Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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I am positing SZ was previously in the school – ie, former staff or student, pps or pta labor contractor, volunteer either direct or thru orgs, the before-after school Jewish day care center onsite service provider, any of many grants projects (ie, music or exercise/sports, or all the green stuff to include everthing from refuse collector to the myriad Bonneville & Solar4schools grant players). So
Why that school?
1. SZ was previously on site, able to scout, sexually driven by the population
2. known to SZ many pps protocols were not followed. lax loose laid back.
3. easy departure arteries to the north (WA), south (CA), and east.
4. many isolated forested areas nearby
5. less street traffic at 9 am than other areas
6. not a particularly cohesive bonded group of parents. yes, there was a small core — but not widespread interpersonal involvement. (as evidenced by pta & auction minutes).
7. had the target age preference.
Why that day
1. if opportunistic, end of school year. the kids would be gone, gone.
2. 2. if KH, drs’ apptmt. And to make it worse, he would be spending a long period living in summer with a detective. (I don’t subscribe to this.)
3. SF inhouse “field trip” (aka expectable chaos) offered opportunity.
Why that child?
1. perhaps SZ was flexible, based on his knowledge of the school & students.
2. he had a certain age & type parameter, and then it came down to availability within the plan.
3. Kyron simply stood out as different & more vulnerable.
The very prominant & connected Jewish day care center’s longtime before school care program at Skyline may as easily have been the SZ feeder as Skyline’s contractors. Should’ve looked at anyone “voluntarily not returning” (yes, let go) in the precding 3 years from that space renting nonprofit.
Who did Daniel Staton get his “new investigatory
avenues” info from, amongst his detectives?
He was relying on someone else’s feeder words imo.
Frink/Scrunk/Underhill/Rees
I have yet to interview a source that even came into contact with Mowad.
B
It is impossible now to go back & get the Solar4schools staff pics for 2010.
But iirc they were generally white males late 20s early 30s.
The website has evolved & is complex.
But then part of the school project grant was a school pairing with a staffer
who came & presented a solar energy lesson plan in classrooms. thru that, one
could get to know kids & names in a target age, looks group.
imo the onsite nonprofit day care must have had staff turnover and every incentive not
to volunteer to mcso their terminations for cause list.
I am with Rose on speculation that new info is a source.
@Blink, You answer TRuth and talk about a source (12.07.15 @ 12:53), but I was focused on the deposition of Porter which I figured came by FOIA material. Are you testing slinkys or are you on the precipice? It seems you are working with new info one way or the other, and it couldn’t be in better hands for Kyron’s sake.
I’m so slow, I see you are leaving the slinky testing behind! You go!
@erose. I’m more slow–I still don’t get the slinky stuff.
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wrt Rose says:
December 7, 2015 at 2:29 pm
Frink/Scrunk/Underhill/Rees
I have yet to interview a source that even came into contact with Mowad.
B”
Try interviewing Kitzhaber….
How is it F/S/U/R could feed the info about “new investigatory avenues” to Sheriff Staton – information that did not originate with and come to him via one of his own detectives. That is backwards. Imo Sheriff Staton seems so passive & lame.
http://www.portageinc.com/community/pp/slinky.aspx
I think Blink is throwing around her physics knowledge. I don’t know what energy Blink is working under but I hope it sheds some light on what happened at Skyline. The HC group will ignore it I am sure. They have only one agenda, not truth but “Vigilante justice”. There was a man that took Kyron out of his school. Why does his family not want the public to focus on this? He is the key as to what happened to Kyron. That is what I would scream from the rafters. Who is this man.
@Ode, So that means it’s someone who is privy to Porter’s deposition. Someone in the DA’s office or a juror, or Porter herself or a confidant.
Ode says:
December 7, 2015 at 3:49 pm
I am with Rose on speculation that new info is a source.
long commendation of Corrections Sgt Jordan, son in law & business partner of former Sheriff Skipper.
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs152/1102356663680/archive/1117274923370.html
Iirc it was the Corrections deputies who voted against endorsing Staton.
I don’t think Blink confined new info to Porter’s depo.
Iirc she mentioned aPPS asset who secondarily & informally
observed Kyron. She also mentioned dr’s apptmt info.
But the biggest thing she mentioned was the conduct
of both grand juries in which some case-involved professionals
may have violated statute or law.
(aside That well-intended employee could get in real trouble with PPS
if spilling opinion to a noncustodial stepmother, or even a custodial
parent, wrt a child PPS had not assigned her to observe and for which
an observation permission had not been signed by the home.)
Rose says:
December 7, 2015 at 7:18 pm
@erose. I’m more slow–I still don’t get the slinky stuff.
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I don’t get the reference either. Thick probably. Slinky is only fun when you have stairs……to go down. That I know.
Wouldn’t Porter’s depo have been given in the divorce, not the GJ where she testified orally?
Thus she is free to speak about it, the writing exists, and those with access would be attorneys for mother & father, Court staff, & principals.
Correct on her depo.
B
@Rose, Great white board. Why that day #4 most LEO’s were at a memorial that morning.
wrt “new investigatory avenues” I am understanding the DA’s wanted/needed a reason to convene a 2nd GJ, so they could stonewall the divorce/custody hearing citing “ongoing investigation.” So they told Stanton to make one of those 4000 leads viable. I think Stanton said something about an old lead warming up in CA. Would love a status report on that.
@TRuth, Your June 3rd breakdown had me thinking about that day. Who was it that Neighbor saw that day that he thought might be KH? Thinking about EM being Kyron’s kindergarten teacher, she must have met KH at least once. If Neighbor saw someone at Skyline on the 3rd that looked like KH it’s possible that EM mistook SZ for KH. White male in his 30′s.
erose says:
January 21, 2014 at 8:41 pm
Wasn’t it Neighbor who said KH and TH were at Skyline together on June 3 and dropped off the project?
As I recall Neighbor believed he saw Kaine there on June 3rd, but was not sure, and I can confirm that Kaine was not there June 3rd.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-15/
Blink says, “…Porter in her depo admitting the lapse of protocol in reporting Kyron absent and assuming he had a Dr. appt. (we don’t know immediate notification would have thwarted this).”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
While the act of kidnapping belongs to the kidnapper, two staff member’s violation of PPS’ policies & practices contributed: Mathews’ giving affirmative permission to a student to leave the bldg with a stranger and Keefer’s
routinely not enforcing the door control and sign in policies tho on notice from his Supv to do so, of which Keefer had
informed the community in writing. The failure to regularly retrain all staff and to supervise Keefer wrt a known problem was PPS’. I don’t see where Porter’s absence recirding and apptment confusion contributed to the abduction act. Hers is arguably a separate act of negligant omission not commission that perhaps might have impacted recovery, but not the abduction. A jury would likely think Porter’s lapses were reasonable given her responsibilities that day (the Fair) and her hearing disability (which PPS knowingly placed her in the youngest of chikdrens’ classrooms despite it having been severe enough that in college she had the accommodation of all materials had to be in writing given the technology made available to her). The utterly bizarre thing is Kaine sent kiara to this school. …and then left it to a paramour to be the pta volunteer.
Agreed but you know how torts work Rose- assignment percentages of negligence and contributory “silos” if you will.
B
I must have missed something Is there new info
Sure is time
per O article, whose reporters mostly I consider unreliable sources wrt
accuracy. mentions Moawad’s role. Whatever it was, = fulltime for a year per Kitz.
She was part of a small, tasked DA team, therefore any future Houze
or other (civil suit) depos need to include her–may she flip on bigger fish.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/district_attorney_and_sheriff.html
You are absolutely right about her assignment Rose- I apologize if I did not make that clear- I am just stating as we head toward triple digit interviews in this case- I have yet to have anyone mention her name.
B
iirc EM was not kyron’s K teacher.
the male was.
@Blink. I have no doubt it was the big fish (Frink, Rees) who put the screws on or questioned yr sources.
Nevertheless, Moawad was in the trenches with O’Donnell as the info feeder to Rees/Frink. What happens in govt to bad info feeders up the food chain. Imo she was a naive waif who overestimated her prosecution chops,!needing to climb back to credibility, & this case gave her a chance. wrt O’s depiction as the computer team lead, ZERO in her training, education, work history prepared her. Again, someone needs to hold her accountable (by civil suit), then enlist her to testify against others.
wrt an LE memorial service & display on 6/4 as a SZ Day Choice factor.
Imo that would only be relevant if SZ was a member of the local LE subculture & aware
of that event in advance.(abduction was planned)
I think restricting SZ to a member of the LE subculture is less likely than
considering other frequenters of the Skyline premises.
I’m forgetting something. Kyron was in the second grade with Ms. Porter, who was his 1st grade teacher? I thought it was McBeth. If he was his Kindergarten teacher, then who was his first grade teacher?
Do we know that Kyron was even at Skyline for Kindergarten? Apologize for my lack of recall here. Somehow I was thinking they moved to the area sometime that same year, 07?
Kyron was in kinder at Skyline with MacBeth, as well as first grade. He did not have Matthews. It is my understanding that because Kyron’s 5th birthday fell a day or two after the beginning of the Fall year he had to provide some testing results and referrals ( this was the case requirement when my kids were little, btw) – I am pretty sure KH purchased the Sheltered Nook home in 2006- anyone feel free to correct me on that.
B
Thank you, Blink, I didn’t realize he was with MacBeth for 2 years, that’s where my confusion was.
what is yr analysis of the CWD show aftermath if not fallout?
You know Rose- I came back to your question a few times today thinking it *of course* deserved appropriate contemplation. The truth is I keep coming back to “meh”. Very few people watched it and it got really no promotion and feedback, sharing, etc. I think reasonable folks took a step back and saw it for what it was- orchestrated folly that ultimately served to discredit a major foundation. I can tell you the crowdfunding thing is going the way of fantasy football gaming- CLE on it was sold out first day.
B
SMH on the depo and the teacher. So was that his old room but not his old teacher?
erose says:
December 8, 2015 at 4:08 am
@TRuth, Your June 3rd breakdown had me thinking about that day. Who was it that Neighbor saw that day that he thought might be KH? Thinking about EM being Kyron’s kindergarten teacher, she must have met KH at least once. If Neighbor saw someone at Skyline on the 3rd that looked like KH it’s possible that EM mistook SZ for KH. White male in his 30′s.
erose says:
January 21, 2014 at 8:41 pm
Wasn’t it Neighbor who said KH and TH were at Skyline together on June 3 and dropped off the project?
As I recall Neighbor believed he saw Kaine there on June 3rd, but was not sure, and I can confirm that Kaine was not there June 3rd.
B
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Duh – after all these years, I missed that “Neighbor” was a “he”. I don’t know why, but it makes me want to reread all those posts.
Rose says:
December 7, 2015 at 9:21 pm
I don’t think Blink confined new info to Porter’s depo.
Iirc she mentioned aPPS asset who secondarily & informally
observed Kyron. She also mentioned dr’s apptmt info.
But the biggest thing she mentioned was the conduct
of both grand juries in which some case-involved professionals
may have violated statute or law.
(aside That well-intended employee could get in real trouble with PPS
if spilling opinion to a noncustodial stepmother, or even a custodial
parent, wrt a child PPS had not assigned her to observe and for which
an observation permission had not been signed by the home.)
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@Rose – re your “aside”. When I’ve done classroom observations of a student, I (and others I know) make detailed notes of what is going on between the student and teacher, as well as the other students. It speaks to focus, distractions, social skills, friendships, understanding, timing, ability to ask questions about a lesson, eye contact, teamwork, and much more.
In the many written observations I’m familiar with, the other students are generally referred to by initials when describing an interaction. (ex: observing John – John dropped pencil on floor. B.R. picked up, smiled, said “here you go”. John yelled “you tried to steal my pencil.”) The observation notes are then reviewed and re-written as a formal report to be presented to the building team doing the evaluation, or to the psychologist, physician, or agency expected to evaluate the student further and/or begin working with the student. The formal report should not include anything which could identify other students and it focuses on the student being evaluated. Only the person doing the observation has the complete picture in mind.
Depending on the skills of the observer and the purpose of the observation, it’s quite possible for the observer to learn some significant information about one or more other children in the class. Someone may also observe the entire class at a teacher’s request for assistance with classroom discipline or teaching strategies, for example. This is “off the record” unless it is a teacher’s supervisor.
It has always been my understanding that the school is a learning community and that a certain degree of sharing of certain kinds of information in certain appropriate ways is allowed and happens every day among professionals within a district. I might say confidentially to the teacher that when I visited, I noticed Sam has a particular behavior and wonder if she has talked to the parents about it yet or if she would like some resources to help him.
Saving the observation notes is not a requirement even though saving the formal report would be. Many people do save their notes in case there are questions about what they’ve reported and recommended. So it’s possible some written notes might exist (probably personal file rather than a cum file) which refer to some interactions Kyron had with the student being observed, or attempts he made to distract him, etc. Carol Moulton said he frequently got in trouble for talking to another student (boy, I think) too much – I assume she got that secondhand from Terri.
The tragedy of the abduction of Kyron would probably imprint that day of observation on my brain whether I saved notes or not. I would consider information from a person working in this capacity credible, and I would be very careful to guard my source. Technically, after 3 years, information written about any of the kids would not be useful for the purpose it was collected (observed), and a lot of professionals would not use information that was older than a year and not followed up within that time – kids grow and change so quickly. It would still be considered confidential, but you would probably have a hard time showing that any harm was done by disclosing most of what you’d see in an observation.
If I ever subpoenaed any records from the school about Kyron, I would also mention any existing personal notes and behavioral records. We used to go through and remove anything like that if not specifically requested by subpoena.
1. I have never heard a quote from Porter in any media account. I have seen statements attributable to her- with no source.
2. I think Finster was translating her perception of what she was told- I did as well before learning differently.
3. Note here- I do think it is a true statement that TH was discussing her concerns about Kyron with friends ( in some cases trained in the field) and not with DY or Kaine but I don’t see how someones best recollection is lying without actually interviewing them- which as you know is a CHALLENGE.
B
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I get it. But, IMHO, there were either forms given to Porter….or there were not. That statement from Finster implies the handing over of documents to Ms. Porter, which she (Finster) claims was info she heard from TMH.
How that could be a discrepancy is beyond me. It is an admission of one not only having possession of such papers to begin with, but in handing said papers over to another.
So where is the discrepancy unless someone is not telling the truth?
I guess what you are telling us is that somehow you are privy to Porter’s depo, and within that, Porter is saying she was NEVER handed any papers/forms to fill out from TMH. If that is the case, then, my investigative eyeball goes to the one who said there was. Sorry, can’t help it.
I am not clear what your investigative eyeball nod means- I think, to be fair, since I reported similarly about forms- it might be unblinking at me (I reported a contextual forms request and had to self correct). However, I am also CAUTIONING how we are evaluating MSM reports as fact without verification. AND to be fair- red flagging my own corrections to information v opinion. It is not lost on me that at times what I may be able to “breadcrumb”- my lack of usual veracity breeds, well, WTF?
Please know that I am so very respectful of your scrutiny, as well as everyone else’s.
B
Ooops, “How that could NOT be a discrepancy”. Insert NOT. Sorry.
Don’t worry guys, I’ve got left field covered, LOL.
LMAO
Good news it’s not a dugout- xo
B
So the way I see it Blink at least double sources to verify.
In my reading experience O “reporters”, kgw, katu, et al do not. They get some human interest
BS from bios or whoever…their go to mcso/da/pps golden oldie (overuse & overreliance) “source”.
Then copy each other. I do not believe anything any OR (or CWD, or Phil, or Klass,
etc) “reports.”
In the Finster case wrt the form, either
1) print article got it wrong (no surprise), OR
2) Finster misinderstood as she was a teacher who if a mom told a
teacher she had a doctor’s apptment to eval for LDs of any stripe
and wanted the teacher’s input, in the ordinary course a form would be handed over for teacher completion.
I expect that (imo hapless) pediatrician would have dished the form on June 11 during the appointment
scheduled by Terri to discuss the PPS asset’s overflow observations.
@erose. well I’m not gonna take the right field
because the top 4 teammates are beyond scarey.
Something I don’t understand is why, if DY is telling us the truth and she often received lengthy emails from Terri regarding both Kaine & Kyron. How is it TMH never bothered to inform DY about Kyron’s difficulties and the upcoming Dr. appointment in regard thereto? Seems like that would have been a no-brainer, based on DY’s view of Terri venting to her, etc. If TMH did not inform DY of the appointment, then what would be her reason(s) for not doing so?
@Rose says:
December 8, 2015 at 11:44 pm
Could be, however, were I speaking for a friend, who I knew was exhausted from all the LE interviews and whom had taken multiple LDT’s, who by all rights appeared to be under LE’s scrutiny, I’m pretty sure I’d not throw in something that muddied her water by taking what is my assumption and stating at as “she gave the teacher forms on June 3rd” or whatever. I’d only repeat what that friend actually told me she had done, not some made stuff. IDK.
Sorry, meant to say “made-up” stuff.
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@MbS, you reminded me of the older Skyline student, who recently posted on FB about her observance of Kyron from outside his classroom and how bright he seemed and was always raising his hand to answer questions. Somehow this doesn’t seem to fit Asperger to me, but what do I know. I’m not referring to the how bright he was comment, but tothe wanting to be a part of the class and always raising his hand to answer questions. (I’d have to go find that quote again, but I think that’s what she/he inferred.)
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Anywho, I think the question here is what is the significance, if any, does this information have to do with Kyron’s abduction? If Terri wanted him evaluated in conjunction with his pediatrician, what does this have to do with Kyron’s disappearance?
Is it possible, this is part of the answer to the question of “Why this day?”. The teacher’s responses would have had to be done by the following week, for the appointment, not to mention that school was out after that.
Both DY & KH have explained TMH as being very verbal and as discussing and telling folks via email all sorts of things. Why would she exclude this? Or did she? Who knew about this? Who did she tell? She seemed to be very upfront with the kids as well. Did she tell Kyron he was going to the doctor on June 11 and would be evaluated for something? Who did Kyron tell? One would think she surely would have told her Mom, they seemed very close. Odd to me that no one ever mentioned this. Were they all told not to by LE?
IDK just pondering.
To address the hall complimenter- I have done some checking and I don’t know for sure who the poster is (maybe someone can update me) but I can say with certainty that observation of Ky in his seat would have been impossible from said vantage point.
B
Ha, erose, I’m usually the one “out in left field”. LOL
I think Blink said she was one of the journalists putting “a form” in writing, &
she was just correcting that record. Where the form legend originated is lost in the
MSM past imo.
It seems that from the beginning, any person’s assumptions or misunderstandings about anything concerning TMH are now considered either a cold hard fact (to those who want to kill her without bothering to charge her with a crime), or, considered a lie (to those who hate her because someone else hates her), or, considered a clear indication that everyone’s out to set her up as the fall guy in this case. I’m pretty impressed with how many professional psychiatrists and clinical psychologist on those FB pages have thoroughly assessed TMH in person and know everything about her (snark alert). Also, it’s simply amazing that those FB pages also contain dozens of lawyers who are accurately informing those pages’ supporters about how the case is progressing (supplemental amount of snark).
T. Ruth says:
December 9, 2015 at 11:34 am
@Rose says:
December 8, 2015 at 11:44 pm
Could be, however, were I speaking for a friend, who I knew was exhausted from all the LE interviews and whom had taken multiple LDT’s, who by all rights appeared to be under LE’s scrutiny, I’m pretty sure I’d not throw in something that muddied her water by taking what is my assumption and stating at as “she gave the teacher forms on June 3rd” or whatever. I’d only repeat what that friend actually told me she had done, not some made stuff. IDK.
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The lack of quality reporting on the case makes me think, was the friend interviewed, her statements rushed to press for the scoop, and the reporter took her guess or assumption of recalling what TMH said as an absolute fact? I think that’s been a problem with the poor reporting on the case overall.
I have searched and searched fo Jaymie Finster’s interview in whole But can only find parts
She told all that stuff about Terri we know I didn’t think she was much of a friend at the time
And what she said about Terri has been taken as fact All this time
IMO she was out of line to do that interview tell all about Terri
She has a Face Book page Nothing about Kyron On it
@Malty says:
December 9, 2015 at 7:53 pm
I did the same. I wanted to try to reaffirm what I remembered. I could not find in any interview where she referred to the actual papers. That seems to be only in an interview done with the Oregonian. The videos that I’ve seen don’t mention that at all, they just show JF talking about her life-long friend, saying what a good Mom she was. Here’s the clip I finally found that worked. Nothing is said about TMH giving papers to the teacher.
http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/kyron-horman.htm?mediatype=Video&page=2
I have no idea if it was clipped, but I’m guessing that station would have put out all the video, in the public’s interest. So apparently, the particular part regarding papers being handed to Porter on June 3rd, came from something the O holds on to, because from what I’ve read, that it was first reported. ??????
That link did not play a JF interview for me T. Ruth – but it did remind me how freaking poorly this case has been reported and for the most part the headlines were sensational and unmatching true content.
B
Almost every detail of Terri has been told by first before Terri’s 2nd Ldt by JF. The rest comes from DY and Kaine
Some from Dede
A few others plus the Soldier
And people act like they know every action and fact about this woman.
We really know very little IMO
To address the hall complimenter- I have done some checking and I don’t know for sure who the poster is (maybe someone can update me) but I can say with certainty that observation of Ky in his seat would have been impossible from said vantage point.
B
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Hmmmm, one more interesting tidbit. I don’t recall, however, if that poster ever said what grade Ky was in when she/he was seeing him from the open classroom doorway. I would think it wasn’t Kindergarten from the post, but I’m not sure it wouldn’t have been first grade. I guess I need to take the time to go search for it again. I’m not sure the poster gave any kind of dates or timeline. What intrigued me most about that post, was:
A) The doors to those classroom were wide open.
B) An older student had access to the hallways while classes were on going and had what seems as an ample amount of time sort of hanging out in the hallways to not only peer in on a class, but for long enough to see not only Kyron, (seems like he/she is comparing him) but other children raise their hands and recite. IDK, but just seemed odd to me, and quite possibly another lapse in protocol.
C) The poster seemed to know Kyron. (His reading mentor?, IDK)
Having been refreshed on the specifics (TY Q) as to that post- I think it is more memorial than factual. In no way do I think it is inappropriate or unusual, just someone embellishing a fond and kind memory of missing little boy.
B
@TRuth, in left field and under water. Rain, rain go away…
I just saw that today- wishing you all better weather and safety from its apparent havoc!
B
TRuth says:
December 9, 2015 at 11:30 am
“How is it TMH never bothered to inform DY about Kyron’s difficulties …”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
Maybe she did pass on the pps asset’s observations that week,
followed by “I’ve seen x y and z too, that’s been stuff
that drives me crazy” and such email info sharing was the stuff
of Young’s “severe hatred” label.
Iirc Finster stayed on Kaine’s FB. a friend.
IMO if you say someone and their child can live in your home You should box up your books to make room for them
That story has irritated me a long time
And there are a lot of parents who should have gotten a DUI But were just lucky
https://archive.org/details/WMAR_20100620_120000_ABC_News_Good_Morning_America#start/2160/end/2220
I found this link by googling Jamie Finster. It worked, but you have to hunt for that segment and play picture by picture which is about a minute for each.
This is T.Ruth’s link – same site and interview.
Nothing is said about TMH giving papers to the teacher.
http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/kyron-horman.htm?mediatype=Video&page=2
I just googled
MBS- that snippet went right to JF- it is very truncated as you point out.
Reminds me of the price it seemed everyone paid for not taking the MCSO medicine.
B
It was Good Morning America that JF did the interview She and Terri were in Jr. high together she lists a different HS
I can not find all of the interview and I think there is a reason A lot was said about Terri that actually was her personal look at things All I can find is the nice things she said now and that is good As it should be You have to clean out your FB friends yourself usually however both can unfriend the other I suppose people just forget who never go to their site often or don’t care The friend stuff really means nothing someone asks to be a friend and you accept if you change your mind you go to their site and unfriend I accept only family members anymore
I had others at first And ended up for various reason unfriending them it doesn’t bother me to unfriend but it does some people. All I want is pets and family No names on pets or children
I will check some things later
I find lots of media has been cut Shortened Or the links go no where Same about early opinions