Isabel Celis Missing Breaking News: Investigation Focuses on Celis Relative “Uncle” Justin Mastromarino- Cousin Is Also Former Houseguest
Tucson, AZ- Missing Since the early morning hours of Saturday April 21st from the window of her bedroom allegedly, the search for 6 year old Isabel Mercedes Celis has taken a turn toward her family.
"Playing Uncle" Photo from FB
On the heels of the appearance of Sergio and Becky Celis first public interview this morning on the Today show, sources inside the investigation have confirmed that Pima County detectives are scrutinizing the prior arrest and prior living arrangements of Justin Mastromarino, Isabel’s cousin. Although Justin was the initial spokesperson for the family immediately after Isabel’s disappearance, he dropped out of sight when investigators could not exclude him as a person of interest.
Mastromarino lived with the Celis family for some time in 2011. The image below was taken in front of the Celis home in June 2011.
FB photo of Jeep In Front of Celis Home June 2011
Yesterday, both Sergio and Becky Celis visited the Celis home and re-enacted the events of Friday April 20th and Saturday April 21st.
Please check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for this developing story.
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Can anyone point me in the direction of a missing child case where bios were scrutinized and not cleared for a while and then a “stranger/so/extended family” was the perp. I’d like to compare video/interviews to study body language/mannerisms, etc. of the innocent to the Celis’.
Thanks for help!
Prayers for Isa.
Kris says:
May 4, 2012 at 1:55 pm
Mermaid, the cousin/uncle has a friend who looks IDENTICAL to the sketch in my opinion. Same mouth, nose, jawline, eyebrows……The glasses are a different color and the hairline isn’t as receding, but the sketch was made from the memory of the three girls, so a few inconsistencies would be expected.
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can you provide a link to the picture of his friend? If this is indeed the guy may explain the two male voices outside the window in the morning? Just curious to take a look.
I have that information and I am not posting it for the time being in this context for obvious reasons.
B
FWIW- I take the 9-11 comment as a sign of hope/ support / something that comforts the family in a time that not one of us ever truly wants to find out the way they feel. I cannot say they are so much as wrong for this if this analogy brings them some type of relief or comfort. I really feel they are victims in this one.
After listening to it myself, I do agree it was not an intentionally arrogant statement.
B
Does anybody happen to know what happened to the Uncle/Cousin that was at the house lickity split that morning and even did an interview. JM his initials. I have seen or heard nothing from him.
Perhaps he has been abducted!
After looking at the video about 9-11
I feel much better he said not including 9-11
So I think they do feel the whole world is praying for Isa
I had the feeling the mother really has no clue
Where Isa is
And loves her deeply
Frankly I hate the early part of a case when the parents are looked at
But it has to be that way
@Southernmom
Thanks for the facebook link
Even if Becky is not like Desiree Young she still seems very sincere
In my opinion
Also very RN that works ER they can’t be to emotional on the job
still there
B
Sergio could be sincere but he seems to be the weaker one
Like so many men married to strong women
This is definitely MOO
SouthernMom says: May 5, 2012 at 2:14 am Can anyone point me in the direction of a missing child case where bios were scrutinized mxand not cleared for a while and then a“stranger/so/extended family” was the perp.
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Roxxane Doll… Everett, WA, 1992-1993. Many similarities, but Roxxanne’s mother… she was (based on personal experience dealing w her) not an “ideal” parental figure. It’s been 20 years. I still get angry when I think of that woman, that situation and that poor little girl. She was doomed to a painful life. I’m waiting for a time that I won’t have to detach myself from reality at work at least a few times a week. This never gets easier… only harder. But I guess getting easier would make me more worried about my sanity. Who needs sleep? Crying yourself to sleep does relieve stress in a slightly twisted way. Always protect your children… suspect everyone. But always have hope too. It’s the only way to make it through!
I always try to correct something I have previously said should it be inaccurate.
Having said that, this is what I wrote May 4, 2012 at 2:48 pm:
“Father says the disappearance of Isabel has resulted in the biggest worldwide prayer since 9-11 ????” – - – emphasis on “SINCE 9-11″.
Which is essentially what Sergio said:
“. . . with the level of prayer that our little girl has brought to this world. With exception of 9-11, I cannot imagine another world-wide chain of prayer that has been so significant.”
My opinion on and personal reaction to those words, however, is something different, and has not changed for me after watching the interview for a 3rd time.
Apologies if my comments were misleading in any way.
SouthernMom says:
(snip)
“According to neighbor, there was barking but nothing alarming enough to cause her to check out the situation.”
SouthernMom, the dogs are definitely an important element, imo.
This is what the neighbor said to Nancy Grace on April 27:
” . . . the Celis’s dogs were going crazy. They bark a lot but this was a different type of barking. This was a very, very frantic barking.”
JVM interviewed Uncle Louis Rodriguez (Rebecca’s brother) on May 3 and this was his response to the neighbor’s observations:
VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Let me just ask this question about the dogs, because the neighbor said she was woken up at 6:30 in the morning. Her dog barked, and then she heard the Celises` dogs bark. And she heard men`s voices and that was right around the time, just a couple of hours before, maybe an hour and a half before the child was discovered missing.
Did the dogs — did you hear anything from your sister about the dogs barking that day? I understand the way the layout of the house is — I`ve seen a floor map — it might have been hard for them to hear if the dogs were barking on the other side of the house. Any thoughts on that at all?
RODRIGUEZ: Once again, I mean, these questions are mainly for the investigators. We are at this moment we cannot with answer any type of those type of questions. If a neighbor saw that or heard, that`s their perception of what happened. And at this time, we cannot discuss anything more.
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1205/03/ijvm.01.html
video of Uncle Louis interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QTbNhGH-QE
Would be good to hear some corroboration on the dogs.
Ooops, the link for the neighbor on the dogs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-1gFSQ3ot0
Starts at the 4:19 mark.
Thanks Blink
The new timeline isn’t pulling it up on my end, but glad you have it.
Pamela A Mastromarino
Pamela A Mastramarino
Pamela A Mastro
Pamela Mastro
Pamela A Mastromarino
Pam A Swanson
Pamela A Swanson
Pamela Ann Swanson
Pamela A Swansonmastro
Parrish, FL
Nokomis, FL
Douglas, AZ
Sarasota, FL
Longboat Key, FL
Gerry Mastromarino
Justin G Mastromarino
Michael Mastromarino
Paul Henry Mastromcrino
Pam A Swanson
***************
Leo Marshall Swanson
Leo M Swanson
Leo Marshall Swanson
72 Douglas, AZ
Maelsa Swanson
Maria Elsa Swanson
**************
I give up. Pamela (Swanson) Mastromarino appears to be Justin’s mother. Somehow there is a connection between Snyder/Mastromarino, but I’m not finding it. All these people above, are listed on either Becky or her Mother’s FB friends pages. And several also list Snyder.
Heck, maybe he’s not really related at all and have just been great family friends for years or something. I know I am “Auntie” to two of my best friends’ kids.
Does “Uncle Justin’ have priors?
It would make sense why the parents message seemed directed to someone they might know. Suspicious of someone might be more appropriate.
JMHO
WOW! WTH is going on?
2 more? this is either a copy cat or a very busy sick freek.
http://www.kvoa.com/videos/stranger-danger-puts-parents-on-high-alert/
emailed you
B
From the KVOA interview, the Celis’s say that LE has asked them not to comment or talk about the results of their polys. Is that standard? I just keep thinking about Kaine Horman & Desiree Young parading around the fact that they both passed with “flying colors”. Why would it be different here? Anyone?
First of all, depending upon who administered the tests, meaning which LEA, it is rare that LE would share the results with the parents in the first place if the policy is “they do not discuss.
Furthermore, LE is under NO obligation to tell them the truth either way, if one result or another can aid investigatively.
What was important to me was the WAY the both answered that question complete with an “I’m Sorry”
At one point the question was whether they were frustrated that LE could not clear them and move past them.
We got a similar response. Does ANYONE think if either one of these people were cleared by a poly and they know it, would withhold that during a press conference like that?
This tells me that BOTH showed an area of deception on SOME question. It does not mean they are involved, but it absolutely could mean that they are not being entirely forthright. OR LE cannot clear them by other means and they themselves do not trust the poly for some reason.
OR
One passed and the other did not, and they both know it and the answer “we have been told not to discuss that” is an easy way to avoid disclosing that.
Lastly, I cannot believe I am seeing “statement analysis” on the Today SHow interview when it was CLEAR this couple does not speak English as their first language. That was absolutely obvious to me.
There is no way to do that without the an advisor fluent in both languages.
It lacks integrity to do so in every way.
B
Ragdoll and Blink, this is what I remember from CW618 posting at ScaredMonkeys and am sure this is correct but not much was ever commented on it. Take a looksee?!
37 Missing, Exploited and True Crime / Missing Persons Forum / Re: Tucson police search for missing 6-year-old girl – Isabel Mercedes Celis on: April 21, 2012, 11:54:57 PM
BBM i knew that name sounded familiar,if that was my name i think i would
change it ir shorten it
http://nymag.com/news/features/22326/
‘We’re really surprised or shocked that anything like this could happen to our family,’ the girl’s uncle, Justin Mastromarino, told the television station.
Police spokesman Maria Hawke said investigators were looking into all potential scenarios, including the possibility that Isabel got up and wandered out of the home she shares with her parents and two brothers or that she was kidnapped.
Investigators also were examining every door and window of the house for signs of a break-in, Ms Hawke said.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133386/FBI-launch-search-year-old-girl-went-missing-bed-overnight-police-say-kidnap-victim.html#ixzz1sk1OGmJu
Good questions from the media at this morning’s 11:00 LE presser.
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/150290805.html
The great thing is Sgt. Pacheco says they have no reason to believe Isabel is not alive.
Blink, how does this fit with your source that a cadaver dog hit on cadaverine?
Thank you.
Thanks Blink. I was wondering if perhaps LE may have asked them not to talk about it, because LE didn’t want someone else to think they have been cleared. Just wondered if LE would do something like that. Also, was thinking about the Horman case and wondering if it was usual for parents to be asked not to and if, in fact, Kaine & Desiree were asked not to discuss it, but did anyway. I don’t follow enough cases to know if parents usually come out swinging saying “we passed our polys”. Would seem to me LE would be mute about the whole thing until the investigation was concluded, unless they wanted someone to “think” they failed.
I totally agree with your disgust of the analyzing of their statements or their miss-speak due to language differences. English is one of the hardest languages to learn. I am always amazed when someone who speaks another language becomes fluent in English.
I have the strangest feeling there will be an arrest this week and it will not be that big of a suprise.
Beckys maiden last name was Snyder. I think mom must have had a couple of husbands. I know it was printed that Beckys dad a man by the name of Rodriguez came as soon as he heard. He must be a step dad to Becky.
I am wondering just who Dawn Mastromariano in Florida is related to all of them. She was arrested for burglary. She is a realtor down there.
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Palm-Beach-County-FL/Dawn-P-Mastromarino.5781261.html
@Malty says:
May 5, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I agree…but it does seem like she is letting him take the lead to give him more “appearance of strength” and I know a lot of strong women who do this to make their DH’s feel better about themselves. They are stong enough to allow this as they don’t need the extra kudos associated with “appearing strong”. MOO.
Statistically if Isa was abducted by a stranger, she is no longer alive. There are cases though that prove this is not always 100% and hopefully these statistics increase in her favor if it was a family member or acquaintance but have to wonder if Isa could identify the perp, would that make it impossible for her to found alive??
I sincerely wish LE and Media was able to flood the tv’s, radios, billboards, etc with a message to the perp on how they can return her (& all missing) safely without absolute detection. Like instructions to drop her off with a note at any public place and instruct to go inside and give the note to an adult. MOO.
They could implore them to think about the consequences…penalties for kidnapping are less than for murder, etc.
Your comment about statistics is 1000% correct. I have not posted the plethora of intel to support that, out of respect, and because I want people to keep Isa on the top of their mind.
B
Again MOO and prayers for Isa and her family.
@ melissab says:
May 5, 2012 at 6:12 pm
I’m wondering if the tv appearance was more of a set up because LE was already onto Mastromarino…advised Isa’s parents to play it up like they know nothing about JM, so LE can watch him closely. Obviously, the dude would disappear if he knew what was going on.
I get the feeling they knew early on who they needed to check out.
I felt it was a reasonable question to post but that’s just MHO.
Thanks for the links Melissa. Perhaps finger prints around the window/area were found?
God bless ya sista friend XO
If this has been posted already, I missed it…
http://www.kvoa.com/news/police-have-received-nearly-900-leads-on-celis-disappearance/#!prettyPhoto/0/
@ T. Ruth says:
May 5, 2012 at 7:30 pm
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I totally agree with your disgust of the analyzing of their statements or their miss-speak due to language differences. English is one of the hardest languages to learn. I am always amazed when someone who speaks another language becomes fluent in English.
UNQUOTE
Every since the Susan Smith announced to the world some random dude abducted her children, I distinctly remember thinking……something’s really off. She’s not looking into the camera. I never had that gut instinct before. In fact, I’ll be forthright and claim…I KNEW SHE KILLED THOSE BEAUTIFUL BOYS!
I have read and heard all kinds of comments wrt to that case and many had the same thought. How sad her estranged husband had to stand there and listen to her outrageous fabrication.
THAT case changed how we interpret similar situations. Susan Smith was someone who couldn’t pull it off. She was an easy read, imyho. I just think she set the stage for how we perceive and observe behaviour, body language, etc, in child abduction cases.
It’s certainly not fair that parents, who are genuinely frightened and cooperative, are scrutinized so unfairly. We can thank SS, Diane Downs and c-word for this (to name a few).
Is it possible the Celis’s could have provided Media with a list of questions they could NOT ask as a condition of granting the interview, at direction of LE, for the sake of preserving the investigation…i.e.
Was there anyone else inside the home that night (JM)?
Why did Isa sleep in her own bed?
Do you suspect anyone in your family to be involved?
etc. etc. etc.
Prayers for Isa and family.
Weird wording-is this because of language issues? Saying “that’s a lot of fun”, right after your daughter disappears?
http://www.kvoa.com/news/isabel-celis-parents-attend-charity-softball-game/
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~~Isabel’s father Sergio was coaching his team from the first-base line.
“Being around family and watching them play,” Sergio Celis said, “that’s a lot of fun.”
Sergio Celis said it was still difficult to enjoy himself.
“It is all for Isabel,” Sergio Celis said, “and we can’t go crawling under a rock. We do got to be out there.”~~
17. T. Ruth says:
May 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm
Blink says:
Lastly, I cannot believe I am seeing “statement analysis” on the Today SHow interview when it was CLEAR this couple does not speak English as their first language. That was absolutely obvious to me.
There is no way to do that without the an advisor fluent in both languages.
It lacks integrity to do so in every way.
B
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Thank you so much Blink for addressing this. I have never been a big fan of Statement Analysis. To me, it’s like making a diagnosis without doing a physical exam, strictly based on the only the patient’s written words.
English does not appear to be the Celis’s native language. I have seen some comments about Sergio’s use/misuse of English verb tenses (when he describes Isa – present tense versus past tense). Verb tense errors are exceedingly common when a person is thinking in one language and verbally expressing his/her thoughts in another (this happens to me all the time when I converse with my Spanish speaking friends). When one is under extreme pressure, as are the Celis’s, the language errors become even more common.
I watched the interview the Celis’s did with the local t.v, station and did not see anything about their language usage, body “language” (I abhor that term), or demeanor that would give me pause. They both seem petrified in front of the camera, especially Rebecca. Sergio comes across to me as a loving father who has lost his daughter. Rebecca, an ER nurse, comes across just as genuinely, but her affect is in keeping with her training. As a nurse who works in the ER she has learned in order to save a life, one must remain in control of their emotions. If you notice, the longer she speaks about her Isa, the more her defenses are wear down, and she begins to cry.
Does anyone recall the affect and demeanor of Natalee Holloway’s mother when she went to Aruba right after Natalee was reported missing? I was struck by her composure when she spoke publicly about her daughter. I would have been a basket case….or not. I just don’t know. My point is that unless one has been in the Celis’s shoes, one cannot possibly know for sure how one would react and comport oneself under these circumstances.
My point is EVERYONE is different and it seems unfair to project how we think we would react onto any parent who is suffering so terribly, and then think it is suspicious because they are not behaving as we *think* we would.
From their interviews, it apppears to me that the Celis’s tend to be private and have had a difficult time going before the cameras, especially Rebecca. I continue to believe neither parent harmed Isa in any way. Perhaps they have some suspicions regarding who took Isa, but they will never compromise the integrity of the investigation, imo.
JMO. Still praying for the darling Isa that she may soon by returned to her loving family, and all who love her.
Headline: “Celis family attends benefit softball tournament”
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/150326705.html
article and video at above link
Wildflower, Loma, and now Truthiness- How little can you possibly have going on in your life for such drivel?
ps. I get the “your” right in this one. Yay me!
B
I’m never sure whether I should be posting here or under the original thread, but did anyone else find it interesting in the KVOA part 2 interview that Becky said the police used chemicals in both the boy’s bedroom in addition to Isa’s? No mention of them being used anywhere else either.
http://www.kvoa.com/videos/police-say-whoever-did-this-did-an-adequate-job/
(snipped, more @link)
“We’re going to operate and continue to work this investigation under the assumption that she is alive and that we will bring her back safely to her family,” says Lt. Fabian Pacheco.
So far, questions about who could be involved haven’t been answered.
“We’re just not at a position yet that we could share those things with you, not at a position where we could tell you we have this person as a suspect or that person as a suspect.”
Many are beginning to wonder how much TPD really knows.
“Whoever is involved did an adequate job of really covering a lot of things that we could possibly look at.”
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Wow, that’s an interesting comment. “covering a lot of things we COULD possibly look at”. Something missing somewhere? Erased computer files? Hmmmmm? Intersting and he stumbles to look for the word he wants to use when he says “adequate”. IOW, they’ve uncovered something, but there should have been more?
27. Ragdoll says:
May 6, 2012 at 12:36 am
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I agree with you, Ragdoll. Susan Smith and Diane Downs were overtly transparent in their interviews, imo. I can still hear Susan Smith’s fake crying as I type! That is how strong of an impression she made on me. In addition, she blamed a black man for carjacking her, which was a dreadful thing to do when all the while she knew her boys were at the bottom of that lake. Then, there was the case of Mr. Stewart in Boston who blamed a black man for shooting his pregnant wife. But, he was the shooter. Stewart later committed suicide by jumping from a bridge after he learned his brother (who had helped him get rid of the gun) was talking to LE.
Prayers for little Isa. It is good to see that her parents are getting out in public more often.
The ER or ED as we call them at the hospital are the first liners
They see the very worse that walks in the doors
These wonderful people are strong
I really do believe Becky
Prayers for Isa
Then I hope this is not extended familiar it will be a heartbreak
For them
I see both parents need to return to work
Did we ever learn where Sergio works?
I found this
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=16233873
No no I had one about the opera
Sorry
Ok try this
http://www.kvoa.com/mobile/news/concert-raises-money-for-isabel-celis-fund/
Another
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/missing-girl-s-dad-performs-at-benefit-concert/article_f69e52f5-5d74-5ae2-9b03-613ed58d5e8c.html
I am about to become open to the hoax hypothesis,
or they are reliant on very bad advice, based on the following
http://bringisahome.com/donations/
Any followers of Kyron’s abduction will recognize the FB site
“Bringisahome” clones the site “Bringkyronhome”
On the front page, Paypal to the left, child pic & writeup in the center,
a newsfeed to the right, just like the BKH site. Moreover parents are now doing “awareness”
fundraising events, just like Kaine. In their interview they use some of the language he used in week 3 to
explain why the first press conference waited for two weeks.
The difference on this site re monies is there is no pretense of an
IRS exemption & monies are explicity stated to be
for the support of the family & anything they want.
Him being an opera singer & she being a nurse are my reasons for respect,
besides the tragic loss of their young child,
but a BIH page without a nonprofit’s registration
& financial controls is pushing it for me.
This is beautifully sophisticated design & programming
worthy of a Superpac in a Presidential election:
http://bringisahome.com/upcoming-events/
http://bringisahome.com/category/contributions/
Not that I think Isa deserves less.
Please ignore my previous post, I accidentally hit the send button before finishing. (Feel free to delete it).
I am not offended by the website in any way.
1) It makes sense to use an existing template for a new site to get it up and running quickly and efficiently.
2) the lack of a non-profit certification does not bother me at all. This is not the time for the family to sit down with lawyers and accountants to set up a foundation or other non-profit entity. In fact, many of the family’s immediate needs are for cash to replace their incomes while the parents are unable to work. In addition, registered non-profit organizations have frequently been used as successful financial scams. (Even the United Way was abused by its leadership in the past).
If the organizers provided a readable disclosure regarding the intent of the donations and their use, as well as the tax status of same, I say let people decide on their own.
HOWEVER- I sincerely hope that whoever sets that up has consulted the state statutes for soliciting public donations. I will be an absolute menace to anyone I find out is breaking any laws with regards to public donations- sorry, it is my thing, and just ask Cword and the Anthony’s if you doubt me
B
Just reading in, the site donor is identified at the bottom:
kudos to this Co. for the generous Bringisahome
website donation & speedy work:
http://www.focuswebtech.com/about/team-bios/
http://www.focuswebtech.com/faq/
What first struck me as odd, in addition to the speed the BringIsaHome website appeared, was the fact that it is a dot com, as oppopsed to dot org, website. I too looked at focuswebtech, because I seriously wondered is someone out there designing websites for missing children? The similarity to Kyron’s site is uncanny. Then I wondered, well someone just gave Kaine an award for his work in helping find other missing children…….or social worker of the year or whatever. And since I’ve never seen any of his work in that regard, I wondered, did Kaine Horman design this site? Did he come up with a template to use every time a child goes missing? Just wondering.
Has anyone heard whether or not LE found this cousin/uncle whatever he is? If not, wouldn’t they put out a wanted for questioning type poster or something?
They have been in contact, I have no information he is out of dodge if that is what you are asking T. Ruth
B
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/dignitymemorial/guestbook.aspx?n=cathy-avants&pid=146837791&page=2
November 30, 2010
Cathy Jean:
Your smile and guidance will be missed by all.
You are now one of our many guardian angels watching over us.
Our prayers and thoughts are with your family.
And know I am here for all of them.
The Snyder and Mastromarino Family
~
Pamela Mastromarino,
New Port Richey, Florida
*************************************
From this, I draw the conclusion that Pamela Mastromarino is Becky’s Paternal Aunt, which would make Justin her cousin, not Uncle.
(Either that or she’s her bio mom and gave her up for adoption or something.)
I have to ask. Social media is eating this family alive. Why aren’t LE coming to their rescue? They could do that in a moment but they don’t..how come?
Absolutely and unequivocally not their job. They are not a PR service. They are a public agency of civil servants funded by our dime to perform their job functions to the best of their ability.
In this case, I feel strongly they are.
B
The donor of the Bring Isa Home site is listed at the bottom of the first page. With all the social media we have these days, I think it is a good thing for cases like Isa’s to get all the exposure they can get. I also don’t see anything wrong with people who may want to donate to help the family (as I understand they have been unable to work for awhile due to the abduction of the daughter), but I also believe donors should know where the money is going (family versus other efforts).
Prayers for Isa, the Celis family and her friends.