Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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15,021 Comments

  1. Rose says:

    @Blink. “…For what- fact based investigative journalism,…”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments

    As we have seen, anything goes in the judicial system of Mult County, which is likely why the County’s “investigative journalists” do NOT do fact-based investigations of mcso, the da’s office, nor the conduct & process of said agencies’ investigations, nor do publishers put out on same. I bet Pitkin was axed at the time he found out about SZ & wanted to write on the facts.

    More than that- they were told to blackball the second piece on DDS- both by MCSO and the DA and canned an interview with HouzeofBunch ( I have to believe that was genesis of Houze line about media scrutiny on DYs suit withdrawl.
    B

  2. MockingbirdSings says:

    Blink says –
    I’m going to be lucky if I don’t face charges in Kyrons case, LOL? For what- fact based investigative journalism, which, btw, was confirmed in open court and in depositions.
    ———————————————-

    I (we?) will all testify on your behalf! :)

    Thank You Kindly MBS!!! However I can assure y’all that won’t be necessary. Im pretty confident the facts of this investigation, and most especially the egregious errors therein will be known. Maybe sooner than we think.

    B

  3. NelMel says:

    I just slid across the floor on some spilt linguini.

    Finally, I realized who DY reminds me of — of who ALL the wimmins on Facebook and on OL threads, who rant one and all against TMH, remind me of.

    Betty Broderick. Remember this gal from 1989?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/betty-broderick-denied-parole-for-double-murder-socialites-son-warns-she-could-be-dangerous/

    I might have been one of 8 zillion people in this country at the time of her trial who had no sympathy for her “scorned woman” routine. She was hyperfocused on a husband leaving her for another woman, and nothing else in her life mattered but that (once it occurred).

    So the HC group with all their hissy fits remind me of her.

    DY might never be capable of a vengeance-fueled murder as was Broderick, but she needs to move on from the “I hate TMH because the tramp took my husband away from me and oh incidently maybe I can make other people hate her as much as I do Because Kyron.”

    Seriously, do these broads not know that the way they behave is exactly why LE would investigate THEM first if TMH merely stubs her toe?

  4. thatkewlgirl says:

    OT Another child got away (not the same as Malty’s in Portland, this one in Eugene)… Completely different descriptions, means at least 2 pedophiles are working in Oregon this week :( Eugene was on Wednesday, Nov 18, where the Portland one was on Friday, the 20th.

    http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/33748633-75/attempted-kidnapping-reported-near-cal-young-middle-school.html.csp#

  5. Rose says:

    from womensaid.org.uk
    the control freak – what to look for

    nelmel, to characterize some of her consistent public behaviors directed at KH & TH.
    “Making inappropriate facial expressions-rolled eyes, grimaces, deep sighs”
    I realized yesterday she reminded me of someone as to those type behaviors.
    And, suddenly I thought maybe KH’s NOT the control freak in partnerships 1&2.
    Anyway, Soldier recently posted they don’t speak. Maybe his therapist’s idea.

  6. Rose says:

    the “hands off” by Berstein & others goes beyond wanting to keep “sources” in courts & crime.
    because if you lose 1 source, you go find another–maybe better–source. You don’t need sound bites
    from Staton, Gates, or Rees. In fact any reporter must know those spokespeople need you the reporter
    to print their storylines to the public & to not deep six yr reelection. So something else goes wrt reporting in
    this town. And, I suspect there’s more to fear than social ostracism at the Temple or the DA/Sheriff saying
    we’ll give our public releases to yr competitor. Perhaps only the names have changed:
    http://www.powells.com/book/portland-confidential-sex-crime-corruption-in-the-rose-city-9781558687936

  7. Malty says:

    @ NelMel. Betty Broderick and her flakey stories attention hog ways were /are the worst Why can’t she be quiet
    She is where she should be IMO

    @MBS Trisha,RadioNews , Mrs Morris and the faithful soldier are just trying to keep hate going for their sites IMO
    So pick on/ blame Blink Until they find Terri In her green car New hair working on a farm in Nov in North CA
    By multiple names. No news about Terri is a hardship for them IMO. Keeping hate hot and new every day is hard work :)

    @TKG can you believe the news. SO everywhere

    @Rose. That looks like a real interesting book You always find good stuff

    Patricia is in the mix? I hear she has her hands full with asking people for money and then they took pictures of her closets or something, lol.
    B

  8. Malty says:

    Lately I have wondered if Kaine hasn’t already hired dogs to search his place himself Just seems like a home/property owner would if there were any questions

  9. T. Ruth says:

    I guess that Kelly has forgotten that Kaine stated publicly, on Dr. Phil, that LE could search his property any time. If he was not lying, then, and she is not lying when she states that Cadaver dogs have never searched his property, then it occurs to me, her frustrations should not be directed at Mr. Horman, but at LE who has not done so.

    Why is everyone acting so silly in this case?

    I don’t believe Ms. Ramirez is in a position to state what sort of searches were conducted at the Horman home and I don’t believe it has never been searched via canines trained to detect human decomposition. I also note DY is not saying any of this directly for a reason.
    B

  10. T. Ruth says:

    O/T, but speaking of our system:

    Man in prison for rape convictions cleared by DNA testing after 16 years

    A California man who spent 16 years behind bars for sexual assault convictions was cleared on Monday after DNA evidence linked the crimes to another man.

    Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William Ryan exonerated Luis Vargas after DNA evidence linked the crimes to the so-called “teardrop rapist,” who is suspected of more than 30 rapes in the Los Angeles area since 1996 and has never been identified, AP reported.

    The teardrop rapist gained his nickname for a teardrop tattoo under his eye. The rapist was known for grabbing his victims and threatening them with a weapon before pulling them into a secluded area and raping them, the Los Angeles Times reported.

    Vargas, lived near the area where several assaults took place and was misidentified as the rapist because of a similar teardrop tattoo, according to the Times.

    (snipped, more @ link)
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/24/man-prison-rape-convictions-cleared-dna-testing-after-16-years/76300404/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories

  11. T. Ruth says:

    MockingbirdSings says:
    November 23, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    @Blink says:

    Thank You Kindly MBS!!! However I can assure y’all that won’t be necessary. Im pretty confident the facts of this investigation, and most especially the egregious errors therein will be known. Maybe sooner than we think.

    B
    ********************
    Sooner than we think? Something brewing?

  12. T. Ruth says:

    @Blink

    I don’t believe Ms. Ramirez is in a position to state what sort of searches were conducted at the Horman home and I don’t believe it has never been searched via canines trained to detect human decomposition. I also note DY is not saying any of this directly for a reason.
    B
    **********
    I totally agree. But if it were true, then her request to have his property searched by cadaver dogs should be aimed at LE, not KH. Crazy!

    Technically- without Kaines permission nobody is searching his private property. This just sounds like a ploy to promote that crime show invited to follow DY around last September. The one she mentioned everyone pulled out with dogs or something?
    B

  13. Rose says:

    Iirc kelly actually made that post a few years ago.
    Soldier has been trotting out old material. While
    regurgitation may be a crime show endorsement
    marketing ploy, imo it’s also possibke they are putting out leading lines
    wrt the next search in the new year, as donations have slowed,
    or are negligble.

    Oh geeze.
    b

  14. Malty says:

    That crime watch program is on tomorrow at 4:00 For me If I don’t take a nape Channel 32
    Some how I don’t feel very excited. If I don’t see DY and drama I like her better. No kidding she is just to much
    Drama for me

  15. Malty says:

    Blink. Pic of closets LOL now that is funny.

  16. Malty says:

    Kaine doesn’t seem to concerned what over the Davidsons want He is right about only letting LE search.
    Just common sense to get records Of searches done by LE Or get a private search from qualified
    Known people Just more talk from that other side Stirring up stuff

    @Rose. I sat here and read every single post and comments from the soldier last night and links I never can get over how all that violence talk is FB and Davidson approved Beatings now water boarding I don’t read very often Over there Spooky

    I was contacted by a verified source on the canine issue wrt to the Horman property. Upon their arrival after being requested by Staton, lead FBI CART team responders were PRESENT in the hours of approximately 3-5:30Am the morning of June 5th, 2010 when the entire Horman property was searched by 2 canines ( and their handlers) specifically trained to detect human decomposition. The residence was searched by one canine, room by room, simultaneously while the grounds were searched by the other. Upon completion, they switched the canines to repeat the others search area. There were no alerts by either canine. That search and additional searches performed 3 and 5 days later respectively, were all done with consent and nothing was removed from the home.““

    I have been very critical of MCSO for very clear and unambiguous reasons regarding the handling of this investigation and I stand behind that. This investigation is not progressing because they are concerned about job security and pension loss, of that I am positive. ( as a result of negligence accusations which I believe under OR law are very valid across the board here). One thing I DO wish to say they did right, albeit the first few days they were operating under the assumption that Kyron walked off school grounds on his own. Their search teams, patterns, overall SAR execution were nearly perfect for that scenario and I am positive they cleared the immediate vicinity very quickly.

    It was not known until about day 3 that Ky was seen with SZ, which I now believe culminated from the inability to account for everyone on the verified list initially because the interviews were conducted by several different LEA’s with varying intel to start with.
    That said- as I understand it, LE subsequently learned that SZ was captured on 2 different parents footage from the Science Fair. If that does not freeze your shorts- I don’t know what ever will. I do not yet have permission to publish the source of this information, but it is forthcoming. I can say that witnesses I am aware of have NEVER been shown these images that gave sworn statements re SZ to corroborate he was the man they described.

    Words escape me.

    B

  17. NelMel says:

    Someone stop me from making comments on the HC Facebook pages when I see stupid people make deliberately inflammatory and false statements.

    Please and thank you.

    Don’t follow my example and listen to the voices of reason of your peers here NelMel.

    My Poppa used to call it peeing up a rope. It is impossible , messy, and well, unpleasant.
    B

  18. Rose says:

    Bless your investigative boots Blink.

    Everyday. But like many, I appreciate the reminder.
    B

  19. Rose says:

    Wrt regurgitating old articles or statements to support a POV, Soldier does not differ from a poster on SM who does the same. On the other hand, TRuth, erose & other differ here. They repost because they have found anomalies or unexplaineds for fresh analysis.

    I noticed this last night:
    http://www.kptv.com/story/23465152/kyron-horman-case-returns-to-national-spotlight-with-dr-phil-show
    Posters largely comment negatively about both kptv’s reporting and the bios.
    There is no reason not to take what Kaine says as true. He indirectly verifies there was an email about “fighting” that night, and states the content was one of many lies. If so, TH could use a psychological eval.
    —–
    It is unconscionable LE only learned about Kyron on day 3. Keefer should have ignored any mcso person Fri nite saying “keep quiet” and called back every employee on Fri nite for a closed staff meeting to track K’s whereabouts at all times with Terri, then after the bell & her departure, and he should have told them if they omitted any detail they opened themselves up to obstruction. He should have placed in them enough fear such that Mathews coughed up, but such a staff mtg would also have given them relief and support because to know the facts firsthand from each other is indirect team building and staff-supportive. The truth sets free.

  20. Rose says:

    3-5:30 am 6/5 would’ve given TH no window to move a body
    prior to a search had she wished to. DY was at a motel then wasn’t she?
    Imo if she did not see that search firsthand, in her mind it didn’t happen.

    I was thinking how TH couldn’t invite James for any holiday or visit, as he would
    just tell Kristen, Kaine & Soldiers her whereabouts and probably take an instagram pic.
    Terri could only see him in Roseburg. Nor can his father & Angela know.
    Kristin & Kaine have thoroughly alienated her from ongoing motherly
    relations with both her children, even at Thanksgiving.

  21. Rose says:

    if LE had 2 sets of images of an unidentified male, showed them to Mathews’ room-affidavit witnesses to corroborate he was the man with Kyron, shouldn’t they then do a public image release calling for this person to contact them to assist with information-gathering. Of course that would destroy the then-in-process Rackner-Meisenheimer-Horman civil case taking kiara from Terri gambit and reveal the emperor had had empty clothes.

  22. Rose says:

    I rarely look at MK FB, but based on Malty’s look see at WS, I checked it. The pics & stories clone WS so closely niw, you’d think the moderators were identical. Soldier recently put up one of her favorite pics, she said: Desiree in front of Moukton’s at her chalk & coffee figurative lynching party for media. Whatever the Soldiers’ FBs are, the public accusations of Terri were begun and fomented by both bios and a spouse of same.

  23. Rose says:

    wrt the expiration of the statute of limitation on the mfh.
    If I were a criminal attorney I would not count it from the
    alleged date of solicitation as is legally correct, but I would
    take a political POV and count it from the date of Kaine’s filed
    affidavit in reliance on LE averring it occurred. Otherwise someone,
    to stretch the SofL, could argue it began to run when LE learned of the mfh and argue
    successfully for a later kick off. We know Kantor & his County bedfellows issue political rulings,
    or whatever I feel like rulings, and don’t follow the law strictly. So I would play
    it safe and use the date the mfh was first reduced to an affidavit relying on
    info provided by LE.

  24. Rose says:

    mixed my metaphors, sorry

    meant: “emperor had no clothes”
    I was thinking of “empty suits” wrt
    mcda/so and mixed images.

  25. Tiny says:

    There is no point in commenting. If you are local, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the smokescreen is so thick and the hate so deep that there is nothing you can do.
    When people talk about this case, and that has been significantly less lately, I just say “TMH didn’t do it and there was a stranger in the school”
    If people give me a negative reaction I just reply, “time will tell”
    Words have escaped me since 2010. They do not want the public to know there was an SZ. At some point though, it will be known. A perverse laugh, sadly, will probably be mine.

  26. erose says:

    I have frozen shorts and am eagerly anticipating forthcoming information.

    erose playing the role as Malty, Ladies and Gentleman.

    LOL, teasing, yes, more freezing on the way. Not Fargo style, for real.
    B

  27. Malty says:

    @NelMel great idea no body should follow me to their sites. Or listen to my personal opinion. Everyone here is smart enough to think for themselves anyway I believe that.
    It is a waste of time to read there Some of the remarks are just jealousy Going way back over time
    Between these people who run these discussion sites
    Mrs M has been griping about our site a long time She should just look at her life A little closer

    That said I need to watch my words and stick to trying find out what happened at Skyline on June 4 2010
    That is all that matters. IMO Most of the time LOL
    I like clam white sauce pasta garlic bread green salad But it is diet time. Around here

  28. Malty says:

    Blink Thanks for the info No big surprise But great to read something was done right. By LE

  29. cd says:

    I watched Crime Watch Daily

    The show seems pretty cheesy. They kept the audience in suspense for quite awhile and made a big drama about the deer bone. DY was there batting her 2 inch eyelashes(and lots of makeup). What was odd was that in sequence’s where she is supposedly crying she is dabbing her face and making the sounds but its pretty obvious there are no tears. DY probably does not have a future as an actress.

    IMO They made her do the same grieving scenes over and over until it was what they wanted. What happened is her scenes where she is supposed to cry and look upset appear scripted and fake (no tears to match the sobbing). Walking 3 feet away from the deer bones and looking down.

    DY repeated the fake Casey Anthony no body excuse for why TH has not been charged. Hello DY they did find Caylee Anthonys body before /during her mothers trial everyone who watched the news about the trial knows that.

    Hasn’t she said before that they haven’t charged TH because they want to charge her with everything at once. Someone from the show must have reminded DY that legally that excuse is pure BS.

    The genius moderator talked about the MFH but was never able to explain (and did not even try) why TH was never arrested for MFH (its been 5 years).

    What happened to the hateful emails? (not even mentioned).

    They brought up the name change but said nothing about DY and the HC getting TH terminated from the job she got in Eugene. They had a clip from the video made in the courtroom about the name change. The part where TH says she wants Kyron found more then anything and the judge refusing her name change.

    I think I know why DY/SG are bad mouthing Kaine. There was no interview of Kaine I’ll bet he refused to talk to them. In fact there was no interview of anyone related to the case except DY (not even Tony).

    no LE
    no TH or her family
    no Lawyer
    no teachers or school officials
    no friends of TH
    no DDS
    no Kaine
    no landscaper
    no Tony?

    DY did not even mention DDS and neither did the show.

    Looks like very little if anything was verified or researched by this group(CWD). I thought they would at least regurgitate what info had been in the local media about the case. Maybe no-one would talk to them.

    http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/

    Um- let me get this straight- a search funded by requests for cash on go fund me results in a TV crew and promotion of same? Idiots.
    B

  30. Rose says:

    I see crimewatchdaily has it wrong out of the starting gate:
    “He went missing between 8:45 and 8:55 a.m.”
    http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/
    loss of show’s credibility…
    —-

    sigh, going on, this video states those times as issuing from Desiree’s mouth…

    The Video narrator is the man following Desiree in a forest shot.
    He is a motor-challenged forest klutz imo,
    but good for him, he tried.

    in front of him, she is so well clad, I wonder if she is channeling kate middleton.

    those tammy faye baker
    eyelashes kill me every time.

    “Desiree claims several people told her they saw kyron leave with terri horman”

    Desiree says “according to eyewitness accounts, multiple adults ” say “Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with kyron in tow , and we know this because kyron’s friend even saw him with her right outside the school”.

    2:58 Desiree says in reply to who do you believe is responsible for his disappearance? “Terri Horman, his stepmom.”

    I stop watching at 3:56, at Desiree’s2ndhand recitation of the le mfh allegation.

    I am tired of the blonded hair, the ringlets.

  31. Rose says:

    @Malty. The sun will never rise on the
    day I don’t listen to your personal opinion.

    Kind lady- ditto to you
    B

  32. T. Ruth says:

    @NelMel says:
    November 25, 2015 at 12:22 am

    Look into my eyes…….

    I wish I could stop you, the only thing that works for me is to simply not go there. Every time someone points me to go over there, I may gain some knowledge, but mostly not, and mostly hatred is what is spewing forth, IMO , not much different than it might be if one were to go on on some ISIS site; though, I can’t say that for sure, because I’ve never been there.

  33. T. Ruth says:

    Tiny says:
    November 25, 2015 at 11:11 am

    Thank you for your comments. I, to this day, do not know whether or not TMH is responsible. But as someone who resides in Oregon as well, I want to know what happened. How the heck did a little child disappear from a school who allegedly was under EVERYONE’S watch.

  34. Rose says:

    @cd. based on yr report, I am so glad I hit “stop” before the deer bones
    & whatever titillating followon.

    I am way beyond thinking grieving mother is stuck in her grief,
    or worse, is amuck in her grief,
    to believing she needs psychological testing & consequent support for whatever.

    I learned long ago in cps some
    loving mothers (in their eyes)
    just need firm boundaries set by external
    reality checks, even the law .

  35. Rose says:

    @tiny. the good news is Zabel is professional, at least on line,
    compared to keefer and sage. hope springs eternal.

  36. erose says:

    Best compliment ever.

    erose says:
    November 25, 2015 at 2:26 pm
    I have frozen shorts and am eagerly anticipating forthcoming information.
    snip>
    erose playing the role as Malty,…

    Lol, IKR? I keep hoping someone mistakes me for her- not going to happen. I say this with lament- I suck at subtle.
    B

  37. Rose says:

    “Um- let me get this straight- a search funded by requests for cash on go fund me results in a TV crew and promotion of same? ”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments

    previous & counted on SAR certified
    and “nonprofit” teams with dogs (some
    previoys have been reputable & some squirrelly)
    declined to participate
    such that Medford’s County chipped in at last minute.

    was her gofundme promoted on this show?
    maybe I should bite the bullet and finish watching.
    I stopped the newsreel–were any dog crew searchers shown?

  38. erose says:

    LE may have not realized SZ ’til day 3, but when did PPS realize the same?

    Great question.
    B

  39. erose says:

    @CD, Thank you for the post about the show.

    cd says:
    November 25, 2015 at 8:39 pm
    snip>
    I watched Crime Watch Daily

  40. MockingbirdSings says:

    Sorta OT, but honestly I have never thought about this possibility for escape before. I guess I assumed that, like my house alarm, a low battery would trigger a notification to whoever is monitoring the bracelet. Apparently not. This guy is definitely not one to let camp out in Forest Park or anywhere else.

    snipped)
    MULTNOMAH COUNTY, Ore. — A sex offender who let his monitoring bracelet’s battery die while he was on parole was found in downtown Portland Wednesday.
    Officials say Dennis John Davis did 25 years behind bars for kidnapping, rape and sodomy. He was convicted in 1990 for attacking a woman along a road in Troutdale, posing as a man needing help.
    After he was released, he violated his parole and was sent back to jail for one more month.
    In June, Davis violated his parole for the second time by violating curfew and cutting off his ankle bracelet. When officers caught up with him, he was carrying porn, drugs and a knife; he was sent back to jail for another two months.

    Last weekend, officials say Davis let his ankle monitoring bracelet run out of power.

    The last area the bracelet tracked him was in Forest Park near Washington Park. He was found in downtown Portland near NW Davis and 4th Avenue Wednesday morning.
    He told police, “I’m just tired of being tracked” and that he was camping out.
    Multnomah County officials will now ask the parole board to send him back to prison.

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/Sex-offender-who-let-his-ankle-bracelet-run-out-Tired-of-being-tracked-dennis-john-davis-353861641.html

  41. Rose says:

    I bit the bullet and watched as far as online goes

    at about 2:44
    Desiree says they had probable cause& were ready to charge her
    when (tada) Casey Anthony happened.

    “suddenly my law enforcement team for kyron’s case started pulling back”.

    12:50 “today’s search grid is based on new information Desiree has recently received from confidential sources” Jason: “those tips have led you…”

    Jason: “those tips have led you to this location?”
    Desiree: …”this….and several others”

    6:17 DY on camera, shaking, a breakdown fake imo

    Desiree says “We know, we think she did it. It’s hard for a mom…”

    Her Breakdown? At odds with her pristine, unmuddied search clothes. Why the new gloves, clothes? for the camera? why not old sweats, old Ts?
    —-
    re bone find —
    jason: lt could be a femur, it could be anything.
    this is where the online tape stops.
    I guess more show diagnosed a deer.
    —–

    Where to start?

    1. To suggest that the DA was ready to charge TH suggests the GJ returned an indictment- We all know that is completely false. What bearing would ( and I am unclear as to the exact parallel) “how missing child cases are investigated” have to do with Kyrons case. I can tell you that members of CART would take issue with that statement. To suggest the DA was going to charge TMH outside of a no true bill defies the constitution and the Oregon supreme court. Didn’t she have pending civil action at this time? So are we to now believe that she was told TH was about to be charged, essentially bolstering her complaint in her civil suit and as a result she withdrew it?

    2. What was the new tip- that a deer femur would be laying there and make for good drama? I got news for you people- if that SAR team cannot tell the difference between an animal femur and a human femur they have no business organizing a search for human remains. It is clear for me why dog teams pulled out- they were likely asked to sign a waiver to be filmed for the show – you will notice they do not show whether the cadaver dog alerts to it.

    3. I think we all agree this was designed as a photo op pre film production for this show. I will leave the discussion about crowd funding for such an endeavor to y’all.

    4. Her timeline of Kyrons disappearance is impossible, and to my knowledge, is not shared by LE. There is no getting around that. A follow up question would be- what is she basing that 10 minute window on? I can tell you my opinion- in her estimation 8:55am can still put TMH at Fred Myer and associated timestamps there. I wish to be clear on this point specifically- The side door, where the students enter from the bus, is where TH was approaching with Kyron and Kitty when she noticed he did not have his backpack. The trio WAS SEEN walking away from the school (not leaving) and returned to the truck, got the backpack, returned to the exact same entrance, all PRIOR to Kyron entering his classroom, and wait for it- there is video footage of TH leaving from that door with just Kiara. I don’t know if DY has ever been told that by LE or if she is choosing to misrepresent witness accounts. But once again, I would offer- if the goal is to locate her child, wouldn’t that be better accomplished by discussing facts and relevant evidence? Kaine is also clear on this point- Kyron was in the school, as seen by multiple child and adult witnesses following TH departure- What reasonable person believes that if there was a single credible witness account showing (or pic as I have seen DY say previously) Kyron leaving with Terri that a grand jury would not have indicted her- come on?

    5. There was a difference in her delivery on some questions that made me think were answered that way to avoid further questions- an example is- for the first time I have seen- when asked why she had not attended the science fair that day she said living 4 1/2 rs away in Medford was challenging at times. That was undoubtedly true- and because her previous response about month end close or whatever was not truthful considering she had only been inside Skyline school one time in all Kys 3 years of attendance- his first day of kinder. Her non verbal body languange and response regarding when Ky disappeared would be interpreted by me in an interview setting as untruthful, unfortunately. We are trained to catch when a subject seeks to release tension- its there.

    No mention of “TH eamiled Porter to excuse him that day”. No doubt Rosenthal clued her in on publicly assigning neglience in a lie is going to get her sued.

    Not a word about DDS- she apparently got that memo- might want to pass that on to the crater.

    That said- on her very raw emotion and guilt – it is real, it breaks my heart and if she were under proper therapeutic care she would know that bringing TH or anyone else to justice (note she does not mention finding Kyron here but I do consider edits) will never do anything for her psychologically- sometimes whether or not the child is located.

    I will continue to pray for her but mostly for Kyron to be found- I believe a predator walks free. Naming that predator might show DY how there was no fault to her in protecting him from same.

    B

  42. Rose says:

    wrt “at about 2:44
    Desiree says they had probable cause& were ready to charge her
    when Casey Anthony” …. (7/5/11)

    The timing of this “they” (the da’s office)
    were ready to charge her & changed “their”
    minds seems to me coincident with ada moawad’s reassignment
    from one year of fulltime case management.

    Embedded in this 2013 announcement, Kitz’ PR says Moawad, Jeff Barker’s daughter,
    was the fulltime ada assigned to kyron’s case for its first year
    https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-325126563.html

    When I thought yesterday about who has most to loose when Blink refers to loss
    of careers due to the coverup of major investigation errors &
    negligance, I thought it can’t be Frink or Schrunk–they are retired, nor teflon Staton–
    he’s too detached from investigation management. That leaves Kavfre, Wall, O’Donnel, and most
    of all the fulltime case-assigned ADA. Imo a political job for which a law degree is not
    required (Gov’s political advisor on public safety) was created for Barker’s daughter, and imo
    at the time she had no background, training, or education in public
    safety in terms of the most qualified who might have applied for the job had it been competitive.
    Moreover her husband also left the da’s office for a plum public safety job at OSHU. A law degree
    was not required for either job. In fact, he has been succeeded recently by a formerly allegedly
    troubled PPB officer he had hired. So when I think of whose license and career would be in jeopardy,
    the ada assigned fulltime July 2010-2011 who handled investigation planning with O’Donnell and
    associates strikes me as a candidate. Her father’s power reached to Kitzhaber. What will be her fate
    with Brown? I don’t see Brown as too different from Kitz or Rosenblum when it comes to self
    political interest (staying in office) as an overriding behabioral guide.

  43. Ode says:

    ..This is a true story….my Daisy Dukes are sub zero. I look forward to seeing any new developments that will help us find out what happened to little Kyron. I have to go slap the turkey now but wanted to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. :)

  44. T. Ruth says:

    Malty says:
    November 24, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    Blink says:

    I was contacted by a verified source on the canine issue wrt to the Horman property. Upon their arrival after being requested by Staton, lead FBI CART team responders were PRESENT in the hours of approximately 3-5:30Am the morning of June 5th, 2010 when the entire Horman property was searched by 2 canines ( and their handlers) specifically trained to detect human decomposition. The residence was searched by one canine, room by room, simultaneously while the grounds were searched by the other. Upon completion, they switched the canines to repeat the others search area. There were no alerts by either canine. That search and additional searches performed 3 and 5 days later respectively, were all done with consent and nothing was removed from the home.““

    (snip)
    *****************
    Well, that settles that then. This then brings me right back to what I was thinking when DY went public on Dr. Phil and said Kaine wouldn’t let “them” search his property. It makes me think that both LE & KH himself know that DY might just well *plant* some sort of evidence. I mean otherwise, why would KH object? He told her then and there that LE is welcome to search there again anytime.

    *******************
    @cd says:
    November 25, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    Thanks for the review. Glad I don’t get that channel. In regards to DY’s acting. I don’t know, but I personally think she may be a very good one.

  45. T. Ruth says:

    Happy Turkey Day everyone! Don’t eat too much! ;)

  46. Rose says:

    Suspect timing. Any reasonable person would infer social
    media Coordination between General & Soldier.
    Soldier resumes pleas this afternoon
    to donate to gofundme *** at the very same time**
    General’s gofundme site puts up a new “letter,” tho
    not attributed to General or acct owner.
    And donations start up again.

  47. Malty says:

    Hope Thanksgiving was good for all

    @CD Thanks for the Crime Watch review
    I did not watch it By my own decision as I just get negative toward DY and drama

    From what you saw I can see I decided right
    One question was Kelly on the show also
    Well 2 questions. Who paid who I don’t understand.

  48. Malty says:

    @CD The statement posted at the end was a surprise I bet it will be a surprise to others as well

  49. Rose says:

    @Malty. What statement?

    Prolly mine?
    B

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