Jodi Arias Trial: New Witnesses May Reveal Defense Strategy- Prosecution Omissions
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Phoenix, AZ- In a terse exchange prior to the hiatus in the Arias trial, the defense repeated their contention that they want The Honorable Sherry Stephens to order a directed verdict or a mistrial in the State’s case against Jodi Arias.
As reported exclusively by BOC it does seem the prosecution missed quite a bit of potential evidence including a possible motive- the duct tape around Travis’s right arm. Was it the final straw that made Jodi Arias snap as she was allegedly taking photos of Travis in the shower without his knowledge?
There was also an exparte hearing held in Judge Stephen’s chambers, however, the contents of those minutes have not yet been filed- although the docket suggests they have. The defense is now testing Jodi Arias’s canon camera for some undisclosed reason.
With the defense preparing to start its case next week in spite of the outstanding motions before the court- have the prosecution’s actions harmed their case?
The issue at the forefront seems to hinge on something that the prosecution never introduced- On Purpose, says Prosecutor Juan Martinez.
The prosecution’s very first witness, Maria Hall, who was the female friend attending the Cancun trip with Alexander on June 10th, told the court that Travis told her he had been stalked while on a date with another girl and had his tires slashed. The intimation before the court was clear regardless of the defense attempts to point out that Travis never said it was Jodi who was responsible.
Nancy Grace and Jane Velez Mitchell lit up their HLN evening roster discussing Arias’s stalker behavior with several associates of Alexander. Dr. Karl Hiatt said one Sunday he was told that he had his tires slashed and that it was possible that something might escalate and he may not show up for dinner as a result.
Outside the presence of the jury Juan Martinez argued that they did not call the witness who Travis was on that particular date with because he did not want to create “an inflammatory” situation for the jury causing an appellate issue.
However, Martinez also lets it slip that Lisa Andrews Daidone does not want to testify and the defense tells the judge the prosecution has withheld her contact information from them and THEY intend to call her. Daidone recently deleted her FB profile and other social media sites in her name.
Does it make any sense to anyone why a prosecutor would not call a witness who could place a dangerous weapon in the hands of a person committing a destructive and openly violent act who they allege is guilty of doing exactly that for exactly the same reasons in the instant case?
From Daidone’s bog entry in 2008:
”…So because Heavenly Father allowed this to happen, I have grown in such a way that I couldn’t have otherwise, or at least not as quickly. While if you asked me a few months from now if I could go back would I change it, I would say “Absolutely,” I’m not sure how much I would actually change about it. Of course I wouldn’t want Travis to be taken. I might even opt for Jodi to be popped instead. But who am I to decide the fate of the hundreds of people that have been effected by this? It’s hard
to say which way is better. Travis always talked about Opportunity Cost. He spoke of how his time could be used best, to benefit the maximum amount of people. I’m sure he wishes he could have done more while he was here, but I don’t think he regrets leaving. He is doing something amazing up in the Spirit World. I know it. I can feel it. He is continuing to learn and progress. He’s helping others to do the same. He is the same wonderful, creative, spontaneous, caring, gentle, driven, foe- paint-loving, show-tune-singing man that I fell in love with…”
Is it because in the 48 Hours Mystery program so frequently noted by the defense Detective Flores openly states there was no evidence whatsoever that Jodi was involved in that incident after he repeats his theory that Travis was shot first? Both these statements made by the lead detective in the case on national television directly conflict with the prosecution’s case as testified by Esteban Flores.
NO.
Is it because they already know who was responsible for the multiple tire slashing incidents and presenting that information might corroborate a story told to them by Arias in the past?
In her own words, Lisa Andrews Daidone began dating Travis Alexander in July 2007. According to the minutes filed from trial January 16th, the tire slashing incident was in December 2007, both Alexander and Andrew’s tires were slashed and the individual came to the front door . Martinez states Andrews will testify to these facts. Prior to dating Alexander, Daidone was dating a common friend and member of their Mormon ward- Steve Bell. Arias claims she and Travis began dating February 2, 2007.
Daidone will not go into how she and Travis began dating, or why, but there is a Steve Bell connected to this group that has had some serious troubles with the law immediately preceding the break up, and many following.
Could the mystery stalker have been on her end and NOT Arias? If so, you can bet the defense will be bringing that issue into court next week and providing the jury with this eye opening gem- expected to cause further problems with the State’s theory.
That’s not all, unfortunately.
Thomas Brown, a former roommate of Travis Alexander in the home of his murder, was interviewed up to three times by Detective Flores whereby he told them that Jodi had open access to the home when he was around and the Arias he knew was completely shy and somewhat awkwardly withdrawn. He was having a hard time picturing her do this without help and he told cops that.
He also told them something about Travis being shocked to get the call that Jodi Arias was standing outside the home the early morning hours of June 4, 2008 and that he had been up all night performing some sort of protection rite. Brown’s information was not included in any information given to the defense and he was not even aware his name came up in the investigation by Jodi Arias herself. I would expect that issue to surface promptly as well.
Gus Searcy, $100K ring earner for Prepaid Legal Services and now Legal Shield was noticed to be available this week for interview. Travis was scheduled to be on the conference call with Searcy at 6:45PM the evening of his murder.
Artful Dodging
While the trial is in hiatus, one are of Jodi Arias’s life is quite active and well, pecuniary.
Arias, through her family, has taken to EBay to sell her personally rendered offerings the macabre set is snatching up for a few hundred clams a piece during the trial.
It is believed to be managed by Arias’s mother Sandy, who uploaded images to Arias’s MySpace after her incarceration to include one of Gary Alexander- Travis’s older brother.
The defense portion of the Jodi Arias trial for the murder of Travis Alexander led by Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott will begin its case January 29th.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates.
Jacqueline Beaufort, contributing editor
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I looked up and the younger sister stormed out of the courtroom, the older sister was doubled over sobbing, Jodi was sobbing and several others in the room were wiping tears. I have NO idea what set everyone off. Martinez was questioning Lisa Andrews and I didn’t hear anything that upsetting. Am I dense or did something happen when I looked away?
It appears my comment didn’t pass moderation.
Did I cross a line on the glasses and gas cans? I seem to be pushing buttons I’m clearly not aware of. It’s not intentional.
#puzzled
xo
It’s up sily, with my response.
B
Mom3.0′s source of information being “Sex in the City” has me laughing. Good post!
The razor appeared to perhaps be a Mach 3 B., but it was too fuzzy to really determine. Gillett has several versions on the market currently.
This guy Searcy is a piece of work. He is into one scheme after another. It crossed my mind today during the testimony that this guy is into human trafficing. The motor home is the perfect way to get around and leave very little footprint in a particular area. I think he needs to be investigated very thoroughly.
How was Jodi paying for all the things he did for her? Could this be a motive that she hoped to get money from Travis to pay this guy back or else he would put her to work with one of his sex connections? I have no proof, but just a gut feeling. There are more plastic surgery implants on Jodi than just breast implants. She also has some areas around the lower lip that seem to be enhanced.
I agree about the gas cans when traveling this area of the country. Unless you have a lot of experience with the particular vehicle and are very familiar with the roads or traveling long distances, it is best to have extra gas available. I remember getting caught in Nevada near area 51 where I miscalculated the amount of gas I would need and having to pay nearly twice the going rate just to be safe. I don’t let the sun go down without getting a full tank when traveling.
The advertised milage for autos and trucks found on the sticker is usually one or two miles per gallon better than a good driver can get. This is because they use 89 octane fuel for the tests. Octane ratings in the South and Southwest are usually 87 and are mostly 86 in the Western states.
The former girl friend of Travis that was on the stand today indicated that Travis was also a control freak. This girl was pushed around verbally and physcally by Travis. It goes back to my original concepts of him having multiple girl friends at the same time.
Twitch says:
January 29, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Does Estrella have a retail optical office…I mean how many pairs of glasses does a prisoner need? We are on #3 I believe? WTH is that about anyway? More chameleon acts on her part?
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Twitch,
LOL…agreed!!!! Oh, and what is up with the matching color-schemed outfits?!?! Today both JA and her female defense attorney are both in “virgin” white!!!
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Marie says:
January 29, 2013 at 8:58 pm
I can’t wait to see what else Juan has in his bag of tricks for us.
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Marie,
Neither can I! I truly believe that he has built/presented a solid foundation for this trial, prior to handing the defense some rope, and is simply waiting to see how much of it they will use.
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(from Blink, in response to Twitch)
I see how it lends itself to premeditation- however, as a person with petral OCD ( my tank is never less than 1/2 full)
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Blink,
oh my gosh….I thought I was the only one who considers a half full gas tank to be at the “empty” mark!!!
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The pic Martinez used to bully a perfectly good witness today was
!!!WARNING GRAPHIC!!!
http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s621/wasthinking/lisatestimony_zps15c7456b.png
The gas cans COULD be innocent, if we didn’t have a slaughtered man, no receipts for Arizona, stolen gun, a pathological pyscho killer etc. But wrap them up in the package and they are a fuel (pun intended) for the hangman imo.
Kudos to Martinez for mostly keeping himself in check today!
Interesting to me that one of the juror questions today was about JA being a “stalker”……but I thought the replies to the juror questions were a win for the prosecution.
Amen to a Gus free day today!!
I find the Freeman siblings creepy…
PS.
@B lmao on that hair…utterly horrific!!!
Twitch- were we watching the same trial? Did you see Martinez not once but TWICE show a pic to a defense witness where the decedants sister ran from the courtroom?
Outside of that in contrast to yesterday Martinez was in check.
B
@ Elizabeth
January 30th, 2013 at 4:30pm
(re: sister storming out of court today)
Attorney Martinez during cross exam of Travis ex-girlfiend (Lisa Andrews) … Holds up gruesome autopsy photo that depicts deceased Travis with his gaping neck & throat slashed ear to ear .
He had been asking her questions about her feelings about learning that TA was being unfaithful/sexual relationship with JA. Then he held up the autopsy photo and said something like: ‘Do you think it is (right or fair) to take a knife and slash somebody’s throat?’
Seemed like a complete surprise to Travis’s family that the photo was going to be shown at that moment … that is when one sister rushed out of the courtroom and other family members were doubled over and crying.
@B
I know, I know..
That’s what I said…..mostly. I don’t agree with the theatrics he pulled today…but he was a unit more subdued than with Gus.
Sammy says:
January 31, 2013 at 12:03 am
@ Elizabeth
(re: sister storming out of court today)
Thanks Sammy! I eventually gathered that much but it sure was fast and slick!
Although I wish the family didn’t have to be exposed to such gruesome sights, I think it’s a good thing Martinez is hitting Jodi, her defense team, and the jury with a reality-check upside the head. Trials get buried in the minutiae of legal business at hand and the heart of the matter gets lost. The Poor Little Victim story Jodi’s attorneys are portraying should be placed in context and contrasted with the stark reality of Travis’ death. Even mental “battering” would not be justifiable incentive to butcher a man the way she butchered him.
I get the feeling Wilmott and Nurmi aren’t emotionally invested in this defense, it’s all they have to work with. Damage control of their client’s loose lips and sloppy murder plans. “If was ever going to kill someone, I would use gloves. I have PLENTY of them” (who would say that??), and shot him continuously until he died. Flores should get a promotion for his limitless patience in that interrogation.
The most astounding thing is that anyone could possibly do that extent of damage to someone in a matter of short minutes. She must have gone after him in a wild frenzy. I wish the prosecution would present the knives and gun found when they arrested Jodi. It gives pause for thought that she may have intended to use them on a second victim.
IMO
this prosecutor really upsets me. i’m sorry to be redundant, i know this is the third time i’ve complained about him on here but showing that picture to a perfectly innocent young lady and suprising travis’ family like that was disturbing and in my opinion completely over the top. travis deserves to have the best representation in that court room but i have to feel like there’s a better way than Martinez is presenting. okay i promise, this is my last post complaining about the prosecutor.
I respectfully disagree. Watching the trial last evening and hearing the witness testimony, I felt the dramatic photo was genious in timing and execution. The testimony for the defense was weak yesterday. Most every relationship has times of disagreements, someone raises their voice, innuendos are made, people don’t speak for a time. I was at a point myself thinking if these types of occurrences are a pass key for murder, this jury will be setting an unfortunate precedence. I am sensitive to Travis’s family and how devastating these photos and this testimony must be for them . Lisa was obviously quite disturbed as well and at some point appeared to be praying… but I also feel that If people become ill and have to leave momentarily… and I’m sure in the end Travis’s family would agree, that is a small step for a conviction. The fact is, it WAS gruesome.
I also noticed that during and after the showing of that photo, Arias hid behind her hair and dabbed at her nose with a tissue, as she does. I never once saw a tear emanate from her eyes. When her attorney again began questioning Lisa, Arias came out from behind her hair facade with dry eyes. Lisa stated that she and Travis had contemplated marriage, that he wanted to marry her. From that point on and until Lisa was asked to step down, Arias looked at Lisa with total disdain. This look changed the moment the next witness was called, DF whom Arias looked at with poor little me.
It took a while for me, but I am finally actually seeing narcissism and.sociopathic behaviors. I am finally able to read her eyes.
If you can read that girl’s eyes than you are a better analyst than I.
Professionally, I am fascinated by Jodi as a subject for study, just like I am in other cases- it’s my job to hone my skills in that way. On a personal level I want to sock her in the face and watch her rot in a cell for the rest of her natural life.
The bigger picture for me here is criminal jurisprudence. The Anthony verdict changed me, as it did many others- there is no such thing as a slam dunk prosecution in my view-
I want to know what happened in those minutes that ended in this way and what associated triggers were involved so awareness can be imparted. This man may have had some issues in his treatment of women and his application of his commitment to religion, but whether or thought it ethical and appropriate or not, Martinez drove the point home he needed to.
Shady prosecutorial maneuvers in a criminal matter are extremely risky to a successful verdict and whether or not it ultimately rises to misconduct remains to be seen, but IF a verdict of guilt is reached in this case ( if she does not take the stand I say she is going to have a rough time getting out of a capital murder verdict) it is WROUGHT with appellate preservations, imo.
B
Just wanted to say after watching Lisa testify yesterday- I am more inclined to believe her 2008 blog post just read strangely. We all choose words poorly which can mask our true intent
I thought it went well for the prosecution yesterday-
But I dont want to pretend how it all went over for the jury.
I understood where Martinez was going with the pic-
This is an ugly gruesome end to a young man who clearly the defense is putting on trial-
There is a stark contrast between what Jodi is claiming happened and what did happen to Travis-
Why was Jodi crying she did that to him?
TGF glad you got my attempts at humor-
AJMo
It is interesting to see how the trial plays out in social media. I don’t have the time to actually watch the trial but try to get updates periodically from social media. It is almost as if there were several trials going on simultaneously.
It is sad that some people (I am not calling anybody out on this board, most of these offenders are on a message board system I read, but don’t post on) seem to be pulling for a team. I believe that the best thing that a victims advocate should seek is the truth, whatever that is.
I also wonder how this testimony is affecting the jurors. They don’t have the same background information and biases that many internet detectives have. For example, the gas cans. With the limited information about gas cans given the jury, how will they interpret this?
Even with information and ideas I have gleaned from Blink and others, I still don’t have a good understanding of why this happened. JA doesn’t have a long trail of sociopathic disasters. She was in a stable long-term relationship for 4 years where she even paid half the mortgage. She has friends who seem to genuinely like her. There also seems to be a ritualistic tone to the killing (blood atonement, human sacrifice?), an idea reinforced by the report that when arrested, she had a gun and two knives in her car.
I fear that the jury may go into deliberations with an incomplete story, and the incomplete story may falsely be interpreted as reasonable doubt.
This is my critical point. You CANNOT leave 12 people to fill in the gaps for themselves and expect to not have one that ultimately says “Look, if THEY don’t really know what happened- how are we to convict a person of these charges?” This is why I keep saying this was a forensics case- and that picture is sorely lacking.
B
Does anyone else think that JA may have contemplated setting the house on fire with fuel in gas cans to coverup the crime and was interrupted or changed her mind?
Or, was it for discreet travel only?
I live in Ohio and I am not a young one, but I’ve never heard of anyone carrying gas in their car for trips except for those who have had a broken gas gauge and that is rare.
No, I think she legit realized that a travel plan through the desert would require it, and iirc gas was like $4.20 a gallon – I don’t know if the states she was traveling in lended itself to be an issue in that regard. She also bought kerosene which has not been mentioned to my bewilderment.
I do believe she DID burn clothing items or anything incriminating in the desert.
B
is the defense going to be able to get in the fact that there is no proof jodi slashed the tires? will the computer forensics person on the defenses list be able to testify that the emails weren’t from jodi (if in fact they weren’t)? I’m just wondering if enough of a foundation has been laid yet for all of that to come in, I was suprised when it wasn’t brought up more yesterday with Lisa Andrews about her ex boyfriend who could have done that
I have a feeling that the defense was given very specific instructions on that issue or they are holding it for rebuttle. If they cant prove it- maybe even closing argument?
B
Blink says:
January 31, 2013@ 11:22am
“I do believe she DID burn clothing items or anything else incriminating in the desert.”. B.
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I agree. Perhaps the gasoline was mainly intended to avoid gas station stops with camera’s recording her travels to/from Travis’ home.
The kerosene? … Likely used in the desert to burn bloody clothing and other evidence. Definitely shows premeditation.
Praying that the jury is able to pull all this info/strange travel plans together and bring in a premeditated murder verdict.
Why wouldn’t she just go buy a gas can – why was she so persistent in borrowing them?
Seems you would less likely have a trail if you went somewhere and paid cash rather than pester a friend for theirs?
I agree with those who have mentioned that Martinez holding up that gruesome photo of Travis’ slashed & gaping neck wound was the right thing to do – at the right time during the trial.
At that point of the trial – the defense was in the middle of their ‘poor little victim Jodi’ spiel … and holding up that photo at that moment – brought the conversation & train of thought back to who the true victim was –>> TRAVIS.
The calculation, the planning, and the complete over-kill used by JA were brought back front & center to the jury with that picture being displayed at that time.
My only wish … Is that Martinez would have warned the family of Travis of what was going to happen beforehand. They were caught off guard along with everyone else. If Martinez had told them (only Travis’ family) beforehand, they would have been able to remain outside the courtroom for a few brief moments.
Gas receipts within minutes so that not one receipt would have all of the gas on it -alibi.
Extra gas so that she wouldn’t have to stop in AZ coming or going.
Kerosene to burn key evidence in the desert.
The statement about using gloves (she has plenty of them) was self-chastise for palm print on wall.
As for the gun, it most probably jammed, he was not dead and fighting… and she lost her mind with anger.
Yes, B, I can see things in her eyes today for the first time. the first time I watched her at length.
Arias is calculating and beyond all else manipulative… and mindful of everything she does. Those with the most issues are the best actors.
It is practical for us all all to hone our intuition, a gift of protection and power… and sometimes preserver of life.
@Sammy
(snipped) “My only wish … Is that Martinez would have warned the family of Travis of what was going to happen beforehand. They were caught off guard along with everyone else. If Martinez had told them (only Travis’ family) beforehand, they would have been able to remain outside the courtroom for a few brief moments.”
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We viewers have certainly been warned in advance of the graphic pics. Martinez is a bit too strident for me. I hope the jury isn’t turned off by him. I feel the prosecution has excellent evidence but get antsy watching Martinez in action.
Who are the two people in the photo in this article?
The Daidone’s.
B
This is my critical point. You CANNOT leave 12 people to fill in the gaps for themselves and expect to not have one that ultimately says “Look, if THEY don’t really know what happened- how are we to convict a person of these charges?”This is why I keep saying this was a forensics case- and that picture is sorely lacking.
B
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Blink I agree with this- but I think it works both ways-
The jury asked questions of the exs both Jodis and Travis along with friends about alleged abuse
It seems the jury is trying to find the abuse (may not be good for the prosecution)
But the defense must supply some evidence of this abuse or the jury is going to have a very hard time buying self defense.
This is a forensic case but honestly we know what happened-
Jodi admitted to killing Travis He was shot, stabbed repeatedly and had defensive wounds, in addition to having his throat slashed.
So even though some forensics are missing the result is the same-
Jodi finally admitted to killing him- but now she claims self defense
The only questions really are was she abused and if she brutally killed him
with premeditation or in self defense
Right now it seems that the State got closer to proving premeditation then the defense has in proving self defense/abuse
Will the jury see it this way I dont know and ofcourse the defense is not through presenting its case.
Question was the damaged hard drive the same harddrive from Travis/laptop? this was unclear to me-
- What the heck happened all afternoon?-
all this for penis pics?
I dont buy it there must be more- what else was found on the computer?
I get the defense is saying Travis hid certain aspects of his life and they seem to want the jury to make the jump that he also hid his abusive nature towards jodi
IMO that is a stretch-
but the jury may chose to lean that way…
the same way the jury wanted to eliminate others helping they now seem to be wanting to eliminate self defense…
That could be good for the prosecution
it all depends on what the jurors interpretations are-
This case is certainly not a slam dunk
AJMO
Peace
i think
Jden says:
January 31, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Gas receipts within minutes so that not one receipt would have all of the gas on it -alibi.
Extra gas so that she wouldn’t have to stop in AZ coming or going.
Kerosene to burn key evidence in the desert.
The statement about using gloves (she has plenty of them) was self-chastise for palm print on wall.
As for the gun, it most probably jammed, he was not dead and fighting… and she lost her mind with anger.
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I agree with you on this.
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So, who thinks Jodi played on the computer btwn loads of laundry?
Eloise says:
January 31, 2013 at 7:21
So, who thinks Jodi played on the computer btwn loads of laundry?
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I think she was playing on that computer sometime after Travis first thought she left either before or after she took his life away.
Travis may have been a sexual deviant, and lies to women. But there wasnt any evidence that he was threatening to any of them. If he was, then why did Jodi drive all the way across the desert to see him? I would steer clear of anyone who hurt me. The prosecutor was smart to throw up that picture with his neck slashed and say what he said. She may have been angry, or hurt, but cold blooded murder is not an acceptable solution. She was away from him and should have stayed away.
I am biased because I grew up in a very violent home and as soon as I was able I left there and NEVER went back (for any reason). That is what a same person does. She sat in the interrogation room saying she would never kill him, she loved him. She wouldnt have any reason to hurt him…bla bla boa. Then out of the woodwork now she was a victim and Im not buying it. I hope and pray the jury isnt buying it. I would sentence her to death or, if I couldnt get the other 11 jurors to buy death, then convict her for life without parole.
Travis wasnt fighting for his life that day…he couldnt. He had been shot and no doubt was unable to truly react to defend. I recently cut my finger deep enough to require two stitches and as soon as it happened I reacted by grabbing the wound. I cant imagine being cut all over my body and how that felt. He raised his hands and arms in reaction to the mutiple stab wounds and cuts he was receiving until she slit his throat and that was the end. That’s how it plays out in my mind. Nobody else was there except her and Travis.
The Kerosene she bought was to burn up the evidence (as Blink pointed out). I can understand if you had killed someone that you might run at first out of fear, but you would NOT act normal (as if nothing happened) and you would not be able or want to sit and make out with another guy. That scene was gruesome…even if it had been in self defense it would have rocked my world for a long time. NO doubt bad dreams and me having panic attacks probably would have taken place. I think the normal person would have wanted to be alone to cry and get a grip. Or run to a safe person to say “what do I do now?”
I am a strong person but to do that to another person would be upsetting for anyone. That’s how i know she isnt normal!
Yes Ode, either way- she did the pic loading imo. She left plenty of verbal cues- mentioning the sex in that room, the youtube video and the tape that he got mad at and threw etc. All to draw attention to the area- I had been thinking it was to cover for her finger prints in that room as maybe she had forgotten to wipe down in there, but oh yes, this is glove lady. Instead it was ” look at me computer”.
I am watching the earlier testimony, and I cant help but feel they are watching a divorce case, it’s so odd, discussing whether he or she knows who’s going out with who- all irrelevant to me- unless they have her tied up and being beaten on video, I do not see what they are going to put forth to prove for abuse. jmo.
Has anyone else noticed that outside of the 4 year boyfriend….she had NO friends or acquaintances that were not tied to Travis in some way? No friends or girlfriends that she hung out with outside of that circle?
Even the friend she tried to meet up with on her trip that didn’t end up working out was the sister of the 4 yr boyfriend.
Seems to me that she completely immersed herself into the life of whomever she was dating at that moment. It’s clear she did not like to be alone at all so she moved from one directly to the next with no adjustment period in between…actually she would start a new relationship prior to the current one ending.
For example she starts her foundation with Travis before it’s completely over with 4 yr guy, she is still seeing Travis albeit sex only, when she begins the foundation with Ryan (or was Abe in between?), anyway you get the point…she always has her next victim in her sights before she ends things with the current.
My husband and I have been together for 24 years, married for 16 of them…we each have our own friends outside of our mutual friends and we each have a life outside of each other, he has his golfing buddies, I have my travel/shopping girlfriends and then we have a circle of friends we hang out with as a couple. I would say this is the norm for most people…there is nothing that indicates that she had a life outside of the current man in her life….that is just super odd to me.
It is interesting that here is a supposedly abused woman who has zero friends of her own that are not also connected to Travis or PPL that can support that claim….
Creepy Freeman sibling #2 didn’t do a whole lot for the defenses IMO.
Ok, the recorded phone call that caused everything to go bat sh*t…. How can that be admitted without the succubus taking the stand? How can it be admissible as we don’t know if the other party was aware the call was being recorded? Did she issue a disclaimer about recording for quality assurance at the beginning? Seriously tho I look to you peeps cause idk how that works, but always thought recordings were inadmissible usually….
On the damaged external hard drive (not to be confused with the external hard peen LOL) did they ever confirm that it belonged to Travis before recess…stupid work got in the way and I missed that part
Until Monday kids…have a good weekend
Anyone know what this means?
1/31/2013 COA Court of Appeals Order -party (001)
Note: declining jurisdiction of special action petition/stay
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021
Thanks!!
I do. Interlocutory appeal to reduce aggravators. In short, the defense repeated the request to remove the aggravator based on Flores testimony. It was a sound motion by the defense to preserve the issue.
B
IIRC someone interviewed the guy Jodi lived with for four years and he stated that she did not hold up her part of the finances and that is the thing that caused the breakup.
When Jodi got interested in the prepaid legal company or pyramid scheme,is when she found Travis and Searcy. These guys were working to take advantage of any person man or woman who would buy into their program.
The cost of gas cans is no longer cheap. The EPA and other regulatory bodies have added expensive pour and vent systems to even the plastic cans. The more the cost of crude, the more the cost of plastics to make the cans. Most plastics have doubled in price since 2007. There are metal safety cans that meet safety standards. These are between thirty-five and fifty dollars or more depending on capacity. Check the Tractor Supply web site to verify prices.
Jodi had IMO the routine to live off of others down to a fine method. She had no money and probably borrowed the cans for that reason. I believe that the extra gas purchases so close together in time were to obtain cash.
I did get to watch a little of the trial today. I don’t think the defense made much progress.
I did get a real good look at Travis in several photos. I had earlier stated he sould have weighed about 165 lbs.. However, this guy was well on his way to becoming a fat man. In two of the pictures he was at least 35 to 40 lbs overweight. There is something in the carriage of his body that makes me think he is less than truthful. Now having said that about truthfulness, there is no reason for anyone to go after another and perform the acts that killed this man. Jodi could have walked away and accepted the loses. A reasonable person would do so.
He was described as moderately overweight at autopsy- but he had recently lost weight. He was 5’9″ and 189 after blood loss, just fyi.
B
Hello Blink and blinksters. I was schocked to see JA smile when L.D had to admit AT was cheating on her with JA. JA had a little winner smile on her face. It is in fact interesting as to the state of mind of JA. It tells me so much about her. So much. Just a little smile at this exact moment. I found it gruesom but effektiv that the prosecutor showed the picture of AT at this time of the session. For me he did a good job this time. He has to present the facts keep on facts and at least this picture tells the Story the entire one. If JA never was phisically abused by AT, how could she thinks after droping the camera down that AT will kill her and that she had to fight for her life??? This is all ” bullshit” for me. Sorry for this word but she had the knife and the gun. AT didn’t have the knife or the gun under the shower. How could she then think she had to fight for her life even if he pushed her or knocked her down?( what never happened for me. Just one more lie )
Who is DeeAnna Reed? Or, is that a username of Arias? It seems that Arias may have sneaked into Travis’ house, didn’t she arrive at approximately 4:00am? and play on the computer while Travis was sleeping.
Arias is the sexual deviant. A lure, a trap. She spins her web and naive men are sucked in (pun).
Perusing the travel photos, the body languages are quite telling. Travis is almost always leaning away from Arias, not his normal stance… and Arias has a definite look of possessiveness.
I pray tha the phone sex tapes are not damaging to the prosecution. This all seems so very unfair that Travis is not able to defend himself.
Reed is an ex gf of Travis- I think the questioning on direct sounded misleading to some. He was on her youtube account, he or she was not logged in to her account “as her”. I also think it supports the defense assertion she was an invited guest and he was waiting up for her.
I think the audio is coming in, and I think it is going to be harmful to the prosecution’s case.
I think the bigger issue for me is the prosecution not admitting the laptop we now find out how a damaged hard drive and it was either caused by Mesa PD or they do not know how- and they tried to send the mirror drive extracted by a third party without alerting the expert.
Maybe Martinez whipped it into a desk in his office or something (could not resist).
Now we have recovered images from the hard drive (new meaning for me) that Mesa PD did not recover in unalocated clusters marked not recoverable from a hard drive they allegedly broke and had rebuilt.
We have Martinez being a schmuck in this expert’s testimony which not only does not endear him with the jury he is likely struggling to get through the background and “bits and Bytes” with the witness, but my translation of his behavior had I been a juror yesterday would have been that it is CLEAR Martinez is afraid of this evidence. He has shown that pattern 100%.
All this shell game had better create the nexus in specific imagery for this jury, however. The events leading up to and during the murder of Travis Alexander must show how this woman felt she had to kill or be killed because all the rest is really white noise thus far.
Sky Hughes must testify in person and apparently this is being arranged by the prosecutors office so this ought to be interesting, indeed.
I can tell you this much, if I were Sky Hughes, and I got dragged into this mess from the prosecutors office, involved my husband, and now I needed to be put on the stand in this sort of proceeding I would be livid.
B
I know that Sky Hughes is going to have to testify in the prosecutorial misconduct hearing, and I believe that isn’t until Feb. 13, but didn’t the Hughes (one or both of them) write an e-mail to Travis that he should let Jodi go on with her life, that he was being abusive to her, in their opinion? Will one or both Hughes testify in the trial about that e-mail, or is that e-mail just sensationalist news that isn’t true?
Dunno yet if it comes in at trial or not, but yes, and also Skye admitting that Travis had some sort of sexual issues.
B
Confused….I thought that a damaged hard drive was recovered from JA’s residence in Yreka? I had assumed that is the damaged hard drive that was being discussed during testimony after the discussion about TA’s laptop.
I agree that the date/time of the internet history in TA’s laptop helps support the succubus’ claim that TA was up waiting for her however; I PERSONALLY believe SHE was the one on the laptop at that time and that SHE is the one that intentionally went to Deanna’s YouTube account to further assist in her portrayal of TA as an unfaithful womanizer.
Nothing she does is by complete accident, everything serves a purpose, of course that purpose is ALWAYS to benefit her needy selfish narcissistic self.
Considering SHE recorded that phone call and kept it, and she plays along with TA’s fantasy discussion tells me 2 things:
1. She recorded and kept it so she could still hear his voice long after he was dead and continue to delude herself that he really wanted her
2. Potential evidence against him in the event she was caught and ended up in the boat she’s in now
I still have some small amount of faith in this jury…they are asking the questions of these witnesses (defenses witnesses at that) that illustrate that they the jury are STILL waiting for proof of abuse because apparently they have not seen or heard anything yet that solidifies that concept for them. That could always change at a moments notice depending on what happens next of course, but at the moment it seems to me that they aren’t buying the sorry sack of crap she’s trying to sell.
If the call makes it in, I hope the jury can entertain the idea that this is just another one of her sad attempts at deflecting her own issues on to TA.
If she walks away a free woman after all this is said and done (I will have lost all faith in humanity I swear)…im guessing the only dates she is gonna get will be with total creepers ..and you know that will be the first thing she would do…find and snare her next meal ticket/victim.
Unfortunately, all the pictures of vaginas and penises is turning this trial into a sideshow. The defenses expert admitted that he is not a penis identification expert (PIE) and doesn’t know whose penis is in the photo. On the other hand, the close-up of JA was never verified by a vagina indentification professional (VIP). These photos and antics do not enhance the jury’s knowledge of the facts. The prosecutors continuous habit of flashing autopsy photos to the jury at inappropriate times adds to the show. (Distracting jurors from testimony by flashing emotionally charged unrelated images can also lead to innocent people being convicted – not a problem in this case).
My take on the defenses strategy (it’s worth what you paid for it):
1) JA was stuck in a 4 year relationship with a man who wouldn’t marry her and she had to work 2 jobs to pay her half of the mortgage.
2) In her desperate situation she fell into the cult of PrePaid Legal.
3) PPL introduced her to the LDS church and TA
4) TA used her as a sex toy, but kept her as his “dirty little secret”. He flirted in front of her, and denied their relationship when around his friends.
5) On the fateful day, he saw something on the computer which enraged him and he VIOLENTLY destroyed the hard drive, only when JA provided sexual release did he calm down.
6) Later JA innocently took tasteful pictures of him in the shower, and after first looking despondent, suddenly became violent again and attacked JA, and she was forced to defend herself.
I believe that #1-4 and part of #5 might actually be true to some extent, but don’t buy into #6. People usually don’t carry guns and knives to a booty call.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/jodi-arias_n_1174274.html
Sky Hughes has gone on the record quite clearly. however, with prosecutorial statements of Arias and in defense of Travis.
“[Arias] was totally obsessed with him,” Hughes said. “She wouldn’t let him go. Whenever he would try to sever all ties, she would threaten to kill herself … He would tell her he didn’t want anything to do with her, and she would show up at his house. We knew it was her. We didn’t want it to be her, but [we] just knew it was.”
This article is interesting and puts into perspective sociopathic Arias’ demeanor, her affect and actions.
Rhetoric, opinions and personality bashing aside, Travis had defense wounds and Arias had none. No matter predisposition, tendencies or desires we are weighing the subject at hand… the murder.
How can Arias willingly drive across the desert, arrive in the middle of the night, lie in his bed naked, have sex with him, take photographs of him in the shower, murder him and then immediately head for another man’s warm body… in the meantime not crying help or calling anyone… and claim self-defense?
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, be not swayed. There was a horrific, gruesome murder and Travis is dead… the last photo of him alive hauntingly revealing a terrified young man, his body soon replete with stab wounds and slashes, gashes, defense cuts and a hole to his head.
Who’s smiling now? (JA mugshot)
@Georgia Dad
Why not bring in the hard drive as the prosecutor if Ta
Broke it?
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It’s up sily, with my response.
B
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Heh. Seems I can fit both feet in my mouth AND a keyboard. Please forgive me, again, Blink. Your patience is immeasurable, friendLY. xo xo xo
I don’t know if the actual contents of the hard drive are relevant. In the absence of usful data, the prosecution bringing in a broken hard drive adds nothing to the narrative and diverts attention from the case at hand.
I doubt there is any real useful information in the disk. If there was really embarrassing information about TA, the prosecuter probably would have made a deal. On the other hand, the prosecutor needs to come up with an explanation for the broken hard drive. If he leaves the story as “Somebody broke the hard drive for some reason”, that creates reasonable doubt.
@jden
The issue of sky has to do with the allegation of prosecutorial misconduct for now-
RE Twitch says:
February 1, 2013 at 12:14 pm
~snip ~I agree that the date/time of the internet history in TA’s laptop helps support the succubus’ claim that TA was up waiting for her however; I PERSONALLY believe SHE was the one on the laptop at that time and that SHE is the one that intentionally went to Deanna’s YouTube account to further assist in her portrayal of TA as an unfaithful womanizer.~
Hi Twitch,
Yes, I agree, we have to remember she droned on in the interview with Flores about arriving at TA’s home and him watching the goofy videos in the office ( again pointing to that room) at that hour and they then got so tired they went to bed till 1pm the next day. So the story goes. I am also interested in hearing more from Encase investigator Dworki or whatever on Monday, re laptop- there must be more than (PIE) lol in regard to the images hard drive etc. BTW- Good one Georgia Dad.
I will give JA credit- she could write a thriller- she leaves no areas out- sex, money, lies,adultery, religion, the arts, murder,what are we missing?
jden,
You hit the nail on the head (no terrible pun intended
)
Kat
Blink, I understand. (cringe)
I cringe with you.
B
Jden,
I had not read your first comment until just now.
I agree that Arias could have let herself in the wee hours of the 4th and hacked Travis’ computer or just used the password, which she has already admitted to possessing. She could have done purposeful damage, as part of her continued premeditated activities. Also, I’d like to say something about the supposed phone sex tape that is expected to be played. Is it not within the realm of likely possibility that she set him up with that, too, such as telling him she’d like him to play a certain role (to make him look bad later)?ALSO, she was a WILLING participant in it, whatever it was. Why are we not besmirching HER character for it? Why is Travis a supposed deviant for doing something like that, but JA just the ”
innocent victim”? Come on, no matter what, the jury is supposed to judge “the event”, as Jden stated, and even if he WERE (I don’t believe he was) a sexual deviant, what does that make her for doing the same things? AND it is NO self-defense case, regardless! Who needs to overkill like that, to get away from someone? She slaughtered the man! She deserves the DP.
Sammy says:
January 31, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Like Georgiadad I read alot about this case including other boards
It may make you feel better to know that Martinez spoke to both sisters and all seems okay He asked are we good and they nodded yes, since then nothing seemed strained between them.
It must be horrific to be a family member and have to be witness to it all.
I dont think the family could have reacted any differently had they been warned it was coming or not- A warning can never brace for the horror of what Jodi Arias did to their brother whom they love.
I agree with you I think it needed to be done-
AJMO
Cadillac says:
January 31, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Why wouldn’t she just go buy a gas can – why was she so persistent in borrowing them?
Seems you would less likely have a trail if you went somewhere and paid cash rather than pester a friend for theirs?
Hey Cadilac good point – But what if you were desparate to have a trail-
We know Jodi Arias lied to everyone about her plans
She told the rental car guy she was taking a trip around town
We know she went to her ex boyfriends whom she hadnt seen and whom she pestered for the gas cans since the end of May-
We know she became testy when he had the audacity to ask what she needed them for-
We know this man had a sister who had recently had a new baby-
We know Jodi on the day she went to borrow these cans told him her plan was to visit his sister and the new baby and take pics…
We know she had told Utah guy the same story before she went to the exs home to borrow the cans
We know she told police that 1/2 of the trip was based on visiting this “friend” and her new baby and havinfg a photography session-
we know she told police she went here but got lost and then the friend wasnt home- so she slept in her car…
We know she later changed her story to after missing this friend she decided to go to Travis-
We know she didnt stop for gas anywhere near Travis we know she turned off her phone for this time period also
We know she said she was never anywhere mesa
I believe everything Jodi did in the lead up to this murder was to set up a trail- just not the one she was actually taking-
Just like her call to a dead Travis and her “helpfulness” to police
Jodi Arias planned this but she was expecting to be believed-
She had set up corroborated phone calls texts- etc etc.
It was a ruse nothing Jodi did was “innocently” done
She didnt buy the cans cuz she needed the ex to be part of the puzzle
This is what I think
AJNO
Peace
NaNa says:
January 31, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Travis may have been a sexual deviant, and lies to women. But there wasnt any evidence that he was threatening to any of them.
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Hi Nana- you wrote that there is no evidence of Travis being threatening toward anyone-
Youre right we have seen no evidence of this in the trial
There has also been no evidence presented that would portray Travis has a sexual deviant-
There is evidence that he lied however-
All we have heard so far in the way of evidence of SD has been in the defenses opening statement.
–And even if it is proven he had these issues how doeas that prove Jodi needed to kill him in self defense-? Walk away-
report his abuse- report his issues to the Bishop- dont go to his house have sex then kill him
Seriously Jodi case is like the praying Mantis misspelling intended-
“Look I am a good Mormom Travis isnt- he deserves to be punished..”
Snap goes her jaws
Then she walks away satisfied in more ways than one..
Self defense? Not
Nana I totally agree with what you wrote:
If he was, then why did Jodi drive all the way across the desert to see him? I would steer clear of anyone who hurt me. The prosecutor was smart to throw up that picture with his neck slashed and say what he said. She may have been angry, or hurt, but cold blooded murder is not an acceptable solution. She was away from him and should have stayed away.
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Jodi Arias never ever had any trouble just walking away- again if she were frightened if he was a sicko if she wanted him punished why not go to the bishop? Why not stay away from him-
And all the evidence we have heard so far goes to show jodi Arias as the aggressor and Jodi Arias as the instigator-
Nana, I am sorry to read of your painful past, thank you for sharing this with us. I am glad you removed yourself from the harm
I agree with you Jodi Arias does not come off as a victim of abuse in any way-
A victim of abuse acting in self defense does not commit a murder like this and then merrily go on to the next man- they are weery of all men all relationships especially when the person believed the guy was good only to supposedly;y find out he was a sexual deviant into pedophilia etc-
I agree with your thoughts on Travis wounds and he kerosene and all.
Thanks for weighing in Nana Take care.
AJMO
It appears Travis kept his relationship secret from his Mormon church and friends, since he was considered an elder.
He was seeing other women. He struggled with abstinence. He lied about his relationship with Jodi. He lied about being a virgin. He mislead his church, friends and family. Jodi was supposed to be a kind, soft spoken person. Defense witnesses claim she was not violent.
Do all of these things entitle a person to take the life of another? To me, that is the bottom line. The defense can hack away at Travis’ faults, flaws and short comings. They can paint Jodi as a sweet, girl next door, type.
We still have a dead young man and a girl who admitted she did it. There is still no solid proof of abuse. Jodi even admitted on a 48 hours interview, they were both guilty of using each other. That may not be admissable. It darn well should be.
Jodi had other choices. She was NOT cornered or fighting for her life when she butchered, shot and stomped on Travis, who was slowly bleeding out to his death. The lies during the interrogation, the ‘performance’ she put on to Travis’ friends and family shortly after his death and @ hisfuneral, proves she knew right from wrong….the extent she went to, to protect herself speaks for itself.
…and she is not that petite! She’s big boned, 5’6″ and I suspect, a lot stronger than anyone givers her credit, for.
JMHO and TGIF
according to the friend Daniel?
A guy who by the way has visited JA in jail 7 times
He reluctantly admitted that Travis did not want to be alone with Jodi-
He wanted a buffer-
Travis was not the experienced one he was not the agressor
Jodi was not Travis dirty little secret-
he dated her openly had her over to his home openly went on trips with her openly-
he broke it off openly and he struggled with that decision openly.
Like with all relationships sex complicates the issue
For someone as inexperienced as Travis was it complicates it more
Sex is a powerful thing -but Jodi Arias was not some inexperienced woman her duct tape was no longer sticking but Travis’ was still fresh
He was working with his bishop he was trying- he failed the night of June 4th
I think Jodi was counting on it
I think she punished Travis not for not loving her- not for living a lie, not in self defense -but for F’ing her over.
Those pics and the whole way they were presented to the jury “accidentally” oops i forgot the evidence # giggle giggle- witness holds them up for jury to see with a huge smile on his face-
SO Wrong-
We arent even sure if this evidence will make it into trial- but the images are there-
We cant say who put them on the computer when or why-
and what difference does it make ?
So Travis was not the perfect Mormom we get it- neither was Jodi
How does this work to prove JA had no choice but to kill him in self defense?
I dont care if they used costumes dildos ky …
I would hope the jury doesnt either-
Can we get back to what really matters?
AJMO
Blink,
thanks for the COA explanation! The news said it was a def appeal to dismiss all charges but I can’t ever trust the news they get so much wrong.
I never heard Sky said “sexual” issues. All I heard Nurmi quote was “issues” “but nothing like this” never said “sexual issues”.
Deanna REID (not REED btw)
He wasn’t logged on to her youtube account. The ref to USER was for logged on to WINDOWS. (most likely it was her laptop at one time and she gave it / sold it to Travis)
The WINDOWS logged on user only viewed youtube videos, there was no testimony about literally logging in to any youtube account.
Def tricks – This underhanded stunt will come back to bite them!
Trying to infer Daft Punk Hard Bodies Faster is pornish. FAR from the truth and don’t think Martines won’t straighten that one out.
Daft Punk videos were/are like a ‘fad’ dance thing if you check any Daft stuff on youtube. Here is one that fits exactly what Arias described to Flores “w girls with ‘things on their heads’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6RJyZdBSU
“Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger” features a robotic vocal performance by Daft Punk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harder,_Better,_Faster,_Stronger
Then a ref to a proxy VIDEO. Probably an advertisement pop-up is my guess. NOT a the same a proxy browser!
Computer drives
There are TWO drives. 1. his laptop not damaged
2. an internal drive 2 1/2 like a laptop might use, but it was EXTERNAL to any system, not attached to anything.
IMPORTANT to know, ‘damaged’ doesn’t mean broken like someone threw it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_sector
Unrecovable SECTORS are in regards to the #2 damaged 2 1/2 drive. NOT Travis’ computer.
“Unallocated” aka FREE space had nothing to do with Hard Drive sectors. That was in regards to the camera memory stick. Brand new computers have Unallocated space.
It just means ‘free/freed’ space, available space.
Food for thought: I’m almost positive Jodi referenced she had a broken external drive in storage that ‘I couldn’t afford to get fixed’. I’ll find that video and post the link.
I think the audio is the phone sex tape not related to the computer perhaps? Wouldn’t that be Jodi’s phone most likely? No idea how or if that can come in. If California law doesn’t allow recording then how does it come in? I’m lost on that one.
Martinez. Why should he have brought in the laptop penis? Sorry Blink, have to disagree on this one. I don’t see how that is needed for his CIC. And, I’d bet there is nothing there past more def red herrings. I’m thinking we are going to see it was all a def stunt. JW was giggling like a 12 yr old prancing around waving pics like a 4th of July marching band to make sure those pictures were seen. I’m thinking she is the one worried she won’t be able to get them in. If not, this stunt backfires on her with the jury imo. I’m starting to get the feeling from their questions, this jury isn’t as dumb as I feared. They are begging for proof of abuse and Nurmi isn’t delivering.
At worst, that is Travis’ penis. So what? We’ve seen that before. If snapping intimate parts was support for DV murder, half the population would be dead. Playboy, Playgirl, Hustler would have been shut down by the Feds years before cell phone sharing.
I don’t see Martinez afraid at all. I saw an experience smart prosecutor, object to evidence (an unknown penis) that this computer guy can’t possibly testify he knows who it belongs too. Typical objection. If the def really had anything of value, why didn’t she lay proper founation. Who’s drive is it from, where was it found etc. I think she pulled that stunt because she is the one that feared it won’t be allowed.
Martinez is well aware of what the def has and he went with DP all the same, even turned down Arias’ two beggings for a plea deal.
As far as the Hughes go, my feeling at this point is oh well. They’ve been putting themselves out there, on TV, self appointed. Chris himself felt the need to bring up those letters AFTER they were precluded. DUH.
I think they played busy bodies all by themselves without the seasoned prosecutor risking trouble for himself. (I am nosy as heck though to find out WHAT issues was big mouth Sky referring to? Nurmi never said ‘sexual’ issues, just issues. Issues committing, sexual issues, sexual identiy issues, or just plain insecure or financial issues? NOT that I think any of them could support Jodi abuse)
I know one thing for sure, sleazy Gus isn’t the one to make me worry. LOL now he’s too chicken to want the limelight! That alone speaks volumes. Afraid to face Martinez, he’s now wanting no cameras, shaken in his boots on the phone. LOL If that is all they have for misconduct, it is another epic fail for the def.
I’m going to guess/hope the jury is more like myself— bored, fed up, sick and tired of def nonsense w mormon lectures and porn attempts that have nothing to show me abuse to sway me for what I saw guns and gas cans, 27 stabs, a throat slit ear to ear and a gun shot. Murder x3 premeditated.
I reserve the right to flip flop at any given minute
I just want to say how much I enjoy all of your intelligent minds here. Some of the things you say really challenge my mind and make me think. I cannot describe how refreshing its to not hear everyone taking sides and bashing. Keep it up guys! I will be a long time reader, but rarely post. (You guys are just so smart!!)
I appreciate your kind contribution Liz.
B