The Devil They Knew: Jessica Ridgeway Accused Murderer Austin Reed Sigg Profile Emerges
Graphic Warning: Segments of this report while accurate, are graphic and may be objectionable to some readers. It is definitely inappropriate for readers under the age of 18 without parental permission and recommended supervision.
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Westminster, CO- Standley Lake High School dropout Austin Sigg told his Mother he kidnapped 10 year old Witt Elementary student Jessica Ridgeway the morning of Friday October 5.
Mindy Ashbaugh Sigg , divorced from Robert J Sigg, the father of the couple’s two teenage boys, called Westminster Police Tuesday evening to alert them of her son’s admission.
Upon arrival, Austin Reed Sigg confessed the unthinkable. Sigg told investigators he strangled the little girl after he snatched her into his Jeep, hogtied her in the back, and they could find the remainder of the child in a cooler located in a crawl space at his 102nd St address. By 7:45PM Sigg was arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Jessica Ridgeway, and the attempted kidnapping and attempted murder of a female jogger on May 28, 2012 a few hundred yards from his home.
The self-professed death mobile was impounded and inventoried at an undisclosed evidence bay for processing .
Although Sigg did not graduate High School, he earned his GED and was attending the alternative school Warren Tech last March where he won second place in the forensics category- a CSI award. Sigg was currently enrolled at Arapohoe Community College with the intention of fulfilling the prerequisite courses necessary to join the mortuary science program- which requires a background check for acceptance.
The irony of an award matching the letters on the backs of jackets combing through the Sigg home was not lost on the seasoned crime scene technicians fastidiously processing this newest crime scene in the case.
It was also not lost on any of the law enforcement personnel present that field testing did not detect results synonymous with an environment used to dismember a human. They are confident that had to have occurred somewhere else.
They are missing a crime scene. Are they missing an accomplice?
Spawn or Pawn?
Austin Reed Sigg was born to Mindy and Rob Sigg on January 17, 1995 . This was the second marriage for Rob and two small children later, the couple would divorce before Austin’s fifth birthday.
Mindy Sigg, a tech for a Lasik provider in Westminster, had full custody of the boys while Rob continued his long and varied criminal history consisting of DUI’s, drugs, and finally landing in Federal prison for an identity theft and mortgage scheme in 2006. Robert is the president of Performance One Media- the company is named in current civil litigations, and he owns a go Kart racing team.
Extended family members speaking on the condition of anonymity to BOC, confirmed this morning that the family had serious concerns about Austin’s “direction” during his junior year at Standley Lake.
…” We heard that he was in counseling over issues related to the family breaking up, you know, Rob was in and out of prison sort of thing, but while Mindy kept telling everyone she was told this kind of phase of wearing black, being holed up in his room playing video games, and charging porn movies on her accounts was normal for a teenage boy, we had discussed someone taking the lead and mentioning we thought Austin did not seem “normal” for as long as I could remember. But then he had a girlfriend for a while, and he seemed to sort of snap out of it. The last thing I remember was that they had gone to some formal and the next thing we knew he was pulled out of school and in intensive therapy for a pornographic addiction, so I don’t know if that is what broke the kids up, or what. Mindy had it rough with the two boys on her own. She put herself through that school in Denver on her own dime while Rob got locked up and about the same time. I think the kids were probably very much on their own and by the time Austin started having really big issues, it may have been too late obviously.
We still don’t know how he comes out of prison and paid of over $140K in fines while Mindy was forced to file bankruptcy this summer we found out later. I tried to look up Rob’s stuff on the internet, but a bunch of the files from his criminal case are still sealed.”
A review of Ms. Sigg’s bankruptcy petition may indicate that Austin either had or was facing some juvenile charges. It was filed 2 days after the Memorial Day attack on a young female jogger Sigg is also charged with, and a few weeks prior to an elaborate luxury vacation the family took to the US Virgin Islands. As reported by kdvr, Investigators with WPD and the FBI may not have been aware of their suspect’s international travels and are now in contact with authorities abroad.
Emerging Profile
As the news of Austin Sigg’s arrest flashed through the town of 18,000 and then the Nation, those that knew him or claimed to know him well, hit the web. Below are the highlights that portray a picture of an adolescent exhibiting signs worthy of
Sarah Moravec, a Standley Lake High School senior, says she picked on 17-year-old Austin Sigg nearly every day for having a high-pitched voice.
“I picked on him a lot,” Moravec said. “Austin was just different. So, why not pick on the different people? But then again, I was bullied whenever I was younger.”
The Standley Lake senior said Sigg often wore dark clothing and hung out at the back of the cafeteria with others.
“We didn’t even think he was somebody our age,” Moravec said. “We thought it was some 45-year-old pervert or something like that.”
“Danni”- a girl who dated Sigg twice and spent time with him at Warehouse 180, a meeting place for Christian teens.
“He was sweet. I knew he had like a weapons collections, swords and knives, but it was just like his man cave.
Christy Mueller- walking on the trail around Standley Lake recently, encountered Sigg and a few friends. She felt immediately as if he was up to something.
…” I just felt as soon as I saw him he was up to something, if he (her dog) was not here I am afraid of what might have happened…”
Meaghan Barker was Sigg’s lab partner at Warren Tech-
…” We learned about DNA analysis, finger printing, hair follicles and decomposition…”
Someone claiming to love Austin Sigg and a fellow victim of bullying that Sigg helped, started a face book page in support of Sigg late yesterday and said that he may have confessed because he knew whoever else was involved could not be caught. He went on to ask forgiveness for his friend and called the act satanic.
Although an avid gamer under the tag dohastvath, there are no current online stats exist past June 2010. Sigg’s voice can be heard here, he plays Yoshi in this YouTube series with two other boys where he repeatedly expresses he is not gay and references a disturbing knowledge of bondage and graphic sexual devices and situations. The series was uploaded in 2009.
It is clear that Austin Sigg has a slight speech impediment, and indeed, an efeminite vocal tone at 14.
Yesterday during the press conference Jefferson County Prosecutor Scott Storey announced that further charges were possible in connection with Ridgeway’s murder and the investigation is ongoing.
The autopsy of Jessica Ridgeway’s remains located on October 10th are complete pending forensic and toxicology testing, however, her cause of death , if known, has not been released publicly.
This morning, it was decided that Sigg will be charged as an adult. His next court appearance is scheduled for October 30th. Austin Sigg’s DNA was recovered from Jessica Ridgeway’s backpack.
Please check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for updates to this developing
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In reference to Robert Sigg’s statement: He sure appears to distance himself from his family and then seems to hint that more information will be revealed about ‘his’ son. How could the Ridgeway family ever hope to achieve any kind of peace? Pretty sure that “event” is the worst euphemism I’ve ever heard for murder.
He was certainly busy while his house being searched.
B
Does a parent really deserve to be commended for making the right call. It sounds as though maybe the family was just holding its breath, walking on egg shells hoping Austin wouldn’t crack. He then tells his Mom he’s responsible for this aduction/murder/dismemberment and phones LE. Who wouldn’t have. I would have been so horrified I wouldn’t think there would be a choice. I’d also be racking by brain trying hard to remember the whos, whats, wheres and whens of my son.
Excellent Scared Monkeys piece.
Imo a child porn addiction needed a year of inpatient treatment. He probably had some Christian counselor
at church who didn’t realize “counseling” was insufficient. All electronics needed to be removed from home too.
Remember Tiger? His inpatient stay I felt then for allied addictions was too short. Why is it children and poor can’t access inpatient treatment the rich can buy when society needs protection from addicts?
Since he appears to have been a GT student whose school never gave him GT setvices, I expect
he was shunted off to the Tech HS after legal trouble at the mainstream HS. I wouldn’t be surprised if
he was barred from that campus because he tried to access porn from school computers or showed it
to someone there. I bet the transfer was part of the terms of dropping charges.
Actually the school system had an obligation to place him in residential treatment with his
GT/ED/and probably more. But a Court has to order it and that’s a hard fight. I know of one
girl from DC who got inpatient residential from the school district for a year, but it took a pro bono attorney from a major DC firm. We haven’t figured out it’s cheaper to treat inpatient as a child from school monies & medicaid than the socialcrime costs (murders) and decades in prison.
Anyone read Lackberg’s the Stonecutter? I’m reminded of one son’s attraction to dead bodies.
Also, recently heard this World Science Festival talk on NPR. Neuroanatomist researcher
Fallon speaks on intersection of brain function, genetic, & environmental contributions to serial killers & psychopaths on this & other talks searchable on you tube.
http://worldsciencefestival.com/videos/moth_confessions_of_a_pro_social_psychopath
http://www.npr.org/templates/text/s.php?sId=127888976&m=1
No. 41 @ Joan T. 4:26 p.m.
I am no expert regarding porn and crime rates, but it seems that the two go together with irresponsible parenting. The following is a true story from my neck of the woods that happened earlier this school year – 12 year old girl rapes 2 of her female sleepover friends, ages 11 & 12. Yes, she was arrested. She comes from a family of professionals, well-to-do, but daddy has a habit – porn. This girl has been exposed and knows way more than other children her age in our rural area. I’m not a fan of sleepovers but they are a social activity everywhere. Here’s my point, no matter who you think you know, you don’t.
The YouTube video that shows Austin Sigg wearing the wooden cross is too creepy. His mother and siblings and friends had to have recognized the cross immediately when pictures of it were released by LE. His mother knew he killed Jessica long before she made the call to police…….I suspect she just didn’t want to believe it.
As this story unfolds, it makes me more nauseated………
Mom3.0,
Thanks so much for your excellent post on Ted Bundy and is porn linked to violent crime?
Mom3.0 says:
October 26, 2012 at 4:22 am
Correction: Austin- not Aaron-
and
this snip should have read:**
he could have donated the money to science to the further study of any correlation between porn or other media and rape and murder* especially the correlation to violent types of media *.. Which is lacking
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I’ve been looking all over the internet for an actual study looking at whether porn is linked to crime, and you’ve given me a few new places to look.
My next question will be about the violent virtual games that are so popular. Sigg played one, I think it’s name is War of the Worlds, and I think the Aurora shooter played that same game. Not to say that every kid who plays these games is going to go out and shoot up a theater, but who knows what other kinds of aggressive and damaging things they do that are within the law?
And it looks like you’re right, that Ted Bundy was trying to put off his execution by telling people what they wanted to hear.
But yes, I think we need scientific studies on these things. And I’m surprised they haven’t been done already in the United States. Maybe the porn and the games aren’t the cause. Maybe violent criminals are that way for other reasons (I’m sure there are many reasons), and because they’re that way, they seek out porn and violent games. But it would be good to know once and for all if this stuff CONTRIBUTES to the way they are. It seems to me that people, especially kids, sometimes imitate what they see in movies and read in books. Or if something is accepted as normal in a book they read, they accept it as normal too.
Really, thanks so much Mom3.0 and Blink.
They have been done, much of that is not available for public release and I will tell you why-
When you are dealing with this type of offender, a majority of them we do not even know exist until they offend.
Many of them are above average intelligence, and are very diligent in their research about the psychology or profiling markers of their “ilk”. Why? To avoid detection or stage an offense to obfuscate investigators.
Recommended reading ( no, I do not receive renumeration from the author, publisher, etc, ) Without conscience- Robert Hare, PHD. I find it is a good and level lay-person read that provides a base understanding, HOWEVER- it is highly relative to criminal acts and the psycopath.
It scares me to hear reference to what I consider cookie cutter profiling and assumptions about seriously disturbed criminals. They count on it, thus my concerns.
B
Probably neither here nor there, but what exactly was the family doing in the USVI back in the summer? Seems like very odd timing for a luxury vacation, no?
Depends on whether or not one is trying to get out of dodge because they might be connected to a crime.
B
i just find odd that all three of these of boys,james holmes ,ari ligget ,austin sigg were mental patients and went over the edge around the same time, obviously the therapy didnt work.what is austin’s therapy backgroung? he went for porn(violent) ,i understand,from the pretzer radio show. ari ligget also had a pat answer , his mother took him out of the will ,was that true? just wondering if these events pyschologically triggered each other.
Blink, you can’t dangle that morsel over our heads! What, exactly, was Austin’s dad doing as LE searched his home?
The family vacation makes sense (in a sick, denial sort of way) if you think of it as a means to get Austin out of town following the attack on the jogger at the lake– so that he wouldn’t be around to be recognized when/if LE circulated sketches of the attacker in the local news.
And if Mrs. Sigg was filing for bankruptcy at the time of the family’s vacation, then does that mean that dear old dad paid for the trip? Has dad also been buying brooms over the years… brooms with which he/they could sweep Austin’s problems under the rug?
What is Austin’s history in regards to behaviours, crimes committed, etc.? Obviously, juvenile records would be sealed, but surely there are neighbors, teachers, classmates, and members of the community who may have been victims of earlier crimes/behavioral problems or at least seen them.
BP, was not dangling friend- he was in Mexico.
B
doesn’t seem like sigg really cared about getting caught.
mom3.0 — agree completely. bundy at core was a manipulator. why trust anything he said, ever.
Town of 18,000? Westminster is a suburb of Denver of about $180,000. Facts are a little off.
Well then Ms. Williams, thanks for weighing to correct me that the population is $180K, I stand corrected and without a dollar sign.
B
Should read 180,000, not $180,000.
No problem, we all make mistakes
As in, I pen a piece of the brutal murder and dismemberment of a child and you felt compelled to correct the population, which, by the way is 108,000. Editing dropped a zero, clear to any person reading this, but you, who gets it wrong twice anyway.
Food for thought on the critiques, jus saying.
B
Are there levels of being a psychopath? This kid obviously wanted to be caught and when he wasn’t – confessed. But that confuses me. Why did he confess? What would move someone who could do this to confess? Guilt? Scared of being caught? Intellectually I can’t wrap my head around it.
Levels, loosely, not really. You either have that diagnosis or you do not. Based on a psycopathy checklist given by a qualified medical professional as well as the ancillary recsearch of associates, employers and background, etc, it should present the proper markers for differentiating tendencies or other.
Guys, I do not want to stunt interest, this is critical to understanding this type of offender and case, but the reality is, this case is preliminary with many unknowns.
B
I can’t shake the feeling that this kid planned some sort of ‘perfect’ crime. That his interest in CSI is a MAJOR component of all of this. That something will come to light that will be even more shocking than a juvenile perp, and that it is all a part of his plan. That delusions of grandeur factor in mightily.
I’m not sure if that even makes any sense, and it is apropos of nothing, and doesn’t really contribute to this conversation. It just keeps eating at me and I am hoping that putting the thought out there will purge it from my head.
Apologies.
Word Girl
Apologize about the broken link.. Do not know what happened? Try this link http://fox4kc.com/2012/10/25/source-suspect-told-police-jessicas-murder-brought-him-no-joy/. Let me know if this link works. If not I will copy and paste entire article here.
This isnt going to be popular, but here goes…
IMO, blaming porn(even partly) is a copout, not unlike saying “guns are violent”. While porn is not an inanimate object like a gun, and there is a market for porn of a violent nature I am sure, you still need to have that X factor(for lack of a better term and/or phrase)for it’s content to either breed(no pun intended)and or trigger murderous behavior. I honestly think, and this will definitely not be popular, that “outlets”, like porn for sexual deviants and/or pyscho/sociopaths “buys us some time” if you will. I do not pretend to be a professional in this arena, but I have come to believe that without it(porn, video games, horror movies, LARP, etc.), these guys would offend much sooner and probably more often. IOW, it is not a question of if they will offend, but when…
I am not a big fan of sharing personal stories(especially mine), but I happened upon my Dad’s “stash” of Playboys when I was probably 11-12 years old. To steal a line from the late great Leslie Nielson in “The Naked Gun” series, “I found them to be very entertaining”. By the end of high school, I had also seen my share of porn movies. I would say that these experiences most definitely lent themselves to being a little more promiscous at my age than is advised(especially nowadays), but not once did it make me want to kill anyone…in fact just typing that, to me, is ludicrous…
FIRE AWAY….
I will fire away. The comments were based on my interview linked at the top of the page. Did you happen to listen to it? Because I was V E R Y specific that garden variety porn does not a sexual sadist make.
This kid had a porn ADDICTION at 15. By definition, unless the material is objectionable or causes some sort of adverse reaction to the subject, who is treating a 15 year old they yank from school for playboy or victorias secret???
Or for that matter, any porn that cause a deterioration in a kids mental health or is used by the subject to further a fanstasy continuum because he has married the arousal of himself with violent imagery and ultimately acts of some kind.
I am referring to, and said so very succinctly last night, the profile of a sexual sadist.
Basic equation= Porn to a normal adolescent without the profile (general term) is not escalating.
Basic porn to someone with this profile= advances quickly to images of sexual violence (broad term) and discover a connection to arousal. Because they are likely psyco or sociopaths, it is sadly one of the only connections allowing them to “emote”, which is not actually emoting. It is singularly focused.
Violent Porn= someone in this profile is using this imagery and fantasy to build his own, and the more complex the fantasy, the more complex the offender. At 17, if this offender is already complex, in profiling terms, he is a first. However, if it is not, he is fledgling and unfortunately his previous care is likely going to show this was predictable.
I seriously know you to be a critical thinker slow- I have zero idea where you get the porn buying time concept whatsoever. Again , with much respect, You absolutely stated you are not a professional in this area, but I would appreciate anyone weighing in to this issue listen to my actual comments.
I feel a professional responsibility when I make them, and therefore context and accuracy is critical to me.
That is seriously going to piss me off.
in review, some basic overviews in general terms:
http://www.forensicpsychiatry.ca/paraphilia/sadism.htm
B
EDITED TO ADD: SLOW, i AM REPLYING TO A POST OF MOM3.0 WHICH MADE ME COME BACK HERE AND LOOK AT MY RESPONSE. I WAS BRISK, AND I ALREADY APOLOGIZED BUT AT THE RISK OF A GOOD SATURDAY EVENING BETWEEN FRIENDS, I NOTE THE THAT WILL SERIOUSLY PISS ME OFF COMMENT WAS OUT OF ORDER TO THE TEXT, I LITERALLY FORGOT TO PASTE IT BACK WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO, IN CONTEXT.
AS IN, WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE READ:
However, if it is not, he is fledgling and unfortunately his previous care is likely going to show this was predictable. That is seriously going to piss me off.
That said, you are one hell of a sport slowroller, class act for giving me the benefit of the doubt and thank you.
LOL, not funny but damn, this would be one hell of a learning blog if I swore at everyone who did not already know everything I did
You have earned one get out of mod free card . Thank you Mom3.0 for pointing that out. Phew.
B
Black Pearl says:
…The family vacation makes sense (in a sick, denial sort of way) if you think of it as a means to get Austin out of town following the attack on the jogger at the lake– so that he wouldn’t be around to be recognized when/if LE circulated sketches of the attacker in the local news….
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It’s also possible mom knew she was going to be filing bankruptcy so she planned a family vacation knowing she would not have an opportunity to do it again for many years as her credit would not allow for it.
Austin, knowing they would be leaving town for vacation, chose that time to attack the woman jogger intentionally. It may be his mother’s timing was not to hide anything but rather a timing Austin himself chose.
If she did that it is bankruptcy fraud.
B
Am I incorrect in thinking that there was a great deal of informaion available to the public from LE as compared to most other cases? There was a huge discussion going on about the DNA connection to the two crimes. (Think back to Morgan Harrington and Blinks involvement and help.) I wonder if this progressed the arrest of AS? There is no question that AS was aware of this discussion and I am certain he followed the discussions on line. It is my understanding that he was swabbed earlier in the investigation of Jessica’s murder. Did he fess up not from guilt buy because he wanted his mother to again get him out of Dodge. Mom had no choice unless she also was willing to disappear. I also wonder if Ari Legett and AS have any reason that there paths may have crossed. Treatment?
None. Not that the public is not uber helpful , but there was no tip based on LE effort that led him to them, although I am starting to see versions of “we would have gotten him eventually, he was on our radar.”
I never discuss interactions with LE as a standard, but I will say that they had no idea who was tied to that cross, none whatsoever.
B
so,i question,whether the mom knew about the abduction attempt at the lake and ,and made moves for a bankruptcy ,and took an offshore luxury vacation.wow ,fearing a lawsuit.the domestic violence by the father ,hmmm,how bad was it.
It is my own opinion that this will not have been his first offense. If he told the police that the act of killing Jessica did not bring him the joy he thought it would, doesn’t it seem that this would not be his first killing? After all, the reasons (stated by caught criminals) the offenders continue killing and then escalate is the fact “merely” killing their prey no longer gives them the euphoria it once did. Then again, maybe I am looking too hard for some sense or reason for this perverse insanity that has struck our nation so hard.
Depends on the motivations of the offender. It is not cookie cutter. But in a general sense, the actual kill for some offenders is always a disappointment, or the least arousing aspect.
At any rate, I would not believe a word this boy said until he has had a full panel and it is evaluated by experts both in the field, and those that have had extensive experience interviewing this potential profile.
B
My thoughts,prayers and support are with Jessica’s family. The Denver area must feel relief that the killer as turned himself in. There is no relief for Jessica’s family, thier daughter and grandaughter and family does not get to have a good ending to this. So many many families completely ruined by this selfish pos. Just sad all around:(
Eventually it may be that LE’s leads would have led them back to the murderer. How was it in the Sigg house when this search took place? With this search, the cross, the community and Le presence pressure became to much, the suspect may have just figured it was a matter of time before they came back for him. Perhaps, LE took his DNA at this time. I sure would like to know why LE looked at him?
One other question I have and I have alot. I saw that Austin attended a accredited forensic science school. Did he apply elsewhere, or visit any others, say Pima Community College, near Isabel Celis? How long is it before CODIS has checked unsolved cases with DNA with someone who was not in the system before?
DENVER – 9Wants to Know has learned police searched Austin Sigg’s home and even talked to the 17-year-old just days after the disappearance of 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway.
Contact was made with Sigg during a 400-home search for the Westminster girl.
Hundreds took part in the search. They focused on the area between Highway 128 and Highway 93, including Eldorado Canyon in Boulder.
Sigg appeared in court Thursday morning. He is suspected of killing and dismembering Jessica.
9Wants To Know confirmed Wednesday partial remains were found at the house where the suspect was arrested.
According to FBI statistics, investigators often have contact with the killer before the person becomes the primary suspect.
(KUSA-TV © 2012 Multimedia Holdings Corporation)
So, is Mr. Sigg (Austin’s dad) back in the good ole USA or still basking in he sunshine of Mexico?
I noticed on the picture and description of the cross that there were three vertical lines etched into the cross. Looking at the picture it looked simliar to a “notch on a bedpost” type thing to me. Could he have been marking his victims and perhaps this was his third?? ugh
If I am reading correctly, LE went from house to house in the neighborhood, questioning the neighbors.
Did they, or should they, have taken dogs with them? Maybe they did not go inside the homes, but would the bloodhounds have possibly found her scent in his home?
Ideally, they would have to clear the area to limit other scent “competition” and I doubt highly since there was snow and the amount of time that had passed it would have been effective.
HOWEVER- once they learned body parts were missing, they absolutely could have used cadaver k-9 for areas of interest.
B
Thanks for your views in the Podcast Blink
Did not have time until late evening today to listen.
There were some things you covered that were not known to me regarding the perp.
The fact that he was removed from his regular High School and transferred to the alternate school because of a porn addiction.
We have zero information about his behavior that lead up to the transfer.
Did the family actually take the vacation for the purpose of getting him out of town following the attack on the 22 year old female jogger? If that is true, then they knew about it and played protection of his acts. That could or should make them an accomplice to the crime via a cover up.
I agree with your assesment of why and how the police were called. I think that the mother found something or missed something in the house or on the perp that made made her begin to ask questions. She may have told him that she would not cover for him again. The fact that the cross was his and found at the crime scene may have been the trigger for the confrontation.
If the father left the home when Austin was six, then whatever dammage to his son was accomplished prior to that time. There is some indication that Austin is smart though with warped thinking. Smart children often are aware of things in the family prior to age six. If he was physically or mentally abused, it may never be corrected.
The description of how he abducted Jessica made me sick. She should have been taught to watch traffic and be prepared to run to the nearest dwelling if she saw such an event. This has to be drilled into their minds over and over for it to be effective.
Some have said that the marks found on the back of the cross could indicate the number of victims this guy has attacked. It may mean that or it may mean something else entirely.
If Austin thought he could enter into a program that involved forensics or any other similar activity without a through background check, he probably got a big suprise. He probably discovered this would make him inelgible because of his problem with porn. Could this be the thing that triggered his attack on the jogger and Jessica?
Was he going to try and prove he was smarter than the police like BTK?
BTK had taken many classes in Criminal Justice although I do not know if he ever completed the course.
I was floored to hear he gave a DNA sample, and the house was searched early on.
He was back on the web heavy in 2012, but just a few posts.
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It’s also possible mom knew she was going to be filing bankruptcy so she planned a family vacation knowing she would not have an opportunity to do it again for many years as her credit would not allow for it.
Austin, knowing they would be leaving town for vacation, chose that time to attack the woman jogger intentionally. It may be his mother’s timing was not to hide anything but rather a timing Austin himself chose.
If she did that it is bankruptcy fraud.
B
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Yep, a family is struggling financially so they go on a Caribbean vacay then come home and file bankruptcy?
@Joan T: as a graduate student I have access to all sorts of peer-reviewed academic journals and am working on a search of peer-reviewed studies for you on pornography and crime…
Thank you Lyndsay, my non-textbook literature and FBI case file documents are all either copyrighted or confidential and not subject to publication. I will put together a list of recommended reading for publicly available sources , however. Thank You.
B
@Joan T: Here is one study – the abstract states that harsh parenting, combined with exposure to pornography increases sexual coercion in college age men.
http://0-search.proquest.com.ilsprod.lib.neu.edu/docview/1020639301?accountid=12826
Here’s another interesting study – they did a lifecourse/longitudinal study to examine the effects of pornography over time and found that in particular, adolescent exposure to pornography was a significant predictor of the elevation of violence.
http://0-www.sciencedirect.com.ilsprod.lib.neu.edu/science/article/pii/S0047235211001103
Lyndsay, I believe you need log-in for those links to work.
Here are some general abstracts:
http://is4k.com/press-releases/violent-pornography-linked-to-sexually-aggressive-behavior-in-children-and-adolescents/
A really good read which references traits of other offenders- pay attention to Ed Kemper’s “making a doll of them.”
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/notorious/tick/lust_7.html
B
I didn’t t realize I would get both barrels!!!
I had not listened to your interview prior to my previous post. So I didn’t realize I was inadvertently responding to commentary based on such. My apologies.
Re my “belief”: It is based in ignorance, and zero fact. I just “feel” that the violence and perversion is satiated for the moment versus promoting escalation. That’s all.
Also good to know I am not a sexual sadist by professional definition. Lol
Lol Slowroller if I double barreled you I apologize.
In this profile, which you are definitely not,
, the burdgeoning teen is never satiated by the escalation from porn, to violent porn, to likely compliant partner to acting out because they are figuring out that their connection to “feeling” is rooted in the torture, pain, and suffering of others as their sexual release.
Sorry for the graphic comments but if I were to quantify the single biggest marker of a sexual sadist in training , out of 30 in the US in custody in an FBI study conducted by Roy Hazelwood, Park Dietz and Ann Warren, 90% of them reported this type of porn escalation scenario.
Once again, we have a kid exhibiting every sign of the worst possible profile of sexually motivated offenders at a YOUNG age, and he gets stopped once, and has an oppty to act out again, ending the life of a little girl- and that is just what we know. I hope that he is telling the truth about how quickly she died, but has anyone considered the fact that they were able to conduct an autopsy on a torso that he claims he strangled?
That’s not really possible if her death was strangulation and her autopsy was completed based on pending tox. That tells me either her COD was undetermined, or the remains recovered yielded a COD by some finding. It is true that 75% of these offenders strangle their victims, but not without significant torture, and antimortum findings.
I dont believe he was just driving down the street and encountered this girl.
B
Apparently Austin Sigg uploaded a YouTube video trolling past the scene of Jessica’s body & uploaded it the day after she was discovered. Seems like he found some “joy” in his game…
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981725642
Note that it was posted PRIOR to LE identification of her the next day.
Hat tip to Kermit on SM for finding this:
http://www.reddit.com/user/lostwithinboredom
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13607.msg1544115#msg1544115
B
OMG- I saw that video! How awful!
LL44 says:
October 27, 2012 at 10:01 am
Apparently Austin Sigg uploaded a YouTube video trolling past the scene of Jessica’s body & uploaded it the day after she was discovered. Seems like he found some “joy” in his game…
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981725642
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I hope that the WM truck that was left at the scene for some time had video of all gawkers who trolled the area.
is it true that he was one the 400 who gave their dna ,voluntarily?
Yes. ala Paul Bernado.
B
So if he gave DNA, were they closing in on him, thus the confession? What was the delay if they had DNA on Jessica’s body?
The DNA on her person so far has only been reported by one outlet, and was not introduced in court, which would surprise me. The DNA they referenced was on the bookbag.
That said, the DNA on her person (if found) could be part of the ongoing and possible future charges so they may hold that.
He was a CSI student, he knew eventually they would nab him through his DNA yes, but we are assuming that he did not want to get caught, which is premature.
B
via cadillac’s question,his house was searched early on?,with or without the k-9′s?if they had the k-9′s, wouldnt they have found the remains in the cooler?
I dont believe he was just driving down the street and encountered this girl.
B
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Nor do I. He watched her, knew what side of the street she walked on, knew what time she would be there, and knew she would be alone.
He had made prior abduction attempts. He was done attempting and ready to actually do it, realized more planning would need to occur, maybe knew his mom would be gone and he would have access to her vehicle and time alone that weekend. He stalked this baby girl, IMO.
OMG, notice the little girl walking on the RH shoulder at 1:07 in video…driver/videographer appears to make some kind of slurping sound upon his noticing her…I am freaked the F out!
I do not believe that is a little girl slow.
B
AND, just WTF is that little girl doing walking ALONE!!!
he knew eventually they would nab him through his DNA yes, but we are assuming that he did not want to get caught, which is premature.
B
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Blink, what motivates some killers to want to be caught?
Broad question, I am not aware that it is intentional v subconcious, and in this profile, unlikely unless:
1. He wants to control events as per his perceived intention or goal- his message to the world about him.
2. It is part of an overall plan, or part of his fantasy continuum.
3. Access to others like him.
4. Indifference.
5. Torture those he may blame for the way he is
B
OK, perhaps it is an adult female after a second look?
Blink, feel free to delete my last posts if that is an adult…
If you look at the video frame-by-frame you can see the letter “P”, presumably from the word “JEEP”, on the very first frame at time marker 0:00.
LL44 says:
October 27, 2012 at 10:01 am
Apparently Austin Sigg uploaded a YouTube video trolling past the scene of Jessica’s body & uploaded it the day after she was discovered. Seems like he found some “joy” in his game.
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http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981725642
I do believe that it is a jeep however regarding it being Siggs…
If you look at frame 19 there is nothing hanging from rear view mirror.
http://photos.denverpost.com/2012/10/24/photos-austin-reed-sigg-arrested-in-connection-of-jessica-ridgeway/#14
If you look at picture
14 there is stuff hanging from the rear view mirror.
Ode-
re your link and pic- # 35
http://photos.denverpost.com/2012/10/24/photos-austin-reed-sigg-arrested-in-connection-of-jessica-ridgeway/#35
is a very sad and telling photo.
mosaic, I noticed that you can see the whole word Jeep in that minus-1 second frame. The perpetrator was very careful not to show himself, though the accidental Jeep reveal may or may not have been his intent. Thanks for pointing it out because I might not have gone over that video so closely–there comes a point where the macabre wins.
Regardless, his trip through the killing fields was not because of a guilty conscience.
Back to the video: His hands were not seen on the steering wheel; the rear-view mirror was tilted up (for night driving, hmm) and the passenger side mirror was in driving position and didn’t reveal a glimpse of the killer, either.
Emotion ebbed and flowed strongly in that video.
The movements of the camera (especially jerky in the scene with the white media truck and satellite post extended), the car straying over the center line, the sudden ending of the video–all clues to emotional state. (Reminded me of C Word walking into court.)
The video ends when it looks like there is a roadblock or stop-and-talk ahead. Can you imagine the cold-blooded killer sauntering through the crime scene and not blinking when asked questions? Not a hesitation in giving DNA?
Sigg tried to keep LE from–or slow them down–in identifying the child by removing fingerprints and teeth (the body parts that hold that dna) yet continued to appear in public. Was that a taunt?
This perp has been sick for a very long time, I’m afraid. Too bad, because he’s bright and may have contributed to society some day.
I’m kinda scratching my head on this one, though. There must be a rage element I’m missing; or there is something off with his presentation. Of course, I’m a newbie, but it seems he physically appears a lot more mature that he is (yet enjoyed play with younger children), and his parental abandonment (by both parents) was manifested in his taking of a child.
All of that is very complex and not necessarily applicable here.
The pathology of Austin Sigg is dark. I’m not glossing over his suggested psychosis–it’s just complicated.
Here’s a short video by ID, but not for those adversely affected by these sorts of things.
http://investigation.discovery.com/videos/very-bad-men-why-would-a-murderer-dismember-a-victim.html
sorry…I was feeling ill when I wrote teeth and fingers holding dna–I meant ‘holding identifiers.’
I keep saying wow, just wow, over this case.
To Jessica’s family, once again I offer my condolences. May the little girl who was “kind to everyone” rest in heavenly peace.
Ode: Could it be that he took down the stuff hanging from his rearview so that it wouldn’t obstruct the view?
But I think you might be on to something….might not be Austin Sigg who recorded this.
I watched the other videos posted by Lostwithinboredom. If Austin Sigg is the one recording the “Art of Annoyance”, he seems to “fit in” very well with these other guys. It’s incongruent with the dark, shy image that’s been painted of him.
Same with the Pizza video. It actually sounds like a girls voice, giggling at the end. (Hmmm….)
Did Sigg take Physics in the spring of this year?
Blink- I dont want to piss you off further- as you know I hold you and your work in very high-esteem
So I hope you wont take offense to my further attempts at trying to gain a further understanding of your knowledge base and stance. ( please see my edited response to slowroller, and I thank you for turning my attention to my bad edit. I was not pissed at anyone, I meant to say I would be pissed if all the markers were there, and this was predictable, and I fear that will happen.)
For the record I want to state that I do understand how there could be a correlation between violence in media- and violence of an offender- but I think it has more to do with the offenders twisted nature and less to do with what game or movie or magazine they watched after all there have been rapist and murderers long before there was ever printed words or television/movies or photography or role playing games etc.
I feel as thought I have been very succinct ( or as much as one can be- let’s face it, how easy is it for any normal yet critical thinking person to REALLY understand the complexities of subject matter that is foreign or offensive to us-) in describing I am talking about a personality profile relative to the psycopathy of a sexual sadist. This is the rarest profile, ergo it is the rarest to study. By the very definition of the fact it is likely they go undetected, and if they are, are highly resistant to participate in a study, we can only use the empirical data and the case studies associated.
I struggle with the issue of providing more study-based examples here, because folks will be able to determine what cases I am referring to, and I am precluded from discussing case confidential material.
I Just wanted to let you know I did listen to your interview and as always I learned alot. My comments on Ted Bundy were in no way meant to call into question whether or not you were “V E R Y specific that garden variety porn does not a sexual sadist make.”
I understood each any every point you were making.
My post was in answer to JoanTs post
I wanted to share some facts about Ted Bundy whom you sited in your interview-
IMO he was not being truthful- but instead giving a self serving interview in which he chose the reporter, a staunch supporter of “Porn is bad” because Ted planned on throwing the blame onto pornography, and he needed someone who would share this message without challenge.
I am not saying I dont believe their is a correlation between violent porn and the sexual sadist- only that there havent been many studies and of those we do have, most seem to be slanted one way or the other before the interviews even begin… and still no real study of teens has been conducted–as you said:
“When you are dealing with this type of offender, a majority of them we do not even know exist until they offend.”
“Many of them are above average intelligence, and are very diligent in their research about the psychology or profiling markers of their “ilk”. Why? To avoid detection or stage an offense to obfuscate investigators.”
Agreed.
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Blink
I am not aware of these studies to which you and Lyndsay have read in your graduate studies, and I dont think Slowroller, nor JoanT, nor most of your contributors have access to these studies either. So I dont think we nor you can hold us at fault for that. Was never my intent. Quite the opposite, I am trying to impart data as this case unfolds that I pray will hit some parent like a virtual boomerang and seek help for a kid that is headed down that path. OR some parent who entrusts their children even for a brief interim or has exposure to a like profile. If I am projecting how deeply I fear this type of offender it is because I absolutely do, more than any other. Yes Virginia, there is a boogeyman.
I realize there are studies such as the one I mentioned in which it was found in some cases that explicit sexual materials of a nonviolent nature, actually curtail the aggressive tendencies in subjects prone to such-
So my point was to show that we cant rely on Ted Bundys word or on just the Demark study or on The Meese report so certainly we need more unbaised scientific studies done Especially those of which can be publicly shared-
Totally agree.
Otherwise we the public are left in the dark
Because the knowledge you are trying to impart to us- has not been outhtere nor can we judge it for ourselves- and that unfortunately leaves both you and us frustrated-
Nooone is trying to piss you off Blinky, we are all just trying to understand same as you.
TMK we dont know what this kids background is and isnt- what is the definition of a “porn addiction?” To some a 15 year old with the bathroom locked for hours would consider that a “porn addiction” to others it would just be part of growing up-
To a very religious family any amount of looking at porn would be considered worthy of intervention and psychiatric help
Was Austin into violent porn. Is this a fact?-
I cant find where this detail is documented- his records are sealed- so how can we be sure there was an escalation from porn, to violent porn, to likely compliant partner to acting out? How can we be sure what exactly is his “porn addiction” looking every day- 5- ten times a day? what constitutes a porn addiction for anyone, let alone a 15 year old?
Blink how can we be sure that the interest in pornography wasnt helping to curtail his violent tendencies as was shown in some studies? How can we be sure that he didnt begin to act out once he was “cured” of the porn addiction- not BECAUSE of it?
IMO We just do not have enough info at this point to disregard anything as possible as you said earlier about this case
“The possibilities are endless without distilling information”
We need more unbaised Studies that are solely dedicated to this subject.. because right now for every study, we the public are aware of- that shows a link, there are more that show no correlation.
Slowroller thank you for having the courage to share an opinion- I am sure Blink was not pissed at you just frustrated because she was being very specific and I took everyone off on a tangent- my apologies to you Slowroller.
Blink thank you for sharing the FBI study – and Lyndsay thanks for trying to share some of your peer reviewed info- but Blink one study of only 30 US convicted and in custody offenders where about 25 of those interviewed reported this type of porn escalation scenario, is not a very indepth study is it? I mean there are 100s of convicted offenders why only 30? Because only 30 fit the very specific controls for the study- again, the rarest of profile will yield the rarest particpation or cross section of available offenders.
If the FBI looked at more offenders, would they find that the report of escalation of porn was still at 90% or would it drop? More sexual sadists- no way.
What are the other factors involved? Were they looked at also or was it only pornography? Were these also apparent in the 30 person study? And would these factors prove out to be present in a broader # of offenders?
Was/is bullying in 100% of them? Is a broken/dysfunctional and or abusive family in 100% of them? Is sexual abuse reported by 100% of them?
Is failed psychiatric care in all of them? Is it a combination of factors? No bullying not a factor and no to failed psych care as you stated it, there are markers for sex abuse/homosexual encounters, etc, that I would consider how they were dealt with, if they ever were, in that category, but no not as a separate and distinct item.
I mean there are 100s of thousands of people who watch soft and hard core pornography and never show this type of escalation, ( do you have a study or link for that, or do you know hundreds of thousands of non-escalating porn watchers- heart u. but making a point from the goose to the gander) just as there are many who come from broken homes and or abusive families and some who have been molested that never go on to be rapists and murderers…. so can we all be sure that the correlation between any or all of these factors is undoubtedly the formula for a potential offender? I am not understanding your question or reference, again, I am solely discussing sexual sadists.
Blink my questioning or these studies is in no way a slight to you or your knowledge base nor am I trying to lessen the severity of this issue- especially not IRT how it relates to Austin and Jessicas case.
I want the answers the unbiased facts so we can prevent our children from being victims and from being perpetrators-
More studies need to be done and shared..
Agreed, but to your point, the public the best possible info, and some of that might have to be in the form of assumptions as a protective measure.
I am going to take a break now from the board as my mouth seems to be getting me into more and more trouble. I am confident that you and your contributors will continue to do good work and will continue to advocate for the victims and their families.
I hope we cleared this up, and don’t go soft on me- you are not allowed. I swore years ago I would never cover kids cases, they were too hard for me, and you can see how that played out. Don’t make me quote my Mum and my fave shared quote
PS Blink just wanted to let you know that BOC you were one of the first that stumbled onto that video early on even before Austin was arrested- although we didnt know it was video from the offender we did note its strangeness-
-it just goes to show you that we were all on the trial- and I would like to think we have helped LE in a # of cases- who knows perhaps on other threads in other cases there has been a sharing of info and ideas links that with hindsight will prove the same
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Mom3.0 says:
October 22, 2012 at 2:51 am
I am Also including this short youtube video which shows the area leading up to where jessicas remains were found- not sure exactly how close the person got before the video ends- strange vid IMO
Not much said or shown…It does show the neighborhoods the weather and the police presence searchers etc-
it would seem the perp had to have been comfortable in the area –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Ri-dc54GE&feature=related
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Keep on Keeping on
Peace
AJMO
ps just wanted to point out at the time the video was first posted it only had 78 views-
I hope LE was one of them.
AJMO
Peace
Hi,
I would like to know if anyone was at the house after he kidnapped Jessica as they didnt call the police until tuesday?, is this correct?
thanks in advance,
I am just wondering if he had her at the house for a day or two?
this case is just so sad, even though I wish the death penalty could be used in this case, I do wonder what were these parents doing while their son turned into a viscious preditor?