Jodi Arias Trial: New Witnesses May Reveal Defense Strategy- Prosecution Omissions
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Phoenix, AZ- In a terse exchange prior to the hiatus in the Arias trial, the defense repeated their contention that they want The Honorable Sherry Stephens to order a directed verdict or a mistrial in the State’s case against Jodi Arias.
As reported exclusively by BOC it does seem the prosecution missed quite a bit of potential evidence including a possible motive- the duct tape around Travis’s right arm. Was it the final straw that made Jodi Arias snap as she was allegedly taking photos of Travis in the shower without his knowledge?
There was also an exparte hearing held in Judge Stephen’s chambers, however, the contents of those minutes have not yet been filed- although the docket suggests they have. The defense is now testing Jodi Arias’s canon camera for some undisclosed reason.
With the defense preparing to start its case next week in spite of the outstanding motions before the court- have the prosecution’s actions harmed their case?
The issue at the forefront seems to hinge on something that the prosecution never introduced- On Purpose, says Prosecutor Juan Martinez.
The prosecution’s very first witness, Maria Hall, who was the female friend attending the Cancun trip with Alexander on June 10th, told the court that Travis told her he had been stalked while on a date with another girl and had his tires slashed. The intimation before the court was clear regardless of the defense attempts to point out that Travis never said it was Jodi who was responsible.
Nancy Grace and Jane Velez Mitchell lit up their HLN evening roster discussing Arias’s stalker behavior with several associates of Alexander. Dr. Karl Hiatt said one Sunday he was told that he had his tires slashed and that it was possible that something might escalate and he may not show up for dinner as a result.
Outside the presence of the jury Juan Martinez argued that they did not call the witness who Travis was on that particular date with because he did not want to create “an inflammatory” situation for the jury causing an appellate issue.
However, Martinez also lets it slip that Lisa Andrews Daidone does not want to testify and the defense tells the judge the prosecution has withheld her contact information from them and THEY intend to call her. Daidone recently deleted her FB profile and other social media sites in her name.
Does it make any sense to anyone why a prosecutor would not call a witness who could place a dangerous weapon in the hands of a person committing a destructive and openly violent act who they allege is guilty of doing exactly that for exactly the same reasons in the instant case?
From Daidone’s bog entry in 2008:
”…So because Heavenly Father allowed this to happen, I have grown in such a way that I couldn’t have otherwise, or at least not as quickly. While if you asked me a few months from now if I could go back would I change it, I would say “Absolutely,” I’m not sure how much I would actually change about it. Of course I wouldn’t want Travis to be taken. I might even opt for Jodi to be popped instead. But who am I to decide the fate of the hundreds of people that have been effected by this? It’s hard
to say which way is better. Travis always talked about Opportunity Cost. He spoke of how his time could be used best, to benefit the maximum amount of people. I’m sure he wishes he could have done more while he was here, but I don’t think he regrets leaving. He is doing something amazing up in the Spirit World. I know it. I can feel it. He is continuing to learn and progress. He’s helping others to do the same. He is the same wonderful, creative, spontaneous, caring, gentle, driven, foe- paint-loving, show-tune-singing man that I fell in love with…”
Is it because in the 48 Hours Mystery program so frequently noted by the defense Detective Flores openly states there was no evidence whatsoever that Jodi was involved in that incident after he repeats his theory that Travis was shot first? Both these statements made by the lead detective in the case on national television directly conflict with the prosecution’s case as testified by Esteban Flores.
NO.
Is it because they already know who was responsible for the multiple tire slashing incidents and presenting that information might corroborate a story told to them by Arias in the past?
In her own words, Lisa Andrews Daidone began dating Travis Alexander in July 2007. According to the minutes filed from trial January 16th, the tire slashing incident was in December 2007, both Alexander and Andrew’s tires were slashed and the individual came to the front door . Martinez states Andrews will testify to these facts. Prior to dating Alexander, Daidone was dating a common friend and member of their Mormon ward- Steve Bell. Arias claims she and Travis began dating February 2, 2007.
Daidone will not go into how she and Travis began dating, or why, but there is a Steve Bell connected to this group that has had some serious troubles with the law immediately preceding the break up, and many following.
Could the mystery stalker have been on her end and NOT Arias? If so, you can bet the defense will be bringing that issue into court next week and providing the jury with this eye opening gem- expected to cause further problems with the State’s theory.
That’s not all, unfortunately.
Thomas Brown, a former roommate of Travis Alexander in the home of his murder, was interviewed up to three times by Detective Flores whereby he told them that Jodi had open access to the home when he was around and the Arias he knew was completely shy and somewhat awkwardly withdrawn. He was having a hard time picturing her do this without help and he told cops that.
He also told them something about Travis being shocked to get the call that Jodi Arias was standing outside the home the early morning hours of June 4, 2008 and that he had been up all night performing some sort of protection rite. Brown’s information was not included in any information given to the defense and he was not even aware his name came up in the investigation by Jodi Arias herself. I would expect that issue to surface promptly as well.
Gus Searcy, $100K ring earner for Prepaid Legal Services and now Legal Shield was noticed to be available this week for interview. Travis was scheduled to be on the conference call with Searcy at 6:45PM the evening of his murder.
Artful Dodging
While the trial is in hiatus, one are of Jodi Arias’s life is quite active and well, pecuniary.
Arias, through her family, has taken to EBay to sell her personally rendered offerings the macabre set is snatching up for a few hundred clams a piece during the trial.
It is believed to be managed by Arias’s mother Sandy, who uploaded images to Arias’s MySpace after her incarceration to include one of Gary Alexander- Travis’s older brother.
The defense portion of the Jodi Arias trial for the murder of Travis Alexander led by Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott will begin its case January 29th.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates.
Jacqueline Beaufort, contributing editor
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Georgiadad
I agree with your well thoughtout points 1-5. Your point six could be explained if Jodi had taken the gun from the grandparents home for self protection while making the long drives. Sociopathic behavior may produce some strange activities, but often they have a backup or plan B. When a search was made of the rental car, a 9mm pistol was found hidden somewhere in it. How did she acquire this gun and when? Was it purchased or did she borrow that gun from someone?
The damaged hard drive evidence is something else. Who “broke” the hard drive and how damaged were the heads or disk surfaces? Apparently there is some concern that it was damaged during the time it was in the custody of the Mesa PD or the county sheriff.
If the damage is slight enough to simply cause the drive firmware to mark the area unreadable and send a flag to the operating system so that it could not be accessed normally, there are flux transition copying programs that could make a copy of the drive contents and these copies could be used by drive experts to recover data from every place on the drive. If this data is actually something that is detrimental to the prosecutions case and they are not going to be forthcoming about it, they could make the jury mad enough to either find that Jodi is innocent or that they cannot come to a verdict and have a hung jury. Not a good place for the prosecution.
Does anyone have the dates of the Cancun trip? Would it have fallen over JA’s birthday, July 9? (Irony that another slasher, OJ, shares that day of birth.)
June 10th- June 16th or 17th. There was an availability for some to go earlier and extend but definitely not over the 9th.
B
Morning Blink. Why isn’t the prosecutor picking on more discripencies as to what witnesses testifies for the defense? An example: ex and long boy friend of Jodi testifies she took a picture from him under the shower without his knowledge or consent. He testifies he had once anal sex with her. Blink did i get this wrong? If i understood this correctly Why isn’t the prosecutor not persistent in the survey and these conditions are not repeated often enough so the Jury may be more aware that it wasn’t Travis that brought Jodi to do those things because she done this before with an other man…( just one example )
Sorry Blink if i am behind with the trial Sessions as i cannot watch those live and have to pick what is posted on you tube. So i may not be updated as you all are but with some delay. Anyway reading your comments helps me a lot. Thanks
Premeditation =
May confirmation of gas cans, altered hair color, non-descript rental car, receipts (minus Arizona), stolen gun, kerosene, PC surfing, phone sex recording.
If Travis had not been able to leave the shower, the murder scene would have stayed intact and clean as planned. Element of surprise gives advantage of dominance. Kill and then turn the water on and rinse all traces, toss the laundry and erased SD card in the washing machine, burn evidence in the desert. Return rental.
Oops. Travis fought back. (The thought of this and the defense wounds on his hands tears at my heart… this beautiful boy died in terror)
Arias did not plan for all the blood and a fight back… did not think gloves would be necessary as per her own admonition. If she were to kill, she would shoot repeatedly until he was dead.
Adrenaline rush. Think fast. Not much time now, roomates due back, when? Socks over shoes, drag Travis back to shower. Run water while I clean up. Lock door. Done.
I wasn’t there. Oops. Palm print and photos.
I mean, I was there and it was horrible. I’m a victim too. Oops. Over my head with that story.
Travis deserved to die and I had to do it.
@Jden says:
February 2, 2013 at 11:22 am
“Premeditation =”
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If she couldn’t have him no one would have him. Motivation..jealousy.
We could make a whole new category called Say Whats?!
‘and then I touched it’ (it would still be ‘touching’ his blood when you are sayiing you weren’t there) lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d4MV_fKjw0&feature=player_detailpage#t=2014s
Flores telling her we have your bloddy palm print-
Jodi – “could my palm print have already been there and then I touched it.”
For the record, I don’t believe Jodi will ever take the stand!
Won’t be any time soon if she does. Nurmi, during the scheduling stated he has experts all this week.
Based on his line up and then his unavailability on the 8th (smart, he wants the misconduct after the experts but before the defendant in case he loses) I don’t believe they have a choice.
If he is successful at getting a jury instruction, admonishment or sanction out of it, then maybe not.
If the goal is a hung jury or mistrial forcing the state to consider murder 2 again, she must testify.
Also, as a strategy, Martinez will behave like a rabid dog to her so he will probably have a few more issues to complain about.
I hope I just overly paranoid on this one- I just cannot get comfortable.
B
I don’t think you are overly paranoid Blink.
We know from history anything can happen.
I couldn’t cheer a side blindly if you put a gun to my head.
Agree! Martinez would be a rapid dog! He is very skilled in what he does, a master on this case. That is not to say he is error free but he is amazing overall. Any ‘hope’ for finding a complaint would be so minuscule compared to the guaranteed damage she’d do herself, I just can’t see them taking that kind of risk. She isn’t a good liar, couldn’t even keep up with Flores! She’d be mincemeat in Martinez hands. Her and DT know she is no match for Martinez. I agree, their goal is to avoid DP. Putting a bad liar up there isn’t a way to do that imo. I’d pay good money to see it go down. I don’t believe I’ll ever get the chance.
“HAVE TO” take the stand. I hear that a lot but … Fact is, the Constitution says she doesn’t have to, ever. I’ve heard ‘have to’ many times for many cases when it never rolled out to happen. In Anthony the TH had the same hype, even those thinking day after day… today is the day. Never happened. I don’t see anything different here.
I think this def team has studied Baez / CA case like a textbook. Past the tiny chair shrinking violet tricks. i.e – invent, change, accuse anything you want for opening! Don’t worry you might have to prove any of that, just throw the dirt out like fertilizer.
Juries almost always ignore the instruction that tells them this is NOT evidence and unfortunately let it influence them as if it was.
lmao, rapid and rabid dog
Poll…will she take the stand? I say “no”.
Reason; who could ever believe this woman. She’s changed stories as often as she’s changed clothes. What better defense than to blame TA for Jodi’s lethal actions. Self defense..BS!!
Marie
Your post regarding all the things the defense is putting out there made me think of a situation with a friend who was an attorney.
One saturday afternoon I went by his office to go with him to fly his new Cessna 175 airplane. He was working on a case and had just finished getting the typed material from his legal assistant. He said “here read this and see what you think”. After reading it with a long list of allegations I asked if he thought he could prove them. His reply was “all I need is one. The others are there to make the other side work hard and to be prepared to address each one” This took place about 45 years ago so this concept is still in use. Will it work on the current case? We will not be able to answer that until the verdict is in.
A Texas Grandfather 12:17 am
thanks for sharing that I enjoyed it. I can always hope if there is that one, it’s a cast off alternate. I like to dream once in awhile.
Slasher forgets to use her child voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d4MV_fKjw0&feature=player_detailpage#t=2092s
Marie,
Is there a certain time in that tape where JA’s voice is not the usual child-like voice? I listened to the whole thing and I must have missed it.
Kat
Kat,
to me when she wants to see the pictures. Start around 35:00
“NO, there’s a morbid curiosity, I WANT TO KNOW HOW HE DIED”
lol, Flores was softer speaking than her at that point.
to compare better, go to day 2 when she is playing little girl scared of the meanie ninjas and Flores is louder than her going in and out of her act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-tqXr2YNShg#t=57s
ok guys, I’m catching up a bit (and giving myself a diversion… hubby broke his leg yesterday am on the ice and well… he’s been out of surgery since last night, and I’m needing some diversion AND prayers )
ok, on the topic of a crime scene and the mess I don’t think JA planned for, ever clean up blood?? its hard to do.
After hubby’s surgery last night, he had tons of drainage from the incisions, we couldn’t get him up at all until this morning, I’m no stranger to caring for sick/injured/etc. I start changing his sheets while PTherapy guy has hubby up.
No understatement when I say lots and lots of blood. it’s hard to clean blood from surfaces.
it spreads, etc.
I truly don’t think JA planned that at all.
I think she should take the stand because she cant keep a straight story if she were reading it, but I fear it because we know more than the jury does.
sorry I went ot there, but I’m probably a tad delirious from sleeping on a hospital recliner …lol.
Many prayers for hubby, and for his nurse
Bit freaky although mine is way minor in comparison- I broke my forefoot and 5th metatarsal and am in that fancy boot.
Not drawing a parallel to hubby’s post-op bleeding because it is unsettling of course, but you are 1000% correct on blood clean up. I don’t think a layperson can imagine the kind of blood we are talking here, and I do mean EVERYWHERE. Including Arias. Add into that the aspirated blood and clots on the sink area that clearly so different rates of plasma separation.
Cleaning up blood loss of this type and from these wounds is like pushing it around from surface to surface really. I equate it with sap from a pine when it dries a tad, and like maple syrup in the way it transfers. Agave syrup when fresh. I do think she made a futile initial attempt to clean it up.
That’s not self-defense.
B
Reported it personally.
B
Well Blink one has to consider Jodi’s perspective of self defense.
The attempt at clean up was a prevenative to LE getting enough information to tie her to the deed. Defending herself from the police. She probably had no idea of the volume of blood from a human so she just gave up the clean up and got out of the area. Unfortunately the mental mind games she played with herself about what happened could not be kept straight when questioned by experienced detectives.
She thought she had won when five days passed with nothing from the police. The phone calls were made IMO to determine what was going on as well as to try and establish the fact she considered Travis to be alive. More defense.
agreed. If I were prosecuting this case, I would have a timeline with audio/visual interaction of all these items pointing to premediation and end with the video of her comment that no jury would convict her.
B
ChristY, : ( prayers <3
"External drive" I remembered Jodi saying she had that she said wasn't working in interrogation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCxFA-LPSmc
@ 2:49:49
"they were from a lot of church history trips which … are on
"MY OTHER EXTERNAL DRIVE" which ah, why I haven't been able to access for awhile, since after Christmas cause it just quit, ah, and I just haven't had the money to spend to get all that stuff back.
Marie, from that same clip that you posted 2/4 at 236:am, Arias states “there’s just no reason that I would ever want to hurt Travis”. Doesn’t sound like an abused woman to me.
Spending some time today looking at this case more. Poor Travis. He doesn’t deserve to have his personal life put on trial. She is evil. Looking at the shower photos there is 1 minute 10 seconds between the photo where he is looking at the camera and the last one where he is on the floor of the shower. Were they arguing and then she threatened him with knife or gun? Why was he on the floor? Vulnerable position to be in. Ugh. I hope the jury convicts her. Prayers for his family that they can get some peace. To have to sit thru the trial and relive this brutal attack would be very painful.
I thought the damaged hard drive was hers!!! So…what does her having peen pics on that HD mean!?!
Is my memory failing or was there 2 different phone numbers for JA? I thought I recalled 2 different numbers for her during the earlier phone record testimony…just curious if anyone else recalls that as well and if there is any way to prove the phone she got from Gus supports premeditation?
Happy Monday!
I’m sorry but the hairstyle is overboard. Arias is not 7 years old.
Unsure why she started crying when they introduced testimony about her hair color? The only occasions that I have seen Arias cry real tears are when she feels sorry for herself.
I promise you it only goes downhill from here. No doubt she demanded to be on the stand- the sociopaths always do . They convince themselves they are truthful, and that everyone else will see that.
This girl is borderline PD, maybe fodder for the tinhat crowd who believes in that reptilian species, or whatever.
You would not even know this girl was sitting in the witness box for a heinous capital murder trial – she is disassociative. If her parents did beat her, and I certainly do not condone that, it was because they thought they could get whatever “lives within” her out.
B
Her hair was still lighter in the pics presented today that were supposedly taken in may than it was in June. ..she still dyed her hair. Prosecution needs to show pics of her on june 4 to illustrate the hair is still darker than in may…imo
I have had my hair every color under the sun..andvi have changed hair colors MULTIPLE times in the same month…
Purpose of t-shirt and undies pic taken a MONTH after he was dead…wth was the defense trying to prove? That seems just dumb on their part…
And the single biggest mistake on the part of the defense starts NOW.
She is on the stand.
B
Blink… wanna check over this way and share some good news about Megan Sharpton and the monster Donnie Jones and his GUILTY plea today???
Megan stopped him!!
love ya.
Love ya back, have been on the devices all day starting with Kelly and then the investigators that deserve major kudos in this case. I will get to that thread as best I can, but if you beat me there please do, I am on live testimony in this case.
B
OMG…I’ve been out all day and am now trying to catch up. Seriously – on the stand? I hope the prosecution is prepared for this. Hopefully, they’ll poke holes the size of Cleveland in everything she says. I hope this jury pays close attention to every word. May justice soon be served.
I thought Vinnie Politan was having a HEART ATTACK when she took the stand. LOL
It’s all over for the defense.
And didn’t she buy hair color when she was on her way to Mesa?
Wooden Spoons
Belts
Bo-flex
Skipping Class to study at RiteAid
Goth Boyfriends
Vampires
Anne Rice novels
Holy Hell….oscar winning screenplay writers couldn’t come up with this crap!!
Pretty sure she said a jury wouldn’t convict her because she is INNOCENT…
The lies just keep pouring out….a good chunk of her story doesn’t jive!
If her mother willing agreed to accepting this bs abuse story…ugh!
Seriously excited for cross…I hope Juan doesn’t blow this, I mean she is giving him so much material!!!
I can’t wait to hear what Blink and ya’ll think about todays circus!!
I think she thinks she will be convicted anyway and all of us watching are going to be put to the agony as a result. Just wow.
B
(snipped)
“And the single biggest mistake on the part of the defense starts NOW.
She is on the stand.
Gotta get back to more of the lies she’s spinning to Nurmi’s questions. I’m a little fearful of cross examination tho..Martinez comes across as a bully at times.
B”
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I know you are being serious Blink, but…I’m lmao at your remark
Even he is not going to knock her block off, so to speak. The point is she is completely disassociated, and as such she is not going to be prompted into humanity.
She is a walking, talking, knife and gun wielding social experiment, ftlog.
B
Why does she keep turning to her right when answering questions or am I not seeing the whole picture? Did I hear correctly one of her prior boyfriends committed suicide? What’s that all about?
Because this nitwit is pretending to be disassociated yet she knows well enough to speak directly to the jury. There is NOOOOO connection to Nurmi and she is jibberish.
Just used the word contemporaneous.
B
You would not even know this girl was sitting in the witness box for a heinous capital murder trial – she is disassociative. If her parents did beat her, and I certainly do not condone that, it was because they thought they could get whatever “lives within” her out.
B
Martinez may not be able to prompt her into humanity, but he may get at what “lives within” her.
Maybe. I am on the floor with this approach. I am likely to start using non-clinical terms.
B
Why do they just let her ramble on? She doesn’t come across as remorseful at all! Strange woman! Would she stop giggling and smiling?
I’m looking at HLN as I type. Gosh, JA looks like a little brown wren. I’ve heard her talk about every Johnny, Ricky, Tom and Joe… I want to hear about Travis. She’s made every single man mentioned sound abusive. What a set up – poor pitiful me. I was abused so much I just couldn’t deal with it again. Her stories are more than boring. Is it possible she can talk her way out of this murder?
This girl is just bat snit crazy.
Absent my ability to conjure an appropriate clinical term, I will simply concur.
B
Sooo…lemme get this straight…she drives to Oregon on a regular basis to hang out with Bobby (he had a futon, right?) and his roommate Matt WHO HAD A GIRLFRIEND…she sees how Matt treats said girlfriend and she wants that and now Bobby has no use for her anymore, so she gets Matt to date her….is that REALLY what I heard?
Again, has her next victim in her sights and starts laying the foundation with them before she ends it with the current…
I get what the defenses is attempting to do, although I don’t see it working, but geez get to the damn point already…
Did we note she caught him “courting” another?
LOL at “he had a futon”. I am hearing it, and unfortunately I can offer no insight
So I have been watching Jody on the stand ramble on about these men and parents and smiling slightly
So far I just don’t get it
That’s because you are smart, have a conscience, are kind, and you are not an as yet unclassified species wearing a human flesh suit.
Sorry for the snark guys. The contrast here is astounding.-
B
B
So here’s the thing, I just watched about an hour of her testimony, and (excluding the fact that she’s a cold-blooded murderer) she seems perfectly normal to me. I don’t have any problem accepting the wooden spoons and maybe even a belt (missed hearing about the Bo-Flex), the Goth boyfriends who said they believed in vampires, and certainly not that she read Anne Rice. The studying at Rite-Aid was probably the story already way back then, and sounds like a typical teenage lie. I just think it is all within the bounds of the normal distribution of the normal American woman of her age.
That’s what’s bat snit crazy. This is supposed to be somehow related to her ability to chop TA to smithereens in self defense?
She’s pretty smart in some ways, though (contemporaneous vocabulary aside). We may not see the jury on camera, but I can visualize some of them, as her tales are building allies, imo. Pretty sure there are some big beautiful women there.
Osu says:
February 4, 2013 at 5:54 pm
Why do they just let her ramble on? She doesn’t come across as remorseful at all! Strange woman! Would she stop giggling and smiling?
Yea right? lol- You notice that’s why for the most part Martinez has remained basically silent? He’s letting her ramble on and on. To me she is so full of baloney I cant stand it and I cant stand watching her mother and aunt either.
I don’t know, but after the juror’s question about the whereabouts of the roommates, I think at least one juror was still struggling with the question of whether she even did it at all, with how she COULD physically overtake Travis. He was fit and much larger than her, and if she had adrenaline racing around her system, well he did too! I think the prosecution made a mistake in playing those interrogation videos on and on. The jury was swayed by her at that point. I think at least one of them believed the two intruder story. I know there are some who thought her lawyers talked her into this plea. A forced confession in a way.
IMO the jury needed to hear her say she did it, and now they have. She said it straight out, and no I don’t think there’s any way she can talk her way out of this murder, and very little chance of the self defense thing going her way. Because it was overkill.
Maybe she’ll get life in prison without parole. Personally, I’m against the death penalty, but I think she has to be in prison without parole. She really is dangerous. I think Martinez is rabid for the death penalty because the family really wants it, and well, that is the law. Who can blame the family for wanting revenge, but I think the jury might feel differently.
NG showed the table that Jodi A. would be put to death on. She filmed the whole room and described the process. She pointed out that witnesses can watch through a window. I swear, she seemed gleeful and it turned me off to her show. I think Juan Martinez needs to be careful because the jury might have real problems with the death penalty. If we do that to convicted criminals, and more, if we’re GLEEFUL or SATISFIED about it, IMO we’re lowering ourselves. It makes us a bit like the criminal. To me, the whole subject is upsetting.
Blink: “you are not an as yet unclassified species wearing a human flesh suit”
Sorry, I know what you mean, but that conjured Silence of the Lambs imagery.
Perhaps my real-time imagery description was lacking proper illustrative cues, I agree, but I think maybe I am- in general, when it comes to Arias. Maybe Invasion of the body snatchers?
Martinez is going to town on her, he thinks.
This is a mental defense without it being a “not guilty by reason of ” defense.
He is surely betting on the misconduct thing working out.
B
And watching her mother and Aunt is interesting They seem so detached
If it really WAS self defense, she would have been mourning like crazy afterward, but she went to see her new boyfriend and had the presence of mind to try to cover it all up. I’d say she seemed even satisfied afterward. There’s no way this was self defense.
He is surely betting on the misconduct thing working out.
B
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Blink, sorry. What do you mean? Do you mean Nurmi?
Yes.
B
Gawd, when asked if she did kill Travis, she didn’t even shed a tear. I would have been so emotional you wouldn’t have even understood a word I said – if I even could.
Also, I wondering if they put her on the stand as an attempt at opening up a reason for a later appeal?
You all arent going to like it but I have to say-
So far Jodi Arias comes off as every other young person who has ever made a series of bad decisions.
She was 15-18 years old.
She thought she knew it all but didnt
Who here hasnt known someone or tried themselves to help a young person recognize their mistaken path of love and their own self worth?
I do think she may be making head way with any juror who is looking for a reason to let her off..
If she doesnt mess it up later her testimony could be helping.
Will a juror believe that she was acting in self defense not only over Travis but because of her past? Could a juror believe that she thought she had no choice?
Right now it is hard to believe this woman was capable of brutal premeditated murder
Sadly I dont think Travis thought so either…
I watched a movie recently called In The Cut its a very dark psychological murder mystery-
There was a series of poems in the movie…
- I couldnt help but think of Travis may he Rest in Peace
You’re a poet of love
The lovelorn man who
Sick in soul and of this busy human heart a weary
Worships the spirit of unconscious life
In tree or wildflower, gentle lunatic
Midway along the journey of our life
I woke to find myself in a dark wood…..
For I had wandered off from the straight path
Now thinking back on the course of my passion
I was like one blind
Unafraid of the dark
Text of poem/s found here:
http://www.best-love-poems.com/poems.php?id=754483
AJMO
Do they actually know that TA purchased those underoos and shirt? I just don’t see him doing that. IDK…this just seems to be such a fun game for Jodi. Could she have purchased these items herself?
One of the TH’s on Dr Drew tonight brought up a very good point concerning JA’s attempt to use “self defense” as her live preserver.
The TH is a Judge (didn’t catch her name-sorry), but her opinion is flat out adamant that JA is heading to the death penalty.
The judge referred to Arizona law which includes two (2) conditions must be met for a defense of “self defense” in the State of Arizona.
#1) that a person in a situation believes that physical force was immediately necessary to protect their life.
******AND*****
#2) The defendant used no more physical force than would be necessary to a reasonable person in that situation. The use of deadly force in self defense only as long as the deadly threat against them continues.
Neither the judge on the show or I believe that JA met either of these (2) standards for self defense (that’s all BS) … but she pointed out that there is an especially huge problem for JA using this excuse with prong #2 of the Arizona statute, and this will be explained to the jury during Jury Instructions.
The judge pointed put that stabbing someone 29 times, shooting them, and slashing their neck ear to ear practically down to the spinal cord … goes WAY beyond using only as much physical force as necessary to protect oneself.
JA = Way too much … overkill.
Here’s a snip of that section of the Arizona Jury instructions concerning self defense.
COPYRIGHT 2011, STATE BAR OF ARIZONA 55
4.04 − Justification for Self-Defense
A defendant is justified in using or threatening physical force in self-defense if the
following two conditions existed:
#1) A reasonable person in the situation would have believed that physical force was
immediately necessary to protect against another’s use or apparent attempted or
threatened use of unlawful physical force;
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#2) The defendant used or threatened no more physical force than would have
appeared necessary to a reasonable person in the situation.
A defendant may use deadly physical force in self-defense only to protect against
another’s use or apparent attempted or threatened use of deadly physical force.
Self-defense justifies the use or threat of physical force or deadly physical force only
while the apparent danger continues, and it ends when the apparent danger ends. The force
used may not be greater than reasonably necessary to defend against the apparent danger.
Here’s a link to Arizona Criminal Jury Instructions. The section explaining the 2 prongs necessary for self defense are located at section 4.04
http://www.azbar.org/media/292098/2011_cumulative_supplement.pdf
Been out most of the day and missed all the testimony by Jodi.
I am going to say that this woman has been a sick puppy most of her life. She lives in a fantasy world of her own making. She is a coniving, mean sociopath that has moved through life taking advantage of anyone she could, beginning with her immediated family and then turning it on to get her way in any social situation. All this raw sex and photo games was a way to convince Travis she would do anything to make him happy.
She is playing the crazy game and hopes that the court and the jury will take her bait and adjucate her to be insame so she can live a few years in an asylum and then be released when she convinces the doctors she is ok to be in society again.
She worked on this event for at least two months getting everything ready with all the purchases, borrowing and thefts. I hope the prosecution is smart enough to lead her through a series of questions to show the jury just what type of evil person she really is.
It seems like that black hair , black shirt , out dated glasses make her less believable for me
The whole deal looks like she is a beaten down poor little thing
Yet when she talks it is not so I think she might be more believable for me if she had stayed looking
As she did
Just my opinion
Blink,
Well, another time I was wrong, crazy took the stand.
Her testimony was so riveting, I fell asleep and missed the after lunch session.
Appears one of the trips she took out of the court room was to change into a longer sleeves top.
What I am not getting is … If Nurmi was counting on misconduct, why put her on the stand before that ruling? Why not save her suicide surprise if the misconduct doesn’t pan out? Why spill the beans early?
What am I missing?
I would love to hear from an objective observer how the jury is reacting to her.
Counting on it to the extent he can- and then put on your experts to explain to the layperson her affect, demeanor and mannerisms. Let this play out Marie, lol!
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@Sammy
Awesome find! This gives me hope!!
Last thought about today…
I do think Martinez limited his objections and is sitting back watching her ramble on because she is giving herself that much more rope he can use to hang her…it worked in the interview/interrogation process, so I think it would likely work again because she just doesn’t get when to stfu.. Her words will come back to bite her in her scrawny butt!!