Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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Malty says:
December 15, 2015 at 7:58 am
I see they are also posting to Ellen Rosenblum Attorney general however I see some missing posters
Again
No family or parents of Kyron
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I think DY/Kelley told SG start these posting to the DA and Attorney general. So why aren’t they joining in here? It’s not like the DA and AG aren’t able to guess where this comes from. Makes me wonder what DY and KR have been told to do or NOT do in this case.
I don’t think we will see Kaine posting here since at least one of the HC posters on the Underhill site requests that Kaine should be arrested because he won’t let cadaver dogs on his property. I also believe that Kaine has more information about the case then DY does.
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Amanda Christian to Rod Underhill for Multnomah
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And why hasn’t kaine Horman given permission for cadaver dogs to search his property after he has been asked numerous times? There should be a warrant right there just for him refusing to cooperate in that area. He has said yes to SAR, but NOT to cadaver! Many people that own cadaver has approached him asking to search his property and he deny them. Why?! We want justice and we need answers for this little boy and his mother! Please help this poor family get justice for Kyron Horman. Thanks,
https://www.facebook.com/rodunderhillforda/
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JMO seems like the HC nut cases are sure going after Kaine these days. I wonder what he did or would NOT do to make DY/KR go after him with their Facebook crew.
This is all very interesting I do hope SG and company get something out of MCSO for their efforts. Even if just to set these people straight on some of this stuff. Kaine has probably had to double his security because of recent accusations by the WS site.
And they keep doing so with erroneous info. To say that property has not been searched by canines trained to detect human decomposition is patently false. I am aware (VERIFIED) of 3 occasions, the first of which was the early hours of June 5th when CART hit the ground. This included a room to room search and grounds. Grounds first, as I understand it. Different sweeps using different assets. So once again- why waste your time and effort enmassing people to make a stand with false information when the goal is to be taken seriously? If not Terri then who is the right question, imo. I am sounding like a broken record but I am going to be right. LE and the DA is thankful for the litmus test that they have nothing to worry about if the public thinks all their efforts over 5 plus years is just and still nets the same subject. To get ANYONE to be accountable the way to do that is to ask the obvious questions that lead away from their “mess”.
This is basic 101 red team chit.
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@CD, S-RG Gave her “amen” to SM’s letter, so close enough.
Since I don’t have a law enforcement or criminal justice degree or life experience in those fields, I would think it presumptuous to tell these people *how* to do their jobs, however, if I were a taxpayer or voter in Multnomah County I would think it my right to demand answers.
Why do they feel the need to speak for the family? I like the idea of signing on his page and asking for answers, as it shows support for Kyron and dissatisfaction with LE/DA. I think it crosses the line to suggest *how* they do their jobs and it pretends to know more about the case than the officials (which might be the case), but how would they know.
I appreciate this site because I can give my lay opinions and thoughts, just like I do with my husband at night watching the news, but I wouldn’t go on the President’s FB page and tell him how to fight ISIS/ISIL or presume I know more than he does on the subject.
I so appreciate your post erose. I do not take an ounce of credit for this, but what I am most proud of, is that compassionate and critical thinking advocates hang on the BOC “wire”. In any case I have personally worked on that I could write about in 7 years- this has always mattered and produced irrefutable results. I am humbled at your “nailing it”
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I can’t read Mrs Morris screen shots she posts On her site If they are talking about that timeline of media links
As evidence of some thing I think LE has read all that long ago
We have all been here almost the whole 51/2 years and seen no real evidence coming from that camp
For the first few yrs they claimed to have a gut feeling it was Terri. Only in the past few months have they collected
Some links they call the timeline suppose to prove Terri did it. And Dede helped this timeline they ask people to share all across the US and beyond Is maybe what they think is evidence
Mrs Morris has been very willing to make remarks about BOC Lies And slime She says
We know who she is And her on going hate And her kids.
Asking for the case to be looked at Is OK
And demanding some one be arrested On links and screen shots Is not IMO
Just skimming the posts most seem polite just asking the case be looked at
@CD
It is weird From from LSO Ms Oliver hints of some one hindering this case to to others claiming someone is covering for
Terri and people demanding a warrant to search Kaine’s place
And Mrs Morris screen shots help to the DA
The whole request will probably ignored another 5 yrs
WW Soldier is talking now of getting up a peaceful Stand at MCSO with signs and pics
Go for it First thing that makes sense IMO
I think that is long overdue, personally. The problem with the approach is that they are accusing TH and DDS- and as you all know, DDS has been cleared at a minimum, there is absolutely no ambiguity about that, and as I mentioned previously, DY will face a defamation suit if allegations coming from her ( and I think there is a pretty strong nexus already that is the case) continue. So in reality- they are perpetuating LE’s incompetence here by continually allowing MCSO to hide behind the shroud of TH is guilty and we are just building a case. For the love of Pete- if someone can name me a case that survived 2 grand juries, one empanelled after a no true bill, 7 or 8 investigators it has gone through and 3 DA’s with 2 felony capital allegations and not so much as a parking ticket it takes reasonable people down a different path.
As long as the hater crater continues to beat the very drum LE is hiding behind to do nothing they will .. drumroll please… do nothing. Demanding accountability means just that.
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TY for FB education TRuth.
I bet Underhill’s former campaign FB, now kinda mothballed, is in the hands of a HS intern.
Morris & Green just don’t know how professional & govt workplaces work.
@TRuth. that seems like Stacey’s FB page, oops KHWS, not RUforDA.
Why are both bios in hiding?
If the Soldier would put on her nice side and leave the Terri hate at home and simply ask to have the case reviewed
And nothing else I think it is a good idea Maybe she can do that Maybe not
@Truth yes you can post pics to someone’s timeline You will see the place to post pics or video or comments on the right hand side of Ron’s timeline page
Proud to be on your wire Blink.
Proud we are all wired erose! xo
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@ Erose. Total agree You put it so well We need to just stand solid and ask to have the case reviewed or looked at not tell them we have it solved. Now make an arrest LOL. Hard to believe Some of these people and how they
think
What stands out loud at this point is where is the family and parents
2 Greenisms:
–”mcso is stubborn” (niw who tolf her that?) and
–Kafvre was her high school resource officer.
imo peter principle promotions…
@Malty says:
December 15, 2015 at 7:13 pm
Wowser, that’s scary. Were I running for office, there is no way I would let anyone post their own photos on my FB page. (I would assume there’s a way to prevent that.) Imagine what kind of detrimental garbage could be posted on your FB page.
maybe these recently publicized policies of Underhill’s stimulated Frink’s Ex Opinion
http://news.streetroots.org/2015/11/19/rod-underhill-and-da-agenda-reduce-incarceration
Lol, and he was not in attendance at Underhill fundraiser…
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T. Ruth says:
December 16, 2015 at 11:32 am
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Regarding photos on someone else’s FB page — if anyone here isn’t a FB user, there are settings that the owner of a page creates that determine what is and is not allowed to be posted on the page by other people. Control is pretty flexible. I have a page, separate from my personal FB, for a non-profit in my town. My personal FB is on total lockdown, however my page’s settings are that I review all photos, vids, and comments before they are visible to anyone else and the public sees the page’s content only after that approval. I have to guess that a person like Mr. Underhill has at least one person reviewing all the material that people post before making any of it visible.
@Truth
Oh I must have have not answered right When you set up your page you decide what to allow on your page
I have photos turned off
I have most things turned off
It is all in the settings Truth.
I also refuse to give much info About anything I had to argue FB on that but that is how it is going be
It is my family site for contacts with family
Frankly I woke up feeling. Uneasy about Kyron and family For some reason
And they have no concept of boundaries, IMO.
Rose says:
December 15, 2015 at 6:30 pm
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Morris & Green just don’t know how professional & govt workplaces work.
@Malty, You made me laugh at 12:40 pm, but you kinda freaked me out at 12:50 pm.
I don’t know but my mind keeps saying things like what if the LE has located Kyron Some place like Mexico
And are working some thing out to get him back and all this stuff is screwing up their efforts
No sign of the parents lately Has me spooked
I am assuming LE has been working this case Not sitting on their butts at all. Because I don’t believe that
I hope if we take on another case That these people are not involved KHWS
I find them just to stressful Bad enough a little boy has went missing With out having this distraction
Of them trying to hang some one all the time !!! iMO
http://portland.metblogs.com/2007/05/29/mike-schrunks-right-hand/
maybe Rees & Underhill are still afraid of Frink and do not want to
offend him directly on a major case by correcting its missteps.
Can’t be due to Fronk’s predeliction for writing criticism in the O, as his
written persuasive skills are weak, so it must be something else. Maybe
Frink’s power derived from unknown figurative bedfellows, either saints
or sinners.
thanks for Belateds. I go with “raw” & am here for others’ insight.
raw requires hefty moderation.
lol. The O piece on Frink is not there fyi.
B
Bet mcso’s quality of “investigator” (seasoned river patrol
& former school resource officers)
woukdn’t say a word to cross Frink’s theory of the case. They would
all needed him to clear them in a GJ in the event they
shot someone. Sounds to me like the whole Terri did
it crusade was a Frink creation, seeking to retire in a
blaze of glory on a big case.
He looks like a real piece of work imo.
When I have heard the antics that went on from multiple persons he came into contact with in this case that I was able to confirm through their representation have never been in contact with each other at any time during or since, and they say the same things I stand in my opinion he volunteered his law license as a result. That said, he followed through on every threat he leveraged. Fancifully- what I have given to see him square off with Houze.
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Soldier says Rod Underhill has shut off his site to posts. She is not happy
Underhill Site Now they are posting on the main page anywhere they can get a post And not so nice this time
Soldier group talking of sending Rod Undehill Christmas cards Most of these people do not vote in Oregon
And that’s a fact.
Hi Blink,
I see you and yours are still very hard at it…can’t help but admire the dedication, the depth and the intelligence…
Just wanted to wish you and yours (as well as all the Blinksters)a very Merry Christmas and offer prayers and a wish for peace for the victims and their loved ones.
Thank you kind Sir- I second your lovely wishes and return them to you and yours.
Best
B
Malty says:
December 17, 2015 at 11:26 am
Soldier says Rod Underhill has shut off his site to posts. She is not happy
I am not surprised
IMO The only people who will get taken seriously in the effort to advance Kyron.s case are the bio parents and families. Desiree needs to give up the photo ops,(BS) interviews trashing Terri and open a dialogue with MCSO and Oregon officials.
While I share your fancy, imo if Frink could’ve gotten a GJ to indict, Terri would have absolutely been convicted Houze or no Houze. Any Oregon jury made up of ordinary persons would want to see a conviction for this heinous kidnapping hung on SOMEONE, anyone, as outcome as badly as Soldiers. Imo no matter the exculpatory evidence, if Frink could bring Terri to trial, a few tears ftom Desiree and she’d be a gonner imo.
It occurs to me the only actual “evidence of a crime to Kyron” are eyewitness accounts of SZ.
Even then if unidentified there are no John Doe indictments in place.
To your point DY and KH testified before GJ 1. I am at a loss on how anyone could build a case that a child who previously ventured outside and on grounds is a crime victim by the virtue of not locating him.
I think if not for Houze TH would be in jail on either or both and if not for falling ill Rackner would have been sanctioned by the bar, not a private admonishment.
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cd says:
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December 17, 2015 at 12:41 pm
JMO
I also think It’s going to be hard for anyone official to take SG and her Facebook friends seriously because
SG’s site is NOT the “Find out what happened to Kyron Horman” site
NOR is it “the Justice for Kyron Horman site”
SG’s site IS the “I think Terri took Kyron so lets taunt her make her life miserable until she talks site and BTW slander DDS and KH also”.
Her’s is the site that prints pictures of Terri calling her names claims DDS is a lesbian because she has large hands, tells people Terri has an STD, Terri painted her car green, writes DDS is trying to kidnap children in Klamath Falls and so on.
@malty. per KHWS, “myself and another great supporter are working on a letter” for the next Kampaign phase after the holidays. Hopefully “AGS” co-writer has the pronoun grammer skills Soldier is short on.
Yet not one obvious question- why is any of this being done in lieu of this childs parents?
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@CD
As I see it you just can’t demand the DA arrest some one
The second thing is so many of these posters say they are from another state Including the Soldier
None of these people are related to Kyron Not even the the Soldier no matter how much she loves Kyron
She has never met him
No family members taking part in any of this
@Rose when you get time to read . There is some unbelievable posts if you haven’t already Been reading
Flooding the DA with Christmas cards about all this Can you believe that one LOL
What gets me is the posters on KHWS Telling the Soldier how wonderful she is to work so hard for Kyron
And she responds Why Thank You.
I have to say this. If this was not a serious case about a child missing I would find that Soldier one of the most comical and pathetic characters I ever ran into
IKR.. Intentionally withholding a slew of hilarious snark responses. I am referring to my *years earlier* assertion I am funnier than smart. Thank you Malty.
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Yet not one obvious question- why is any of this being done in lieu of this childs parents?
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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments
I’d say despite their very bereft loss, both bios may have gotten enough benefits (positives) than negatives from his loss. I don’t think that would affect Desiree who would want Kyron back in her home in a heartbeat. So imo her reason somehow relates to her issues or Tony’s direction. For Kaine tho, Kyron’s absense offered him so much on the positive ledger, he has zero incentive imo to advance the investigation.
Soldier’s recent tangent is still DeDe & Terri in a side by side.
is Desiree still Soldier’s General & thus directing, indirectly, the letter-writing Kampaign to Underhill & Rosenblum?
My suggestion is WW hire Pitkin for a freelance interview of The Soldier to get at the bottom of her operating instructions, or psychosis, whichever it is.
@Malty. I keep in mind every Soldier has a General.
The General is a puzzle to me.
How does Desiree structure her time these days?
The addresses are posted for Underhill Staton and Nancy Grace If people want to write their own letters
Other wise we can wait for the letter created by KHWS
Hypothetical scene (setting down large pasta bowl filled with angel hair pasta swimming in garlic butter sauce):
Man asks if little boy can help him move things from his vehicle into the school building and teacher says yes because teacher thinks she knows the guy or thinks the guy knows the boy and the boy looks like he might know the guy and in that .000332501 of a second, a really, realy bad decision (letting Kyron help the man) is made.
Kyron gets hurt outside helping man. Bad hurt. As in “slips under vehicle that moves slightly to roll over boy” hurt. Any number of serious injuries can be used in this scenario. The guy backs up his car/truck and doesn’t see little Kyron standing too close and getting knocked down. Etc., etc.
Man panics, sees his future destroyed due to accidental death or permanent disability of someone else’s child, and takes Kyron off school property in his vehicle. Tragic stupid awful judgement.
There was a case here of a woman finding her baby dead (SIDS, confirmed later) in the infant’s crib one morning, panicking because she believed that she would be accused of child abuse and murder, etc., and she buries the baby in a plot of woods behind her apartment complex. She then reports that her baby has been kidnapped. She goes to the trouble of mailing herself one of her baby’s mittens in a manila envelop to give police the impression that someone has her child and is sending a “signal.” She was busted for that. This was way back in the 80′s.
Any possibility….any at all…that Kyron was hurt outside the school and this is a case of a very terrified person successfully hiding out all these years who never reported the accident?
nelmel- I can’t speak to the 80′s incident without a name or a link, but overwhelmingly babies with an attributable COD of SIDS parents do not stage the incident but call for help- ESPECIALLY prior to development of a more rigorous ME protocol.
To your point, which I think was a forward thinking jump off point from my earlier comments this week on the fact that technically, there is no crime established outside of SZ, and Kyron WAS located outside of grounds during the school day in a previous incident- I think the search grids and assets used within the perimeter should be subject to public review.
While not an absolute- it might be, depending upon it’s contents. Follow the arrow to the big green curtain and knock on the door. The man behind it will be right with you.
*snark alert*
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If the DA is getting cyber stalked over the Kyron Horman investigation then IMO he is getting his just deserts.
I think the DA is his own worst enemy here. MCSO and the Mult Co DA via the media convinced everyone Terri attempted a Murder For Hire against Kaine, and that she somehow disappeared Kyron, and DDS helped her with the kidnapping crime.
Judges issued restraining orders and took away Terri’s daughter. Over the years the Oregon judicial system has continued rule against Terri whenever there was a legal issue. So 5 1/2 years later after telling us via the bio’s and media they had all the evidence they need to convict terri. What happened?
No arrest or suspects not even saying they have a person of interest in Kyron’s case. Its no wonder people are saying what happened. MCSO says this is a slam dunk case then 5 1/2 later nothing? Thats NUTS!
With every year that goes by in this case the perceived level of incompetence of MCSO and the DA increases. MCSO needs to man up and tell people whats going on.
They cleared DDS so tell people already so no one is waiting for her to be arrested and wondering why not.
Investigating the MFH LE realized that they did not have enough evidence to arrest Terri because their only witness (after further questioning) may have been biased/unclear in his testimony . So they are not able to charge anyone with MFH or even declare a crime was committed. just SAY SO already!
After an intense investigation LE still does not even know what happened to Kyron and there is no clear evidence that points to the identification of any person involved in his disappearance( and that includes Terri).
Clinging to the “we have all the evidence we need” and “we have investigative leads” mantra and not making any arrests(or even naming suspects) makes MCSO look like a bunch of idiots in the public eye.
Just fess up and tell the truth already. For everyones sake. (Bio’s, Public, and victims of stalking and false accusations). Its like taking your medicine its gonna be unpleasant at first but will enable faster healing in the end.
By all means they should keep working on the case and If MCSO ever does figure out what happened to Kyron then people will be content with their answers and not expecting unrealistic outcomes based on media BS.
I hope Oregon LE has found out as the Colorado LE did in the Ramsey case that trying your case in advance using the media is not smart way to handle an investigation and can backfire.
Since Soldier also advised to write Rosenblum, Atty Gen,
I went to her facebook & see it is undiscovered as yet,
but I found this page which seems like a big Oregon AG joke:
http://www.doj.state.or.us/consumer/Pages/facebook_safety.aspx
@Rose In answer to that last post Dear friend. We have never agreed on who is the Soldier’s. General
I am not sure who the General. Is Kelly ? Papa?
Family vote?
But I don’t think it is DY. Yet. Maybe one day I will see it different. And agree
@Rose The only leaders I can see are Papa and Tony but you are beyond sharp about stuff so don’t worry about my opinions I change opinions often LOL
@ Rose says:
December 18, 2015 at 12:08 am
“I keep in mind every Soldier has a General.
The General is a puzzle to me.”
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I suspect the General is highly influenced by the MKH page admin, Beth G. She lost her stepsister to a heinous High School murder, and then went on a very public hate campaign to keep the convicted killer behind bars, and if that didn’t work (it didn’t) she would make sure his life was living hell outside of prison after fulfilling his sentence.
The HC campaign has all the same trademarks her media flush had. And being she is THE MAIN voice on the MKH page, and close pals with DY, I suspect she manipulated DY’s fragile state of mind to take this course of action. She is the one that read DY’s personal message at the WoH at one of the Anniversary media hype pressers. She has her own agenda of judicial revenge and has IMO mixed the cases with her own personal issues.
None of which has been helpful in Finding Kyron First.
@Rose I was checking when our elected run out I see Underhill runs out Dec2016 So I doubt if he wants this hassle If he is running again Some one else may run his site and he never even saw any of those posts
I had to laugh when the Soldier wrote Do we need a different DA As if she is a voter in Mult co
@Rose today the Soldier posted Terri how does it feel that so many people love Kyron and so many people hate
You. Not a quote but close
thatkewlgirl says:
December 18, 2015 at 11:59 am
@ Rose says:
December 18, 2015 at 12:08 am
“I keep in mind every Soldier has a General.
The General is a puzzle to me.”
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I suspect the General is highly influenced by the MKH page admin, Beth G. She lost her stepsister to a heinous High School murder, and then went on a very public hate campaign to keep the convicted killer behind bars, and if that didn’t work (it didn’t) she would make sure his life was living hell outside of prison after fulfilling his sentence.
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Maybe Beth is taking it out on Terri since her guy got out of prison 16 years early despite her efforts.
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http://katu.com/news/local/rapist-and-murderer-conrad-engweiler-released-16-years-early-10-27-2015
http://www.kptv.com/story/25480625/local-family-fights-to-keep-convicted-killer-behind-bars