Isabel Celis Breaking News: Child Services Removes Sons From Sergio Celis Care and Placed With Mother
In the latest development in the April 21st disappearance of missing Tucson child Isabel Celis, her father Sergio has been stripped of his physical custodial rights of her brothers.
There has been no confirmation from Tucson Police about the children’s removal and placement, and CPS has only confirmed the boys have been placed with one parent.
Sources inside the investigation have confirmed to www.blinkoncrime.com that evidence gleaned in the investigation has warranted alternative placement of the couples oldest children in the wake of the disappearance of their daughter, Isabel.
The boys, whose names have been reported previously elsewhere but are being intentionally withheld by www.blinkoncrime.com have been placed together, not separately.
Check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for details.
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I don’t really know what to think about this case anymore, but the longer it goes on, the stranger it seems to get. I was really hoping in the beginning that the parent’s had nothing to do with Isa’s disappearance but the more that gets released by police, the less confidence I have in them. I don’t believe Becky is guilty of anything other than marrying Sergio and I have to admit, there has always been just been something about him that raises red flags IMO, but I can’t really point to any specific thing … he just has that way about him that makes me skeptical. My opinion lately is that Sergio definitely knows “something”. What that is, I have no idea, but with each new piece of information from TPD, the less innocent he becomes in my mind.
In a nutshell, I don’t know how anyone truly feels about the how’s and why’s of this case but am I the only one that is starting to believe that Sergio just seems like a potential wolf in sheep’s clothing? I know every parent reacts differently to tragedy, but something is just really “off” with him. I’ve really tried, but I can’t shake the feeling that he just appears to try to make too much of an effort to seem docile and unintimidating on camera, but with CPS involved with the family since December (before as well?), Sergio now unable to see his boys, those inappropriate sounding, nonchalant 911 calls and his 6-yr old daughter missing, all I keep coming back to is that Sergio doesn’t really seem to be the guy he appears to be in front of the media. I pray to God I’m wrong. Prayers to Isa.
Rose,
I think that twitter page (now says page doesn’t exist) belongs to another JM from NY who is around 18.
@wpg. whew. TY
41. Rose says:
May 17, 2012 at 11:11 pm
@Monkeybunny. you got that response because you dialed 911. You reported to police, not CPS.
In every area a CPS tip line or contact line is well publicized. And complaints can be anonymous.
One reason CPSinvestigations or any involvement with cps is totally confidential is any tom dick
or harry can call an accusation in, and anonymously, and the investigated person won’t know who did it.
It can be a grudge thing, or specious, and CPS is still mandated to investigate.
a message in the closet–was she being locked in?
I don’t think so or boys wouldn’t be with Becky.
Mom wouldve been expected to prevent that.
If it was 911 calls, probably a boy calling in due to beatings,
not Mom calling bcz cps came.
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I so agree with you, Rose. Thanks so much for weighing in.
It’s not clear at this point who or why CPS was called. Could have been just about anything that prompted their involvement last December. I have a friend whose personality disordered ex-husband has called CPS to report her at least three times. All complaints had to be investigated; no abuse or neglect was confirmed. Now CPS is looking at the ex. Bottom line is you just never know. Some families are just so dysfunctional.
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I just want to add that I don’t believe anyone is “hiding” this child to protect her, least of all BC. That same speculation was floated in the KH case. I am very afraid this case is going to have a very bad outcome. But, we can always hope and pray she is safe somewhere.
Good morning, Blink and All good people:
LE said (reportly) they recieved, several 911 calls, from the home.
Are the calls covered in the Sunshine Law?
Can we find out who made the calls, and what the calls were for, through the Sunshine Law?
T.Y.
I dont recall anyone saying their were several 911 calls made from the home prior to this incident.
B
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Arizona_Public_Records_Law
I keep reading all of our thoughts and my mind is racing that maybe Segio took and hid Isa to get back at BC for wanting to leave him. I’m hoping she is safe, pray!
This might be the comment you are referring to. Interesting.
“Cps was called because the youngest son came foreward with information about where Isabel really went and Sergio told his son to keep his mouth shut. The younger son is in fact the “key witness” that came forward with information. Isabels passport is also missing which is why the police suspect she was taken to Mexico by someone the family knew with Sergios permission. Sergio is up to something and its not clear what that is yet. The Police are intentionally holding information from the public and believe that Isa is alive and plan to keep it that way.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0…n_1526158.html
I am aware of the “information” I think being referred to and I can tell you I was able to verify none of it.
I would also say that if Isa was harmed, it would behoove someone to want everyone to think she is fine and dandy and in Mexico.
That said, there is no searching going on that does not include a very short distance to the Celis home.
B
I am a little stunned by the Huffington Post article. Who are their sources?
I just do not believe the Tucson police would use the amount of resources they have in this case (last week’s report had already hit $1M) if there was any real evidence Isabel Celis was in Mexico……Further, regardless of the lawlessness we see going on in Mexico (drug murders, etc.), it seems unreasonable that the Mexican authorities would not have cooperated if there was any substantial information that indicated this child, Isabel Celis, was indeed in Mexico.
For now, I am not buying the HP report. Although, I will admit, it would make for a much happier ending……..
Did I miss something in the prior comments here about the HP article? If so, I apologize for my last comments in reference to “sources” and HP……..
When I followed the link, I discovered that the quote was NOT from the HP article; but, rather from a comment posted underneath the article.
No, I think that was unclear, it was a comment. As I mentioned, I received the same tip, and I knew LE did as well, but it was not verifiable.
B
I keep checking back for some good news and so sad there is none. Elizabeth’s comment gives me hope, but I was thinking the same thing Blink wrote, without the behoove (but I do love that word). If someone did bring upon the worst to her, they would want you to think she was alive and well in another country.
This is the first I’ve read that the brother said he knew where she really is. That gives me huge hope!! But the cadavear dog and some other happenings lead me to believe this is another tragic tragic event to a beautiful little girl.
Trying to keep the faith.
Where is Justin Mastromarino?
I think something was found on that surveillance tape that has never been shown.
@ Elizabeth says:
May 18, 2012 at 1:30 pm
This might be the comment you are referring to. Interesting.
“Cps was called because the youngest son came foreward with information about where Isabel really went and Sergio told his son to keep his mouth shut. The younger son is in fact the “key witness” that came forward with information. Isabels passport is also missing
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I guess this answers the question that I kept asking “why did LE not bring the younger son to the re-enactment along with the older son”
I’ve had an sick feeling about this case since the get go, when police said the trash was picked up that morning. According to the city’s website their trash is picked up on Thursdays. http://maps.tucsonaz.gov/zoomtucson/
Of course, it’s possible that Sergio went to the dumps himself that morning with some larger items and took the trash with him before even checking on Isa, depending on what time they open, but if so why hasn’t this been talked about? It’s also possible they dumped their trash again on Friday, that being the case, surely LE would have found a piece of junk mail or something with the Celis name on it in the landfill? It’s also possible that they didn’t take out any trash between Thursday morning and Saturday morning. Then I started thinking about the video cameras, would a trash can fit in any of their cars? Anyway is it possible one of the kids answered an independent question as to when they last took out the trash? Could this be why they are searching the other areas where one might dump something? Prayers for Isa.
I just want to comment as to whether Isabel was capable of writing a message in her closet, being just 6 years old… I still have the tiny note written on Hello Kitty paper that I wrote when I was 6 – it says, “I hate my mom because she yells at me.” Now, that was almost 30 years ago when there was less academic pressure in first grade. My own 6 year old writes stories that are pages long and even keeps a journal. I won’t speculate if there is actually a message in Isabel’s closet, or anywhere else, but in my opinion she would be capable of writing one.
does anysone know if the celis’ were going to separate and file for divorce and were just waiting for school to be out for the year??–
maybe an “overzealous” parent did disappear little Isa to Mexico (or some other place)– any parent just hates to have that child support hanging over their heads–it totally can interfere with their lifestyle—
that being said is there a relative or close acquaintance of the family who is MIA? (and it is confirmed that mr. celis is both the boys father–but is there a different bio mom and not becky-seriously?)
hopefully there is a very good chance of something like this and then little isa has not been harmed physically and maybe not emotionally if she has been told a convincing story—
if this is the case—can someone PLEASE step forward and end this
CNN’s NG is suggesting there was a “note” left on Isa’s wall. Police do not confirm. Nor deny apparently.
Not privy to facebook pages, but going by these words of JM I get the feeling he wasn’t convinced at that point it was a stranger abduction:
“All the ambition in the world. She could do whatever she wanted. Didn’t really like strangers or anything like that so very close knitted and just very wise,” said Mastromarino.”
My impression of the “very wise” was in reference to Isa’s thinking, reaction to strangers.
JM also said:
“They’re very upset right now, the mother is beside herself. We’re just trying to let police do their thing and get as much info as possible,” said Mastromarino.”
again jmo, JM wasn’t immediately fully towing the “kidnapped/abduction” family line and he himself was waiting for more info to be gathered. Perhaps the family told him to to stop speaking . . .
Just a thought.
ps
For accuracy, I typed in “the” for “the mother” because even though he said “the mother” on video, print articles left out “the” and there was some statement analysis based on the inaccurate print that JM only said “mother is beside herself”
The Examiner is suggesting that Isa herself wrote the “note” inside of her closet. That conjures a very sad image. Poor baby.
Again, what about the cadaver dog “hit”??? This seems to be getting left out of each new scenario.
As far as the December CPS visit, it is entirely possible someone from Isa’s school could have reported something to them as they are bound by law to report anything suspicious that a child may tell them about abuse of any kind. If she was scribbling messages on the inside of her closet door, you can bet she was probably talking with someone at school.
That SC 911 call, just the most bizarre thing I have ever heard in my life. And why was it not initiated by him? Who lets a 14 year old call and report a child missing?? That is irresponsible!
fwiw, all the Arizona court charges against JM were dismissed, except for the one JM eventually pleaded guilty to – - dui with alcohol level .08 or higher, to which (from what my non-legal eyes can see) he was sentenced to probation with mandatory education and screen testings.
Today, May 18 is the next showing of proof to his probation mandates.
An earlier post said that BC would have prevented IC from being locked in the closet. Ok, this is not to stereotype but people need to understand this culture, I know it because I have been close to it all my life. Women have NO power in the relationships, the men hold the power in most of them, at least the traditional ones. More modern ones where you have higher education levels, you don’t see this.
The women and children are subservient to the men period. Yes, even if they live in this country. Oddly enough it seems as though BC had more earning power, but you can still see the components of a very traditional Hispanic marriage there. Often the men in these relationships are unfaithful but expect the wives to hold to their vows.
I do not believe Isa has been spirited off to Mexico. I believe whatever caused CPS to visit in December was still going on and probably had been ratcheted up quite a few notches. She may have been on the receiving end of some kind of rage or vindictiveness by the father, he was already threatening the sons not to talk.
SC may have even “planted” the story idea of Isa being taken to Mexico in hopes one of the sons would repeat it to take suspicion off of him.
The answer lies with this father. He was too calm in that call. He has acted too suspiciously since.
Blink, in the precious article you wrote:
“Mastromarino lived with the Celis family for some time in 2011. The image below was taken in front of the Celis home in June 2011.”
I’ve seen his fb profile pic where he is sitting on a snow covered hill and then the newer one where his jeep is sitting on snow-covered ground with snow on its roof – - – which is a contrast in time to the June/summer photo you showed.
Could of course be nothing and very well I’m over-thinking, but am wondering if the snow-Jeep pic come to be after your posting of the May 3 article with June-Jeep photo . . . as in “I wasn’t in Arizona in December 2011″?
Blink glad to know my name is safe. I am sorry to hear you think there is not much hope for a happy ending to Isa’s case.
I agree with you and grace- it is a long shot to hold out hope that Isa is alive and taken.
I am not yet ready to give up hope though, as so many variables are in play here & many of them still as yet unknown.
Dont worry I am not ready to lead a mob to get CPS- as again just so much is unknown.
Since Caylee’s case I cant help but cringe each time a child abduction case occurs as I find myself immediately doubting the childs parents and family- wondering if this is going to be another case of –oops the child is dead, but we cant bring her back and we definitely dont want to be held accountable…so we’ll concoct an abduction story and as long as we stick to it and muddy the truth with lie upon lie we will prevent LE and the courts from getting the truth and justice…
I dont want Casey Anthony to be the standard to which I judge all other parents or “abducted” child cases – Even though I know LE must first clear the parents and move outward- we the concerned citizens can not lose our ability to empathize with the missing childs parents- and we can not immediately suspect them -lest we run the chance of NOT helping to bring home a legitimately lost and abducted child-
Its almost as if Casey Anthony is todays boy who cried wolf and we were all burned by her lies so we are all on overdrive trying not to be duped again- which is fine- but not if our alertness /wariness prevents us from helping in the search etc…
Believe me I know the likelihood of Isas case ending up in the CA category- but for just a little while longer I will give her family the benefit of the doubt-
AJMO
O mom3.0
Such an eloquent and “real” post. I know friend.
The writing on the closet wall- I am not sure what to think of this as any parent will tell you kids do this and it is often little blurbs that are negative- such as I hate my Dad or my brother is a butt or my mom is mean0
We dont know when the message, if it was a message was written we dont know if Isa wrote it or someoneelse we dont know if it has any bearing on the case- although it is true that children hide in closets when scared or sadly some are locked in closets as punishment…it is also true that kids like to go into hideaways themselves just to be alone, just to think, just to play, just to quickly write down a scrawl on the wall- a thought that is not nice but envelopes a feeling at that exact moment…
We just cant know at this point what the writing means-
As to whether or not a 6 year old 1st grader, near the end of the school year can write well or enough to convey her thoughts or a message- it depends-
Each child is unique, and has their own timeline for developing skills- but in MOST circumstances Isa, as a 6 year old 1st grader would have been at the very least an emergent writer- using inventive or phonetic spelling- and could have been well on her way to being a Transitional reader/writer who uses meaning, grammatical, and letter cues more fully
Beginning in KDG children are taught to learn and spell sight words by the end of 1st grade, if on target Isa would have had quite a large word bank to choose from in addition to still being able to utilize i9nentive spelling
We just cant know with out knowing Isa- one of the first questions to ask was if Isa was also in ESL classes- was English her first language and could she speak Spanish fluently- if so these students often excel in language arts as they have from an early age mastered 2 languages.
AJMO
Well I for one am not giving up hope. For some reason an alive Isabel fits everything we are seeing and hearing.
We have no searches…only when a strong tip is received and they turn out to be nothing. Heck they won’t let Tim Miller or any of his friends with murdered children that have formed search groups in.
The parents don’t want to be on tv and Today is trying to reach them and getting…no answer.
No grieving from a happy, chuckling Sergio on the 911 call and a smiling, dressed up Becky on Mothers day wishing everybody a Happy Mothers Day on facebook.
No sign of a murder in the home.
All we have is a missing Isabel, a missing Justin Mastromarino and a whole lot of maybe’s and could be’s.
I am going to believe Isabel is alive until something concrete hits me in the face.
@MonkeyBunny & Grace
I have the (usually) fun task of running a youth sports program. I have been in the position of witnessing the very best and worst of people. I can’t tell you the range of things that people like me see and hear. I had the unfortunate need to place my first and only call to CPS because of severe verbal abuse on a young child all because he used the “wrong” bat. Being a survivor myself, I can’t tell you what it was but I KNEW there was more going on at home. I called the child’s school nurse to see if there had ever been anything to raise her suspicions because I so wanted to believe I was off-base. She would not answer questions (expected) and recommended that I call CPS which I did. They basically told me if I didn’t actually witness anything physical that there was nothing they could do. Not long after the incident at the ball fields, fortunately, this young child was removed from his “mother” and placed with family members who had stepped up on his behalf. I hear it all of the time that it is a crime to not report abuse but CPS in Texas doesn’t seem to consider screaming F-bombs at a 6 year old at a tball baseball game in front of dozens of people abuse.
For what it’s worth, I asked the mom to take a walk with me which is my usual tactic when there are out of hand parents that need to remember why we are all there. She was rude and refused. With a no tolerance policy in place, I then advised her that she would have to leave the park. She pulled her son out of the game, cussing at him like I wouldn’t do to my worst enemy. I followed her to the parking lot, listening to the barrage of insults at such a small, sweet baby. All the while, my heart was breaking for what I was afraid would happen to him when he got into the car/arrived home.
To this day, I do not believe I did enough and I certainly did not feel like the CPS case worker assigned took it seriously. Fortunately others who apparently did witness worse, did. His story has a happy ending. I wish so many others did.
I keep sweet Isa in my thoughts and prayers constantly. I hope that her family had nothing to do with this. The alternatives are just too much to bear. Why do people have kids if they don’t want them? I pray her brothers are strong enough to be open and honest with investigators and that they have the wisdom to realize their defenseless sister deserves protection over and above a parent/parents/uncle need their silence.
In many hispanic families the mother will not learn english and spanish (Tex-mex) is spoken exclusively in the home. In this family the mother was a professional. In order to do her work she is required to speak english. However, Arizona is loaded with illegals who have little english skills. Part of the job requirement could be that she is bi-lingual, requiring fluency in english and spanish.
There are many,many dialects of spanish. The term Tex-mex is the term used in Texas to indicate a language of mixed words and meanings. They may even call it Arz-mex in Arizona. Mexican spanish contains words from various indian tribes, original spanish words with altered meanings and some english words as well.
The spanish spoken in Mexico is quite different than that spoken in Spain. I discovered this when I was a sophomore in high school. We had the daughter of the Mexican consulate in our english class. Half way through the fall semister a new Spanish family joined the Spanish consolate and they had a daughter that joined our class.
The english teacher was delighted to have the second spanish speaking person in the class. The classroom was quite large. The normal chair setup of 35 only occupied half the room. Our teacher introduced the new girl to the class making certain that the Mexican consulates daughter was seated next to the new girl from Spain.
In order for them to become better acquainted, the teacher suggested they mover their chairs to the back of the room and talk quietly together while she worked with the rest of the class. They moved the chairs and within five minutes both were at the teachers desk asking if it would be alright if they spoke in english. The suprised teacher asked why they needed to speak in english. The answer was that the spanish each used was so different that they could not understand one another.
Depending on the amount of english exposure that Isa experienced would determine the ability to write something coherant on the wall of the closet. She did have two older brothers that may have helped her with reading and writing english.
Thanks for putting that into words Mom3.0! I have been struggling with this issue for some time now. I want so badly to give the parents of missing kids the benefit of the doubt-but find I immediately jump to “they’re guilty of something” instead. No matter how hard I try anymore, it just doesn’t stop me from “going there”.
So go there I do–but with a reminder to myself, in the back of my mind “you might be wrong and the family may be innocent”.
It’s really hard to step out of “common sense land” and into “give people a chance land”, after all Blink has taught us on BOC!
But–even though I may suspect the families-I will always keep believing the child is safe/alive somewhere until I have definite proof to the contrary–that is something I won’t give up!
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Mom3.0 says:
May 18, 2012 at 6:25 pm
………
“Since Caylee’s case I cant help but cringe each time a child abduction case occurs as I find myself immediately doubting the childs parents and family- wondering if this is going to be another case of –oops the child is dead, but we cant bring her back and we definitely dont want to be held accountable…so we’ll concoct an abduction story and as long as we stick to it and muddy the truth with lie upon lie we will prevent LE and the courts from getting the truth and justice…”
(snip)
T. Ruth says:
May 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Anyone know if there’s a hidden cache somewhere of this information, prior to this one?:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mq1IbdzrMdYJ:nsn.soaz.info/incidents/zrosemontwest.html+%225000+block+of+e+12th+st.%22+%22tucson%22&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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T. Ruth,
There is a pdf map for download at the same website in your cache called
“All Neighborhoods in One Map”
http://nsn.soaz.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=78&Itemid=74
Rosemont West and Rosemount East are both directly west of the Celis home.
The Celis home may not be in the Police Incident listings for that particular website – - – possibly because there doesn’t seem to be a Neighborhood Association for their area/division.
Property record shows their division name as Loma Verde.
Hope this helps.
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/dateline/47433100/#47443330
Sources say inconsistencies in Serio’s story.
Oh no…please correct my misspelling of Sergio’s name if you catch it in time. Thanks B.
Exellent points, Mom 3.0. Thank you for giving me a lot to think about. Your compassion, insights, and analyses are helpful far beyond this forum. Grazie bene.
Survivor,
Thanks for your thoughtful post re: CPS. Speaking of Casey Anthony, do you remember that she told her mother that she hadn’t called the police because she was conducting her own investigation? Then from jail she said that she told her parents that she was keeping quiet to protect her family? I understand that you’re trying not to see this case/the world through Casey-colored glasses, but at least keep your eyes open (I mean absolutely no disrespect). I knew/felt/was convinced that SC had everything to do with his daughter’s disappearance after the first press conference. Totally my opinion, but I feel it in my gut. We keep bringing up Casey Anthony because SC REMINDS US OF HER. Liar, liar, liar, faker, bad actor. IMO, he is full of you know what. He makes my skin crawl.
“Celis family clarifies CPS involvement”
Sergio Celis’s sister, Elena Lukasiewicz, addressed the media before the candlelight vigil held for missing Isabel Celis Friday night.
Lukasiewicz said she was unhappy with the way the media has been “bringing negative attention” and “bashing” the Celis family.
Six-year-old Isabel Celis has been missing now for 28 days.
Tucson police released earlier this week that Child Protective Services had increased its involvement in the case to ensure the welfare of the children. It was subsequently learned that the boys had been placed with Rebecca Celis.
Lukasiewicz said she wanted to clarify two points. The first was that Sergio had never been contacted by Child Protective Services prior to last Thursday.
Lukasiewicz also clarified Sergio went to court three weeks ago to get an extension on dog tags- not animal abuse. She did not take any questions from the media.
Rebecca Celis, Isabel’s mother, was in attendance and said, “It’s been hard for her sons to be separated from Sergio, but everyone remains hopeful.”
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18560280/celis-family-clarifies-cps-involvement
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I see no clarification on the CPS, and the “dog tags” is a little more complicated and irresponsible than that. jmo
I think this is going to end up like Kyron…until they find Isa, nothing significant will happen. I pray this doesn’t turn into a cold case as well. Like Terri, Sergio could stay with his parents for years in silence. I’m sure he has representation by now, and is being advised to stay completely mum for the time being. They are doing their job, but while these attorney’s are protecting their clients, cases are entering subzero temperatures.
Prayers for Isa.
“Community holds vigil for Isabel Celis ”
Crowds gathered to keep hope alive, to keep Isabel’s name in the headlines and support the Celis family. A family that has split up in recent days as the investigation continues.
Rebecca Celis led the candlelight walk along with one of her sons, crowds of volunteers lit candles and followed along Friday night as everyone was clinging on hope and prayer.
Noticeably absent Friday, Sergio Celis forced to watch from afar, from the wall behind his home. Sergio’s sister spoke on behalf of her brother, Elena Lukasiewicz told the media just before the candlelight vigil was to begin,”we ask that you maintain compassion and understanding for the entire Celis family.”
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/152126585.html
Thank you Blink, it means alot that you took the time to appreciate my thoughts as I know you get it.
Wordgirl thank you sincerely – I am glad you value my contributions- as I do yours- btw Wordgirl I think I have mastered the spelling of Etc. so thanks.
Zeus- you are welcome, and I feel much the same as you do…it5 is a struggle but I am not naive either.. thank you for speaking up to let me know that I am not alone.
Elizabeth- beautiful post thanks for sharing.
Survivor- I am sure you did what you thought best- and in the long run it seems your instincts were right.. I am happy to know that the child is taken care of- I am glad too, that the nurse did not share any info with you- just so you know, had the nurse or any school personnel even had an suspicion of child abuse it would have been reported- and CPS would have been involved- so just for future reference- no need to go there and ask- as they are bound by law NOT to reveal anything to you or anyoneelse-
Having said that- school personnel also have a strict protocol they must follow- they can not just make an anonymous tip- everything must be documented to ensure the childs well being as well as the family as well as the school personnel job- so I highly doubt IF CPS was called- (which keep in mind Blink was unable to verify this info)but if they were I highly doubt the call was made by someone at the school.
Ps I am glad you survived and are now looking out for those who are still trying…
Monkeybunny- Hi I just want to let you know that I have my eyes open and I am not wearing any rose colored glasses- you could be right about your comparisons to Sergio and Casey and liars… but I am not ready to chalk up Sergios weirdness to child murderer just yet- and no it does not mean that I am letting him off the hook either- it just means I am willing to give Isas family including Sergio the benefit of the doubt for awhile longer- to do anything less would be letting Casey and her ilk dictate my reactions. To rush to judgment is not something that would be beneficial to Isa, or the investigation this early on- JMO
I am not saying your gut is wrong- just that I need to take some more time evaluating the evidence
TGF- Hello- Heres a thought TGF- perhaps the message in Isas closet is written in Spanish? Therefore despite what her dialect or her fluency in English she may have been an expert in conveying her thoughts in Spanish. Its all speculation at this point-
Again, I ask was Isa both fluent in English and Spanish? and again I caution this message may not have any bearing on the case we must wait and see- thanks for the info TGF – Your posts are always an interesting read.
AJMO
Peace
http://www.kvoa.com/news/isabel-celis-mother-attends-candlelight-vigil-walk/
“My husband’s a great father,” Celis said. “My husband loves those boys, loves my daughter. He’s a great husband.”
“Rebecca Celis: “Sergio wants to be here”
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/152132265.html
Article and video with RC being interviewed at above link.
Ok what is it. Were there numerous 911 calls and did CPS visit the Celis home in 2011?
If the sister is speaking at a rally wouldn’t she have the facts?
Can you stand in front of a crowd and lie? Can LE lie?
Which is it? Who is telling the truth and will the “liar” be held accountable?
Tuscon News Now has updated with a video.
I did not realize SC’s sister was speaking AT THE MICROPHONE regarding her brother’s legal woes . . . at a vigil FOR ISA, no less.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18560280/celis-family-clarifies-cps-involvement
I confess I have no earthly idea wth is going on anymore in this case. It’s official.
B
I can understand why Sergio’s sister would use the microphone to come to her brother’s defense — even if the timing during a vigil for her missing niece was in bad taste.
She was trying to set rumors straight. If there is an untruth circulating, then I can understand the desire to speak out.
Speak the truth and seek for the truth.
@ wpg says:
May 19, 2012 at 8:27 am
Tuscon News Now has updated with a video.
I did not realize SC’s sister was speaking AT THE MICROPHONE regarding her brother’s legal woes . . . at a vigil FOR ISA, no less.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18560280/celis-family-clarifies-cps-involvement
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Thank you for the link to the video..
I’m always amazed when BC speaks that I don’t get the visual of a concerned & worried mother.. In this video she seems almost relaxed IMO.. No words to the kidnapper(?) or words of comfort to her missing little girl ? When I recall Diena Thompson, Somer’s mother speaking after her little girl went missing this is so opposite of those emotions.. Yes, I know everyone reacts differently but this different I didn’t expect..
@wpg both Becky and his sister did same, with Becky in staunch defense
http://www.kvoa.com/mobile/news/isabel-celis-mother-attends-candlelight-vigil-walk/ “somewhere out there”
tells me family & LE know nothing either
I guess I ‘m still in abduction from house via whatever means page
It seems to me the very failed cases I’ve read of Kesse/Horman/Powell
have exceptionally poor LE if not seriously corrupt. I wonder what we’ll learn about Tucson which
to date has seemed OK
I confess I have no earthly idea wth is going on anymore in this case. It’s official.
B
None of us do. It’s all just speculation. Welcome Aboard!
As a Tucsonan, my feeling at this point is that the police need to minimize the man-power and the expense on this case if they are going to continue to move this slowly……..
There are many rumors floating around: drug cartel involvement, gang involvement of the family, Mexico flight because of divorce, the list goes on. Like in reference to the “anonymous tip” to reporters that there was some kind of message scribbled on Isa’s wall, I think the police need to address the rumors as true, speculation, or flat out verifiably untrue. Certainly, if there’s even ANY grain of probability that this child is in Mexico, we need to stop seeing searches in the desert and tid-bits released about CPS, etc.
I am moving away from being “conflicted” on this situation now and moving towards disgust at the media show it is becoming. The candle light vigil last night and the tv interview with RC as she very casually said-paraphrased (with a smile on her face),”Isa is just not coming home as quickly as I had hoped” is beginning to be too much for this local.
There is no use of the media by this family to cry out for this child. There has been no effort from this family to run into the streets looking for their child and NO efforts to organize such an effort with their FB and other fund raising groups. In my opinion, this does not paint this family in a good light.
Hi Mom3.0. Glad to see your back. Only two more weeks of school in the big districts in Texas.
You could be exactly right regarding the supposed message on the closet wall. It could be in spanish,not in english. Based on what is known about Isa, she seemed to be a very smart child.
LE may be holding the real information to aid them in the search for Isa.