Jodi Arias Trial: New Witnesses May Reveal Defense Strategy- Prosecution Omissions
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Phoenix, AZ- In a terse exchange prior to the hiatus in the Arias trial, the defense repeated their contention that they want The Honorable Sherry Stephens to order a directed verdict or a mistrial in the State’s case against Jodi Arias.
As reported exclusively by BOC it does seem the prosecution missed quite a bit of potential evidence including a possible motive- the duct tape around Travis’s right arm. Was it the final straw that made Jodi Arias snap as she was allegedly taking photos of Travis in the shower without his knowledge?
There was also an exparte hearing held in Judge Stephen’s chambers, however, the contents of those minutes have not yet been filed- although the docket suggests they have. The defense is now testing Jodi Arias’s canon camera for some undisclosed reason.
With the defense preparing to start its case next week in spite of the outstanding motions before the court- have the prosecution’s actions harmed their case?
The issue at the forefront seems to hinge on something that the prosecution never introduced- On Purpose, says Prosecutor Juan Martinez.
The prosecution’s very first witness, Maria Hall, who was the female friend attending the Cancun trip with Alexander on June 10th, told the court that Travis told her he had been stalked while on a date with another girl and had his tires slashed. The intimation before the court was clear regardless of the defense attempts to point out that Travis never said it was Jodi who was responsible.
Nancy Grace and Jane Velez Mitchell lit up their HLN evening roster discussing Arias’s stalker behavior with several associates of Alexander. Dr. Karl Hiatt said one Sunday he was told that he had his tires slashed and that it was possible that something might escalate and he may not show up for dinner as a result.
Outside the presence of the jury Juan Martinez argued that they did not call the witness who Travis was on that particular date with because he did not want to create “an inflammatory” situation for the jury causing an appellate issue.
However, Martinez also lets it slip that Lisa Andrews Daidone does not want to testify and the defense tells the judge the prosecution has withheld her contact information from them and THEY intend to call her. Daidone recently deleted her FB profile and other social media sites in her name.
Does it make any sense to anyone why a prosecutor would not call a witness who could place a dangerous weapon in the hands of a person committing a destructive and openly violent act who they allege is guilty of doing exactly that for exactly the same reasons in the instant case?
From Daidone’s bog entry in 2008:
”…So because Heavenly Father allowed this to happen, I have grown in such a way that I couldn’t have otherwise, or at least not as quickly. While if you asked me a few months from now if I could go back would I change it, I would say “Absolutely,” I’m not sure how much I would actually change about it. Of course I wouldn’t want Travis to be taken. I might even opt for Jodi to be popped instead. But who am I to decide the fate of the hundreds of people that have been effected by this? It’s hard
to say which way is better. Travis always talked about Opportunity Cost. He spoke of how his time could be used best, to benefit the maximum amount of people. I’m sure he wishes he could have done more while he was here, but I don’t think he regrets leaving. He is doing something amazing up in the Spirit World. I know it. I can feel it. He is continuing to learn and progress. He’s helping others to do the same. He is the same wonderful, creative, spontaneous, caring, gentle, driven, foe- paint-loving, show-tune-singing man that I fell in love with…”
Is it because in the 48 Hours Mystery program so frequently noted by the defense Detective Flores openly states there was no evidence whatsoever that Jodi was involved in that incident after he repeats his theory that Travis was shot first? Both these statements made by the lead detective in the case on national television directly conflict with the prosecution’s case as testified by Esteban Flores.
NO.
Is it because they already know who was responsible for the multiple tire slashing incidents and presenting that information might corroborate a story told to them by Arias in the past?
In her own words, Lisa Andrews Daidone began dating Travis Alexander in July 2007. According to the minutes filed from trial January 16th, the tire slashing incident was in December 2007, both Alexander and Andrew’s tires were slashed and the individual came to the front door . Martinez states Andrews will testify to these facts. Prior to dating Alexander, Daidone was dating a common friend and member of their Mormon ward- Steve Bell. Arias claims she and Travis began dating February 2, 2007.
Daidone will not go into how she and Travis began dating, or why, but there is a Steve Bell connected to this group that has had some serious troubles with the law immediately preceding the break up, and many following.
Could the mystery stalker have been on her end and NOT Arias? If so, you can bet the defense will be bringing that issue into court next week and providing the jury with this eye opening gem- expected to cause further problems with the State’s theory.
That’s not all, unfortunately.
Thomas Brown, a former roommate of Travis Alexander in the home of his murder, was interviewed up to three times by Detective Flores whereby he told them that Jodi had open access to the home when he was around and the Arias he knew was completely shy and somewhat awkwardly withdrawn. He was having a hard time picturing her do this without help and he told cops that.
He also told them something about Travis being shocked to get the call that Jodi Arias was standing outside the home the early morning hours of June 4, 2008 and that he had been up all night performing some sort of protection rite. Brown’s information was not included in any information given to the defense and he was not even aware his name came up in the investigation by Jodi Arias herself. I would expect that issue to surface promptly as well.
Gus Searcy, $100K ring earner for Prepaid Legal Services and now Legal Shield was noticed to be available this week for interview. Travis was scheduled to be on the conference call with Searcy at 6:45PM the evening of his murder.
Artful Dodging
While the trial is in hiatus, one are of Jodi Arias’s life is quite active and well, pecuniary.
Arias, through her family, has taken to EBay to sell her personally rendered offerings the macabre set is snatching up for a few hundred clams a piece during the trial.
It is believed to be managed by Arias’s mother Sandy, who uploaded images to Arias’s MySpace after her incarceration to include one of Gary Alexander- Travis’s older brother.
The defense portion of the Jodi Arias trial for the murder of Travis Alexander led by Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott will begin its case January 29th.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates.
Jacqueline Beaufort, contributing editor
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Wow Blink. You amaze me. Wonderful work as usual.
TY,OSU
B
Where was this guy living at the time of the tire slashings?
Where was Jodi living at the time of the tire slashings?
Are there any records of her work commitments at that time?
Jodi- Palm Desert, CA
Travis- same home
Andrews- Mesa (not posting)
Bell- Mesa (not posting)
B
Blink, the facebook post by Thomas Brown? Where did it come from and was he talking about a date other than June 4th? Travis told him that he had some sort of “spiritual prompting” to stay up for protection? I think “spiritual prompting” is Mormon for gut feeling, and Travis was afraid.
Wow. I guess gut feelings don’t count as evidence, but I’ve wondered about this exactly. I’ve wondered was Jodi sending off all sorts of signals, other than the slashed tires, and a guy especially, isn’t going to go to the police saying his intuition is telling him she’s going to hurt him, but he knew. So sad and scary.
Do we know if this comment is true?
I can only say what it reads- and I believe it matches the evidence.
B
It should read JFelonyArt.com. I know, she’s not charged but in cozy, comfy lil world, she’s the wicked witch of the west!
Great piece, friendLY. I must admit, I’m not sure if you’re adding Daidone to the mix of possible stalkers or if she was someone avoiding JA at all costs.
JMHO
I think I was more about the possibility of ringing a bell .
B
PS…and why wasn’t TB called in as a character witness for TA?
Ok my mind is spinning….Blink your article…just wow…and then Nancy Grace breaking story that JA had a rental car with her books, 2 knifes and ammunition for a 9 millimeter gun and then later find a 9 millimeter gun in the car hidden (apparently after the car is returned) WTH. They do not initially find the gun but JA’s mother calls and asks about what happened to the gun? Is this prosecution a joke? I want to scream mistrial because of an inept prosecution. Does that ever happen, I doubt it. What a snafu…situation normal all effed up. This is just beyond belief.
This is people who have taken the time apparently to understand reasonable doubt. I look forward to getting confirmed facts on what NG is reporting.
B
NG = sensationalism and over blown ego. Not the best source for facts, folks.
And if Thomas Brown IS talking about the morning of June 4, which it sounds like he is, then he was there with Travis when Jodi showed up, and he is a witness to Travis being afraid of her. I wonder why he wasn’t called as a witness.
Thanks for the upate. It was mentioned earlier that Travis had a dog. If so, where was the dog during the crime and afterwards?
If Jodi had a 9mm pistol and ammunition in her car she could be carrying for multiple reasons. This brings up the use of the .25 cal. pistol in the crime. Is the 9mm registered to Jodi and the .25 cal. is either a black market purchase or stolen. More loose ends.
The paintings are technically good, but remind me of the type of work done for movie theatre ads. There is no life in them. The light source is directed to areas that make the eyes appear dead.
Blink i am waiting to hear your radio show because right now my mind is going in a hundred different directions
I hope you explain what all this means.
Joan T and Ode I am in agreement.
AJMO
Peace
The problem with a crime like tire slashing or paint scraping unless you grave an independent witness of video surveillance to prove who did it, the police will do nothing.
well they are obligated to file a report, and one would need it for insurance purposes. I agree they are rarely investigated except in this case there were 3 incidents attached to one address, or two individuals.
B
Am I understanding correctly that it wasn’t JA that slashed tires and rang the doorbell in Dec. ’07. Knock, knock. Do tell…who the hell was it – SB? Another unstable person who couldn’t take a breakup? So what’s this Mr. B been up to since then? Did the detective(s) ever question him? I don’t know…these attorneys sure had ample time to investigate, interview and prepare for this trial. I see a lot of questions. Oh, also, I’m surprised having had these problems that Travis didn’t have some type of surveillance camera(s) installed on exterior of his home or that his neighbors didn’t have surveillance cameras. Those houses all seem in close proximity to each other.
To my knowledge SB has never been interviewed- who slashed the tires is in question, but I doubt for long.
B
I just listened to the show. That was great!
Thank you. I was impressed with Dr.Bonn, who was new to me and the show- I liked having the whole hour for one case and the different perspectives- Dana is masterful at what he does.
B
Didn’t Jodi also say, about Thomas Brown, that she thought detectives should look at him because he had been kicked out of the house for deviant behavior?
There was a room mate evicted , but I am not sure which one.
B
I thought I heard a while back that eBay had issued a moratorium on murder/murderers related items and artifactsk
It is not her account and she has not been convicted, although the state is paying for her defense as well.
B
It makes me very sad that JA would be profiting over her drawings of the victim or his family members- It really seems as if she is intent on harming them still.
My thoughts and prayers are with them
–
Okay just finished listening to the show-
Good job
Why would The State not give the defense access to info/witnesses?
I mean Hello A roommate that was there and who Jodi named as a possible perp ? Did I hear that right?
and why are they hiding Linda?
How can we –how can anyone- trust the evidence if the state is filtering it, hoarding it, molding it- before trial even begins-
it really makes me question the other evidence Blink-
can we trust the collection of evidence and the testing of evidence and the presentation of the evidence?
I dont know, its a shame because Travis and his family deserve the best representation-
AJMO
I believe you mean Lisa, and the prosecution would argue they are not, or that she is reluctant to testify- but she is on their subpoena list and the state rested- it wreaks of impropriety unfortunately.
Again, you are hitting on my thorn in my paw of the case- NO, you cannot trust anything when you feel like you are being force-fed information in a manipulative way- forget about the reaction from jurors feeling like they are pawns and not really the triers of facts.
B
Jane says:
January 22, 2013 at 9:39 pm
My guess is that the tire slashing was thought to be done by Bell who was in the same Ward and a friend to Travis, if i read that correctly
Lisa and Bell were still dating or had just stopped dating most likely still..although she was at Travis’ home on a date? when the tires were slashed …
If the Prosecution knew the truth then presented this as if it could have been JA then that is very disingenuous…
and what is with that blog entry of Lisa’s- \
it reads as if she is almost relieved that Travis is gone and that its okay cause in death or with his murder he will reach more people… and her talk of not wanting to go back and change it. .and Lisas referring to the murder of Travis or potential murder of JA as being “popped” as if it was a hit… which one was better??
STRANGE
I get how we all speak of Gods plan..but referring to a heinous murder as Gods will IDK-
I hope I am just misinterpreting it…not just the words but the overall feeling behind it..
AJMO
Peace
Mom3.0, I posted a question for you in the previous JA article.
Was just perusing Jodi’s MySpace page. She and Travis travelled to so many places in the months they were together… they looked happy to be together, and he commented on many of the pics… nice notes of encouragement and compliments. It appears it was more of a relationship than just a “dirty little secret”. I’m not buying the defense. He moved on and she couldn’t take it.
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/22/cops-jodi-arias-was-ready-flee?clusterId=1303#videoplayer
Perhaps I am just really confused or the facts are not straight in this Out Of Session video showing a timeline of officers surveiling and arresting JA. They say she had two knives in a box of her books in the car she had packed. If they exist, were they ever tested? How long did she keep the rental? I understood that she returned it within a couple of days of murdering Travis. The video which also references interrogation video says she purchased the 9mm after Travis’ body was found (and that there was evidence of the purchase found in her grandparents home) yet it was hidden in the rental car? Maybe I need to go back and review.
I think/thought that she DID drive to the middle of the desert, not from running from two intruders, but to destroy evidence. I would be surprised if either of the knives were proved to be murder weapons but then who leaves a camera full of evidence in a washing machine?
This case baffles me.
@jden
some of the photos date from after they broke up technically.
There was still socialising. if you look at the HP timeline story they were doing stuff together and travelling in march-may of 08
Why are all the stab wounds in the same area on his back? Why wouldn’t travis try to turn around and face Jodi and defend himself?
Ding!
B: Off topic, but have you followed the Danielle Jelinek case in Minnesota at all?
o/t: Yes, unfortunately they have their suspect in custody on an unrelated charge, they need to track his pings and activity closely. The police needs to release the confirmed whereabouts and timeline to the public and ask for leads and they will find Danielle.
B
Could Travis have also been tasered and because of decomp it not known/seen?
Doubtful, if he was tasered when wet I think we would see signs of electrical burns.
B
This case still baffles me. Basically she said she did it, even if self defense, she changed her story three times, it should be a slam dunk. It was brutal, hate filled. And why did she leave the camera?? And why didn’t the state call the roommate? I hope the jury will be able to process the evidence and justice will be served but I have negative feeling.
I hesitate to call the prosecution incompetent. But, I believe that strategic errors were made. It appears that the prosecutor wanted to present a KISS case (keep it simple stupid) in order to involve the type of information overload that can confuse juries. Unfortunately, the case was oversimplified. I suspect his strtegy was to put forth a bare bones case initially and fill in the gaps during rebuttal. Unfortunately if the defense limits its witnesses, much of the prosecution’s evidence will never be allowed into evidence.
I can see why the prosecutor never called the room-mate as his story really stirs the water. TA had some type of spiritual warning and he stayed up for protection, was surprised when JA arrived, but then hopped into bed with her. He also states that he was “having a hard time picturing her do this without help”. What is a jury to make of that?
Interestingly,the 9mm and knives fit in with the two intruder story: “I watched my friend brutally killed, so I bought these for protection.” That isn’t really the case, since most young women would not buy knives for that purpose, a 9mm would be more than adequate. I wonder if she was putting together a “murder kit” for another victim?
One of the great weaknesses of the Anglo-American adversarial legal system is that it is more about one side winning than revealing the truth. All legal systems have their weaknesses.
Survivor says:
January 23, 2013 at 12:02 am:
Survivor: I BELIEVE,lol, this is a second rental car. The first she brought back-we saw the receipt in court etc, this one with the weapons etc, was picked up July 14 2008 per the In Session clip. The receipt for the purchase of the weapon was in her grandparents home and the gun was later said to be found hidden in the car. All this is well after poor Travis.
@ Eloise
THANK YOU for making that make sense! Maybe I was just sleep-deprived. So she was re-loaded with knives and a gun – and I guess more ammo this time. Was there another target…
Mom3.0
Your statement above that this murder is a part of GOD’s plan for Travis and Jody is not my understanding of how he works. We have free will choices to make. It is our choosing that makes events happen.
I this case Jodi was not satisfied with the relationships between herself and Travis. She imo is a sociopath and would not accept the fact that Travis would not put her first in his life. He was trying to move on and have relationships with others.
I think she planned to make this one last effort to convince him that she deserved to be first in his life and when he rejected that effort it was more than she could take. She had a backup plan and that was to remove him from life if she failed to convince him. This is the reason for so many who take the life of others. If you and I cannot be together, I will fix it so you cannot be with them.
Sociopaths are all about control. If something or someone gets in they way, then their anger comes out and it can be a very ugly confrontation. All the other activities that came before were warnings that I’ll make misery for you if you don’t do as I want.
About to listen to the podcast now, so apologies if this is discussed on the podcast.
Blink you wrote in place of a post by Ragdoll on January 22, 2013 at 11:44 am:
“Ragdoll, I am featuring that info in my update, as I made contact with that individual, would you mind terribly if I held that comment until I finish the update please?”
Are you able to directly state at this point, which individual it was with which you made contact? And does making contact mean that you spoke with them about the situation? Surely Lisa (or possibly Steve Bell) could shed some light on who might have slashed the tires and/or came to the door that night. So why aren’t we privy to this information?
I’m growing more and more concerned that the prosecution has botched this. They should have been painting a picture of JA as an increasingly aggressive stalker– using hard evidence and witnesses. They needed to make the jury see that Travis’s murder was– it’s terrible to say– a long time coming given JA’s previous behavior. Establishing her abusive, mentally unstable behavior prior to the crime makes it more clear that this was not a case of self-defense. Using the interrogation tapes selectively could have revealed to the jury that JA is a pathological liar. Then presenting the evidence that places her at the scene that day, while blood was literally being spilled, would have brought it home. The prosecution didn’t need to explain the sequence of events– which may actually be detrimental to their case later on in the trial– because the sequence of the attack doesn’t really matter; the end is the end. Travis is dead. Jodi was there. And Jodi had been moving in that direction for months.
Eloise and Survivor-
Taking a guess here, but maybe the car Jodi was in the process of buying from Travis at the time of his murder was seized by LE as part of the investigation or because it was technically still part of his estate at the time of his death, resulting in JA needing to rent a car.
Related to Survivor’s post…
I also think JA drove into the desert to burn evidence. The kerosene she bought, the heavy smell of smoke in the returned rental car, the missing car floor mats, and other missing evidence.
I assume she went far, far away from civilization to destroy evidence, however given that it was Arizona and was summer time, wouldn’t the fire risk be high? How did she keep the fire contained and under control? Were any brush fires or “lightening strike” fires reported in the hours/days after Travis was murdered? Can this be looked into?
A question for people with legal experience:
If Jodi’s defense is that she killed Travis in self-defense, can’t she be charged with obstruction of justice for destroying or tampering with evidence– namely the weapons used to kill him, cleaning up the scene, or anything else she took or destroyed?
Almost every– if not every– digital camera has a zoom feature on it. While this wouldn’t be useful if you’re trying to photograph birds from a distance, it should have sufficed as a zoom in a room the size of a bathroom. Jodi likely did not need a separate and distinct zoom lens to sneak the photos she did of Travis in the shower. JMO.
She admitted to killing Travis in self defense in pretrial discovery motions
1. Other suspects become irrelevant, don’t they?
2. Wouldn’t she have to answer and give an explanation in discovery of where or what happened to the gun?
blink, nice Monkeys session.
I agree with your take on a lot of this. One thing I haven’t seen and I think is important is the issue about others being involved and why the jury is going there. They are going there because, Flores gave that to them! Right out of the gate! On the tapes Martinez selected to play right off the bat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdiZADvLaEY
Trial Day 2 FLores call to Jodi
31:45
jodi: ‘unless there was two people…’
Flores – he’s a pretty good sized guy … it would take two people, maybe more to over power him
Then he repeats it AGAIN! 45:25
‘he’s a big guy and it would take, like I mentioned to you before, it would take more than one person to do this to him’
Yes. Unfortunately, yes.
B
Listened to your interview, very good.
I’m not sure why you are so down on the prosecution. He kept it short and sweet, and can still enter evidence in rebuttal. He has her witness list. Her current defense is her 3rd swing at this, and I can’t believe she saved the best for last. Weakest by far. If the defense starts co-mingling all these other theories from her previous lies,it weakens her defense even more.
Robert, thank you.
I am “down” on the prosecution because I am gravely concerned that they have not met their burden.
I am not the only one- the defense has managed to get a hearing on prosecutorial misconduct.
It was unnecessary and we need to hold our representatives of the state accountable.
B
I agree with you Blackpearl that she had no physical hold on Travis’s car on June 4, short of stealing it. In regard to the kerosene, one has to wonder what her intent may have been when she bought it at the beginning of the trip? The crime hadn’t happened yet. What disgusting scenarios were going thru her mind that entailed kerosene? Did contemplate having him leave the house? Or burning the house? But having been seen by the roommate, she had to ex-nay that plan? Thats a horrible thought. She is a horrible person.
Are we sure that Travis was consensual in the events that occurred that day? He purportedly had a spiritual premonition… maybe he used the duct tape as per what we’ve read… he was surprised when she showed up… she realized it was over as soon as she arrived… although IIRC JA stated that he was excited she was coming, we know she is a liar.
Is it possible that the whole day, or at least the last half, was a hostage situation whereby JA held Travis at gunpoint and forced him to behave as she wanted, to be all hers and pose for pictures including the nude bed shots? The shower pictures look forced, posed. Until the last one which eerily emotes a constitution of emotions. Cover each of his eyes separately and you will see fear in eye on left, anger in the eye on right as well as an overall “is this really happening”? which could have been the culmination of hours of abuse. She could have forced a sedative which would have slowed him down for the eventual attack.
Did she rinse him in the shower and lock his bedroom door to slow the rate of finding him thereby complicating the medical examination?
@ Robert
(snark alert directed at system)
Unfortunately, that’s a big NO to question number 2. Prior to CA’s trial, I would have thought the same. But what we learned from that trial is that the state has to KNOW what happened to the gun. Where it is, why it’s there, who put it there, etc. AND prove it! All the defense has to do is sit back and “buzz”(picture Sissy Spacek in Four Christmases with the buzzer from the board game Taboo) every theory put forth by the prosecution. Even if they were to guess right, this has turned in to what I like to call the “Were you there? Did you SEE her kill him?” defense. Most famously implemented by the OJ defense team.
OT-Not sure if anyone else chose to piss away another 60 minutes of their lives watching Aphrodite Jone’s take on the CA case the other night. But I am still in awe of JB’s ability to claim to “believe” CA. To steal yet another line from Four Christmases, “He is a 1st class ass sniffer…”
LOL, I so used to like her- and then..
B
Examples of taser burns on skin:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2008/12/01/rcmp-taser.html
(Note that the electroshock Taser–or any other brand–is on the prohibited list for some Canadian law enforcement, but not all; there is great controversy over its use in that country.)
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Medical-student-sues-S-F-officers-in-stun-gun-2543695.php
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/09/jpso_report_claims_brothers_pr.html
(Scroll down for taser burn photo.)
All of the above Taser burns occurred on dry skin, through clothing. An electroshock on bare skin could be excruciating–and can cause cardiac arrest. More than 150 people in the past 10 years have died from tasering.
I want to get the tire slashing straight. Travis’s tires were slashed on two occasions, right? Both times he was out on a date with Lisa, who has the troubled ex-boyfriend, right? And Lisa’s own tires were slashed as well? But Travis’s tires were never slashed when he was out on a date with Marie Hall? And yet she testified to his tires being slashed as though she had first-hand knowledge of it?
Regarding the car that Jodi was purchasing from Travis, I believe she told Det. Flores (during one of the early phone interviews) a story about this car, a BMW, that occurred when she was moving back to CA. She told him about hooking it up to moving van of some sort, but that she unwittingly left the car in gear which caused its engine to be destroyed, or something to that effect. She also told Det. Flores something about the car still being in a shop (in AZ), and that Travis hasn’t yet decided what to do with it, dealing with insurance or something like that. I remember thinking that it was strange she was still paying Travis for this essentially totaled car that was also basically still in Travis’ possession.
I believe the subject (and story) came up when Det. Flores was inquiring about the check she wrote to Travis being found in his office. There may or may not have been more to it, but I just thought there was some sort of deception on her part regarding the matter-it seemed weird to me that she would continue to make payments on a car she did not have and that Travis was likely going to get insurance money for. She was not in possession of the BMW, however, and I presume that was why she needed to rent a car, although I don’t know what vehicle she owned prior or in addition to the one being purchased from Travis.
Does anyone else recall hearing this?
Thanks,
Alisa
Thanks, B, for commenting on the Jelinek case….yes, it’s too bad they don’t let him out and just track him. They found bloody paper towels and blood in his car. It was sent for testing weeks ago. Have you heard the results of that?
Yes, it is hers. I dont think there is a chance he would return to wherever she is, I think they missed that opportunity in thinking clues were in the storage rented to Mom. My prayers are with her family.
B
@BlackPearl January 23, 2013 at 1:47 pm
I’m almost buying the zoom but just barely. Some of those photos really make me question why he did not notice her there (assuming the theory he didn’t know). Even with a zoom, the angle of some of those shots with his head in the water with eyes closed seems pretty close under him. The one I cannot get past is the one square with his back. Unless the lighting is a coincidence, it appears that flash was used in that shot and it is not a large shower.
Okay, what I’m i missing.By her own admission they have relieved the state of proving who did it.”Prima Facie” evidence. The state presented facts to where self defense is just a much a fantasy as her first 2 stories. When the defense starts next Tuesday,what possible evidence,and testimony can they submit that the state will not be able to shred to bits. what expert can they possibly get up there to explain that carnage as “self defense”.
And what kind of system let’s the jury ask questions, but not the judge! you think it might help the defense, but from a judges perspective ,Mistrials are a thing of the past
To Snowroller: by admitting to the crime, that evidence is no longer argumentative. It doesn’t have to be proven. it’s a record of fact. Now she may not have to direct them to the weapons, but she will have to state in discovery she doesn’t know where they are at. you know,self incrimination, lie again. but that can be submitted as testimony.
Robert- she is admitting she killed him self defense or justifiable homicide- the opposite of admitting guilt to the crimes she is charged with in this trial. I know it sounds like I am nit-picking but I promise I am not- this is important to the defense burden and the jury considerations.
She is not obligated to testify, so technically she never had to say what she did with the weapons- or she can say they were from the house, I left them there, I have no idea what happened to them. Having seen pics of the inside of the home and how many things were missed , she would get at least one juror to buy that, imo.
B
Blink I think you are very right when you said that there are more photos that we have not seen- has the jury seen them all? IDK
Speaking of the shower and the pictures and the angles and Jodis lie of kneeling down by the bathtub to review the pics…and that darn robe—
Well I found another pic of the shower- once Travis had been removed-
I do not know where the original was found but this is compliments of WS post #970
warning blood shown-
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8689716#post8689716
look how tiny that shower is
then look at 100 of 149 on HP
After seeing #970 the ceiling pic makes more sense that is the wall with the open shower door’s top frame 117 of 149 same as testimony given at trial.
But I cant say that it makes sense that this photo tends to show that the camera was in midair or was dropped…
IIRC it was the testimony that this pic showed the camera to be 3 feet from the floor?
why say it was dropped at all- many photos taken by Jodi would seem to have her lower to the ground…
the Jodi “foot” pic and the hallway “mass” pic
Anyway- the new pic #970 shows that the robe is hanging on a wall which protrudes-
so exactly how did Travis lunge out of the shower to get Jodi- running into the wall?
if from the opposite angle then Jodi couldnt have been kneeling at the bathtub could she? and that darn robe would have been right there…
Just sharing some thoughts and another pic….
which brings me back to the robe/laundry…
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