Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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  1. T. Ruth says:

    thatkewlgirl says:
    December 28, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    Point well taken. Don’t live in that county but WTH? Where is everyone up there? Too busy keeping Portland weird? IDK.

  2. T. Ruth says:

    @erose says:
    December 28, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    Thanks, that’s the name I couldn’t recall. The only other one, though I’ve not gone through any detailed history, that moved to SI with a connection to Sheltered Nook is none other than Harmon and Pumala families. Hmmmmm?

  3. T. Ruth says:

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-78/

    Robert & J Mucken, may be nothing, but I have been trying (yes, for five years now) to figure out who a person Terri tagged in her FB photo as “uncle Bob”, could it be:

    http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp?fn=r&mn=&ln=mucken&age=&city=portland&state=OR&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=61&y=9

  4. Rose says:

    2013 article. maybe anselmo s-s was an underling of this Pocho.
    This is the kind of violent cartel boss whose death threat, if made, to S Kernin
    would have left him tramautized. Pocho was one who took sons & killedtgem, he says.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2013/06/drug_cartels_in_oregon_rise_an.html
    I was looking for enterprise rollups for cocaine marijuana etc shortly before or after
    frequent user Cogen was deposed, as well as a connection possibly to the
    S&J motors network.

  5. T. Ruth says:

    Lots of different addy’s for Mucken:

    http://radaris.com/p/Robert/Mucken/

    But what I don’t see is one for Sheltered Nook. Weird.

  6. Rose says:

    @Malty. Imo the “bosses” of the 2 official HCs are merely their Admins, who imo are disturbed, uneducated, and ill informed. Hiwever, DY’s problem is she & kelly have stated in writing (someone else link help?) they read and approve all posts on those 2 sites, they have commended the Admins for their support, and they have relied on their HC sites to repeatedly advertise & plead for their moneyraising site (tho remarkably not lately in the same manner with a direct link).

  7. erose says:

    @TRuth, Not sure if you were looking for Mucken specifically on Radaris or just wanted to find the link to Mucken on Sheltered Nook Rd. This link says he even might know KH.

    http://www.whitepages.com/name/J-R-Mucken/Portland-OR/7gbumga

  8. erose says:

    @TRuth, Maybe this is the Mucken family and the “J R” is Henry Jr. There is a Henry Mucken that owns a painting company.

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=35587228

  9. Rose says:

    You mean after 3 video’d and timed reenactments nailing Terri’s day, Underhill joined by O’Donnell on the podium makes a request essentially for everyone to focus on Terri and Terri alone that day and virtually kicks off the lublic stalking in mid August? Leading candidates for her civil suit imo.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

  10. T. Ruth says:

    Actually, erose, I was looking for a Mucken on Sauvie Island. Because of the psychic page comment that said someone had confirmed that a party on Sheltered Nook had been buying steroids from the Horman’s who had then moved to SI. I wanted to see who the Mucken’s were on SI, the only ones I found were Robert & Joanne (70′s) However, I’m now thinking it was perhaps one of the Pumalas/and or Harmons could fit the bill. If it’s even true. Rumor as far as I know. Did Harmon ever live on Sheltered nook? Not that I can see. But apparently one or more of the Pumalas lived in both places. Sheltered Nook and Houseboat on SI.

    ???

  11. Quizzical says:

    Ordinarily I am not interested in bringing the inane drivel of the HC here, but when a DY clan principle comments it seems worth bringing forward in an attempt to clarify where they stand.

    I seem to recall KDR writing something to the effect of “I don’t know what else to do for Desiree” when KDR was setting up the GoFundMe for the lawsuit. It was my opinion at the time that she, and maybe others close to DY, were not necessarily fully on board with DY’s approach but they would do what DY wanted/needed to feel supported. It seems they have either evolved to full belief in DY’s view, or have found that anything but unequivocal, public and private, voicing full support of DY’s stance is absolutely unacceptable to DY.

    Thanks Malty for bringing this to our attention.

    Malty says:
    December 25, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-290/#comment-2249652

    ————————————-

    Kyron Horman’s World Soldiers
    December 24 at 6:01pm •

    DA Rod Underhill has blocked me now for the 4th time..Why?

    (Several more comments were placed here at one time. It appears they were deleted/hidden to bring the KDR comment to the top.)

    Kelly Davidson Ramirez Because he knows he’s a jack ass!
    Like • Reply • 4 • December 24 at 7:22pm

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=923440221079233&id=161645780592018&comment_id=923464374410151&comment_tracking={%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22}

    ——————————-

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/12/multnomah_county_sheriff_dan_s_2.html

    (Insert image of MCSO Deputy Herron looking at search area maps)

    “Multnomah County sheriff’s Deputy Mark Herron, one of the search and rescue coordinators working on the Kyron Horman task force, shows the detailed grid patterns that depict exactly where law enforcement and volunteers have searched in rural northwest Multnomah County and Sauvie Island since the second-grader disappeared from Skyline School on June 4. Herron estimated they’ve completed 646 separate search assignments in the expansive fields, heavily wooded terrain and waterways around the island.”

    (Again, I think at one time several more comments were between the post and the KDR comment)

    Kelly Davidson Ramirez Those are the freaking maps I need!!!
    Like • Reply • 6 • December 29 at 3:45pm

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=926072260816029&id=161645780592018&comment_id=926164787473443&comment_tracking={%22tn%22%3A%22R8%22}

    Let me be clear (Happy Holidays Quizzie). I am familiar with the bylaws of Klasskids and they include NOT working a case without the input and assistance of LE. It is my opinion that is why their SAR resources pulled out last minute for the Sept search. (at least) So Ms. Ramirez either needs “those maps” to fulfill that requirement as she sees it- or to impeach LE. DY can pick up the phone and call Herron- OR as his SAR is a 501c3 that has been publicly funded, they can request just about anything. These people are willfully misleading contributors and interested public. There, I said it.

    B

  12. Rose says:

    Quissi, I so admire your synthesis & analysis. As I listen to our dog greet the year with incessant barking out of fireworks fear, invisible to human ears, I read and feel grateful for those here who Keep on Thinking and Sharing. And for Blink, may the new year bring only As and soccer goals.

    I think when HC Admins comment, it offers a barometer of a bio’s thinking & concerns, and when a principal comments, she engages in risky behavior where it is felt the reward for doing so exceeds the risk.

    It is beyond my grasp that a Dec 2010 press article refers to Herron SAR maps yet only 1 day ago after much fundraising and several searches it occurs to kelly those maps would have been useful and Desiree could foia and request?? What were they planning their several searches off of? This goes from bad to worse.

    I agree with you re Kelly, imo Kelly probably has way less experience of the world outside her subculture than Desiree. So, anyway, maybe Desiree is not the victim of negative advisors and a negative family/social feedback loop, but rather she sets the terms for maintaining a relationship with herself.

  13. Rose says:

    TY Malty, Quissi.
    I don’t understand Kelly’s making this comment at all.
    (“because he’s –Underhill — a jackass”)
    https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=923440221079233&id=161645780592018&comment_id=923464374410151&comment_tracking

    1) it implies Soldier’s antiUnderhill social media campaign originated with the Davidson duo, that they approve of it, and that they believe their HC soldiers should have free, unmoderated range on his FB reelection page.
    2) in what respect is he a “jackass” vis a vis the Davidsons’ goals?
    a) he took the lead in flagrantly, publically focusing on Terri as the perpetrator in Ag 2010 at O’Donnell’s side, complete with AVs.
    n) he has apparently maintained an open empaneled GJ in an effort to indict Terri.

    (I learned from today’s book J Gresham, Rogue Lawyer, one only has a certain # of days to commence a trial (to exclude reasonable doubt) acter the indictment, so clearly the problem is not lack of a body but bucketloads of reasonable doubt remain, so he can’t try a case, so he can’t indict the suslect & start the days ticking. Which makes one wonder why Shrunk/Frink/Underhill pushed sitting GJ 1 into a vote.

  14. erose says:

    Glad you said it, Blink.

  15. erose says:

    @TRuth, My understanding about Harmon/Pumala is that Steve Harmon had the houseboat on SI when he was married to Bobbie (Brian Pumala’s mother) and Brian and his sister Ann(e) lived on the boat when they were teenagers. I think way back it was assumed that BP would still have some access to or knowledge of how to gain access to that boat.

    I wanted you to see this from neighbor about Mucken and SI, though I connected him to a B&B at 26504 NW Reeder Rd, Portland Oregon 97231 Telephone 503-621-3216 awhile back. I think it was thru the phone number.

    neighbor says:

    June 27, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    WPG says:
    June 27, 2011 at 11:58 am

    3 of the moms on the list (RE, BJ, RS) are married to 3 other soccer club members The E’s may have some type of connection to Service Magic . . . read somewhere it was an “interest” listed first on their facebook? (snipped)
    _ _ _ _ _

    @WPG, parents run/are Skyline Soccer

    So much for sparsely populated Sauvie island.

    David Durham @24510 NW Sauvie Island Rd (fed fugitive)
    Volunteer Fire @18342 Northwest Sauvie Island Rd
    RMucken @18910 NW Sauvie Island Rd (linked to KH’s house)
    DKruger @17100 Northwest Sauvie Island Rd (parent, farm entertainment)
    TWilliamson @18000 NW Lucy Reeder Road (soccer dad)

    (nearby)
    SHarmon @14900 NW Mill Rd (linked to TannerP)
    Bottom’s Up Tavern @16900 NW Saint Helens Rd

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nZU3Z78jXYYJ:blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/comment-page-158/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  16. erose says:

    @TRuth, I see my last comment was not clear that Steve Harmon still owned the houseboat when Kyron went missing. I was trying to express that Brian Pumala was no longer a resident. You have to wonder how Steve Harmon the cop and BP the FB self-portrayed hoodlum coexisted on that boat.

  17. erose says:

    Quzzical and Malty, Thank you for your combined efforts to prove that Underhill and camp DY are not on good terms. I take it this means Underhill & MCSO are not in agreement on this case since DY has sang the praises of MCSO.

  18. Malty says:

    @Truth I spent the afternoon on mucken. I think they are part of a German back ground or community 72-73 years of age
    Nothing looks like a party with drugs At sheltered nock Fits them at all. They must be in real estate
    Or buying and selling real estate Or construction. Remodeling Probably just older friendst
    IMO

  19. Malty says:

    @Truth I also see where the Muckens work with Portland Audubon society. As soon as I find their names I will post a link the search lists them But I can’t see them on the volunteer or membership lists however lots seen to list as anony for some reason Bird watchers and environment care. Doesn’t seem very wild to. Me

  20. cd says:

    Rose says:
    December 30, 2015 at 10:30 pm
    @Malty. Imo the “bosses” of the 2 official HCs are merely their Admins, who imo are disturbed, uneducated, and ill informed. Hiwever, DY’s problem is she & kelly have stated in writing (someone else link help?) they read and approve all posts on those 2 sites,
    —————
    Rose I agree with you…..
    -
    note the usage of the word OUR here.

    UPDATE #113
    -snip
    “Thank you to Beth, who runs our Missing Kyron Horman Facebook page and Stacey with Kyron Horman’s World Soldiers. “
    ————

    Most of the posts on the Missing Kyron hormon page are simply copied form the World Soldiers page.

    DY’s family members post on the WS page as does DY.

    Kelley recruits searches from WS and MKF.
    Also she announces news about:

    Searches
    CDW show
    Car washes
    Kelley’s tip line
    and any other info DY and KR want to share

    example:

    UPDATE #114
    -snip
    “The time has come for us to be more aggressive so we can really narrow down our search areas, but in order for us to do that we need all the tips that got called in to the tip line. If you had any sort of tip as to Kyron or Terri’s whereabouts the week prior to June 4th, on June 4th, 2010, or suspicious behavior following Kyron’s disappearance we need to know about it. Please send an e-mail to tips4kyron @ yahoo. com “

    (The tip line was advertised with SG begging her readers to post tips to the tippling for about 2 weeks.)

    stacey ‏@pinkspiritgirl 23 Dec 2015
    You can help, just share. :)

    Missing Kyron Horman
    June 4, 2010 Portland Oregon
    Tips4kyron@yahoo.com

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=922091611214094
    ——

    Kelley is DY’s sister I find it hard to believe that DY and KR are not informed and approve of everything SG and Beth report on their pages. IMO they may not guide day to day but with something as far as the central direction and special messages are concerned SG is their tool to get the word out about any Kyron news. Because of this I find it hard to believe that DY and KR did not at least approve of the cyber stalking of Rod Underhill and I believe the idea may have originated with DY and KR.

    https://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman

  21. Malty says:

    Robert George Mucken. Does Forest landscape restoration for Audubon Portland Volunteer I think

  22. Malty says:

    @Truth

    http://www.westernrivers.org/images/news/195/Riverlands%20-%20Spring%202014.pdf

    If you get this thanks go to Bob and Joanne Mucken 4th row 4 down

  23. Malty says:

    @Truth

    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/statesmanjournal/obituary.aspx?n=rose-mucken&pid=148327852

    I think this is his mother
    Most things are written in German. If you read German there is lots s of info

  24. Rose says:

    Kelly’s comment on a WS Admin post soliciting stalking of Underhill by various forms of mail and phone calls directed at others’ comments on Underhill’s statement response and his efforts to control his own FB professional site demonstrate she closely reads both WS posts and Underhill’s site.
    —-
    Kristin needs $3000 more for spring break in Fla. kiara apparently is to reside with a 55lb + dog in his first year with a mother who thinks the dog will empower her to work. A tug of the leash with our 44 lb dog just caused spouse in our home to fall & have shoulder surgery. My reading says these dogs usually don’t prealert but are there to comfort and cetch (the adult, objects) during.

  25. Malty says:

    @CD Happy 2016
    I usually agree with all you post But I have seen Sister Kelly jump in and say some kind of mean things
    One I can remember was about Dede and food I think some of the more nasty stuff comes from her to the Soldier and back privately. In my mind seems like 2 of a kind
    Sorry

  26. Malty says:

    There is another sister who posts on her own site about her concern over DY but I don’t think she s ever posted on HC sites
    I don’t think the brother has posted
    What ever I think the ones who never post care just as much for Kyrons return

  27. Malty says:

    On the brothers site are some great pics of DY and Quinn Both have pic of Kyron
    I don’t even know Underhill but with the crime in Mult co l I doubt he is just sitting around doing nothing
    And he may or may not be as Kelly says but how does that find what happened to Kyron IMO or how Dede eats or the size of Terri’s hips None of that helps
    Find Kyron so I get discussed At it all

  28. T. Ruth says:

    Thanks Malty for your research, I saw the Mucken’s Audubon connection, as I stated, I don’t think they were the steroid buyers on Sheltered Nook, (if in fact there even were any buyers there.)

    I have no idea why they are connected to the Horman property, unless they were previous owners perhaps. House flippers sounds reasonable, lots of previous addys. It IS interesting though, that they apparently live in the area of SI that was extensively searched. Makes me wonder if, in fact they were possible witnesses to the alleged racing vehicles there on the morning of June 4, 2010. If they did know KH, or TMH prior to that day, makes me wonder if they identified the Mustang/Truck or whatever was seen racing and running off the road.

  29. T. Ruth says:

    So, DY & KR think Rod Underhill is a jackass. Hmmmm? Being as DY’s main goal has been to prosecute Terri, as opposed to finding Kyron, then my guess is that Underhill is no longer considering Terri as a suspect, and this pisses DY off. We know as fact that DY is of firm belief that TMH had Kyron removed from that school. So, if RU is looking at other possible suspects, that would make him a jackass. Good, I like donkeys anyway. HeeHaw!

  30. T. Ruth says:

    Thanks to Quiz & Malty for bringing KR’s quote to us. Jackass, definitely a horse of a different color.

  31. T. Ruth says:

    Oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! Hoping something in 2016 brings Kyron home.

  32. Malty says:

    @Truth have you looked at pics of forest restore. Really great all the weeds are cleaned out
    And dead limbs gone. Just smooth green ground the trees all trimmed Maybe he was working at Kaines
    He says he knows Kristin and Kaine I never saw he knew Terri.
    I so enjoyed the Donkey joke. I always wanted one heehaw I love the floppy ears
    And big eyes Yes this will be a good year And maybe just maybe we will find out just what really happened June 4 2010. To that little child And who all is involved.

    R Mucken maybe related to the parents of some one He is 4th generation in our country to the Mucken who founded all that research on misquitoes. Bugs in the old country. Run his name in images.

  33. Malty says:

    @Truth Erose got me into searching that Steve Harmon and the Pumala bunch I gave them a serious s search for days now that bunch could be up to some thing i never found anything but I was suspect of that Steve X cop and pilot he seemed the type. LOL

  34. Rose says:

    Soldier apparently reads here , notably quoting a recent post about the character disorders. from WS FB: “I saw a very enlightening post regarding sociopaths and how they manipulate people and it made me think of Terri and how she manipulated many very caring people over the years”
    Goes on to say lets come together and fuse. But, after all.
    there is a continuation of black and white all good – all bad
    thinking, clinically speaking, “Splitting,”

    in paraphrase:
    Terri supporters of yore who determine you erred, we welcome you into the fold.
    I feel I am wondering too often WTF is Soldier publishing in order
    to discern clues to where Desiree stands and what she will
    do to advocate for moving forward this investigation.
    Really the conclusion about Desiree and Kelly is: after 5.5 years,
    nothing productive. so I am moving on from Soldier’s site.

  35. cd says:

    T. Ruth says:
    January 1, 2016 at 1:41 pm
    So, DY & KR think Rod Underhill is a jackass. Hmmmm? Being as DY’s main goal has been to prosecute Terri, as opposed to finding Kyron, then my guess is that Underhill is no longer considering Terri as a suspect, and this pisses DY off.
    ———
    IMO

    So is Underhill giving Kyrons mom and aunt the cold shoulder as to any case information or has he given them information that they did not want to hear.

    I can’t believe that LE could withhold all case information from her if DY requested it. So did he finally tell DY/KR the status of Kyron’s case without all of BS about new leads. I noticed that DY is not writing any Facebook messages to the DA.

    Would DY even tell SG if she was informed by LE that DDS was cleared, Kaines place was searched (with cadaver dogs), the MFH is bogus, and that they do not enough evidence to arrest Terri for anything and there is a high probability they never will.

    It is my understanding Rees is tasked with Kyrons case and because of DYs very public mistatements of information given to her he will only respond to inquiry from her or KH through MCSO detective (s). No, I don’t believe DY would ever tell the chief gravy train and hate extractor she was told DDS was eliminated of any knowledge or involvement by multiple (direct) sources but as I have stated before publicly I have seen clear and unambiguous confirmation she was informed of that both way back (it is the reason she dropped her suit) and reminded of same following her defamatory allegations against DDS. When I say reminded I mean in no uncertain terms it was made clear to her DDS may seek remedy/relief for the allegations made by DY up to and including June 2015 and definitely would be if they did not cease immediately-(to include her orchestrating same by any third parties). In re-reviewing this material, I can state as a certainty that DY was told directly by LE (in addition to being told same by her counsel) that MCSO and the DA cleared DDS of any knowledge or involvement in Kyron’s case.

    If I was seeking to “demonstrate” for an update or escalation of Kyron’s case through a 3rd party I would certainly make sure they had that knowledge to divest myself of any liability AND because – how seriously would I expect them to be taken with bad info?
    B

  36. Malty says:

    @Rose I just read that garbage you are talking about so we are all good people who have been twisted by a sociolpath or some other disorder Now The Soldier wants us to come back to the fold and join her sick
    Truly twisted site
    Ok got her invite and wonderful offer
    First I never was in the fold I do not believe in putting hate for Terri and Dede. Above searching for Kyron
    (Did you read that Soldier) there is an unknown man on the loose who should be found before he takes. Another child. What has your site done to help find this dangerous man The fold is among people who look at all possible suspects. Who have no hidden jealousy and hate to push on others
    Thanks but no thanks for the invite to your hate filled site WWS

  37. Rose says:

    not much of a gravy train now, when a new “letter” coupled with links for $ pushed by the Admin on Missing Kyron churn out only $50.

    For reasons you can guess, not discussing the employment issue.
    B

  38. Rose says:

    all these letters and faux searches do is put all eyes on Desiree, not Kyron.

  39. Malty says:

    @Truth

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html

    I know you read back so will send this
    So who was this Jim Kelly Did you ever check him out

  40. Rose says:

    OT Underhill should get out in front and manage his Facebook reelection page himself with one entry everyday during his term in office by posting a pic and summary (from Press) of a recent conviction which protects locals, especially Union members, like prosecuting an inmate who assaulted a Corrections Officer.
    example of an effective use of FB by a DA who does that:
    https://m.facebook.com/stacyparksmiller/
    She also has a pic every few days of a consistent photogenic public cause (animal welfare). Not a sports team. He could chose and picture a photogenic personal interest like the safety of Portland trials and parks (iirc he’s a runner) with photos. Then he’d have a FB trackrecord of personal friendliness and professional achievement come election time. If he’s got a HC saying here’s what you don’t do, he needs to market what he does.

  41. thatkewlgirl says:

    @ Rose says:
    January 1, 2016 at 10:31 pm
    ———–

    It’s a darned shame that HC is so hyperfocused on only one person inre to sociopaths, that they fail to look in the mirror, or at the rest of the folks I cited to consider in the exercise quote I included (which is EXACTLY what that quote was talking about)… “Sociopaths rarely vary this tried-and-tested formula because it virtually guarantees them success.”

    Think about it… Bios feed misinformation to HC via private messages and media hype cameos. HC spins lies and stalks anyone not agreeing with their game to blame stepmom, LE looks for non-existent evidence while wearing blinders on the school culpability, Judges forget about the law, DAs stand on court steps with bogus civil lawsuit filings while reiterating garbage about ‘ongoing investigation’ without publicly clearing those they KNOW are innocent, a little girls has her mother ripped from her unconstitutionally, innocent families are hurt by the actions of the primaries and their extensions, and nobody has bothered to Find Kyron First.

    I am at the point where sometimes I hope Kyron is NEVER FOUND! Wherever he may be, (hopefully with some blue haired lady eating chicken nuggets from a tv dinner tray while watching a black and white tv in a basement – pfigment’s theory), has to be better than coming home to this mess that’s been created ‘on his behalf’. God help the next child that is snatched without a trace…

    I know this is “rant speak” and its ok. I don’t think for Kyrons sake anyone believes he is better off where he is if he is alive. It is my personal opinion that since very shortly after Kyron was abducted he has been a child in Gods kingdom and all of this is very much behind his soul. What is not, I believe, is the fact that there is a child predator out there, and I very much want Kyron to be laid to rest of this earth, properly.
    B

  42. RedRose says:

    Is David Durham STILL a federal fugitive? They caught the child killer Longo in a much shorter period of time. Doesn’t LE think that if DAD was still alive, he would have some contact with family (or dog) and that they would be able to track him that way? Or is he just more of a dipstick and not a true priority (helpful in finding more about Kyron)? Or is he just an unfortunate side note in this entire sad story.

    Happy New Year, hope the new year brings peace to Kyron’s family (and his step mom who I know loved him a lot).

  43. Rose says:

    mcso july 2015 org chart
    http://www.mcso.us/profiles/pdf/org_chart.pdf
    Staton-Moore-Gates-Walls-”the detective”
    I wonder who Desiree interfaces with?
    I would address Staton only who should be supervising downward and
    receiving information upward.
    imo if the attack is on Underhill, & Rees directs DY to mcso for updates, then the person she interfaces with at mcso is telling her, and has for some time, we’ve made the case, but the DA won’t file charges. That’s an internal LE problem.

    Missing the Fall 2015 Green Hornet.
    Should’ve been out by end November.
    Like to see who’s gotten awards lately

  44. Rose says:

    on the other hand, what is the almost fulltime on Kyron detective doing during his workweek if he’s convinced mcso & Desiree that the DA is in the wrong and Terri is currently prosecutable but for his intransigence? either a lot of coffee reaks, using up his former overtime with leave, OR doing “makework” like reinterviewing everyone in all those binders, probably suggestively (wrt Terri’s role), which is exactly the task Desiree was told he was doing at least 6 mos ago.

  45. Rose says:

    gotta hand it to you Blink.
    You have Sources in Spades imo
    on this case in specific.

    Thank you. I consider that a compliment to those that have entrusted me and the readers and posters here. I was in a meeting 2 weeks ago discussing some of the contributing sources in past case work that I cannot publish for a variety of reasons, but the least of which is it would interfere with current adjudications- I am ruminating for the future on how best to showcase those efforts to prompt public participation in cold cases by law enforcement or investigators to use public interest and advocacy.

    B

  46. Rose says:

    Do you think, Blink, the child predator is a Lone Wolf driven by gratification needs & acting boldly with
    confidence in his planning/execution powers, or a part of a criminal conspiracy related to any adults in
    K’s life?

    Because I cannot rule out either, in my view they are both possible.

    If you are asking me what I think absent those verifications or exclusions- you already know, unfortunately.
    B

  47. Rose says:

    My guess is you come down mostly on Door 1, but Kaine’s behavior in all its facets — from his divorce/custody approach, to his symbiotic relationship with Mickelson and her progeny, to his conduct of the aeak and at times exploitive manifestations of BKH Fdtn, and so on, Subsequent to the abduction–not the steroids before–argues to me that Door 2 has its points.

  48. Rose says:

    I kinda like the rant paragraph 2.
    Paragraph 3, Kyron, I suggest should be left out of it.
    With respect for his suffering, short life & demise.
    After all, none of this post-abduction acting-out is about that.

    kewl, respectfully, imo there’s no sociopath in this case except the abductor.
    I see Borderline features behaviorally in multiple actors. Not narcissists.
    They all think they’re putting Kyron first.

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