Jodi Arias Trial Verdict IS IN: GUILTY Of MURDER In The Slaying Of Travis Alexander
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Phoenix, AZ- In the 4 month long trial of Jodi Ann Arias for the murder of her brief boyfriend Travis Victor Alexander, the jury deliberating since last Friday has arrived at a verdict in her case. Arias was found guilty of the pre-meditated murder of Travis Alexander on June 4th, 2008.
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Forgot to mention that one can also be killed by another Death Row inmate:
Here’s a creative example (found at the same AZ website–above)
Date of Birth April 29, 1958
Executed May 5, 1999
Defendant: White/Anglo
Victim: White/Anglo
Last Meal
Green Chili Burros – burritos with barbecued steak, french fries and ketchup, vanilla ice cream, cream soda, cigarette.
On March 4, 1982, Vickers was an inmate on death row at the Arizona State in Florence as a result of killing Frank Ponciano. At around 6:30 p.m., Vickers was out of his cell, allegedly doing clean-up chores. Instead, he went to the cell of Buster Holsinger, another death row inmate. Vickers was upset over an earlier remark Holsinger had made about Vickers’ niece. Vickers doused Holsinger and his cell with some Vitalis he had been saving and then threw burning toilet paper on Holsinger, setting him ablaze. Holsinger died as a result of tracheobronchial burns suffered in the resulting flash fire.
love it
can’t do interviews.
Y’all know those lies JA tells, they just fall out of her mouth like she needs immodium.
The ‘pedophile picture’ she says she took, the showing up at his memorial and socializing, the ninjas, she’s like a 9 year old rebellious child.
She had to have had some pretty horrid shite on her hard drive if she destroyed it. Right? Why have we not heard more about her history online?
(all of us crime/trial watchers need a standard form that is presented upon our death that explains our own computer history…or a really good friend that will wipe our hard drives upon death, lol)
I’m still in shock at the way she threw everyone under her crazy bus in that post verdict interview.
She was forced to draw the curtain on Travis’ secret life?, his siblings can remember him the way they want, her childhood, her lawyers, Juan M, etc…etc…
(in Ms Blinks words, “AND THEN….” LOL)
I still am keeping my money on her visit to the psych ward was because she threw a mega hissy fit in the courthouse that morning.
Tomorrow is a good day, right??
Having listened to two podcasts I wonder if you would address why you think you got it wrong regarding the verdict. It seems to me that many analysts underestimated the impact the defendant’s history and testimony would have on the jury.
Could you also briefly address the prosecutorial misconduct that you believe Juan Martinez engaged in (or direct me to where I can learn of those) and whether you think that, or other matters, will effect the appeal?
Thanks.
Good question Dennis, although what you are asking me can be found in my coverage of the case and in my bolded comments discussing same.
I believe my concerns this jury would hang, and I was glad to be wrong, btw, were due mostly because historically juries and high profile cases have been a serious problem. The questions the jury asked led me to believe this was a skilled jury, subject to the sort of “CSI” effect we saw with the Anthony jury.
Had Anthony been put on the stand, I submit her verdict would have been similar to Arias.
I did not accuse Martinez of prosecutorial misconduct, the defense did, several times, and that is up to a judge to find. I do think that Mr. Martinez cut some serious corners with the forensic evidence in the case, although I understand why. I also think had he been up against a serious defense team he would have had his lunch eaten as we say in Jersey, lol.
I am not sure what history you are referring to as far as the impact on the jury, but for me, I think the largest impact on the jury was the sheer brutality and overkill to Travis. That kind of violence is not something you see everyday for lack of a better descriptor and regardless of how it ends up that way, I do not believe any reasonable person wants to see someone capable of that in a position to be in society again.
If I had to pick one thing we analysts underestimated it was the effect that the ability for jurors to ask questions during the trial has on the outcome. At close second would be the wide berth Judge Stephens allowed Martinez. I have had more than one conversation with a criminal judge on that issue and both said while the signing of autographs on the front steps may not be willfull – in terms of prosecutorial misconduct, they would have sanctioned him post trial.
B
Goooooood morning rug rats and ankle biters.
A hug and a cup of coffee…
-snipped (re: DSM V) Very good piece…..
“Simply naming a mental illness does not necessarily point the way to effective treatment. This is why patients often qualify for more than one diagnosis, and why many have poor responses to medications”.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/opinion/sunday/why-the-fuss-over-the-dsm-5.html?_r=1&
I found the link posted on the Social Work Today FB Page. Wish it hit more on ‘personality disorders’.
@ Christy says:
May 14, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Today will be veddy veddy interesting. It sounds like JA may have contradicted her hasty interview and is begging for the DP to be removed from the option block. This may lend some insight as to the hush hush session in the CLOSED court room.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/jodi-arias-request-for-death-penalty-dismissed-judge-refuses/
Blink, I am beyond thrilled to see your recommendation of “The Gift Of Fear”. I’ve drilled the premise into my kids’ heads and gifted it at every baby shower I’ve been to. What’s frustrating is that most people, including the schools, still recite the “danger stranger” mantra which is clearly incorrect and ineffective. ie Castro in Cleveland knew his victims. Sarah Majoras = same. It is apparent that EVERYONE who encountered Arias had their spidey senses go nuts, but unfortunately, Travis didn’t have the knowledge he so desperately needed…
Ragdoll says:
May 15, 2013 at 9:18 am
@ Christy says:
May 14, 2013 at 10:14 pm
Today will be veddy veddy interesting. It sounds like JA may have contradicted her hasty interview and is begging for the DP to be removed from the option block. This may lend some insight as to the hush hush session in the CLOSED court room.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/jodi-arias-request-for-death-penalty-dismissed-judge-refuses
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Christy and Ragdoll, good morning. Excellent posts! Thanks for the article on the DSM-V, Ragdoll. I thought the framers were going to come to blows over the revisions.
Today will be very interesting unless, of course, JA has one of her show stopping migraines. I would bet the wrist/waist and ankle chains during transport have been quite an adjustment for her. In addition, being in a single cell with a deputy outside the door 24/7 would be difficult for anyone, but I think it is especially hard on someone who thrives on attention. Sooner or later, the circus will grind to an end and move to the next town, and she will truly be alone with herself.
Will Travis’s family be allowed to make statements during the aggravation phase today? I hope so.
People who have the mental defects like Jodi often behave as children even though they have skills that make it possible to do damage to adults in many ways.
I have dealt with two such people in my lifetime. They do not fear consequences of their acts because they only live in the moment. They have no clue as to why their behavior is distasteful to adults and why they do not have but one or two friends at a time.
The friends at a time clue is something that all young adults need to use as a red flag regarding those they come into contact with.
I wonder if jury questions actually help the prosecution by eliminating some doubt. Allowing jurors the ability to fill in missing details may eliminate lingering questions that may end up being interpreted as reasonable doubt.
Also highly recommend The Gift of Fear
O/T, less than 10 minutes for a Texas jury to find a man guilty of capital murder of his two children. Swift justice, for sure.
http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/Texas-man-convicted-in-drowning-deaths-of-2-sons-4517631.php?cmpid=hpfsln
ahhh we have another Pam. Should I change my name. Pammy is also taken.
May I suggest? Pamspa
B
Cruelty “Proven”. Tomorrow court at 10:30am pdt/1:30pm/edt
This woman is on new meds. No scribbling and no whispering to her atty and her eyes are half closed.
Pod in backyard trumps human disguise. She is going to be in a cell 23 hours a day.
B
Blink wrote:
“I am not sure what history you are referring to as far as the impact on the jury, but for me, I think the largest impact on the jury was the sheer brutality and overkill to Travis.”
Her behavior following the killing, of course. The phone call to a dead Travis, her police interviews, TV interviews, etc.
What a fantastic jury.
Though, my son thinks I am sick and that does trouble me.
I haven’t replayed the court testimony from today yet, but got home in time to see the aggravation verdict announced. Jodi appeared to me to be druggedly detached during the verdict. Or heavily scolded. Guess that detachment is to be expected when you’re being persecuted huh? It’s all so dang sad and hard for all involved.
Thx to Ms. B and all for the ongoing recs for The Gift of Fear. An area B&N had a copy that I picked up today, woohoo!!!! Will read for myself ASAP and pass on to the traveling nephew dearest. BOC commenters are the bestest and wisest, shepherded by Ms. Blink!
Imo the No. 1 Defense error was putting Arias on the stand at all.
And, 18 days inured them to her, made her seem less than human.
And Samuels &ALaV (however likeable the latter) were imo the world’s
worst D expert choices bar none. I do not think PreMed 1 was due to horrific wounds–
that goes more to heat of passion (or bad PCP was in her weed). I think
it was due to complete absence of a forensic defense & no
explanation for items like gas cans. And those horrific
detective interview tapes. Frankly her lies are so ridiculous, they don’t advance, standing alone,
a premed theory for me.
imo the main benefit of juror Qs is cueing each other as to thinking of each other &
validation of as yet unformulated & uncommited to points of view.
The main danger is way out flakes will inadvertantly show their stripes.
@GraceintheHills. Opinion on today’s meds?
@ GraceintheHills says:
May 15, 2013 at 11:30 am
Bless your heart, friendy!
DSM V comes out in the fall (IIRC) and not exactly getting rave reviews.
Regarding JA’s ‘state’……I think she falls under a few diagnostics, where disorders and depression is concerned. ATG has brought this up on a few of his posts….and imho, he’s right! There won’t be a bullseye diagnosis. This is a cluster of disorders, which I believe, morphed from severe depression as a child. Her brain has rewired itself, imo , so she could survive. I believe it all comes down to JA’s surviving in a world that intimidates and frightens her. This might lend to her ‘I did nothing wrong’ mentality, because it was about her endurance and continuance. It’s normal, in her mind, which, has been traumatized and compromised due to any mental anguish she felt as a child, pre teen and thereon. Again, my observations only. Can’t substantiate. I’m self educating myself on this complex topic, often. I have learned the, itself, brain does not know the difference between fantasy and reality, interestingly enough. Self talk, criticism and how we perceive ourselves against our family, peers, colleagues, etc, are just a few profound effects (whether negative or positive self assessment) on brain development or degeneration. (All this being said with JA’s state of being, only).
She’s always talked about suicide. She’s been writing in journals since she was a young teen. What a difficult time for any teen to go through, when the frontal lobe goes through another growth spurt, which can spike depression, anger or lethargic like symptoms. Sleep is crucial during this period of time, in their lives. Can we see how complicated this can become? The possibilities seem limitless.
Looking back, when Jodi was writing about suicide, she was trying to deal with the enigma inside her. I remember that so well, in my teens. I had NO CLUE what was going on, except I thought it was how I was made, it was natural and nothing could be done about it. I am who I am….mentality. She was severely depressed and in the teen years, if it’s not caught…..the brain compensates, overloads, overstimulates, understimulates, neurons die, neurotransmitters reroute, etc. Growth has become abnormal. This is why children and pre teen who exhibit any kind of clinical emotional problem, NEED TREATMENT, SUPPORT AND COUNSELING!!! Jodi was writing about these feelings when no one was reading her journal. As she grew older, the suicide threats became a weapon to manipulate. Unfortunately, you can NEVER brush these threats off. What if? Whoever Jodi was or could have been….is long gone.
I’ve done so much soul searching regarding this case. My heart aches over and over for Travis’ family….and for Travis…..his potential and life time dreams drained out of him with his own blood. I feel like I know him and….I miss him. How strange is that?
I have to concede, as a Christian, I do have compassion for Jodi. What she did was heinous. It was cruel. It was selfish and monstrous. For someone to go that far because of their pain, their mental state and a lack of understanding on their own existence and purpose…..breaks my heart. As one of her ex’s put it, she was always looking for the easy way out. OR….was she looking for someone to take care of her; some sense of security b/c of her instability? She most certainly lacked self confidence, because she undermined her own gifts (photography) and potential to live an honest, successful life. She must have doubted the love of her parents. Children need praise, encouragement, protection ,nurture….STRUCTURE.
Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. ~Ephesians 6:4
If we don’t raise our children, the world will
Posted with respect, peace and AJMHO.
@ Rose says:
May 15, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Didn’t they have to put her on the stand because of the ‘self defense’ angle?
Lord knows, it wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong.
i think this jury is going to sentence her to death. i will be shocked if they don’t at this point.
on a side note, my satellites must not be working properly because I was just outside getting something out of my car when i noticed what i thought to be a suspicious person loitering on the corner looking into cars. I went back inside and looked discreetly from a window and the person continued to walk back and forth around the corner. I also didn’t recognize the person. I called my cop husband who told me to call the cops and report it and they would drive by and check it out. turns out to be the hippy lady on the corner who was standing outside with a shovel gardening at 9:30 pm….wooops!
I was drawn to this case when I was channel surfing and it was Arias second of third day on the stand. I found this site shortly after that. As it unfolded I was drawn to the aspect of domestic violence. I had experienced this first hand as a young adult life ( 18-19). Ashamed of this, it had been my secret, until I shared on this site, in an effort to let the posters understand why my perspective on what Arias and her witnesses were saying was baseless. Because of the intelligence of the posters on this site, I then found my self joining in ,absolutely dedicated (!) to figuring out the details of the crime, the legal strategies, and understanding the justice system as it pertains to this case. Coming from an initially very personal interest, I was able to find objectivity- again, because of the things that everyone on this site shared.
I know that this will go on, that the decisions made in the next couple of days will have repercussions that will continue to reverberate.. and yet, I feel closure.
I realize now that many of the fevered posts I submitted had to do with a fear that the jury was not seeing what I was seeing. I think that this feeling of ” not being heard” was the most threatening of all emotions that this trial has brought forth. And I realize that being able to post on this site fullfilled that need.I said it before, but I wanna say again THANK YOU THANK YOU THNK YOU for creating this forum.
I am thinking that this sense of closure I feel has to do with the fact that the jury reflected my own conviction that Arias had truly committed the crime in a way that disregarded everything that is right.
Whatever happens to her now, will , for me, be an illustration of the justice system. It doesn’t feel so personal anymore.
But the personal feelings of gratitude I have for every poster, and for you, Blink, for sharing this journey will stay with me.
See you on the next one!!
May I suggest? Pamspa
B
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Of course you can, although I think I may add a z in case you suggested this from an earlier comment on one of my posts lol.
Agree completely that Jodi looked drugged. Also looked to me like JW is relieved, maybe because this is almost over. So that begs a question, since an appeal is automatic if she gets death, does she get new attorneys or will JW and Nurmi have to continue on?
LOL LOL on the Spaz. You win the poster redo of the week.
Yes, she will have new appellate attorneys.
B
How I now respect Linda Kenney Baden! Some X$&X named Vinnie on hln at 10:10 pm asked all kinds of expert “panelists” for a one word description of Arias’ verdict reaction. got all kinds of stuff like “non plused” which he didn’t comprehend Word Girl. I wanted to throw rotten tomatoes at all with “medicated” etched on. Then LKB nailed that word.
I’m trying to understand something. Did the defense ask for the DP to be removed on Jodi’s behalf, or without her approval? Why didn’t they call any witnesses today? Did they throw in the towel because they were instructed to?
All Jodi has to do is tell the Alexanders she is sorry for the killing and all the things she said about Travis
Then do the same for her family about that wooden spoon and all of that stuff
I hope she can woman up tomorrow and do it
She is just a ugly person IMO
But the media lawyers are saying she should say nothing at all
Because of appeals
So there you go
whodunnit says:
May 15, 2013 at 10:02 pm
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I think we may be twins, except your post was written better than what I could have done. (and I found this site during the c word trial)
I am so invested now that I must see it through till the end.
OT…Feel free not to post this, just thought I would pass the info along.
This is happening about 1/4 mile from where I live. Apparently the property they are searching belongs to a member of the Powell family.
“Investigators with cadaver dogs have been searching a Marion County property for the remains of Susan Powell, who was last seen in Utah in December 2009.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/22265153/investigators-searching-marion-county-property-for-susan-powells-remains
I could not vote for the DP not even for Jodi So I am glad it is up to someone else
Tonight
Rose says:
May 15, 2013 at 10:13 pm
How I now respect Linda Kenney Baden! Some X$&X named Vinnie on hln at 10:10 pm asked all kinds of expert “panelists” for a one word description of Arias’ verdict reaction. got all kinds of stuff like “non plused” which he didn’t comprehend Word Girl. I wanted to throw rotten tomatoes at all with “medicated” etched on. Then LKB nailed that word.
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Rose, I so agree. Linda Kenney Baden is a sharp as a tack, proud Jersey girl. She has been spot on in her commentary on this case.
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Rose says:
May 15, 2013 at 8:56 pm
@GraceintheHills. Opinion on today’s meds?
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Rose, in my experience, inmates who indicate that they may have a difficult time at trial or appear anxious may be prescribed low dose benzodiazepines/sedatives (e.g., Ativan, Klonopin, Valium, Xanax, etc.) each morning before trial. The tell tale signs for me are glazed-over eyes and drowsiness. I do suspect there was a dose increase over the past couple of days. I understand that she is also prescribed medication for migraines, which can also cause her to appear tired.
CBSNews
May 15, 2013
Now that a jury has ruled that convicted killer Jodi Arias is eligible for the death penalty, the case will move into a penalty phase — the final portion of the trial that launched in early January.
Wednesday, the jury ruled that the 32-year-old Arias, convicted last week in the 2008 stabbing death of her lover Travis Alexander, committed the crime in an especially cruel or heinous manner. The ruling on the “aggravating factor” qualified the former waitress to receive the death penalty.
During the penalty phase, the defense is expected to call witnesses that will likely include Arias’ family in an attempt to save her life.
The defense may also spotlight Arias’ lack of critminal history and alleged abuse and mental health issues as “mitigating factors” that could outweigh the aggravating factor of cruelty, Lisa Wayne, a Colorado criminal defense attorney and immediate past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
Arias will be allowed to speak to the jury, and Alexander’s family could make victim impact statements, the Arizona Republic reported.
This portion of the case could go on for several weeks, and additional witnesses could be called by both sides. If jurors don’t reach a unanimous agreement on the death penalty, the judge sentences Arias to either the rest of her life in prison or life in prison with the possibility of release after 25 years.
The Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Sherry Stevens told the jury to return at 10 a.m. Thursday to begin hearing the death penalty phase of the trial, reports the paper.
Good morning Blink & Blinksters
I am for life and has always been. I am a peaceful warrior so if it was for me JA would get natural life in jail. I would give her the chance to think, to change and to repent profondely what she has done to Travis and i would give her the chance to become a better person and so a better soul.
The big issue here in this case is that beside the overkill ms.Arias has never in the past years showed some kind of remorse. Nor in an Interview for the media, nor at the police station , nor in jail ,nor at trial.
In my opinion the strategy of her defense and her lack of remorse brought her directly in the position she is now facing before this Jury that she could not fool , and i cannot see how at this point she could in anyway avoid the DP.
She definitely needs to show remorse for the over kill. This really is sad for both of these families.
@ Ragdoll,
May 15, 2013 at 9:47 pm
I think your post was very spot on. Can you imagine allowing your 15 year old daughter to just leave home and move in with her boyfriend? In my wildest dreams I can not. Can you imagine letting your daughter hear that she is found guilty of Murder 1 and not be in that courtroom with her like her father’s absence? I can not. It looks to me like her family said “this girl is trouble” good riddance at 15. She was a problem for the family and they decided to just let society take care of her. She needed help at 15, and should have had her little azz taken to a professional then. She needed the love of her parents at 15 not freedom to do what she wanted. Would this have changed anything? Maybe, maybe not but that was what should have been done. I am not giving Jodi Arias any passes on what she did but I certainly can give no passes to her parents.
The “Penalty Phase” required by the Supreme Court when it re-legalized capital punishment has always bothered me for a number of reasons.
1) A defendant claims innocence in a trial, but then is expected to take the stand and confess and ask for leniency, but then file appeals claiming innocence. Obvious, innocence isn’t an issue in this case, but our system forces the wrongly-convicted to confess in order to possibly avoid the DP.
2) Victim impact statements produce harsher punishments for those whose victims have more eloquent family members than those who don’t. Murder is a crime against all the people.
3) Criminals with more eloquent family members may receive lesser punishments.
4) Defendants who pursue an active defense are at a disadvantage. In this case, JA has told her story on the stand in the main trial. If she takes the stand to plead for her life, she will have to tell a completely different version of events which will be extremely difficult to pull off, especially after the jury question of “how do we know you’re not lying now”. If JA had exercised her right to remain silent, she could now go on the stand and tell a sanitized version of events tailored to fit the evidence JM introduced, and probably convince a few jurors to save her life.
The smart thing for JA at this point would be not to testify (even if she told the complete truth at this point, I don’t know who would believe her). I suspect, however, that she will demand to testify again. Another few weeks of JA on the stand would be cruel and unusual punishment for the jurors.
I have to agree with this. For me however, it would not matter what anyone said at this point- I would be voting for the death penalty without hesitation.
B
Ragdoll says:
May 15, 2013 at 9:47 pm
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Bless you Ragdoll, your heart is kind.
Blink says:
“I have to agree with this. For me however, it would not matter what anyone said at this point- I would be voting for the death penalty without hesitation.”
I totally agree with you Blink. The viciousness of the attack, coupled with her utter lack of remorse convinced me that there is no redeeming this monster. She is just plain evil. No other word can describe her.
After hearing Dr. Horne’s testimony yesterday, there can be no doubt that she deserves the death penalty. When Dr. Horne described the divets in Travis’s skull, from the knife stabs, my heart broke. I am the most tender-hearted person in the world 99.9% of the time, but this case brings out the .1% that just wants her to die.
Oh, by the way, Jodi has now decided that she doesn’t “really” want the death penalty. Now she wants LWOP.(per People magazine). I guess reality has finally hit her – she could really be sentenced to death. Too bad she didn’t think of that before her evilness came out.
Poor Travis. I wish I had met him. He sounds like he would have been a great friend.
Ragdoll
Your post about Jodi and her early years is probably what was going on. This points out to me a strong need for pushing fathers and grandfathers to spend more time guiding daughters in growing up. Mothers are needed for the early nurturing, but fathers are needed for the strength and guidance to build good values.
Every one of us are the product of genetics of our family. Sometimes genes that are needed are not activated or a gene that isn’t needed is activated. This produces an imbalance that may or may not create problems. This cannot be proven at this point in time. However, science is gradually providing the tools that may make it possible to identify the truth of genetics.
The most important thing that mothers and fathers can do for their children is teach them that they are loved. That if they do something wrong, the deed is the problem and not the loss of love. If this is done beginning at an early age, the later teenage years will not create the stress that many experience.
As I have stated previously, children do not arrive with owner’s manuals. Young mothers and fathers are suddenly faced with a new task for which they have little experience. This is where a loving family can and does make a big difference.
@ first-time says:
May 16, 2013 at 10:04 am
God bless you right back, dear friendy! I appreciate your kindness and friendship. Big Canadian bear hug to you ((((first time)))) xo
PS…your comment has brought much needed joy. Thank you <3
@ Ode says:
May 16, 2013 at 8:27 am
Good morning, sunshine friendy!
Thank you for responding to my comment. I appreciate it, muchly.
I didn’t take it down to the bone like you…and you are so right. Everything you mentioned is definitely a sign that JA had no structure, boundaries or consequences. This is one of the big reasons our kids act out. You brought up some key details which reveal, imo, that Jodi pretty much came and went. I get the ‘pick your battles’. I’m certain that’s for a parents’ sanity
But gosh darn, our kids need to know authority and the consequences of disobedience and disrespect. I was told that if they’re angry at you and hate you…you’re doing your job. We need to prepare them for the real world, or they’ll never get it. They’ll have people they have to answer to, like it or not. Now I see why Jodi’s mission was to get her way and what she wanted, regardless. She didn’t learn no….and here are the consequence for your bad choices. I feel compassion for Jodi’s parents. I’m sure they walked on eggshells with their daughter and didn’t want to wake the sleeping giant. I’m sure they feel a deep sense of guilt and failure. We all need to look at this and learn from it, imho. Jodi Arias is the example of no rules, not structure, no discipline and no respect. They don’t comes into this world with those qualities. We, their parents, teach them. Sometimes, they don’t get it until they go out into the real world….but they will. It will be super crystal clear when they become parents themselves, and understand why we weren’t their friends.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Ode. I agree, also, that Jodi is an adult and needs to be accountable. In JA’s case, the damage is done. Her sense of right/wrong vs. ours are very different. She truly believes she did nothing wrong, yet lied her way through the trial, to prevent accountability…and the consequences. How sad it all came to this. 2 lives lost, imho.
Big big hugs Ode. I just adore you to pieces. xo
I don’t know about y’all, but I got my tiss-yoo’s ready. I suspect this is going to be a good cry for many.
I have to hand it to Mr. Martinez regarding the 2 minutes of silence. That, in itself, will be the defining moment of this trial, imho. Travis was in the most vulnerable state…..naked, dying and no doubt, JA’s blathering on, in his ear, about how he ruined her life, with every jolting stab she intentionally delivered.
I thought about labour pains and how it felt like one big contraction. I won’t be crying over a paper cut, again.
Prepare for code verklemption, friendies….and mouth breathing. I suspect tremendous clearing of the nasal cavities will deter nose breathing. Compound allergies, to boot. Aye yiiii yiiiiii.
Faith, Hope, and Love. Above all these, LOVE~~~
((((((BOC)))))))
@ A Texas Grandfather says:
May 16, 2013 at 11:50 am
This is why you are so dear to me. Have you ever watched the movie ‘Courageous’? Regardless of your beliefs, it’s a must for all parents.
ATG, I know when I watch this movie, I will think of you, because you GET IT. I pray your children appreciate and honour you. They must be outstanding citizens if they are a 10th of their father; salt of the earth and wisdom for the ages.
You hit the nail on the head about ‘fathers’ and ‘grandfathers’. I respect the need for fathers/husband to lead their family and keep them accountable. It’s how God intended it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630036/
God bless you, ATG. Thank you for being you. I hope you don’t mind I’ve spirutally adopted you as my grandfather/mentor of life. xo xo xo
I agree with pretty much everything that has been posted with regards to JA’s early life and lack of structure/discipline. However, there are some people that receive all the love and discipline necessary to develop into a fine individual, but still turn out “wrong”. It is my personal belief that evil exists in this world, whether we call them sociopaths (or other terms), they are what they are. No amount of love or discipline can change this. In JA’s instance I believe she could have lived at home until she was 25 and then perhaps her family would have ended up as the victims. She is a ticking time bomb and I believe that no amount of intervention can save/alter an individual such as she.
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20130516/US-Boyfriend-Slaying/
JA’s attorneys try to quit….
JA’s lawyers asking to step down from case – judge denied the request.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/jodi-arias-attorneys-wanted-to-withdraw-denied_n_3286311.html
what do you make of this, Blink?