Jodi Arias Trial Verdict IS IN: GUILTY Of MURDER In The Slaying Of Travis Alexander
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Phoenix, AZ- In the 4 month long trial of Jodi Ann Arias for the murder of her brief boyfriend Travis Victor Alexander, the jury deliberating since last Friday has arrived at a verdict in her case. Arias was found guilty of the pre-meditated murder of Travis Alexander on June 4th, 2008.
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Just opened a live stream of Jodi Arias and it is the court seal. Anyone know what happened and if there is going to be court today?
Nothing much.
Shitstorm request for mistrial.
Mitigation Womack witness mia because the prosecution advised her she could face IRS problems because of unreported photog income, and outing of her drug dependency issues.
Defense again requested withdrawl.
Mistrial denied.
Withdrawl denied.
Judge asked if defendant wished to allocute ( means give independent statement).
Feed out and now in recess.
Wah bam.
Thought I had seen it all.
B
Just opened a live feed and it is the court seal. Anyone know what is going on or if there is court today?
jeni- while I so respected and appreciated your comment, I cannot post it. I hope you understand it was not about you. I have a professional obligation.
B
CS: “Good Gravy you good people watching this?”
I’ve never seen anything quite like this. Is this some weird, legal analogue to a scorched earth strategy? Burn all your bridges and then complain that you have no bridges to cross. Seriously, I have to think the defense asked the court to grant requests the DT knew it wouldn’t grant and then cry foul. Who gives themselves a losing hand and then cry that the deck was stacked?
Juan Martinez needs an elizabethan collar of the plastic variety. But to a degree, you are right.
Preserving the record is the only goal at this point. In a loose and possibly obtuse analogy, I see this like golfing with my husband. He shoots in the low 80′s, but I bogeyed hole 17 at TPC Sawgrass.
Sometimes it is that .
B
Motion for mistrial denied. Motion for defense counsel to withdraw denied. Defense will not call any witnesses (Patty Womack, Daryl Brewer). Jodi will not speak until tomorrow 12:30p, edt/9:30am pdt.
Ummm….did all that just happen?
I agree her drug charges would go to credibility so I don’t think that was a personal attack as heavy d claims…but wth was that about defense counsel telling her to invoke the 5th.
And I’m sorry..but heavy d saying they can’t provide effective counsel because they have no mitigation witnesses..yeah that’s their own fault. They had the option for sealed testimony…no one wants to be the person who speaks on her behalf because they KNOW what she is and what she did.
What do you all think Stabby’s gonna say tomorrow?
This case never ceases to surprise me…
Twitch, heart you, but you have to refrain from the eggism’s. I love eggie like the next person, but I am a different site and while I grant some latitude, on my site I don’t find calling anyone Stabby is gonna fly. My bad, I saw it the other day and I should have mentioned it then.
My job is not easy, no throwing exxs, lol
B
Inda says:
May 19, 2013 at 11:43 pm
Hi Graceinthehills:
The program was Friday night at 10:00 pm Eastern.
CBS: 48 Hours: (New) Unraveling the lies of Jodi Arias.
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Thanks so much, Inda (sorry I spelled it wrong the first time!).
UN “FREAKIN” BELIEVABLE!!
Did Defense have any investigator?
If so, why were Womack’s issues unknown.
known. Considered irrelevant as to the witness testimony until JM had his interview.
In the legal circles I run in, they love a bad witness for the defense will not work to exclude the chance to expose same so I do not get the strategy per se here.
B
I’m sorry but a prosecutor with a murder 1 conviction threatening defense witnesses in the mitigation stage with prosecution on unconnected collateral matter (what’s the need imo?) is lower than low and should not be a gov’t employee. Go found a scavenger law firm.
Could the defense move to not call witness result in an appeal based on the defense not representing her well? Why would they decide to call no one just because the one person pulled out?
To substantiate their position.
B
To a lay person, it appears that Nurmi is saying that because no one will testify in Arias behalf for mitigation, Arias is denied a fair trial.
But if no one will speak to mitigating factors on Arias’ behalf, for any reason, whose ” fault ” is that?
Is Nurmi saying it is the fault of the court? The court gave a remedy :
Judge Stevens clearly said – and repeated:
Any and all witnesses that the defense wanted to bring forth for mitigation could give their testimony under seal.
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Blink- not understanding what you meant when you wrote:
In the legal circles I run in, they love a bad witness for the defense will not work to exclude the chance to expose same so I do not get the strategy per se here.
B
— can you clarify?
Missing a comma as a rare treat in my run-on I see, lol.
Prosecutors love bad witnesses in this phase for the defense and normally do not work to tip them off in advance. No idea why martinez did not just wait until she was on the stand.
B
Sorry Blink!! Shall not happen again!!
It’s all good my friend
B
when she was on stand is fair play, then D could object to his line of cross.
It is threatening in advance (by a prosecutor, with power) as a deterrant to
testify at all that I object to.
Tarheel says:
May 20, 2013 at 2:42 pm
Could the defense move to not call witness result in an appeal based on the defense not representing her well? Why would they decide to call no one just because the one person pulled out?
To substantiate their position.
B
Blink, to “substantiate their position” that they cannot represent her well due to witness intimidation? In my view this could and should be viewed as the defense giving up/not event trying, and it should result in penalties to counsel. Otherwise, why wouldn’t every defense that has no shot of getting winning their case, just throw in the towel giving their client reasons for an appeal based on ineffective counsel?
They want her to speak on her own, and YES they are absolutely catering to an appeal.
I have been saying this from the beginning, it is a sound strategy on occasion.
B
Geez Louise!
Enough already.
Time stamp on this trial is waaay past it’s expiration date.
Nurmi sounded like a 4y/o in court today.
Motion for mistrial … DENIED (again)
Ok … Let’s try this one again …
Motion for Nurmi & Wilmott to withdraw from case … DENIED. (again)
Stall, stall, stall.
Then Nurm’s utters that he’ll not put ANY witnesses up for JA – kinda like saying ‘if you won’t play the way I want, I’m taking my ball home’
the defense shot themselves in the foot.
Witness Patty had issues and they knew it. She sold pics of her & JA to media, possible drug issues … Etc.
Judge offered to have these witnesses say what they wanted in a closed courtroom – just attorneys & jury.
IMO …
The ONLY hope JA had at this stage was for her Mom to get up there and beg & cry that her daughters life be
spared. I don’t really think even that would be too effective at this point … but only shot they had was some pity for JA’s mom.
There’s a reason JA’s Mom was not scheduled to beg & plead for LWOP … I believe that was ALL b/c JA is running the show and refused to let her Mother speak.
I understand the Judge bending over backwards to avoid appeal issues …
But this has gone on too long and the defense is making a mockery of justice.
I imagine the jury is intelligent enough to figure out that they were once again sent home b/c of some matter with JA.
Everyday for 5 months they’ve shown up … Ready to do their civic duty.
Again, they are sent home with nothing accomplished.
Enough is enough.
No idea why martinez did not just wait until she was on the stand.
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If he had blindsided her on the stand he truly would look like a bad dog. IMOO I think he forewarned the witness of what would happen. Doesn’t the Jury need to know the relationship of the defendant and witness speaking to them about who the defendant is? Both areas of concern (drugs and photo income) were not only the witness’s problem but her and JA’ together.
Why are we again put on hold until tomorrow? Did the DT file a new motion that Attny Martinez brought up Jodi’s involvement with the witness in drugs and photos?
watching the hln review of Nurmi statement & judge’s response, how effective do you think J Stephens has been? what will be the appeals issues connected to judicial mgmt?
I think she may be second in line to Duncan, but I note this is her first DP case. I think most of her rulings have been fair, but mostly because the burden is insuring due process and that the defense falls short on substantive execution of argument and interpretation of case law. Again, I think a stellar defense team had a different outcome if the same case in chief was presented.
B
Strike that last comment…duhh…no jury heard that.
I wonder if Jodi will say anything tomorrow Blink what do you think
malty- I honestly do not know what to expect at this point. I am not even sure she will speak.
B
My thoughts on the witness tip-off by JM is that he knew about this well in advance and who is to say that JM has another purpose in mind for the witness in another case.
Destroying the witness at this time could create problems later.
Giving the defense credit here for doing everything they can. It ain’t pretty but look who they’re stuck with.
Willmott deserves a spa day including a korean bodyscrub and warm moisurizing treatment. It’s been a long learning experience for her and I wish her well. Ditto Nurmi and his future private practice.
I’m most curious as to why Darryl chose not to testify? Grandma? Anybody??
LWOP… I’m not seeing this jury passing down a death sentence. I’m seeing Jodi succumbing to insanity within her prison walls.
Juan, you did well by Travis. Thank you for your passion and perseverence.
We’re almost there. Travis Alexander, may you walk in peace, may you be healed by the Angelic Hosts, may your memory live on in those who love you.
MOO.
Will this ever be over? Jodi to speak tomorrow. I hope it will be “short and sweet” . I don’t believe she will beg for her life.
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blink writes;
Prosecutors love bad witnesses in this phase for the defense and normally do not work to tip them off in advance. No idea why martinez did not just wait until she was on the stand.
B
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Womack took the fifth when JM questioned her last Thursday. Personal Counsel was then appointed for Womack. As of Friday, she was waiting til Monday for counsel advice on whether or not to take the fifth today ( if she had gone ahead). But she jumped the gun on that and on Sunday, defense said she was not going to testify because of threats. She also wrote an email to NBC saying that she was conflicted. What a mess.
I think Martinez was wise to cut to the chase, ferret out what her position would be vis a vis drugs and money for sale of pics, and avoid a scenario of objections from defense and her taking the fifth when on the stand, which would have caused a whole other dynamic.
Sincerely hope Judge Stevens has crossed I’s and dotted T’s.
What does it take to be accused of contempt of court? I recall that term being thrown around much more often in the pinellas case.
Ragdoll says:
May 19, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Please humour me for PamSpaz aka Spaz….
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Thank you Ragdoll, Love it. Took me back. And the first entry in my book I got at my last birthday “sex after fifty” that has nothing but empty pages lol will be “all the boys thinks shes a spaz”. Yes yes yes I remember this song.
Character witness for Jodi Arias pulls out, citing threats and inner turmoil
The potential witness, Patricia Womack, is a childhood friend of Arias who planned to testify about Arias’ abusive childhood. Besides the threats, she said that her heart went out to the family of Travis Alexander, whom Arias was convicted of killing.
“I couldn’t do it,” she told NBC News in an email. “I feel there is so much good in Jodi to be saved but then also someone’s dear life was taken.”
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Wow, well I had a feeling on Friday that her school friend did not want to testify. I think her other issues are just being used to get out of it. Could be wrong though…But remember they have not been in contact for some years now. A true friend would still stand up for her. Given the years that have gone by I would say the friendship faded and she did not feel the need to subject herself to testifying on her behalf. I am sure she did not realise what she was initially agreeing to. And then no Mr. Brewer either. Something is definately up. Today was quite a day. The only person to mitigate her is her and I do not think she can do it. No I do not blame the defense. They are doing their job and they do not have anything to work with. Tomorrow will be real interesting. Hanging her hat on her art, which will not save her. For the life of me I do not understand the age thing. It is not like she was 16. But like Nurmi said in his opening the can prove her age because her license was admitted into evidence. That seems the only thing they can prove is her age. Ugggg gotta go spaz out now.
So the defense is attempting to:
• get another day of pay at the state’s expense?
• distance the verdict from the tears of the Alexander family?
• create the illusion of a good defense for Arias while withdrawing from the case?
• other?
Just thought of a couple more.
So the defense is attempting to:
• buy time for Arias to rehearse her allocution speech?
• hold onto hope that someone will come forward with mitigating factors?
Oh- my link fell off
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/20/18376796-character-witness-for-jodi-arias-pulls-out-citing-threats-and-inner-turmoil?lite
An interesting day.
I suspect the real issue is that JA has a plan with which her attorneys disagree strongly.
Surely, JA has a friend or two who would love to testify on national television. Why did she pick just these two? My guess is she knew these two would tow the line.
I suspect her lawyers are trying to head for the hills, because they know what she is going to say tomorrow, and do not want to be accused of suborning perjury.
If the defense can prove that their mitigation witness was intimidated, she may well get another penalty trial (but not a complete mistrial). In that case, she would get a jury that hadn’t had to sit through 18 days of her testimony and might be less likely to give the DP.
The penalty phase has been such a disaster, that it seems JA is in command, and her lawyers are being dragged along.
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
B
We know that Patricia pulled of testifying on Jodi’s behalf today, due to allegedly, getting death threats and also according to the prosecution, for having a checkered past with drug use, and selling jodi arias photos to nancy grace. Does anyone one know why Darryl was not testifying? Did he pull out or did the defense just decide not to call anyone to try to stack their chances for an appeal? According to this interview today, it sounds as I’d Darryl wanted to testify. http://www.azcentral.com/12news/articles/20130520jodi-arias-darryl-brewer-interview.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
He seems like a sincere guy, but who moves in with a teenager, high school drop out?
HuffPo says it was death threats, plus inner turmoil. (bout time they used cool language).
Womack didn’t want to testify and neither did Brewer. That was such a shock to JA, she wouldn’t be able to perform today,imho.
Could they allow cell mates, guards, or jail volunteers to speak on her behalf? She’s been there a few years and they would at least be contemporary.
Naturally, I’m being facetious. It is indeed sad that she has no friends or family to speak about her good qualities.
El, I’m always dropping citations. Here’s another!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/jodi-arias-death-threats_n_3307163.html
GeorgiaDad says:
May 20, 2013 at 7:30 pm
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Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
B
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Thank you GeorgiaDad. Makes sense.
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Duchess posts: http://www.azcentral.com/12news/articles/20130520jodi-arias-darryl-brewer-interview.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Interesting. He’s not entirely telling the truth (if her parents and other friends knew she needed help then Darryl, having lived with her for years, must have also known she needed help) but I believe Darryl really did cherish Jodi.
Still, she didn’t just suddenly change because of The Secret and Mormonism. Nuh uh. She saw Travis as her ticket to a better life and got really angry when he said ‘no!’.
Well Mr. Brewer was there ready to go. So it is just the defense decision not to call him. Here is an interview with him about what he wanted the jury to know. Should not say this but he probably has some issues too, to date a woman nearly half his age. But then he was an older man with an willing eager younger woman. Noticed in the interview that he claims to have left Jodi, when it was presented that she left him for Travis. Could be my memory again, but has she claimed to be the one to do the breaking up when it was the other way around, not just this relationship. In other words would she ever admit that anyone broke up with HER.
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/articles/20130520jodi-arias-darryl-brewer-interview.html
I am just catching up with the fiasco of a day at court, but I heard an interesting take as to why no defense testimonies today or any day. If Mommy, Darryl or Patricia did attest to the goodness of JA on the stand, and why her life should be spared, then JM could SHOW the interview tape JA did after the verdict. He would point out where she wanted to be put to death, rather than spend the rest of her life in prison. I think that is why the big smoke screen today in court. And talk about blaming JM for everything? Just like their client who blames everyone else for her woes, so does the defense. Can something be done about the stall tactics? This trial has to end now!
Speaking to her defense team reluctance, her defense team knows she is guilty and are helpless to help her.
They are trying to stop her from polishing her Pogo The Clown Hat series on the stand tomorrow.
Jodi is a ruiner.
@ Amy’s sister
I agree with you, that just based on the video interview of Darryl, I do believe that he did treasure Jodi. You do not live with someone for 4 years and not feel some kind of genuine connection. However, I do feel that he does have some issues himself, as he moved in with Jodi as a teenager. I find that extremely odd. I do believe that he may be close to 20 years her senior.? Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t she around 15 when she dropped out of schol? I am not quite sure when this relationship started. Dysfunctional people are attracted to dysfunctional people. Sometimes that is their bond. Anyways, yes, he did seem to have deep affections for her.
@ pamspaz (hope this is your right handle)
I do not believe for a minute that Jodi left him. Every relationship she has had, she always seems to twist it, that she was the one that broke things off including her testimony concerning Travis. My thought is that Darryl left Jodi…..remember she got the house and she was foreclosed on. He was the one that physically left.
Jodi has a narcisstic ego. Everything revolves around her. She makes the decisions about herself, whether imaginary or not reality, and this is why she pontificates as she does. Thus the post verdict interview. She is always in charge.
Jodi and Travis dated for 5 months. Just five months. He broke up with her to pursue other women in the hopes of getting married. Jodi was not his choice for a sould mate, this the ragedul killing. Jodi claims that that it was a. 2way street with her and Travis post break up. I disagree. I think she totally stalked him…….I do not believe that they had sex on June 4th, I think she snuck into the house and lay in wait. He wanted her out of his life, and she can not, and will not, to this day accept that rejection. Thus we have makebelieve stories from her what their relationship post break up was. Jodi views the killing of Travis in the 3rd person. She totally feels she was justified with her makebelieve world.
I just don’t see how Martinez can be accused of intimidating Womack simply because he asked her about drugs and the sale of photos. Not only did she refuse to answer him , she was given legal counsel to advise her on taking the fifth. So where is the intimidation factor?
What is the relevance to her association with the defendant?
B
I have another question- where was Jodi’s car on the 4th? No one mentions the location of her car during the window of the murder. Was it parked in the garage? Did she park it 2 blocks down the street, or did she just blatantly park it the driveway? No witnesses to the car? If hidden, that is a sure link to premeditation, along with all the other evidence. Her car should have been the from 4:00am till at least 5:45p the next day? No one saw the car? How many roommates did Travis have? Odd that there was no mention. Premeditation tells me she parked away from the house, concealing the car. She was definitely an uninvited guest that morning, and struck him when the moment presented itself. Jodi would have you believe that he participated in this post break up sexual affair, but IMO I believe not. I believe what Juan Martinez said in closing, in that Travis was trying to get away from her, even in death. He literally could not get away from her, no matter how he tried. He was not a willing participant as Jodi would makebelieve like you to believe.
whodunnit says:
May 20, 2013 at 10:05 pm
I just don’t see how Martinez can be accused of intimidating Womack simply because he asked her about drugs and the sale of photos. Not only did she refuse to answer him , she was given legal counsel to advise her on taking the fifth. So where is the intimidation factor?
What is the relevance to her association with the defendant?
B
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Isn’t that what she was to have testified to? Her past experience with the defendant? I’m lost-lol.
I doubt that she was going to discuss drug use that included the defendant, or income tax evasion of same. And if that was Martinez intention, why show that hand in the penalty phase?
B
I agree B, Patti girl would not have brought it up- but JM would to contradict her delightful description of their past relationship.
I thinks Ms JA may shock us all and not make a statement at all- won’t that be the ultimate bummer!
We agree. Would not surprise me at all.
B
It seems as if Arias won’t speak tomorrow… and if she does she may project insanity. And if she doesn’t speak she may also appear insane.
blink writes
What is the relevance to her association with the defendant?
B
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- since a penalty phase witness is supposed to be speaking to the qualities of Arias that justify keeping Arias alive, it is relevent to look at the lives that those witnesses live in order to understand their perspective. The perspective of someone who has abused drugs or failed to report income would not neccessarilly be the same as one who was law abiding. Just my guess!
Does anyone have the video of Womack on the stand? (the bird flipping and laughing?)
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/161556617326276
I think the defense is trying to extricate themselves from the ever-increasing nightmare they find themselves in. They’ve asked to be dismissed several times. It hardly seems like a ploy.
There are no excuses for Jodi Arias’ crimes. BPD is no joke. It isn’t pretend, either. It isn’t an excuse. I am intimately familiar with BPD, having dealt with it in my own family. Borderlines are very difficult to diagnose, and more difficult to treat. Borderlines most often result out of repeated early trauma, and the symptoms look like bi-polar and PTSD. Many borderlines are misdiagnosed as unipolar (depressed) or bi-polar. Casey Anthony is borderline. Borderline Personality Disorder and narcissistic wound often overlap, and often result out of the same sorts of trauma. The borderlines I have known were nice looking young women who lived very troubled lives. Their most common victims are their children.
I don’t think that Jodi Arias is faking anything. There are many lies, which have to do with the manipulation. I think she has several overlapping issues. and that it is unfortunate that Travis Alexander got involved with her, and did not understand the danger of dealing with such a person, particularly when that person became desperate. Borderlines often perceive rejection as abuse…they often have abandonment issues that involve either physical or emotional abandonment. Oftentimes the abuses or traumas that induced Borderline Personality Disorder or Narcissistic Personality Disorder include both abandonment and physical/sexual/psychological abuse. Sometimes when people with such compromised mental states are rejected, they cannot distinguish between abuse and rejection, because to the borderline it feels the same…hence, someone who doesn’t want to continue a relationship and/or is withholding is perceived by the borderline as “being abusive”. Dangerous people, best to keep one’s distance from.
has anyone ever tried to figure out exactly how many times travis and Arias were actually physically together after the initial five month ” official dating period? Did she ever reference it by saying anything like, we saw each other every day, week etc? She put a lot of emphasis on saying that he kept the relationship secret. Is that her way of hiding the fact that they actually had much less contact than she has put forth? I know, it is way to late in the game to go into this, I am spinning wheels at this point waiting for tomorrow!