go months
without seeing his grandchildren!! The maternal step grandmother called and wanted to see
Johnathan also. She filed with the court to be able to see him. If she wanted to see him so much
why didn’t she go to him? The FAMILY did not want to see him that much. In my opinion all of
them made minimum effort. Not one family member actually went to the door and asked to see Johnathan. The whole family let Johnathan down. It was too much trouble to physically go see him-only
a phone call.The whole family let him down. It makes me so sad…..
I do not know his personal fitness situation or the family dynamic. I am of the limited opinion that he worked through what he could and asked for help when he became concerned. People can be VERY manipulative so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt while encouraging others in a similar position to act now.
B
I meant to add Grandpop’s quote, “It was hard, but you don’t want to put too much pressure.”
He did not want to put too much pressure on his son regarding Johnathan’s whereabouts.
Word Girl…Spot on…I agree
Oh man I agree 110% TexasGrandfather….DA needs to leverage the highest and strongest charges available. too many of these parents are getting off with a slap and then it sets the precedence for future offenders to OFF their own children and not worry about getting into trouble….who are these creeps anyways, where do these people come from…sad but i can answer my own question..they are people intertwined into our society and look like you and me… i cringed when i wrote that…THEY ARENT LIKE US…they are monsters…in sheeps clothing…..they dont look like monsters…It is so so sad these lil children fall victim to these perps…and we try to teach our children of all the disguises.
Blink:
The appropriate charge is capital murder, under the Texas terrorist threat provision for both these humans. Texans are pretty good at meeting out the appropriate punishment for convictions under capital murder. Perhaps your God will forgive you. Texas will help limit your waiting to find out.
If only Montana would follow the lead…
Nice to see you friend, and thanks
B
Oh, Blink. What a horrific end to a beautiful innocent child’s life. There are no words.
The question all of you are asking about an upgrade in charges is one that I once asked my DH when a similar heinous crime was committed against a child in our state. He indicated that Murder and Serious Bodily Injury to a Child are both felonies of the 1st Degree, and carry the same range of punishment in Texas (life, or any term of not more than 99 years or less that 5 years in prison). He assures me that felony serious bodily injury to a child is much easier to prove to a jury than murder, hence we see this charge filed often in such cases. Texas juries generally do not show mercy for defendants who harm children, especially if that harm results in the death of the child.
If one reads the Texas statute, this alleged offense as reported by the media does not rise to the level of a capital felony which is punishable by death or life in prison without parole. Here’s the link to the statute (note that if a child under the age of six is murdered, one can file):
http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/19.03.00.html
So, to use this as any example – if an eight year old is kidnapped and murdered, the perp would be charged with a capital felony, with only two sentencing options: life without parole or death (if the DA had decided to pursue the death penalty).
Or, if a mom murders one of her children who is under age six, a capital felony charge can be filed. Darlie Routier is an example of this. Although both her sons, Damon and Devon, were murdered, she was charged with only one count of capital murder of her five year old, Damon. She received the death penalty.
Since there are two defendants in this case who were allegedly with Johnathan at or about the time of his death, the finger pointing will soon begin (likely already has)….or we’ll hear the battered wife syndrome defense for the stepmother. Imo, no dice.
Grace is right, somewhat unfortunately. It was one of the failures of the prosecution of Casey Anthony- she was overcharged for what the prosecution could prove.
Imo they tortured this child, for well over a year, and I am still very unclear how nobody intervened or seemed to raise the question of his failing health.
B
I hope there is a special place in hell for demons like these.
29. joeamerica says:
April 24, 2012 at 11:57 pm
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I agree, if there was a terrorist threat. Do you have a link that indicates there was?
If only people would take the time and pay attention. Maybe this little boy could have been saved. He is now in a much better place.
Blink, I love the show “Touch”, it really makes you think about those connections and what happens if you ignore them. I tend to always go with what my gut is telling me. You just never know how you might help if you simply take the time.
I don’t think I related this story on here yet-but if I did, forgive the duplicate!
A couple months ago, I was leaving my local Walmart (hardly ever go there, hate it!), when I noticed a little boy in the fancy SUV parked next to me. It was 11 pm-pitch dark out. I sat in my car, craning my neck, desperately hoping to see an adult in that car. I was trying to figure out if an adult was perhaps laying reclined in one of the seats. The boy started looking nervous since I was so obviously trying to see inside his vehicle.
I got out of my car and walked around to the other side of the car, the windows were slightly tinted, so hard to see inside, but I was not seeing anyone but the boy (who appeared to be about 8-10 years old).
Got back in my car and weighed the options. Call 911 and report a child left alone in a car (what are the current laws for that?). Ignore it and drive away hoping that it would be okay? Sit in my car for however long it took for an adult to come back to the car? That would be a weird self-imposed babysitting job for an adult I already didn’t like.
But I chose to wait a bit anyway, there I sat, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes-then I got pissed off. Too long and too scary for that kid in the car-I called 911. I spoke to an officer and he asked the age of the child which I related to him. I asked him what the law says-was it under 12 cannot be left alone? The officer said “I don’t know exactly what the law says for that”.
Seriously? WTF!!! He asked me what I wanted them to do-I said I wanted someone to come and check it out and asked what would happen to the parent. He said it would depend on the officer IF an officer chose to respond at all! I said “This is Walmart at 11 pm at night-it’s not safe”.
So, as I was still speaking to the officer, a really PO’d looking woman walked up to the car with the boy. I had my window rolled down and she looked at me and yelled, “Minding your business, are you?”
I stared at her and said “No-I am NOT minding my business because you left a small boy in a car alone, outside a Walmart-at night. That is not safe.”
She said, “whatever” and jumped in her car and I told the officer I needed to go now, as she was really mad at me and I thought it safer to get out of there at that point.
I don’t know what happened after that. But at least I knew, when I left, that an adult was with the little guy. And I hope, that the next time she thinks about leaving him alone-she will remember what I said about being safe.
There wasn’t much else I could do-except think some really nasty thoughts about her as I drove home.
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….I am going to recommend the new show with Kiefer Sutherland Touched for people that need further examples of what a difference life’s intersections can make.
I am sorry Johnathan was not my neighbor.
Leave it to me to get the show name wrong, thanks Zeus
You did exactly the right thing, there is no excuse for leaving a child that age unattended in a car at any time of day.
B
B
Here is another thing I do not understand. How can the mom of Baby Lisa be eluding at least child neglect charges when she admits she was too drunk to have any recollection of what happened to her child? How is that not criminal negligence? When a kid goes missing on your watch, you better have a good excuse–not “I was drunk”. What the hell?
I believe because it would preclude charges potentially should baby Lisa be found, when the clock starts there is no turning back. I also think that LE missed an oppty by not realizing she was drunk at the scene ( if she was) so “drunk” becomes subjective.
I do not believe a word that comes out of that woman’s mouth and never have.
B
zuse
Thanks for your story. You did the right thing. You also learned something about the response LE in your area are trained to give regarding such problems. This will not change until most of the public are willing to do just what you did.
IMO the woman you observed lives her life for herself only. The children are just a burden. She probably punished the child for attracting attention when she got home.
Blink you are so right when you say he was the apple of no one’s eye. There are thousands of children who mean nothing to no one and are so incredibly vulnerable because of it. I can’t understand how a mother can take one child with her and leave the other behind. We all thought Sophie’s Choice was something no mother could bear to do but this woman did it voluntarily. Same thing Jeffrey Dahmer’s mother did to him. I don’t think a kid can ever get over that.
I want to ask you why you don’t cover the murder of Jonathan Foster last year in Houston. This one is tearing me apart and no one ever mentions it. It hurts because I can’t bear to think that this boy, who was forgotten for so long by his mother and then killed on Christmas eve shortly after they were reunited, is again being forgotten. Is there any way you can look into what is happening with this case? They have the suspect, Mona, in jail but I haven’t heard anything about a trial. Bless you for all that you do for kids.
Dee I will do my best, but I am backlog central right now.
B
Blink, thank you for giving a voice to this sweet innocent boy.
He will be missed now by many – I hope Heaven is everything God promised it would be – Johnathan surely deserves an eternity of love and happiness.
RIP Johnathon
Well said Mom3.0. Because of Blink, there are many Blinksters who now know of him, they grieve and remember Johnathan and pray for him…I wish I’d have known him and been able to let him know he IS loved.
RIP Johnathan.
Dee says:
April 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Blink you are so right when you say he was the apple of no one’s eye.
I want to ask you why you don’t cover the murder of Jonathan Foster last year in Houston. This one is tearing me apart and no one ever mentions it. It hurts because I can’t bear to think that this boy, who was forgotten for so long by his mother and then killed on Christmas eve shortly after they were reunited, is again being forgotten. Is there any way you can look into what is happening with this case? They have the suspect, Mona, in jail but I haven’t heard anything about a trial. Bless you for all that you do for kids.
Dee I will do my best, but I am backlog central right now.
B
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Dee, I’ve followed the case as well. The Harris County DA’s office charged Mona Yvette Nelson with Capital Murder in the kidnapping and murder of Jonathan Foster in early 2011. It generally takes about a year (or more) from the date of indictment to trial in a capital case in Harris County. The last I heard was that the trial is set to begin May 7, 2012. So, if you read the Houston Chronicle you will soon learn much more about this case. Personally, the details of the case are so horrific (LE at the scene wept) that I don’t want to know the specifics. If this woman is indeed the perpetrator, I just want a successful conviction and an appropriate sentence.
Believe me when I say Jonathan has not been forgotten, nor will he ever be. Jonathan’s case has been mentioned in other blogs and websites so many people are aware and will be following the trial. LE who were/are involved in his case have treated Jonathan as one of their own since day one of the case. Connie Spence, a seasoned Assistant District Attorney, was assigned to the case at the beginning, and I assume she still is. She is a talented prosecutor who is very passionate in her pursuit of justice for victims. She will give it her all.
In Loving Memory of Jonathan Foster is a Facebook page that was set up for him. I suspect when the trial starts his page will become quite active.
God bless your caring and compassionate heart.
Graceinthemtharhills:
Thanks for your question. Sorry, as I should have included in earlier post. Texas allows for capital murder under several caveats including murder associated with commission of a terrorist threat. From Texas code the relevant section:
Sec. 22.07. TERRORISTIC THREAT. (a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:
(2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury.
The crime committed here by these two individuals clearly goes far beyond neglect or wanton disregard, instead this is a case of deliberate and pre-meditated murder of the most heinous kind, additionally the means utilized in this killing constituted not only threat of imminent serious bodily injury (or death) but the preservation of exactly that threat for as long as possible for the effect of maximum torture.
Most states wouldn’t have the fortitude to make the case. I strongly expect that Texas might.
Dee, I don’t know if you are a member at ScaredMonkey but Johnathon’s case was followed there and you can do some reading if you like. I hope this link works.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9202.0
joeamerica says:
April 26, 2012 at 12:54 am
Graceinthemtharhills:
Hi Joe, I live in Texas, work in the forensic system, and am married to a former career prosecutor so I am unfortunately all too familiar with the statute. I have not read that the DA has any plans to upgrade to capital felony status. I was actually asking if you had a link that indicated the DA was considering upgrading. Texas had has some truly heinous child “neglect” type murders and has generally charged them as first degree felonies as the DA did in this case. That being said, some Texas prosecutors are very fond of death qualified juries when appropriate, so you never know.
P.S. And how did you know I actually live in them thar hills?
They believe they have found this sweet boy. Please upgrade charges!
Its obvious we need to change the penal codes of Texas..lets say capital murder for any child under the age of 13…after the age of 12 you are considers a young adult…teens can be more manipulative and start thinking outside the box…( i am not saying youngers kids arent capable) but most children start growing up truly around 12-13 i say that without really relizing what i am saying being Native Texan..Why is it set at 6 years of age?? What is a few years that makes it better verses different…so it is less of a charge to kill a child above 6 yrs of age oppose to capital murder charges afte r6 yrs of age..is there more murders against younger children and how is age make the offense different? i cant understand this point. i read that penal code 4 times and understand every level of it and can imagine the reasons…but not the age set on children.
Can I just ask, how do they know he was eating his own feces? Did the parents come forward and share that info with someone? If another family member knew about this, why was it not reported to authorities earlier? I remember the book “a boy called IT” and he had a similar story of lifelong abuse. It is truly hard to fathom that people can behave this way.
This is truly a horrific act, we should all be thankful for those we have who love us and support us for who we are or who we aspire to be. Bless your family Blink!!
Absolutely.
Our children and families deserve our best efforts. That includes advocacy for those that may not have such advantages.
Bless You and Your Family, and I hope your challenges are slight in comparison.
B
These parents…..there’s a pattern of guilt they don’t even know they’re admitting too….
“I had nuthin to do with his/her death…I found them unresponsive, that’s all’, yet, they’re ALWAYS compelled to hide the body. They’re ALWAYS involved with the disposing of their cherubs remains….like common trash. It’s time we recognize these confessions as text book admission to involvement.
The murder of children at the hands of the ones who are meant to protect them, is becoming pandemical. That’s not even a word but I’m so dam angry at these beastly minions. ‘I want to hit someone… I want to them hard’ <—– M'Lynn, Steal Magnolias
FriendLY,
Reading your response to Twinkles wrt Miss Blinkettes bday and the neighbour children…..
Long comment short, your paw paw and momma were so instrumental in WHO you have become. I get why you do what you do, now. So many of us protect ourselves from pain, we reject involvement. If we only accepted the pain from helping those who need it, breeds great love and mercy. It saves lives!
Thank you for sharing. There’s always something I come away with from BOC that makes me strive to be more involved….with my family, community. I find myself no longer afraid of getting involved if I’m ‘suspicious’. I’d rather look stupid than carry regret for the rest of my life. My target group seems to be reckless teens. It may or may not make a difference. I hope I’m setting a positive example, is all.
I tip my hat to your parents….and to mine….and to all those who gently impressed upon their children and grandchildren by being true to who they are and their convictions. What a different world this would be if we all succumbed to such virtue.
@ragdoll
Thank you kindly. I agree.
Image being so hungery that you eat your own feces. Image lying on a cold floor all alone and no one to comfort you while you lay their dying. I pray that God comforted this little guy. My heart breaks for all these little children that have known nothing but pain and suffering.
Ragdoll
We will have an ugly world for our children and grandchildren until all parents follow the guidelines spoken in your last paragraph.
This will take a lot of work on everyone’s part. Each step toward goodness is a step in the right direction. I am glad that you are no longer afraid to get involved with teenagers. All of them need the value systems that a mature loving adult can share.