Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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I wonder if DY has came up to Portland and seen Staton or Underhill or is she going to her friendly local
Police and getting them to make a call up here for info On the case
interesting audio.
imo Kaine began being deceptive at #2:26.
He has a surer tone re his scedule after 7:45 am.
Desiree says they got no info re Terri from LE.
She hadn’t even known about the grocery but for Terri.
She or her ally sure dished the ping story secondhand to the press.
can you refresh our recollection exactly who was arrested the day before?
Brian Paul Casey Jackson ( or permutations between middle names-from memory) I see you posted my links upthread, thank you very much. I will accessing my previous DB to answer your question about his actual punishment next comment.
B
Underhill closed his FB? So now he gets to look forward a plethora of Christmas greetings containing boring Christmas letters. LOL
Malty says:
December 20, 2015 at 10:44 pm
I don’t see the Soldier’s. 2016 bring Kyron home. Write letters to Unerhill Staton and Nancy Grace
It must be over??? Or just gone until after Christmas. ?
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IMO
I don’t know about Nancy Grace but if Rod U. tried to block their Facebook posts and then shut down his Facebook just to avoid Soldiers cyber stalking what would ever make SG believe that he would read any or take seriously any letter she wrote.
I think until the inquiry comes from the bio parents SG is not going to get any traction from NG or any LE in Oregon.
@Truth
Missed you Yes I don’t feel he has to play nice About it What would the Donald do I think it is the season of rude politics. And every one seems to like it
Every thing fine with you ?
the question before why (to the gym) ie to remove a stash from premises,
or who he interfaced with, is which gym?
Kaine’s membership & regular useage was 24 Hr at that time, the one Briede was fired from in
2009 after many years there (was firing associated with steroids distribution? would explain
his public trashing if Terri & support of Kaine alienating her child). Or was it the very recently opened Briede-owned gym? Iirc Briede had financial issues in 2009 as well (motive fir iffy sales imo).
Puts a whole new spin on LE telling the Hormans: Go to the gym.
Ironic that she got that criticism.
That and the fact that Kaine had “responses indicating deception” and was told his test was inconclusive. I would think that is a pretty huge ommission. I wonder if he ever shared that info with DY. I got the impression she was not aware of it during that interview.
B
I listened to the recording but don’t seem to find anything about the 5:am gym Kaine says he left at 7:45 for work
I am confused
You are not confused at all Malty- he does not mention it. He never does until 2014.
B
Interesting Kaine began attending (after the abduction) and publically indirectly
advertising in his interviews in the press (in association with the abduction aftermath) Briede’s newly
opened gym. Switched from his gym of years to the Mgr’s who was fired. Some loyalty. What induces that loyalty?
low price, or hot babes, or a mutual need for silence & support?
Blink Not until 2014 really Doesn’t that seem really strange Kind of like DY didtnt knew about Terri going to Fred Myers.
When she has had varying statements regarding unaccounted for time on THs behalf, yes.
For me, outside of what I have already stated- listening to that interview at the end of July 2010- I had forgotten that DY expresses shock that the reporter says “the rumor is that TH and DDS met up that day” DY responds with “Do you have a source for that?” Interesting.
One thing I wish to be very clear- to my knowledge, from more than one verified source, there are at least three recreations of TH travels that day she participated in with LE, and all of them were recorded with her permission. That travel was also mapped with accompanying receipts and I am aware of at least one stop that has been withheld to date. I don’t know if it has been withheld from the bios, but definitely the public.
Not only does it verify her timeline to the minute- but what I find incredulous is how very little time was spent discussing the timeline the day before- which, in my mind as an investigator is equally as important. If I am perpetrating a crime with SZ, and I am not a practiced criminal sophisticate- isn’t this “dry run” day? I recall LE asking for video and pics or whatever to include certain routes for both days, but I wonder if they had been asked if they would have admitted Kiara was at the pediatrician that day (6/3).
B
LOL the Soldier is urging Mult Co.voters To vote The girl should have worked to get Mult voters on her Team a long time ago but she learning
Is learning.
Here is Blink’s review of steroid players, including Jackson’s Fed arrest on June 3 for ceasing cooperation with FBI who wanted him to name other officers he sold to:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/
this article says Jackson was arraigned Fri afternoon June 4 after arrest at his worksite in Beaverton. It implies the arrest was Fri morning to me, but he could’ve been held in jail overnight. If he was so threatened by local officers in the preceding couple weeks he would take Fed charges rather than name names, and Kaine was involved with him to the extent Kaine could also identify those officers, then likely Kaine received the same precusor deterrent warnings from involved LE. No wonder Kaine won’t cross LE now and demand case progress or a transfer to the FBI. He could still lose his own & kiara’s lives. No wonder he made Kristen’s daughter accompany him in target practice. I thought it was just to get close to a yungun. Unwise that Kristen put daughters in his home with a threat out there requiring target practice.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-city/index.ssf/2010/06/oregon_city_man_faces_federal_charges_in_indictment_stemming_from_canby_police_corruption_case.html
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ratting out officers so terrified this man he was ready to accept the Fed book thrown at him.
“stopped cooperating with an ongoing FBI investigation looking into his sale of steroids to other law enforcement officers.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2013/06/former_steroid_supplier_now_ac.html
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Last sentence:
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2014/06/former_canby_detective_alleges.html
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wonder why Kroepln never faced Federal charges of some sort
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianextra/2009/04/report_excanby_police_chief_li.html
maybe DOJ attorneys were not on the same page as the FBI wrt prosecutions
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Traverso’s real issue of several years was meth.
Deaver’s steroid stuff goes back to 2001 anyway.
@Blink. what sentence did Brian Jackson
get on Oct 3 2011 for his 2 little federal charges?
if you know without effort.
3 years probation with a sealed statement of reasons so you can bet your bippy Jackson ended up cooperating, and that led to the indictments dated 11/7/2013.
B
I sm sure if Rod Underhill is running for another 4yrs he will have his candidate page redone and back up shortly
Best to go with no posting IMO
which hotshot reporter wrested that gym trip info from him in 2014 and Failed to Follow Up?
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Was Terri used to his catting out at 4 or 5 am to the gym?
on Friday morning, She’s handling teething/earache kiara and Kyron
who has a strange demanding school day (plus
breakfasts & a lunch packing) all alone? No wonder
DY said Terri was mad. And trudging on, she’s the only
parent figure taking the Sci Fair tour with Kyron.
So if Desiree has been misled that ZKaine’s
early am gym trip was related to an affair, as I for
example believed, did her LE husband steer
her away from the LE Steroid case doings focus wrt Kaine
and the abduction?
(I’m sorry – I never did well with short answers to questions.)
Blink says -
I sincerely appreciate you sharing that about your grandson MBS. I have to believe with the interaction between TH and Porter, the fact that TH is trained to monitor/manage elementary level child behavior and one of her best friends was a special ed teacher working with children diagnosed with a variety of spectral disorders there was certainly enough present to begin the evaluation process. It is my understanding the age of 7 is fairly late for that- is that yours?
B
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Yes and no.
In our case, an unusual form of speech disfluency led us to speech services when he was just under 2 years old. The speech therapist pointed out other things we had not noticed because we did not work with kids, or in my case, kids under 7 years old.
Immediate response – Oh, no, he’s broken. Second response – of course, he’s not, he’s a wonderful toddler. Third response – what do we do next – we push for services and learn what to do at home.
We went as far as we could with speech, then an occupational therapist took over for help with sensory issues, joint attention, following a finger point, noticing faces, looking at a parent’s face to see if a stranger is OK, teaching us what to do at home, and more. We took him to restaurants where there were a lot of kids and compared what they did to his behaviors – not exactly standard research, but it works. I remember the day we watched an even younger child in a noisy restaurant. The child watched the waitress come to the table, the waitress spoke to the child, the child immediately turned away and looked at dad’s face and saw he was smiling, then she looked back at the waitress’s face and smiled. We had never seen my grandson do that, yet it’s a natural developmental skill. (He developed a great English accent though.)
So I am of the opinion that we can discover many more problems that we could help children with at a very early age, whether we label them with a diagnosis or not. However, the way it works around here is generally (1) if parents think a child younger than school age needs to be evaluated, the county education service will do that. If a child is in foster care, an evaluation is required by the state whether there are indications of need or not. If a child goes to school and problems are first noticed there, then an evaluation process might start there – but not necessarily if the school thinks the child is making appropriate progress in school anyway and does not need help (read “don’t spend money”).
We saw a developmental pediatrician several times. She said she doesn’t usually make a diagnosis of Asperger’s (at that time) or autism spectrum until about 3rd grade or age 8. She did verify that he needed help in specific areas and she did say if we needed a specific diagnosis to get insurance to pay for treatment, she would provide that and if it proved to be unnecessary later, it could be dropped or changed. Based on his behavior, we had autism specialists consult with his teachers every year, but we did not get a formal evaluation until he was 8. We knew he would need it later and we saw that he wasn’t changing some of his behaviors so would need accommodations such as more time taking tests. That general timeline doesn’t seem to be unusual around here, at least.
In Kyron’s case, because so much of what my family saw was related to visual cues and prompts, I have thought some of what could have been noticed earlier for Kyron WAS noticed by Terri, at least, but possibly attributed to his poor vision. It may have taken awhile for anyone to notice that there were issues that either didn’t go away with corrective lenses or that needed to be taught because he missed the developmental age to pick them up naturally. I also believe Terri was the only one watching him that closely. Both bios likely thought that any little thing she described or tried to explain was just Terri making a big deal about nothing. Even the most caring, involved parents may need to hear explanations from an expert and have key behaviors pointed out to them, so I’m pretty certain Terri would have been ignored or given an argument. She would have gotten nowhere without enlisting the specialists.
If someone was concerned about Kyron’s behavior reflecting something hidden and abusive in his life, enough to abduct him, it wouldn’t have been Terri, it would have been someone who didn’t understand what she was going for in pushing for an eval. Of course, a random abduction wouldn’t reflect any of that.
I think other countries – Australia, United Kingdom – are probably doing better with early interventions than we are. Last I heard there were studies being done with 6 month old babies to determine if a test could be developed based on eye movements. It’s hard because there are natural variations in developmental timelines, but I personally think a well-trained person could recognize a lot of these issues around the age of 2 or 3 at least – enough for the beginning of the evaluation process – not necessarily a pediatrician in a ten minute visit. In my opinion, Asperger’s is one of the most misunderstood, underappreciated, misdiagnosed, and elegant disorders children can have.
I don’t know why I find this discussion so touching MBS, but thank you again for sharing.
I could not agree with you more based on my very limited experience and knowledge base.
B
anyone –
Am I correct that TY did not have any children of his own?
Was he married before?
No kids and divorced once previously, I believe to a fellow officer, iirc. Would be interesting to recall the date of that separation/divorce.
B
Blink, Not sure why my 11.20.15 @ 11:09 pm post is still in moderation, but when Moulin, who worked with Medford PDC beginning in ’09, “face[d] official misconduct and computer-crime charges alleging he knowingly altered or damaged a police computer or software in 2012″ he was published on child exploitation protocol in Oregon. What possible altering or damage could have been done, and doesn’t it call into question his motivation, and why did this publication date coincide with with the computer-crime charges?
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Multidisciplinary Team Protocol for Child Exploitation
Josh Moulin
January 2012
This document discusses a child abuse multidisciplinary team (MDT) approach to handling technology-facilitated crimes against children. Technology crimes against children have different complexities to them than traditional sex abuse cases against children; mostly involving digital evidence and the ongoing exploitation of a child once evidence is posted to the Internet. This protocol helps address some of the specific issues with these crimes.
Authors:
Josh Moulin, MSISA, CISSP
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshmoulin
You’re up erose. Very interesting he is still under contract with the folks that tried to prosecute him? Do I have that right? Just as an fyi on his linked in. I suppose he is aware of Fed rules and protocols- but as I am familiar with them, nobody I know who contracts with a Fed agency who has granted them clearance is allowed to advertise either point. In other words- I have been told publicly stating a TS clearance is grounds for losing it. I am certified in legal investigation to include eDiscovery and evidence analysis (disclosure). What it sounds like to me from the earlier articles is the intake procedures for the laptop (and likely network)were not followed. Basically, if a mirror of the hard drive is not made during the verified chain of custody handling it is useless for evidentiary purposes on it’s own.
I certainly hope this dude is legit- it is critically important work.
B
May 12, 2015
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A judge has thrown out the criminal case against the former head of the Southern Oregon High-Tech Crimes Task Force charged with computer crimes, ruling that investigators’ “blatant disregard” of computer-investigation protocols destroyed evidence in the case.
However, the city considered that some of [judge] Ravassipour’s language in the ruling was “surprising and contrary to our internally held opinions,” according to the city’s statement.
“The City believes all involved employees acted in good faith and conducted themselves in an appropriate manner throughout the entire three-year duration of this case,” according to the statement.
She [Moulin's Attorney] said Moulin admitted to deleting some personal information, such as family computer passwords and bank information, before turning the computer over to Central Point, and that would have been proven had the computer not been opened.
The felony charge alleged that Moulin knowingly altered, damaged or destroyed a computer or software, while the misdemeanor charge alleged that he knowingly used, accessed or attempted to access a computer, software or data on a system.
The official misconduct charge alleged that Moulin illegally used his position as a public servant while committing those alleged crimes, according to the indictment.
The task force was disassembled in July 2014, but investigators from several local, state and federal agencies still consult collectively on cases.
http://www.mailtribune.com/article/20150512/NEWS/150519829
click on comments
Sgt. Josh Moulin: Computer Forensics and Child Exploitation
http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/sgt-josh-moulin-computer-forensics-and-child-exploitation/
FBI? Meet Lt. Josh Moulin of the FBI Cyber Crimes Task Force, by way of the Southern Oregon High-Tech Crimes Task Force. “Eighty percent of what my unit does is child exploitation,” Josh says, and then gives us some statistics. Thirteen percent of infants and toddlers are abused. Josh has seen photos and videos of infants under the age of one being penetrated by an adult male. Offenders average 13.5 victims each, and Josh’s unit apprehended one perpetrator with 180,000 unique porn images on his computer. “I have ten guys,” Josh says. “I could have thirty and we still couldn’t keep up with what’s going on.”
http://stabenow.com/2011/11/
Good stuff Erose
Think that recording. With Kaine and DY had lots real interesting Info
I liked they really didn’t know Dede well she only came around about every 6 months DY didn’t seem to know her
I liked that all they said they knew was listening to Terri talk Not info from LE.
I try to image going to some ones home and getting into The bottles of drinks with out getting caught
Or taking a bottle home More than once hard to believe. With liquor stores every where. I doubt anyone would testify to that in court So many of the Terri stories Sound like just talk. Not witness in court stuff
Interestingly, KH intimates this occurs as a mystery. He was there- is it him? And it is in stark contrast – let me escalate that to a contradiction to his subsequent filings about her passed out on the couch drunk- as I said when I read the motion then- by his own words in interviews that never happened. I wonder which friends he was referring to, btw, probably the same ones that TH was turning in for roids.
B
Looking at Southern Oregon LE Great Idea.
Well, the comments on Medford interim police chief article said some dealt meth.
Now Traverso was a years-long methhead. Maybe he traded those steroids he
dealt to some officer for the latter’s meth.
Rose says:
December 21, 2015 at 2:29 pm
the question before why (to the gym) ie to remove a stash from premises,
or who he interfaced with, is which gym?
That and the fact that Kaine had “responses indicating deception” and was told his test was inconclusive. I would think that is a pretty huge ommission. I wonder if he ever shared that info with DY. I got the impression she was not aware of it during that interview.
B
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Maybe that is why DY and friends seem to have started a campaign of creating suspicion about what they think might be the reason Kaine will not allow searches on his property. I would think if SG knew about this then she would have been outright accusing Kaine of being involved in Kyron’s disappearance.
IMO
Either DY did not know about Kaine’s inconclusive LDT or DY knew about it but did not tell SG so SG would keep her focus on Terri. There are probably quite a few things which DY has not revealed to SG.
McGeary County Counsel is the most popular amongst County Bar for a judgeship,
http://m.mailtribune.com/article/20130814/News/308140332
yet, Kitzhaber passes him over for one ugly DDA who had not registered on the Bar richter scale:
http://m.mailtribune.com/article/20130917/News/309170325
and who seems btw to most likely have been the DDA behind initiating the 2012 ff casebuilding against and prosecution of Moulin:
“Peterson is assigned to the Southern Oregon High Tech Crimes Task Force, and has been responsible for prosecuting technology-facilitated crimes. He also is designated as a special assistant United States attorney for the District of Oregon, specializing in the prosecution of child exploitation crimes in federal ”
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/crime/2015/05/13/judge-dismisses-computer-crime-charges-against-officer/27241589/
“deviated from established policy and did so
***in bad faith, …***
“This is not a case where a lay person negligently turned a computer on; this is a case where trained forensics examiners blatantly disregarded all protocols and training and went on a fishing expedition in a forensically unsound manner,” Ravassipour wrote in her decision.”
Imo these 2 were fishing to see if Moulin had any evidence on them or theirs:
“…..the search by city IT specialist Jeff McJunkin and Klamath Falls Police Department Detective Mike Anderson was conducted before Moulin was subject to a criminal investigation.”
Perhaps O/T perhaps not- I am familiar with a PD I worked with that had officers looking at legal porn, but on the job. I was told that is a major reason most PD’s have changed protocol on the shared cpu’s. This was a detective unit. None of it was case related.
B
IIRC, Kaine Horman never mentioned the gym that morning, in ANY of the many interviews done by various reporters until his appearance on Dr. Phil. (Makes me wonder if DY had ever heard about it before then?) I pointed out before, he also never mentions where Terri was that morning and what she was doing before she allegedly took his son to school to have him kidnapped. I’ve also said, more than once, the man speaks with forked tongue. I too believe he has been deceptive, but the question remains, Why?
During one interview Mr. Horman mentioned that the morning of June 4, was normal. Yet, in another interview he states he misses walking Kyron to the bus every morning. Obviously, there is a discrepancy there, either he left for work earlier than usual on June 4, because he left well before the bus would have arrived. Or he always left for work at that time and was exaggerating about walking Kyron to the bus every morning. And, similarly, why did it take months before Kaine Horman mentioned that he was with Terri at the bus stop on the afternoon of June 4? Was it because it was unusual for him to do so?
He’s given the reporters conflicting testimony about other things as well, for instance Terri’s possible PPD. Once, he states he has no idea whether she’s taking meds, and that’s between her and her doctor. Then in another interview he stated her doctor asked HIM to keep an eye on her. WTH?
Anywho, just chiming in on those points.
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The steroid issue is bringing me back to the alleged two vehicles, red mustang and white truck, racing around SI that morning. Dumping evidence perhaps? What vehicle did BB drive back then? Who else owned a white Ford F250? Some cop on roids maybe? What time that morning was Jackson taken into custody? Does it coincide with the timing of the speeding SI vehicles?
Hey, guys, I’ve been pretty busy with Christmas stuff, but I’ve been trying to at least keep up on your reading. Carry on and Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays to all. May 2016 be a year of revelation for this case.
Oh, and I’m glad Underhill got a taste of the personal invasion TMH has been putting up with for over five years from the HC. IMO, it was unprofessional and quite foolish to allow people to post “whatever” to his own FB Campaign Pages in the first place. Kinda’ shows me how uninformed and unaware these folks (LE) may be on what really goes on out there in “Social” Media.
T.Ruth- just tossing this out there- Kyron was driven to school on 6/4- so that may be the reference.
I would also note that in Kaines “speaking part” of the press conf he specifically thanks busdrivers. In my view- Kaine was saying that in Terri’s defense. At that juncture, although he was well aware that (her words) LE held her as suspect- Kaine did not.
Why is this important? Because Ky’s busdriver statement clearly and unambiguously clears TH from the perspective that she saw TH and Kiara leave without Kyron, at the time TH has always maintained. DY is aware of that.
I can tell you that in general it is my experience eDiscovery is a foreign concept to most career LE as well as career DAs.
B
Southern Or High Tech Crimes Task Force implies much more than child exploitation as Josh’s capability and mission.
Implies any crimes for which use of the internet was a component, say use of email in furtheranceof a conspiracy.
Includes dealing in drugs (ie placing orders online for products from China).
No wonder Josh had to erase his passwords & personal data from his laptop.
Glad he is safely in the bowels of fbi employment.
It is clear he wanted no Jackson Cty brother in blue to know his whereabouts when he left town.
Troublesome the local DA was collusive with his prosecution with tainted evidence. And it seems to have been trumped up charges.
Wasn’t it the month after 11/7/13 when Kaine agreed to the divirce stipulation?
Why yes Rose, it was.
B
@mbs. appreciate your story and totally on board with your analysis.
Dr Phil totally wasted his bite at the apple wrt the bios.
How I wish Terri had been on stage with them to discuss Kyron himself as the focus.
Imo both bios had big vested interests in disabling her from ANY public speech
about him and his needs.
I think he got what he paid for, paid well for.
B
would be good to know something about Tony’s ex.
Married 8 mos before = never spent a family summer with
Kyron before.
I believe the Summer of 2009 was split in half, and the intention was to do the same in 2010. Both DY and KH are on record that Kyron faced some adjustment issues over separation – pretty common in a 7 year old. Moreover though- if one is making the case that siblings should not be separated it takes that motive out of the equation, imo.
B
Blink, My understanding is that Moulin works as a national defense defense contractor for the federal government [Nevada] since he was placed on leave in 2012 from the task force he founded in Oregon. The reason I posted him is that he was running the regional cyber forensic lab when Kyron was abducted, and that region included Portland and Medford. I posted that he claimed 80% of his work was in child exploitation. From what I can gather, all computer, tech forensics in Kyron’s case would have gone thru his lab, as well as any potential cyber finds.
Why his department accused him of misconduct and why the lab was eventually shut down will never really be known as the case was dropped. The blogger/rumor mill is split about who is corrupt, Moulin or the department. He has numerous articles posted on Lee Loftland’s site, The Graveyard Shift.
I have no opinion yet, just curious about this coinciding with Kyron’s case, and TY’s department.
http://www.joshmoulin.com/about-josh-moulin/
Agreed.
I wonder if the closure has anything to do with the State v Fed child porn decision a few years back- not in a position to look it up now but I recall it ended a case for Rees and the Feds picked it up. Storm maybe?
B
That and the fact that Kaine had “responses indicating deception” and was told his test was inconclusive. I would think that is a pretty huge ommission. I wonder if he ever shared that info with DY. I got the impression she was not aware of it during that interview.
B
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First time I’ve ever read this information.
Interesting.
Strictly going from public statements over the time period- I got the sense that this information was what caused the dissention between DY and KH as discussed on Dr. Philluptohere. DY said more than once that Kaine should stop lying and tell the truth.
In other words, between that interview date and their joint appearance on Phillibuster she learned about his poly and it became (things LE told us we can’t say, we can only say things TH told us). To say anything other than his test is inconclusive on his part as told to him by LE would be disingenuous or a fabrication depending on context.
Here’s the rub- I have zero faith in that poly examiner or the interview strategy used so I do not give it any more weight than TH’s. Well, except for maybe the part that KH is not hearing impaired and TH is.
In a nutshell folks- DY theory is that KH affair was the impetus for TH secreting or harming Kyron out of fear he would get custody of Kiara because of the sibling issue (mentioned in pleadings). I am aware this is incongruent and makes no sense since she moved James to her parents and changed his last name and doing so certainly weakened any argument of sibling importance but not much I have heard or seen since June 2010 pointing only at TH does. I am on record I do not think Kaine is culpable in whatever happened to Kyron but that is based on the same weight I hold for TH. I have never seen a scintilla of evidence to suggest he was. That said- if we are assessing known theory here- technically Kaine had WAY MORE motive than TH and I have no idea how he is cleared with the names of people written on checks from his account ultimately going to prison for illegal steroid manuf and other.
B
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Southern Oregon High-Tech Crimes Task Force Attains Accreditation
It has been a while since I have blogged for Lee, and part of the reason behind that is because I have spent the last year working on getting our forensics laboratory accredited. I thought I would provide some information about lab accreditation in this blog.
On July 17th 2009 the Southern Oregon High-Tech Crimes Task Force attained the prestigious American Society of Crime Laboratory Directors Laboratory Accreditation Board (ASCLD/LAB) Accreditation and joined the ranks of some of the most premier digital evidence forensics laboratories in the world.
After over a year of dedicated hard work and preparation, the Southern Oregon High-Tech Crimes Task Force (SOHTCTF) achieved their accreditation for the Digital and Multimedia Discipline in both the computer and video forensic sub disciplines. There are 97 different quality standards applicable for digital forensics laboratories that are rated as Essential, Important or Desirable. The task force complied with 100% of the Essential, 92% of Important (only 75% required), and 94% of Desirable (only 50% required).
*****The SOHTCTF is the only standalone local law enforcement digital evidence forensics laboratory to be accredited by the ASCLD/LAB legacy program in the world.***** The SOHTCTF joins only 54 other laboratories in the world that are accredited to perform some aspect of forensic analysis on digital evidence.
The SOHTCTF was first created by the City of Central Point Police Department in 2005 and in *****2007 was joined by personnel from the City of Medford Police Department.***** The SOHTCTF is a regional, multijurisdictional task force performing cyber crime investigations and digital evidence forensics for approximately ******30***** federal, state and local law enforcement agencies throughout Oregon. *****Some of the agencies include the FBI, DEA, ICE, BLM, DOJ, Oregon State Police ****** [me: just like the list of participants in Kyron's case] and multiple agencies in Jackson, Josephine, Douglas, Curry and Klamath Counties. While the task force typically provides services throughout Oregon, it has assisted in investigations in the States of Washington, California, Idaho, Montana and Texas.
The SOHTCTF performs forensic examinations on digital evidence such as computers, cellular phones, servers, removable media, digital cameras and other peripheral devices to support criminal investigations such as homicides, terrorism, child sexual exploitation, white collar crimes, and other felony crimes. In addition, the task force conducts proactive undercover Internet investigations and a large amount of public education courses. To date the task force has provided 218 hours of training to over 1800 people nationwide.
http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/sgt-josh-moulin-high-tech-crimes-task-force-attains-accreditation/
And now this lab is closed.
Do we know how it was funded?
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@MBS, Love the “English accent” reference, lol.
@Rose, No doubt the meth was why Traverso tried to steal the watermelon truck, apparently this is a known practice.
Meth valued at $1.5 million found hidden in watermelon load
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Meth-valued-at-1-5-million-found-hidden-in-3392456.php
Whoa, I thought the bios “passed with flying colors.” Didn’t we read that X1000?
cd says:
December 22, 2015 at 1:11 pm
Rose says:
December 21, 2015 at 2:29 pm
the question before why (to the gym) ie to remove a stash from premises,
or who he interfaced with, is which gym?
That and the fact that Kaine had “responses indicating deception” and was told his test was inconclusive. I would think that is a pretty huge ommission. I wonder if he ever shared that info with DY. I got the impression she was not aware of it during that interview.
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All I can say is that the last interview I saw Kaine give about Kyron in June 2015 he refers directly to TH polygraph results as an offer of her involvement, while admitting there is a SZ (someone LE does not know about)while repeating that his info about them comes from her (TH) directly, not LE. In the snippet I posted of the joint interview from July 2010 Kaine expressly omits a result and simply states the day he took his.
I think it is fair to say that within the multiple agency involvements in this case their is disagreement as to TH suspect status. That ALONE would have me requesting DOJ review.
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@erose. I’m perfectly willing to fault Jackson County employees or the Medford then police chief on the grounds the 2 Fishermen (as the Judge calls them) were a County IT employee (not a member of an LE staff, and not even apparently the County IT Dept head) and a Klamath Falls Detective working under the new Tea Party Sheriff there who had just ridden into town. Someone tasked them to Go Fish. And the judge says they knowingly & willfully violated the simplest of known County-mandated protocols. say the police chief or the mayor or a county councilman in Central Point on behalf of someone who wanted to keep his online playthings hidden imo. Idk why IT guy didn’t lose his job for fishing in LE Dept (not his Dept) computers.
pretty smart of you to find this erose.
I suppose this is why MCSO contracted IT out of state to Calif?
or was mcso worried the OR task force would find something & contradict mcso, thus
mcso wanted contractual control?
Someone who has been inconclusive re deception on poly,
has been deceptive by ommission or commission repeatedly
in public, and who has much to loose (job, finances, custody,
etc) would NEVER request an fbi/doj review, imo. Which is
exactly what has transpired.
For all we know DY was also inconclusive. Or she was untestable as she
was/is a wreck over son’s loss.
Oh I forgot one more variable wrt K shall never request review:
someone who has repeatedly, strongly, pointed his finger in a Court of law UNDER OATH at someone he knows is more likely than not innocent and the mother of his child. Why?
lucre lust & custody alone don’t explain that. He was saving his own bacon in some respect.
I am glad to see your wrapup that your opining longterm that Kaine is not culpable is merely his footing akin to Terri’s that no (public) evidence exists to the contrary, but his objective motivating factors exceed hers. Btw his opportunity does as well–did he have 3 videoed reenactments of his timeline June 4? As for Desiree’s theory, not the brightest bulb, unduly influenced by new husband, and imo projection, projection, projection of her own emotions to Kaine while married. So, I guess Kaine didn’t vent about his results like Terri did.
From your recent postings Blink in sum Jackson got a sentence 11/7/13 indicative of being an informant on those car guys Jack & Britt who were buying from China & mfg (so their arrests were inevitable).
a week after Jackson’s light sentence, the Feds arrest some folks with names on kaine’s checks.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/11/international_steroid_ring_ope.html
If he wrote checks to US mfgrs Britt or Jack, rather than say Longoria, he was likely himself a middleman or dealor on Jackson’s level, not a mere consumer.
Kaine had 1 of more of the latters’ names on checks for product so he promptly settled his divorce. Bunch kicked the custody settlement a few months down the road probably hoping the car guys’ case litigation in Fed Court might get Kaine arrested or revealed as a customer & throw his fear of that outcome into the mix. But Kantor ruled on custody and kaine’s steroid customer status was concealed by local DA. after all, it was a Federal investigation. Great argument for the DOJ review of kyron’s abduction, but Kaine is the last one to request (say never) and Desiree is feckless.
you know the 2 HCs have done great damage
to kyron by acting out Desiree’s conviction of Terri
@erose. this was the end of his lab right here imo:
” and in *****2007 was joined by personnel from the City of Medford Police Department”
Medford city (Jx Cty) interconnector with Multnomah?
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/11/international_steroid_ring_ope.html
“Accused James Longoria Jr., of Clackamas, is accused of marijuana distribution tied to Britt’s Selma property in Oregon. Edmonds said Longoria is suspected of being involved in an ongoing criminal enterprise in southern Oregon and asked that he be restricted from traveling south of Marion County while he awaits trial. The judge granted the requ”
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don’t suppose you can dish the names on the checks, Blink?
No.
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